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kartracer55
09-19-2005, 08:08 PM
Ok, so I was wondering if this could be done. Currently, my garage floor has some HUGE cracks in it, and it has kinda seperated into tectonic plates if ya know what I mean, and they are uneven and slanted, so its safe to say my garage floor (80 something years old) is pretty Fawked. The edges where the garage meets the floor however are perfectly fine. SO my question is, Would it be possible to break up the floor insidemy garage, and pour new concrete, and justbring it right to the edge of my garage, as opposed to tearing down the garage? THe cracks now mean I cant use a creeper, and make it a PITA to move the jack, engine stand and engine hoist around, and the later two arnt exactly easy to manuever.

Thanks

Jim

Kevin54
09-19-2005, 08:14 PM
If it is like a new garage it is a floating floor anyhow. By that I mean the floor was the last thing poured after the foundation was up. The only difference between then and now is that you have a roof over your head. Most new garages pour the floors before the walls go up. The reason for that is so they have a place to build the walls and stand them up. You should be able to bust up the old floor with a jackhammer, Bobcat it out, level the gravel, and pour a new floor with no problem.

Kevin

dink
09-19-2005, 08:25 PM
I think you ought to dig it up and use stone it will look great

kartracer55
09-19-2005, 09:34 PM
Any thoughts on price?

thanks

Jim

dink
09-19-2005, 09:38 PM
Your probably looking at around $2,000 to $5.000 for stone

kartracer55
09-19-2005, 10:13 PM
No i mean for concrete to be poured... I need a surface that I can wheel an engine lift around on or usea creeper on.

I think I would also break up the concrete myself.

Jim

Satatic
09-19-2005, 11:03 PM
80 year old concrete would be hell. You need more then a jack hammer, maybe one of those jack hammers that attach to teh front of a skid steer.

Satatic
09-19-2005, 11:04 PM
I think you ought to dig it up and use stone it will look great
A stone floor in a garage? You mean like gravel?

Satatic
09-19-2005, 11:07 PM
Ohh btw I use bondo to fix garage floor cracks. Make bondo ramps and stuff, haha.

dink
09-19-2005, 11:14 PM
No I mean like large flat stones....or slate

bmwpower
09-20-2005, 12:09 AM
Stone will never be as flat as a new concrete floor.

I also say break it up and repour.

If the floor is really cracked right now, chances are there is no crushed stone base or the ground has sunk under in certain areas. There's no way to fix this but to break up the old stuff, restone, compact and repour.

I had my floor done for around $3400 (just the concrete pour.... no prep, no stone). Probably came out close to $5000 when done since I bought the stone, etc. and did all the prep work.

Jay H 237
09-20-2005, 04:37 AM
Breaking up and removing the old floor is the way to go especially given the state that your old floor is in. For the old floor to be cracked bad and misaligned between sections means there is, or has been, movement in the material below the floor. If you pour a new floor over the old one there's a good chance the cracks will be transferred through sometime in the future and ruin the new floor.

By removing the floor you can see what the base material looks like, they might not have used any gravel, or heck there might even be buried debris under there that has decomposed. I've heard of people finding building debris or even tree stumps under old floors where the builder used them to backfill instead of bringing in more dirt, sand, or gravel.
You might even find Jimmy Hoffa! :lol_hitti

kartracer55
09-20-2005, 07:00 AM
Well I could do the fake stone... you know, the pattern stuff they use around pools? But IDK, id imagine stone and stone look alike stuff will get kinda $$$

Jim

bmwpower
09-20-2005, 07:26 AM
Well I could do the fake stone... you know, the pattern stuff they use around pools? But IDK, id imagine stone and stone look alike stuff will get kinda $$$

Jim

Last I heard in my area, they're charging $9/sq. ft. for the stamped concrete. 1000 sq. ft. area = $9000 :eyecrazy:

kartracer55
09-20-2005, 03:01 PM
Holy crap lol 9k??

Hmm, Id imagine I will need to pour some sort of base layer down beclow the concrete, i mean who knows whats happened in close to 90 years. But would there be a problem if the concrete was removed up to the sides of the garage, and then leveled out as opposed to "lifting" the garage or something like that? I would like to know if this is feasible, or i would be better off building a new garage.

Jim

dink
09-20-2005, 05:23 PM
Holy crap lol 9k??

Hmm, Id imagine I will need to pour some sort of base layer down beclow the concrete, i mean who knows whats happened in close to 90 years. But would there be a problem if the concrete was removed up to the sides of the garage, and then leveled out as opposed to "lifting" the garage or something like that? I would like to know if this is feasible, or i would be better off building a new garage.

Jim


At that age of the house...I would probably lift it up some....you never know

kartracer55
09-20-2005, 05:50 PM
Id have to talk to an engineer or somebody liek that. THe problem with rebuilding the garage is that if we were to rebuild it, it wouldhave to be moved over because right now it is only like 2 feet from the fence, code in town says you need like 3 or osme BS.

Jim

Wile1Coyote
09-21-2005, 12:28 PM
Might be worth talking to a concrete leveling company to see what they can do. I have seent ehm take some slabs that had like a 20-30% pitch and bring em all equally flat.

Can't hurt to check Oh and it is significantly cheaper than pouring new like 10% of new!

scheu
09-21-2005, 02:49 PM
Co-worker had the same problem. Garage/house built in the 30's-40's. They went in with a bobcat w/ jack hammer attachment on it to break it up. After the old floor was out he had about 1-1.5 feet of empty SPACE under it in some places. Not sure if they figured out the hows/whys but it took a full truck load of sand to fill it back in. Compacted of course.

kartracer55
09-21-2005, 08:03 PM
Yeah, you gotta wonder what people are thinking....

Jim

Bull
09-06-2009, 09:37 PM
Let's bring this back from the dead. I'm searching Google, trying to get ideas about garage floor options, and your thread popped up.

What did you end up doing, all those years ago?

numbah9
01-05-2010, 10:04 AM
I'd like to know, too...