View Full Version : before you blame HF!
PoorOwner
04-03-2008, 09:29 PM
before you blame HF tools not working worth a damn,
are you sure it's not operator error!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXa9oa50b-U
Lyaec350
04-03-2008, 09:36 PM
I think the first hint should have been the fact that he has his car supported only by the jack...
oxycodone
04-03-2008, 09:44 PM
Wow. Somebody go weld that guy's toolbox shut.
Deafautotech
04-03-2008, 09:46 PM
Wow. Somebody go weld that guy's toolbox shut.
Damn! that reason why the safety are always Number 1!!!
kartracer55
04-03-2008, 10:10 PM
Commented =]
Jiffycake
04-03-2008, 10:21 PM
You put your car on stands when you change a wheel or tire? Its not like he is under the vehicle..
Chris Adams
04-03-2008, 10:23 PM
You put your car on stands when you change a wheel or tire? Its not like he is under the vehicle..
Only if the car is worth keeping, or if I'm actually going to touch the car, say, to put a wheel on it. That's when your shoulders/knees/arms are under the body, and when it falls.
nissan_crawler
04-03-2008, 10:30 PM
I'm missing the benefit of that changer. I can do the same thing in the same time with a receiver hitch, hi-lift jack, 5 gallon pail, and two spoons.:headscrat
Oh, and I use a bubble balancer.:fawk:
I have had tires balanced by several shops, and after 2-3 balancings, I do it with the old bubble balancer. Guess what? The shimmy goes away every time. Don't knock the old school technology, somebody with a brain and a bubble balancer can do a better job than your average tire reject with a $5,000 balancer. I can do a set of 4 (dismount/mount/balance) in 2 hours with no problem, all by hand. When I worked at a tire shop, it was about 40 minutes from car going in to car going out.
I recently mounted some 10 ply tires on 12" rims...no tire shop would do it, they all refused. It took me a while, but I got them on by hand.
nissan_crawler
04-03-2008, 10:34 PM
You put your car on stands when you change a wheel or tire? Its not like he is under the vehicle..
I knew somebody that thought like that, then changed his mind after the car got a bump, the jack slipped, and was sitting where the passenger's feet normally are. :spit: I offered to get him a stand about 5 minutes before that. :lol_hitti
Seriously, how long does it take to throw a jack stand under it, a minute? What if you drop a lugnut and reach under the car right whent he jack decides to blow a seal? This one of 1,335,675,123,254, "what ifs" that can ALL be prevented by a $20 jack stand. Ever see a smooshed human body? I have, it's not all that pleasant.
Jiffycake
04-03-2008, 10:41 PM
why wouldn't a jackstand be OEM then.
nissan_crawler
04-03-2008, 10:53 PM
why wouldn't a jackstand be OEM then.
same reason an air compressor and impact aren't.
Lyaec350
04-03-2008, 11:08 PM
why wouldn't a jackstand be OEM then.
Most OEM tire changing jacks are screwjacks (don't have the hydraulic seal to fail) and don't have wheels (wont spontaneously roll out should you bump the car) and they STILL have all kinds of warning stickers telling you not to get anywhere under the car... Rolling floor jacks that have both these weaknesses should never be relied on to hold a vehicle up, they are ONLY for lifting. Throw a stand under and call it a day, its worth the 30 seconds.
strizzy
04-03-2008, 11:54 PM
haha watching that video did the 'YouTube thing' and led me to this beauty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41WyVpzeN2k
cambell
04-04-2008, 12:09 AM
Um, I'm just a numbskull, but always use a jack stand or something just incase the car falls. Once I was driving home from work in the rain and I got a flat tire. I grabbed my spare and the jack that came with the car and started to change the tire on the side of the road. Little did I know the jackass that did my last oil change bent the rail on the car that the jack slips around. Well a car went wizzing by me and the car fell off the jack after I removed the tire, luckily I was smart enough to put the spare underneath the a arm before I started and that saved me from crushing my foot. From that day foward I will not touch a car without two forms of support under it. Jackstands are a must, if its on the side of the road, make do with what ever you have.
nissan_crawler
04-04-2008, 12:25 AM
haha watching that video did the 'YouTube thing' and led me to this beauty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41WyVpzeN2k
Moron is using 8 points on regular bolts and complaining about stripping them out.:spit: Oh well, judging by that video, he'll probably find a good husband that knows how to use his tools. :wtf:
nissan_crawler
04-04-2008, 12:30 AM
Throw a stand under and call it a day, its worth the 30 seconds.
