kerosene fuel oil or diesel?

[the intimidator]

i just got a 40,000 btu kerosene heater from my neighbor and i looked it up on the computer it says it will run on kerosene or #1 fuel oil. i was wondering if this heater will run off of diesel fuel? as i understand diesel and #1 fuel oil is abought the same thing or is it. and which is going to be cheapest kerosene or the fuel oil? or diesel if i can use it. i figure kerosene is going to be the most expensive with the other too being the cheapest diesel is 85 cents a liter and im not sure how much #1 costs. anyways which is the best to burn in the heater thanks guys

[Big_John]

i just got a 40,000 btu kerosene heater from my neighbor and i looked it up on the computer it says it will run on kerosene or #1 fuel oil. i was wondering if this heater will run off of diesel fuel? as i understand diesel and #1 fuel oil is abought the same thing or is it. and which is going to be cheapest kerosene or the fuel oil? or diesel if i can use it. i figure kerosene is going to be the most expensive with the other too being the cheapest diesel is 85 cents a liter and im not sure how much #1 costs. anyways which is the best to burn in the heater thanks guys
I prefer kerosene. I've used diesel in mine and thought it had a slightly stronger smell.

[wienerwater]

The#1 fuel oil is same as winter grade diesel. It's cleaner, and usually cheaper to buy than diesel. I know people that have been running it in thier pick-ups instead of diesel, just fill up some jery cans at the bulk plant and say it's for home!It costs less usually because there is no road tax on it etc.

[ChucksCrib]

I just paid $2.99 a gallon for K1 here in CT last night.

Nothin' is cheap these days :sad:

[DynoDave]

I just paid $2.99 a gallon for K1 here in CT last night.

Nothin' is cheap these days :sad:

Maybe I'll come visit you in a tank truck, Chuck. Here north of Detroit, I'm paying $3.99 a gallon for kero!!! :shocking:

[the intimidator]

ok guys so i can run diesel in it rite im not going to blow myself up or something :scared: ok next question i want to mount this thing on the roof in a corner would i need to put some metal around it like you would do with a fireplace the walls are cinderblocks and the roof is like stucco but it's more like a spread cement lol im concernd abought the roof because it's a attached garage. also will diesel or the fuel oil smell worse then the kerosene does thanks

[the intimidator]

quick question can i run off-road diesel instead of pump diesel or will the higher sulfer content damage the heater?

i found that kero costs around 1.50$ a litre and diesel cost on avrage 80 cents a litre thats just over 5$ a gallon for you american guys :willy_nil i found a owners manual online for my heater and it says i can run diesel in it i will let you guys now how it turns out i just have to burn off the rest of the kero then im going to try some diesel wish me luck lol

[wienerwater]

I would personally go to a local bulk plant, and buy heating oil, (the cleaner diesel), as it should be cheaper then regular diesel, and refined more for that specific aplication. As far as smell, kerosene should be similar to diesel, maybe not as harsh, but still stinks on your clothes etc. Try a search on the specific model you got, and see about literature as far as mounting distances and what not.
What is "off road diesel" compared to pump? Where I am, there is probably 500 logging trucks, and constant highway haulers. As well, probably half the town runs diesel pickups, and will fuel up at service stations and cardlock/bulk stations as well.
As long as it's winter grade diesel(#1 ,which it has to be here), it should all be the same.

[sjsfire]

I have a small 55,000 BTU Reddy Heater that I use the K1 kerosene. It does smell but you should crack a door and allow fresh air in when you use them. One thing I would like to try to use is Bio-Diesel. I have access to some and as long as you can run fuel oil which everyone is saying is #1 diesel I wonder why it wouldn't work? I'm just worried it would make make my garage smell like the local greasy spoon. When we run it in our truck at work it does smell like a fast food joint at the exhaust.

[the intimidator]

wienerwater

off-road diesel is used mostly on farms and for the construction industry around here. as im told it has a higher sulfer content and it is dye'd. the only real difference is there is no road tax and you cant run it in your trucks if you plan on using it as personal transportion around town to the mall ect it doesent meat all the enviro regs and there is no tax on it the main advantage is it's cheaper the pump diesel

sjsfire

i dont think id want the shop to smell like a fast food place either. i imagin you could run the bio diesel not 100% sure but it would save you mony instead of kerosene or diesel/fuel oil let us now how it turns out if you try it.

i have a 40,000 btu reddy heater and i am running kero rite now i find if i open the door when i light it and keep it open for a few minutes untill the heater warms up there is basicly no smell i keep the door open a few inches when i run it to keep fresh air circulating it's working great for me keeps my garage very omforatble it's nice to finally have heat -12 outside and i was doing the breaks on the truck in a tee shirt :rocker:

[wienerwater]

It's the same here, they dye/mark the "stove oil"(heating oil) as they call it , which is #1 diesel and I have a few friends running it in their pick-ups for a few years now.
They buy the stove oil because it's cheaper, hence "heating oil" for house furnaces. It's dyed/marked so that if any transport Canada inspectors suspect/see you filling up with it, they can fine you if they dip your tanks and see it's marked fuel, avoiding the pump road taxes is all, otherwise the same.
Maybe worth calling a bulk plant, and ask if the stove oil/heating oil is marked as well, see what they say.

