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brad d
11-22-2008, 09:47 PM
Made a 24"+ trench for the 3/3 teck90.. i did not like the 12" of lime stone.. beat down the trencher for 12hours
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f43/leyanh/Shop6/preexercisebod004.jpg
only 18"+ where the walk way is, then popped in with these guys
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put 2"SM R10 and OSB up where i mounted the sub panles
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Ran some from the top some from the bottom, its in a 3" pocket that I will insulate with batt then drywall
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wired them up.. no this is where they might say some thing IMO.. i stripped the armor off the wire once its in the wall, because it was way too hard to bend the way I wanted it in the wall. I hope he is OK with this.. I might need to run it in conduit or install a 1/16" steel plate over the wires under the drywall. I also ran out of big staples for the 8 ga
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See any thing that might not pass? I still need to add the 70amp and wire for the 12KW boiler
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tfi racing
11-22-2008, 10:32 PM
A couple of minor errors...
Your stapling of the branch circuit wiring may be rejected,it will probably have to be stapled to the studs,not the OSB you have put over your insulation.
You need to strip the rest of the sheathing off the teck cables,no more than a half inch or so should be showing past the connector.You can reroute the ground if you are concerned about it being close to the hot lugs at the top.
The blue neutral needs to be taped or painted white,make sure the bonding screw is removed from the neutral bus bar.Also some duct seal putty should be used to seal the cable inside the PVC LB.
Other than that you should be OK,make sure you are nice to the inspector,he can make your life miserable if you tick him off!
brad d
11-22-2008, 10:44 PM
thanks for the tips, the only one i knew about was making the blue wire white.
tatra
11-22-2008, 11:00 PM
brad ,pm sent
Terry Kennedy
11-23-2008, 02:41 AM
The blue neutral needs to be taped or painted white.
Same issue with white wires on breakers in the left-hand panel. Tape or paint them red.
By the way, why are you using a Stab-lok panel for new construction?
wakeboarder311
11-23-2008, 10:25 AM
brad just wondering who makes your panel? as far as your inspection i think everyone has you on the right path.
IDASHO
11-23-2008, 10:58 AM
In addition to what TFI mentioned...
Are those conduit drops schedule 80? They must be schedule 80.
Inspector might also insist on sweeps too.
brad d
11-23-2008, 12:05 PM
Not too sure if the conduit is sch 80.. might be thinner.
The panels are Federal Stab-lok.. why did I use them... because my house has them and the house is only 4 years old. I have had good luck with them but it seems there is alot of hate for them LOL and yes I have had them pop before, could the new ones be updated?
The only other option at the supplier i went to was Square D
tfi racing
11-23-2008, 02:24 PM
By the way, why are you using a Stab-lok panel for new construction?
Believe it or not,they are probably the #2 panel in used in Canada in residential,right behind Cutler-Hammer. Siemens is the other top selling panel,Square D lags behind.Other than a recall on some of their 15A breakers a few years ago,I haven't heard of any other issues outside of this board.
brad d
11-23-2008, 02:52 PM
The other thing that i was told is there needs to be some slack in the wire feeding into the conduit, this if for building movement.
now do i only need to strip the main feed lines back to the clamp, or do i need to strip all the 14/2 12/2 ect back a bit more?
Terry Kennedy
11-23-2008, 04:05 PM
Believe it or not,they are probably the #2 panel in used in Canada in residential,right behind Cutler-Hammer. Siemens is the other top selling panel,Square D lags behind.Other than a recall on some of their 15A breakers a few years ago,I haven't heard of any other issues outside of this board.
Here in the US they have a very bad reputation (see here (http://www.inspect-ny.com/fpe/fpe.html)). While the breakers may have been re-designed to eliminate all of those flaws, I'd still be concerned about the stabs and bus bars themselves - the stabs don't provide a lot of contact area. If these are the only physical size breakers made now (instead of the old "thick" and "thin" variants) then the problem with fitting two E-stab breakers in an F-stab socket no longer applies.
By the way, on second look I think the green-handled breakers are GFI's? In that case, ignore what I said about the white wires.
brad d
11-23-2008, 04:22 PM
I dont think they are GIF's that is 10ga wire for the two 220v hoists. The greens are two post 30amps
Aceman
11-24-2008, 08:28 PM
Are those conduit drops schedule 80? They must be schedule 80.
What code article backs that statement up?
If you're going with 300.5(D)4, that article is subject to interpretation by the inspector.
IDASHO
11-24-2008, 10:01 PM
What code article backs that statement up?
If you're going with 300.5(D)4, that article is subject to interpretation by the inspector.
Nope, NEC 347-3(c)
Charles (in GA)
11-24-2008, 10:56 PM
Nope, NEC 347-3(c)
You are quoting from an old code book. Both 2005 and 2008 jump from 344 to 348. I think the 1999 code was the last one to use the dash as the 2002 and later ones use a dot instead.
Charles
Aceman
11-24-2008, 11:26 PM
Nope, NEC 347-3(c)
Please reference a current code article that says specifically sch. 80 is absolutely required and not subject to interpretation.
For the record, when I stub pvc out of the ground in my area I use sch. 40 when the conduit is installed tight to the building finish, like the OP has done. On the flip side, one example is when I stub out of the ground for equipment mounted on posts where the conduits are not tight to a building finish, then I use sch. 80.
You are quoting from an old code book. Both 2005 and 2008 jump from 344 to 348. I think the 1999 code was the last one to use the dash as the 2002 and later ones use a dot instead.
Charles
Charles, PVC is under article 352. 348 is flexible metal conduit.
brad d
11-24-2008, 11:28 PM
In the "code here" post i made it just said PVC tube....
I fixed the things you guys pointed out tonight... Some of the stuff Im going to see if he is OK with ( the staples to the OSB, Not sch 80 tube to the LB's)
Also added the 70amp and 4 gauge 3 wire for the boiler
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PAToyota
11-25-2008, 10:07 AM
The wires stapled to the OSB definitely will not pass inspection. Too easy to damage them where they are.
Take a look at this article: Fine Homebuilding - 9 Common Wiring Mistakes and Code Violations (http://www.taunton.com/finehomebuilding/PDF/Free/021190076.pdf)
A lot of useful information on the basics. From the first page:
PROBLEM: There must be a 1 1⁄4-in. clearance from the edge of a wood-framing member to any wire to keep drywall screws and long trim nails from puncturing the insulation and causing a short.
tfi racing
11-25-2008, 01:07 PM
I wouldn't mention any thing to the inspector about the PVC,it will just confuse him,the stuff you used is acceptable.Let us know what he says about your installation after his visit.
brad d
11-25-2008, 02:13 PM
Will do, stapling to the OSB is done around here.. mine will be covered up and is in a 3" pocket... I hope he is OK with it. for the bottom im going to get a steel plate made up (buddy has a laser and water jet)
Guys surface mount the panels then staple the wire to OSB all the way up the wall here.. and they dont cover it up.
brad d
11-28-2008, 11:57 AM
Passed haha... only thing he said was that i should of had boards running down the trusses where the wire skipped across them.. Just in case some one stepped on them. But he said he was OK with that, that i would never be up there anyhow.
Thanks for the help guys.
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