A guy back home was trapped with a car on top of him for over 9 hours (by phone calls left on another phone or answering machine) before he died of internal hemorrhaging. I bet he wished he spent a minute grabbing a stand. He was just doing something "quick" and "wasn't going to get under the car" too. Instead, he got 6' under.
bchee
04-04-2008, 12:31 AM
haha watching that video did the 'YouTube thing' and led me to this beauty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41WyVpzeN2k
I have to admit I felt bad for the kid. His youtube profile says he's home schooled.
Stuey
04-04-2008, 08:03 AM
haha watching that video did the 'YouTube thing' and led me to this beauty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41WyVpzeN2k
He likes tools more than girls and anything. :headscrat:headscrat
"Adding comments has been disabled for this video." :lol_hitti:lol_hitti
strizzy
04-04-2008, 08:13 AM
He likes tools more than girls and anything. :headscrat:headscrat
I was almost going to compare him to someone...
Zeroek
04-04-2008, 08:31 AM
8 point?? lmao he dumped over his toolbox.
milkovich
04-04-2008, 08:36 AM
I was almost going to compare him to someone...
:lol_hitti That shoe fits more than one around here though so tread carefully!
I'll be darned if the only thing between me and a slow death under 4000 lbs of metal is the hydraulic cylinder some communist slapped together at gunpoint.
The flip side is, yeah, if it's a pit stop and you're using a $500 brunnhoelzl and no one's under the car, different story. Otherwise, you're a knucklehead.
martell06
04-04-2008, 01:47 PM
haha watching that video did the 'YouTube thing' and led me to this beauty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41WyVpzeN2k
he's got some top notch vids. just reading the titles was enough for me.
TxDoc
04-04-2008, 02:54 PM
haha watching that video did the 'YouTube thing' and led me to this beauty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41WyVpzeN2k
1-I did like the hardest trying tire mount guy! I don't know if I could get one on with a coach helping.
2-I guess the kid is outside in his dad's garage and not doing any homework or studying cause he already knows everything about school, too. They better get him a stainless steel fry basket ready.
old salvage
04-04-2008, 03:06 PM
haha watching that video did the 'YouTube thing' and led me to this beauty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41WyVpzeN2k
:spit: Awww geee.
Hopefully someone will steer him straight and put all his enthusiasm to good use.
Stuey
04-04-2008, 03:27 PM
I'll be darned if the only thing between me and a slow death under 4000 lbs of metal is the hydraulic cylinder some communist slapped together at gunpoint.
:spit: Would be funnier if it wasn't so true.
Danglerb
04-04-2008, 07:31 PM
None of the mechanics I know use anything but a floor jack to change a tire. They use a "real" commercial quality floor jack, and most of the younger guys put the tire on with their legs under the car so they can raise the wheel up with their knees. Nobody really goes under a car without a jack stand, but I've never seen any of them bother just to change a tire.
Chris Adams
04-04-2008, 07:53 PM
None of the mechanics I know use anything but a floor jack to change a tire. They use a "real" commercial quality floor jack, and most of the younger guys put the tire on with their legs under the car so they can raise the wheel up with their knees. Nobody really goes under a car without a jack stand, but I've never seen any of them bother just to change a tire.
Dunno, We got fired if we did that. Of course, real mechanics don't use floor jacks. They use air/hydraulic jacks that have a lock. You gun it up, and then set the lock. Safe even in an earthquake, unless you are at the epicenter...
Guys raising one wheel are not mechanics anyway. They are tire guys or helpers.
The illegals that work the cheap tire shops in my town take serious chances every time. They raise the car with a cheap jack, don't bother with stands, shake the cars, climb under them, etc.
However...
Most of them have a goal of being injured on the job.
The way workman's comp is structured here in the Golden State, it's an Illegals way of getting free training, lots of cash and legal status. Go to the workman’s comp retraining centers in your town. Play a game. Try to find the Anglo. Lots of luck.
I don't put anything under a car not on jack stands because when I was 20 I yanked a falling car off a buddy. Saved his butt, but to this day I get twinges in my back.
How much is 1 minute worth to you?