Bio-diesel out here costs more then regular diesel, since it's new, but they make no engine mods in big trucks, so it must burn as good/better.

It's a personal choice, yet I would not hesitate trying the marked fuel.

[the intimidator]

ya i am going to experiment with some diesel before i go and buy any bulk heating oil it'll save me running accross town if i dont like it. i'll let you guys no how it turns out for me i just have to burn off the rest of the kerosene then i am going to run some diesel threw it and see how the fumes are

if your budds want to keep running the marked diesel and not get cought get one of those tool boxes that have a 50 gallon tank built in then plumb it into the fuel system it'll keep the main tank clean if they ask just say your transporting the fuel for your tractor ect :evil:

[the intimidator]

well i ran some diesel threw it it was ok but the fumes were def worse so i am going to continue running kersoene thanks for the help guy's

[krooser]

#2 will be real stinky...Jet fuel is the best...no fumes and real HOT.....works great!

[FEF]

After a quick look, it appears that Bio-diesel would burn well in the Mr Heater units.

Now, it may not be cost effective to burn bio-diesel, as it's generaly more expencive. But... If you happen to be making it, and have some extra.... Bio-diesel in a larger forced air heater may be the hot ticket.

I may have to try it, as it looks real good on paper. :)

[sjsfire]

We are doing some research on Bio Diesel here were I work. As soon as I run the kerosene out of my 55,000 btu reddy heater I'm going to try it. I'll let you know how it works. We bought the same bio-diesel making unit they had on the Spike Network show called Trucks.

[the intimidator]

We are doing some research on Bio Diesel here were I work. As soon as I run the kerosene out of my 55,000 btu reddy heater I'm going to try it. I'll let you know how it works. We bought the same bio-diesel making unit they had on the Spike Network show called Trucks.


did you ever run any bio diesel threw it? what was the out come did you like the results thanks

[sjsfire]

Not yet, I'm going to have to empty the tank on the reddy heater and try it. It's been getting warmer and I haven't used it as much. I can always burn the kerosene in the Kero Sun. I'll try and empty it out this week and try the bio-diesel.

[Lu47Dan]

Bio diesel . it ran fine in my workshops oil-fired boiler got 50 gal for free , well not exactly free , had to pump it out of a friends dozer . He thought it was the problem with it not starting . pumped out he fuel and pumped in off road diesel and it still didn't start . fuel shut off valve was closed . lol Dan

[bueche]

Just noticed you are in Ontario and thought you should consider what happens to diesel in cold weather (unless you buy it already cut). Most places in the north sell #2 diesel cut with kero in the winter. Heating oil is also cut with kero, unless your tank is in a continuously warm environment. There is nothing as frustrating as having 275gallons of "jello" in your fuel tank.


i just got a 40,000 btu kerosene heater from my neighbor and i looked it up on the computer it says it will run on kerosene or #1 fuel oil. i was wondering if this heater will run off of diesel fuel? as i understand diesel and #1 fuel oil is abought the same thing or is it. and which is going to be cheapest kerosene or the fuel oil? or diesel if i can use it. i figure kerosene is going to be the most expensive with the other too being the cheapest diesel is 85 cents a liter and im not sure how much #1 costs. anyways which is the best to burn in the heater thanks guys

[SlowandLow63]

Btt, setting up my bullet heater this wknd. I'm leaning towards the new low-sulfur diesel instead of the kero because I was hoping it might actually be cleaner. Plus its right around the corner at the local fuel station whereas kero is hard to come by. Plus pump diesel is cheaper here than pump kero.

Any new opinions?

[crowldawg]

I think you answered your own question. Go with the diesel

[Hawk231]

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if your budds want to keep running the marked diesel and not get cought get one of those tool boxes that have a 50 gallon tank built in then plumb it into the fuel system it'll keep the main tank clean if they ask just say your transporting the fuel for your tractor ect :evil:[/quote]

I can't speak for Canada, however, if you get caught running that off-road fuel in the states it'll make more than your eyes water... I'm talking fines on the order of $5000+.

I run K1 clear when I use my Kerosene heaters. The only place around here I can find it is at Speedway gas stations, and one little hardware store. Most of the places around here sell Kerosene with with red dye. That stuff stinks like hell... Besides, it's all the same price, $3.70 gal, so I may as well use the good stuff.

[Ripp]

I have a Lawnboy 220,000btu salamander in the garage.I use a 50/50 kerosene / #2 diesel mix.

Unit has a adjustable thermostate and with straight #2 diesel it really belched out smoke when it called for fire.If there was an available source of #1 diesel closeby I would go that route.The 50/50 blend makes startup/call for fire much less smokey..This unit ain't afraid of fuel,thus running staight kerosene would get pretty pricey(kerosene out the pump here in town is $4.30 per gallon).

Interesting thread..I haven't even givin thought to using home heating oil..Will look for a source of this..

[ondarock]

diesel cost on avrage 80 cents a litre

Where are you located?
Diesel is about $1.22 here in Ottawa now.

[JohnK007]

Where are you located?
Diesel is about $1.22 here in Ottawa now.


Look at the date he started his thread. 2006. Things have changed a lot in two years. Makes you wonder what it'll be like two years from now!!

[nissan_crawler]

In our Reddy Heaters we always ran 4 gallons of dyed diesel and 1 gallon of gas to keep it from jelling.