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bmwpower
10-14-2007, 11:20 PM
For torquing stuff that is impossible to get the torque wrench in position. For example, torquing driveshaft nuts that are too close to the trans to get a torque wrench in there and inset enough on the driveshaft that a normal crowsfoot might not reach it.

Besides the normal crowsfoot wrenches, do they make an extended version for even greater reach?

IDASHO
10-15-2007, 12:19 AM
Are you sure you are needing a crows-foot wrench?

Because extending one is done simply by using an extension :headscrat Unless actually need more of an OFFSET in the crows foot??

BTW, just in case there is some sort of breakdown in communication, this is a crows foot wrench :)

http://www.specialized.net/ecommerce/shop/images/267X932_PMI.JPG

Charles (in GA)
10-15-2007, 04:31 AM
I think Snap-on and Mac both have what you are looking for, open end and box end.

Charles

bmwpower
10-15-2007, 05:00 AM
Yea, I need more offset. Not much, but more than the typical pieces I've seen. I will check out the truck brands and see what I find. Thanks.

malibu101
10-15-2007, 06:15 AM
I think they're caled tourqe extenders.
EDIT- Something like this??
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=hand&item_ID=2219&group_ID=268&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog

bmwpower
10-15-2007, 07:35 AM
I think they're caled tourqe extenders.
EDIT- Something like this??
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=hand&item_ID=2219&group_ID=268&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog

Yes!!!

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/objects_lg/48900/48843.JPG

...wait....

Only four metric sizes?!? What are they thinking? Crap, I think I need 16mm.

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=2221&group_ID=269&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog

For some reason the metric ones look different....

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/objects_lg/48900/48844.JPG

bmwpower
10-15-2007, 07:47 AM
Mac doesn't even make metric ones for some reason.

I should be able to use an 3/8" extension on the normal crowsfoot wrench, right? For example, crowsfoot + 3/8" extension + torque wrench.

...


Matco makes a set of 4...no 16mm. SBTA4MR

http://www.matcotools.com/ProductImages/sbta4mr.jpg


This is also a possibility. Does anyone know if you can enter the 3/8" hole from either side?

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/objects_lg/49500/49408.JPG

MAD
10-15-2007, 08:52 AM
If you really need one and can't find the right size, you may be able to switch the fasteners to some with the same threads but with a hex size that fits the wrench.

malibu101
10-15-2007, 09:23 AM
I should be able to use an 3/8" extension on the normal crowsfoot wrench, right? For example, crowsfoot + 3/8" extension + torque wrench
Yes of course BUT the leverage that that the crowsfoot gives will change the tourqe reading.
EDIT- Here's easy help on that
http://www.toolcrib.ca/download/torque_adapter_calculation.pdf

bmwpower
10-15-2007, 09:42 AM
Yes of course BUT the leverage that that the crowsfoot gives will change the tourqe reading.
EDIT- Here's easy help on that
http://www.toolcrib.ca/download/torque_adapter_calculation.pdf

Yep, gotcha. I knew I had to modify the setting. That calculator will come i handy.

Charles (in GA)
10-15-2007, 09:44 PM
Of course if the tool is placed on the torque wrench so that it extends to either side, exactly 90 degrees to the torque wrench, then the offset has no effect on the torque, if it extends either away from or toward the torque wrench any at all from the 90 degree point then you have to do the calculations.

Here is the illustration I have posted before, from an aircraft mechanics handbook.

Charles

bmwpower
08-11-2009, 06:06 PM
Bumping a really old thread cause I still need these. I need the torque extender type. Crowsfeet just ain't cutting it.
In particular, 17mm and 10mm.

stock z/28
08-12-2009, 07:07 AM
If you still cant find one, I would simpy make one.

An old wrench and an old socket (for the drive end).

Cut the wrench and sock to size, and weld.


I have made severa of these over years.


I would be kinda lost with out a mill-lathe-tig welder:)


Jeff

bmwpower
08-12-2009, 08:59 AM
If you still cant find one, I would simpy make one.

An old wrench and an old socket (for the drive end).

Cut the wrench and sock to size, and weld.


I have made severa of these over years.


I would be kinda lost with out a mill-lathe-tig welder:)


Jeff

Not sure I would have any candidates that are 0 offset.
And I have no mill-lathe-tig welder.

stock z/28
08-12-2009, 10:33 AM
Not having a "0" offset is no big deal. Just cut that end as well, and weld it.


If you dont have the capability, possibly some one close?


If you run out of options, let me know and I coud do it for you.


I build "odd" stuff like this for people all the time.


Jeff

Moose-LandTran
08-12-2009, 10:43 AM
Here you go:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Engine-Motor-Mount-Wrench-Tool-16mm-and-17mm_W0QQitemZ370238529319QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotor s_Automotive_Tools?hash=item5633ef9f27&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14

bmwpower
08-12-2009, 10:48 AM
Here you go:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Engine-Motor-Mount-Wrench-Tool-16mm-and-17mm_W0QQitemZ370238529319QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotor s_Automotive_Tools?hash=item5633ef9f27&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14

Wow, Moose coming thru with the win.
Now find me a 10mm. :)

PrimeTools
08-12-2009, 11:58 AM
Stahlwille offer a 3/8" drive 10mm (Code 447.10 / 02181010) 50.8mm long (centre to centre). They dont make a 16mm - only a 5/8" (15.875mm). AF (Maybe worth double checking, if your not sure of size). Also available in Spline.

DynoDale
08-12-2009, 12:12 PM
How about holding your own wrench:
http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0380/

BB26
08-12-2009, 12:25 PM
It appears that you need metric sizes, but this Proto set would be a good option for those that need SAE. This is a high quality complete set for a lot less than you would pay for truck brand adapters. MSC regularly has 25-35% off promos, so you could probably get this set for under $100.

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMPXNO=7215926&PMT4NO=68688076

BB26
08-12-2009, 12:27 PM
How about holding your own wrench:
http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0380/

Very nice; good find. Have you used this?

bmwpower
08-12-2009, 12:45 PM
How about holding your own wrench:
http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0380/

Hows it work? You put your wrench head in the slot?

Moose-LandTran
08-12-2009, 01:42 PM
The Moose Solution:

10mm fasteners don't require that much torque, since they're small. So here's the solution to your problem finding a long enough torque adapter:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/chrismca/DSC00427-650.jpg

I've just clamped this 10mm bolt in my vice for example's sake. You're going to need a 10mm wrench too. And a step-down if you don't have a 3/8" torque wrench.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/chrismca/DSC00428-650.jpg

Put wrench on nut/bolt. Using a piece of blue shop tissue paper or something could help hold it in place.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/chrismca/DSC00429-650.jpg

Put 3/8" drive on torque wrench or step-down in the open end of the wrench. This works because 3/8" is ~10mm, works fine, works great in a bind. Don't worry about it slipping; it shouldn't, and you're not going to be putting much torque down anyway.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/chrismca/DSC00430-650.jpg

Torque away! Having the wrench at 90 degrees to the torque wrench should eliminate the need to recalculate torque.

SORTED.

bmwpower
08-12-2009, 02:56 PM
haha...great! That should work.

DynoDale
08-12-2009, 03:10 PM
Hows it work? You put your wrench head in the slot?

You clamp the beam of the wrench in the slot.

Moose-LandTran
08-12-2009, 03:47 PM
You could just do like everyone else, and tighten them without a torque wrench.

Avgas
08-28-2009, 09:43 AM
Does anyone know where I can find one of those extensions that has a 3/8 square drive hole on both sides??