MarkH
04-05-2008, 10:47 AM
Many of the guys you ask, why did they not use a jack stand, about. The reason I have found from the medical part of my career is. DUH, they do not own one, do not see the reason for one, and it is wasted money. The other way they feel to waste money is to buy a good jack.
This is even as you are explaining to them, you are going to take them to surgery and remove part of their body. They are telling me, hope someone has my jack so I can get it fixed, they do not want to buy a new one.
Even for the safe crew who does not have locking jacks for that period of time you slide a stand under or are on the road and do not have one. Look at your jacks carefully, it is not the place to save money. A friend who had a hidden flaw break a stand, has great stands, he has HF wrenches though. A reverse of before the accident.
chad s
04-05-2008, 12:18 PM
haha watching that video did the 'YouTube thing' and led me to this beauty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41WyVpzeN2k
Thats too much!
krusty the clown
04-05-2008, 12:28 PM
doesn't that kid post here? :lol_hitti
jay50
04-05-2008, 12:33 PM
doesn't that kid post here? :lol_hitti
Wish he did; he could teach us a thing or two about tools....and fools....:lol_hitti
chad s
04-05-2008, 01:05 PM
doesn't that kid post here? :lol_hitti
Perhaps someone should invite him, if he isn't here already!
Stuey
04-05-2008, 01:35 PM
Perhaps someone should invite him, if he isn't here already!
And say what?
"Hey, kid, we're ridiculing you b/c of that silly video you posted. If you love tools as much as you say you do, come to GarageJournal so we can school your ass."
chad s
04-05-2008, 01:42 PM
And say what?
"Hey, kid, we're ridiculing you b/c of that silly video you posted. If you love tools as much as you say you do, come to GarageJournal so we can school your ass."
yea I guess your right, perhaps my intentions wernt very nice. I'm sure he has enough people poking fun at him, he doesnt need any more.
strizzy
04-05-2008, 01:49 PM
yea I guess your right, perhaps my intentions wernt very nice. I'm sure he has enough people poking fun at him, he doesnt need any more.
Either way, atleast this kid can entertain himself and has an imagination (and enjoys tools over video games). Something pretty rare with most kids these days...
Hes just an enthusiastic innocent kid and meant I no harm to him by posting his video, just enjoyment. :thumbup:
Stuey
04-05-2008, 01:50 PM
He's going to have to entertain himself a lot if he likes tools more than he likes girls!
filthy
04-05-2008, 02:04 PM
Ain't nothing like a bunch of grown men making fun of a teen with tools on youtube...
Thank god for the internet and this board.
Country
04-08-2008, 02:14 PM
That kid vid was funny as hell, but I do feel sorry for him. He means well and is just excited about the same stuff we all are. We should cut him some slack. He's trying and will learn with time.
Here's to you kid!:beer:
eschoendorff
04-08-2008, 03:28 PM
That kid vid was funny as hell, but I do feel sorry for him. He means well and is just excited about the same stuff we all are. We should cut him some slack. He's trying and will learn with time.
Here's to you kid!:beer:
Don't worry... he'll figure it out (I hope).
Stuey
04-08-2008, 04:36 PM
I don't feel bad about making fun of the video. The author obviously has a webcam/vidcam/digicam w/ vid. Why didn't he just either edit the toolbox spill! Or he could have just retaken the video!
I do feel sorry for the kid though. If he was in a public school, he would have the opportunity to put his interest to use. Play stage building, a robotics club, etc...
sharpe427
04-08-2008, 09:22 PM
I do cut the second kid some slack...he's obviously just a noob on a high. He likes tools, likes cool stuff and is just finding his way. I kinda laughed when he made a point of showing his DuraLast ratchet, though....:bowdown:
Now the first guy! Any jackass that couldn't figure out how to mount the tire changer to the floor, well.......Sorry, but how hard is to to sink 4 lags into the slab to bolt it to, than unbolt it to store?? I was sure the long breaker bar was gonna smack him in the head. :lol_hitti
Chris Adams
04-08-2008, 11:09 PM
I do cut the second kid some slack...he's obviously just a noob on a high. He likes tools, likes cool stuff and is just finding his way. I kinda laughed when he made a point of showing his DuraLast ratchet, though....:bowdown:
Now the first guy! Any jackass that couldn't figure out how to mount the tire changer to the floor, well.......Sorry, but how hard is to to sink 4 lags into the slab to bolt it to, than unbolt it to store?? I was sure the long breaker bar was gonna smack him in the head. :lol_hitti
On mounting the changer to the floor, Um, the owner of the garage would probably kick his family out if they put holes in the floor.
