View Full Version : Not Sure What I'm Gonna Do With This But....
krooser
12-29-2005, 12:19 AM
Well, I guess I DO know what it's for....making little pieces of steel outta big pieces. It punches, shears and copes. Plus you can get tooling to use a brake, shear and fishmouth tubing, etc.
Always wanted an Ironworker...1500 lbs. of good old "Made In Usa" iron and steel...it's a vintage (old) 40 ton Ryerson...a new Scotchman similar to this is over $6,000.00.
Bought it...guess where...Ebay...$500.00...needs a motor. I guess this means I'm not buying that Milwaukee cordless Sawzall I wanted...but THAT was $250.00!
I guess I've gotta make a little more room....
bmwpower
12-29-2005, 12:26 AM
40 ton?? As in it weights 40 TONS? I hope the thing is local...
Never seen anything like that before. A shear or a brake is nice to have...
kartracer55
12-29-2005, 12:57 AM
40 ton?? As in it weights 40 TONS? I hope the thing is local...
Never seen anything like that before. A shear or a brake is nice to have...
40 tons of "clamping" (well pressing power i suppose) but its still gotta be up there in wieght. When they say 20 ton press, it means it exerts 20 tons of pressure.
Dude that thing is awesoem.. was that an impulse buy lol???
Jim
bmwpower
12-29-2005, 01:14 AM
40 tons of "clamping" (well pressing power i suppose) but its still gotta be up there in wieght. When they say 20 ton press, it means it exerts 20 tons of pressure.
Dude that thing is awesoem.. was that an impulse buy lol???
Jim
Riiight. Now it makes sense. 40 tons is like a semi truck right? Boy am I stupid.
Luckydevil
12-29-2005, 01:32 AM
That thing is bad ass. What are you going to make with it?
JeeperAz
12-29-2005, 02:52 AM
I hate you.
:)
kartracer55
12-29-2005, 11:49 AM
That thing is bad ass. What are you going to make with it?
he can always use it as a nutcracker... walnuts, pecans, macadamia nuts, those little fuggers are a PITA go crack open...
REFLEXX
12-29-2005, 01:39 PM
Flattening coins or anything else you find around the shop (don't ask how I know).
krooser
12-29-2005, 03:18 PM
I used to run one of these things in pre-OSHA days...we had lotsa guys who were a finger or two short.
These old mechanical machines use a flywheel to generate the force to do the work...the newer ones are hydraulic and you can stop 'em mid-stream but you can't stop this..it's gotta do a whole revolution before it stops.
Here's a little demo on what they do...new or old...http://www.scotchman.com/movies.php?machinename=DO%2070/110-24M&moviename=Do_70_120&mode=all
bmwpower
12-29-2005, 03:42 PM
Just watched the whole video. Holy ****, I can't believe these devices can punch through such thick steel. Unbelieveable. Doesn't even phase the thing. A finger has no chance...
If you work with metal, I could see how you'd need something like this.
Any idea how long the blades last?
Thumper
12-29-2005, 03:45 PM
We use one at where I work building boat trailers. We make all kinds of cool brackets and stuff.
Uncle Buck
12-29-2005, 04:56 PM
Krooser: I work for an OSHA state consultation program, I still see many old full rotation presses like that in many companies we go into. I am very glad to hear that you have used full rotation machines like this in the past, hopefully you will remember how much damage oldies like that can do.. Anymore industry must use more guard systems than a little bit to keep using old timers like this. I know you are well aware of the hazards with a press like this just please be carefull and remeber those old farts can always ghost cycle! :beer:
i need to watch,,, you can find something to use it for
l_bilyk
12-29-2005, 08:07 PM
Nice paperweight
krooser
12-29-2005, 08:15 PM
Krooser: I work for an OSHA state consultation program, I still see many old full rotation presses like that in many companies we go into. I am very glad to hear that you have used full rotation machines like this in the past, hopefully you will remember how much damage oldies like that can do.. Anymore industry must use more guard systems than a little bit to keep using old timers like this. I know you are well aware of the hazards with a press like this just please be carefull and remeber those old farts can always ghost cycle! :beer:
This has machine been in service until recently...the owner retired and sold off his equipment. I hope to be able to talk to the owner and get some pointers from him.
I also have two good friends who are in the machine shop biz who will give me a hand with this thing.
It will definitley be a trip....
Now I'm out of room and I have to STOP BUYING STUFF!!!!
Stuart in MN
12-29-2005, 08:59 PM
I hope the seller lives close by...otherwise UPS is going to charge you a million dollars to ship that thing. :)
Elroy
12-29-2005, 10:22 PM
40 ton won't get a 4" hole in 1" plate unless its PVC sheet.
Elroy
12-29-2005, 10:23 PM
And yes: good deal but be very careful. That thing can hurt you!
eschoendorff
12-29-2005, 10:34 PM
Now I'm out of room and I have to STOP BUYING STUFF!!!!
$20 says you can't stop :lol:
Luckydevil
12-29-2005, 11:09 PM
I want some stainless steel drink coasters. :lol:
REFLEXX
12-29-2005, 11:17 PM
Luke!
What a great idea. I want stainless switch plates!
krooser
01-13-2006, 11:04 PM
40 ton won't get a 4" hole in 1" plate unless its PVC sheet.
Yeah, you're right...I got some wrong info from the seller. It's rated at 11/16" in 3/4", I think....
BTW, I picked this up on Monday..used a crane to load it. Thursday I tried to unload it with a forklift...too heavy for the one I was using. So I used a Fiat-Allis articulated wheel loader...worked good.
I WAS going to bring it home on my 8x10 snowmobile trailer...wrong! The trailer deck dropped to the tires and I couldn't move it. Tomorrow I'm going to load it on a car trailer with a wrecker boom and deliver it to my shop and put it on a mobile cart until my forklift is operational and I can put it where I want it.
This puppy's heavy.....
Oh yeah, the build date on the data plate is 12-29...1929!!!!!!
Elroy
01-14-2006, 12:14 PM
Yeah, you're right...I got some wrong info from the seller. It's rated at 11/16" in 3/4", I think.....
Oh yeah, the build date on the data plate is 12-29...1929!!!!!!
Elroy would point out that on ANY punching operation you can't punch a hole smaller than the thickness of the plate. To be safe and avoid tooling failure your better off to go 150% of the thickness. For example: the smallest hole in 1/4" plate would be 3/8 or for 1/2" plate, no smaller than a 3/4" hole.
For mild steel you can assume 60,000 psi shear to calculate the tonage required.
Good luck and don't push it until your comfortable running it. Oh ya, wear saftey glasses and gloves! But then again that thing will bite ya gloves or not.
Hades12
01-14-2006, 12:40 PM
I Just sent a sheer like that to the scrap yard. It weighed so much at that my JD 5105 would pick it up off the gound 6inches.
number3
01-14-2006, 05:58 PM
http://www.garagejunkies.net/showthread.php?p=18495&highlight=kelvar#post18495
A vest is a good idea too.
number3
01-14-2006, 05:59 PM
http://www.garagejunkies.net/showthread.php?p=18495&highlight=kelvar#post18495
A vest is a good idea too.
vBulletin® v3.8.1, Copyright ©2000-2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.