View Full Version : Who wants to put their metric taps to good use?
bmwpower
01-18-2008, 04:41 PM
I need a metric thread (M10x1 or M10x1.5..haven't decided..see here (http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14522)) tapped into a M20x1.5 plug (#13 in pict)
Enough meat on there to do it?
I'll send you the plug and compensation in return for the work.
Sound good?
krusty the clown
01-18-2008, 05:35 PM
why not a pipe plug?
Elroy
01-18-2008, 07:55 PM
Ya. Metric no less with British Standard Thread.
Freejack
01-18-2008, 08:08 PM
Are you trying to put a secondary plug into a larger plug?
If so, referencing the prior thread about which would be better thread for pressure. You might actually be better going to a NPT fitting. Any other type of fitting will require a sealing surface on both the head of the larger plug and the underside of whatever fastner you use, plus some sort of maulable washer between them (copper, nylon, etc)
I guess I don't completely understand what you are doing.
Jake
bmwpower
01-18-2008, 08:48 PM
I want to connect an auto trans oil temp sender to my tranny (for a gauge), but the available pipe plugs are M20's, so I was thinking I'd just drill out the center of the M20 pipe plug and thread it for the appropriate sender. In this case, an M10 sender. The M20 pipe plug I think is made out of aluminum, but I'm not positive (haven't looked under the car yet). I guess I could look for a bushing that went from M10 to M20, but I didn't think they existed.
Here is the M10x1.5 sender. The pipe plug and the sender would be sealed with a crush washer:
http://egauges.com/images/vdo/323-091.jpg
rsanter
01-18-2008, 08:51 PM
I think for what you are trying to do you will want to use the coarser 1.5 threat, espically if you are going to use brass or aluminum for the adapter plug.
if you have the taps and a drillpress I can tell you how bwst to do it, or I could do it on my lathe.
bob
swgray
01-18-2008, 09:33 PM
Does it really have to go into a pressure port? Can't it be located in the pan instead? Adding a bung with the proper threads to the pan seems like an easier undertaking and less prone to forceful leaks.
bmwpower
01-18-2008, 09:39 PM
Does it really have to go into a pressure port? Can't it be located in the pan instead? Adding a bung with the proper threads to the pan seems like an easier undertaking and less prone to forceful leaks.
Yea, it could be located there. There should be enough room for the sender, but I'd have to check.
The problem would be getting a bung into the pan (no welder for me)...and dropping the pan and replacing the fluid, but it could be done obviously.
russlaferrera
01-18-2008, 10:08 PM
Yea, it could be located there. There should be enough room for the sender, but I'd have to check.
The problem would be getting a bung into the pan (no welder for me)...and dropping the pan and replacing the fluid, but it could be done obviously.
You could drill a hole in the pan and install the temp unit with a nut on the inside.. You could solder it (with a propane or Mapp torch)or use Silvabraze , so it will not leak. Or you can PM me and send me the part and I will thread it for you. Russ
W-Cummins
01-18-2008, 11:16 PM
A 10mm X1.5 pitch tap from snap-on is under $10 why don't you just buy one? Shipping the part back and forth would eat more $$ than that.
I have one but I don't understand why you would want to ship the part at the cost of the tap....
William...
RAYJAY
01-18-2008, 11:46 PM
Go to autometer site http://www.autometer.com/cat_accessorieslist.aspx?pid=11
they have metric adapters just cut your rubber lines add a tee and the adapter
bmwpower
01-19-2008, 12:07 AM
A 10mm X1.5 pitch tap from snap-on is under $10 why don't you just buy one? Shipping the part back and forth would eat more $$ than that.
I have one but I don't understand why you would want to ship the part at the cost of the tap....
William...
I have a tap, but I don't have a drill press. I supposed I could put the part in the vise and drill it, but that may prove to be futile.
You might try calling Rogue Engineering. I Believe they may sell transmission plugs tapped for senders. I did not see them listed online though.
http://www.rogueengineering.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=BMW
When installing these senders on the oil sump plate in an Air cooled VW , I believe the instructions say to install them with a nut on the back as russlaferrera suggested rather than tapping threads. I don't know that I would want to do that with an expensive pan though. The sump plate on an air cooled VW is cheap and fast to change out if you mess it up or you decide you don't want the sender anymore.
swgray
01-19-2008, 01:02 PM
If you could get a 1/8-27 NPT sending unit from VDO that would be the correct temp. range you just drill a 1/2" hole in the pan and install this or most other manufacturers drain plug kit.
http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/norm/sum-g1380_w_m.jpghttp://www.jegs.com/images/photos/55560175.gif
russlaferrera
01-20-2008, 07:14 AM
I have a tap, but I don't have a drill press. I supposed I could put the part in the vise and drill it, but that may prove to be futile.
Eric, don't be a wuss!! You can do it. Start with 1/2 size of the tap drill, for a pilot hole then finish with the tap drill. The hole will be straighter that way.
Whats the worst than can happen? It's a plug.
brianpgriset
01-20-2008, 10:02 AM
I agree with the above. I use hand drill for holes I tap all the time. You don't NEED a drill press but it is alot easier. Give it a shot, its only a plug.
On the other hand, I do see this as being a critical application (is it really at 300psi?:shocking:), so I understand your concern. I'd be glad to tap that M20 plug if you would like. Let me know. I only have an M10x1.5 tap though, no 1.0.
Lastly, why are you all giving bmwpower such a hard time? He didn't ask for other ways to get a temp sender in, he asked for help tapping a hole.
OldCarGuy
01-20-2008, 10:42 PM
Bmwpower,, send the plug and sender unit to my place. I’ll chuck the plug in my lathe, then drill and tap it. Making the thread true and centered to the body.
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