Renters don't get to do neat stuff like punch holes in the floor.
You would think he could master finding a big sheet of plyboard and bolting it to that...
jason96r
04-09-2008, 01:39 PM
I find no fault with the kid being excited about tools. I'm sure he will win about better tools and it looks like his dad probably owns a junkyard, so he may not ever have the best tools or the ASE training but he will more than likely know how to wrench in the future.
I watched his how to drive a stick shift video and died laughing just because the car is junked plus the boots he is wearing.
scurvy
04-09-2008, 01:59 PM
I watched his how to drive a stick shift video and died laughing just because the car is junked plus the boots he is wearing.
I watched all that kid's videos yesterday and nearly wet myself. Between his car junkyard, tools & those boots... wow. :thumbup:
brianpgriset
04-09-2008, 02:10 PM
I watched all that kid's videos yesterday and nearly wet myself. Between his car junkyard, tools & those boots... wow. :thumbup:
I watched about half of them myself yesterday. Wow, that kid is a total space case! Pretty weird. Makes me think a bit of Napoleon Dynamite.
I'm sure he's wondering where all the hits are coming from.
Country
04-09-2008, 02:52 PM
I registered on Youtube and sent him an invite to check out The Garage Journal....
We'll see if he shows up.... (Probably never know)
PoorOwner
04-09-2008, 03:36 PM
He's got like various video about his boot treading in mud and stuff, that guy really love his boots
eljefino
11-25-2008, 07:24 PM
That "kid" is me! Well, at least the first one, before the thread got seriously sidetracked...
I'm 31 years old in that video, I bought my house at age 25 without a garage, saved my money for four years, poured a pad, waited a year (to save more $$) and my father in law, a contractor, helped me frame in my humble 2.5 car garage.
I asked him, before we poured the pad, should we throw some allthread in so I could tie down my tire machine. "nah, you can always drill later and epoxy it" says he.
Boots? WTF? The "related" videos on youtube go off keywords.
That contour del bondo in the background cost me $250, I bought it cheap needing tires and body filler to pass state inspection, I paid $15 for three used tires with good tread and sold the car for well into four figures. (not that well, but worth my time). Plus it amused me which is why we all go work outside.
I mount tires probably a couple times a year. I don't need this albatross bolted in the middle of the floor (so I can walk all the way around it when I do tire work), nor do I need stubby allthread poking up for me to trip over if I were to unbolt the thing and move it into position. It was a conscious decision considering the space I have and the frequency of use.
I take great pride in doing less with more, I've rebuilt saturn 1.9 motors with the block still in the frame using tools from walmart, big lots, and harbor freight, with husky wrenches thrown in back from when I understood them to be rebadged snapon. The HF changer exemplifies this "more for less" attitude. How many of you do all your own work except tire work? How many people gripe about ordering from tire rack and having to deal with a snooty local installer?
As far as jackstands, yeah I use them when I'm under a car... Lots of people sit "indian style" doing brakes or whatnot... not me, I plot a fall path where my brake rotor or lower ball joint/control arm have a clean way down to concrete... and my tire/wheel stashed under the car somewhere. Obviously for a simple tire job, the tire/wheel is elsewhere, but I'm never in harm's way...
sl9grrl is just a BS name I registered under at youtube so I could look at the 18+ stuff. :thumbup: It was only later that I figured I'd upload a couple videos.
Crawlin
11-25-2008, 08:25 PM
One of my 42" tires on my 40lb beadlock would crush that lame machine. I used to work at a tire shop, so I can still go mount tires when I need to. I consider myself lucky, that I dont have to get help for other places, tires especially because most tire stores piss me off. I just wish I could build trannys, then my pickup would have a stage 5 allison instead of the stock weak ally.
rsanter
11-25-2008, 11:05 PM
I think that video could actually hurt the sales of that tire changer
bob
The kid with the tools you are all mocking did post here at one time. He linked that video where he knocks over his toolbox.
Some of you guys are elitist assholes. He's just a kid, as a father it pains me to see "men" mocking him. You guys should go back to polishing your tools and let the kid alone.
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