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Merkava_4
02-23-2009, 03:38 AM
Screenshot from Cornwell Video
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n284/MACDRIVE/SCREEN%20SHOTS/Cornwell_Machinery1.jpg

Click on this link!!
http://www.yamaseiki.com/yama/index.htm

See what I'm sayin'? :bounce:

autoace
02-23-2009, 04:22 AM
Screenshot from Cornwell Video
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n284/MACDRIVE/SCREEN%20SHOTS/Cornwell_Machinery1.jpg

Click on this link!!
http://www.yamaseiki.com/yama/index.htm

See what I'm sayin'? :bounce:

Not sure that's a bad thing, anyway they only claim USA steel, made in USA...they didn't mention the machines were from here.:headscrat

Jononon
02-23-2009, 04:51 AM
See what I'm sayin'? :bounce:

Not really, since Yama Seiki is a Taiwanese company ;)

jerk_chicken
02-23-2009, 04:56 AM
OMG! ASIANS!

FWIW, everyone praises Leica "Glass" when they refer to some of the best lenses in the world in photography. Guess what? The glass doesn't even come from Germany. It's long since been a poorly kept secret that Panasonic made the Leica glass due to Japan's advanced manufacturing techniques and purity of the glass used that's unrivaled anywhere else in the world. This is also why Leicas are basically rebadged Lumix cams, from the bottom point and shoots to the SLR's. In fact, one of the SLR's is shared with a Chinese made Olympus in their E-volt series. They are identical, just have different casings and lenses and sometimes few features. It was no surprise to anyone when they saw the Panasonic Leica lens "Made in Japan" and compared it to the "Leica lens "Made In Germany", there was no difference except the price.

There are just a couple Asian countries with great manufacturing. One being Japan, the other being South Korea. If you notice, much of the world gets heavy machinery of some sort from South Korea, for instance. It's a heavily industrialized nation, allied with the US, has civil rights and high pay scales and good working conditions. Same for Japan.

Merkava_4
02-23-2009, 05:01 AM
Not really, since Yama Seiki is a Taiwanese company ;)

I thought the name sounded Japanese. :dunno:

Jononon
02-23-2009, 05:28 AM
I thought the name sounded Japanese. :dunno:

Methinks they did it on purpose :headscrat

They're keen to stress their Japanese technology:

"All Yama Seiki machines are based on the latest Japanese technology and components.. Components such as spindle bearings, controls including servo and spindle motors, curvic couplings, and much more are directly from top quality suppliers in Japan."

But "Yama Seiki USA belongs to The Goodway Machine Tool Group, which includes Goodway Machine Corp. and Awea Mechantronic Co."

http://www.goodwaycnc.com/name.htm

jerk_chicken
02-23-2009, 05:50 AM
Well, some of the best bearings come from Japan, plus you have the motors and electronic control devices, so why not advertise that? It's not like YS didn't do anything. They put together offerings of differrnt parts from japan and made a function out of them.

Jononon
02-23-2009, 06:26 AM
OMG! ASIANS!

:lol_hitti

You're not quite right about the Leica lenses. While they do make the digital products Matsushita doesn't make lenses for the R or M cameras, current M lenses being entirely German, but Leica has had a long relationship with Minolta and has also used Sigma and Kyocera glass, components, and complete lenses, in addition to manufacturing its own.

Which SLR is an E-volt ? :confused:

jerk_chicken
02-23-2009, 06:33 AM
I actually have a mag that says the Leica lenses are sourced from Panasonic, and for many years now. I do know there are notable exceptions, but the e-volt series from Olympus (I have the E-510) is made in china and I saw a blow up of the previous year's model and the chassis' were identical with the Lumix and Leica.

I tend not to mind Japanese workmanship, but it's almost non-existent now. They are a modernized society with high wages and worker's rights, so in my view, it's also important to support those countries. That's why our bikes have stuff from the UK, CH, US, and Japan, where we can help it. Rounding it out, of course, is Taiwanese stuff.

Monte
02-23-2009, 10:03 AM
I thought the best lenses are from Carl Zeiss ?? :D
As long the machine tools are from Japan, USA, germany or italy etc. it`s all good :)
even some OCC bikes are made with an italian Ercolina pipe bender. :D so what :D

Jononon
02-23-2009, 10:29 AM
I actually have a mag that says the Leica lenses are sourced from Panasonic, and for many years now.

My guess would be that the author put together the Matsushita deal, that brought us the Digilux 1 and onwards, with the fact that some lenses were made by Japanese manufacturers and jumped to a conclusion :headscrat

Anyhow, everyone knows that Leicas are toys for dilettantes, real photographers use Canon :Twitch:

voidifused
02-23-2009, 11:09 AM
The fact that this has moved from cornwell tools being made by "Asian" machinery to what kind of camera people use in "real" photography is more then worth reading for a laugh!

No one country or company can make everything and anything nor be good at everything, such is life :lol: So long as they are made in the US with US steel, then its a US made product. The machines country of origin has little or nothing to do with it. IMO Feel free to discuss though :thumbup:

Chris Adams
02-23-2009, 11:27 AM
Heck, make it less on topic.
The MI tank is made with British armor and a German gun...
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Seriously, every country has things they do best.
Good with me.
I like Russian Vodka, Greek Metaxa, Scottish whiskey.

rinny_tin_tin
02-23-2009, 11:31 AM
Screenshot from Cornwell Video
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n284/MACDRIVE/SCREEN%20SHOTS/Cornwell_Machinery1.jpg

Click on this link!!
http://www.yamaseiki.com/yama/index.htm

See what I'm sayin'? :bounce:

So what - the best sub props are made on jap cnc machines - second to none

r6_cannibal
02-23-2009, 12:10 PM
I thought the best lenses are from Carl Zeiss ?? :D
As long the machine tools are from Japan, USA, germany or italy etc. it`s all good :)
even some OCC bikes are made with an italian Ercolina pipe bender. :D so what :D

OMG! ASIANS!

FWIW, everyone praises Leica "Glass" when they refer to some of the best lenses in the world in photography. Guess what? The glass doesn't even come from Germany. It's long since been a poorly kept secret that Panasonic made the Leica glass due to Japan's advanced manufacturing techniques and purity of the glass used that's unrivaled anywhere else in the world. This is also why Leicas are basically rebadged Lumix cams, from the bottom point and shoots to the SLR's. In fact, one of the SLR's is shared with a Chinese made Olympus in their E-volt series. They are identical, just have different casings and lenses and sometimes few features. It was no surprise to anyone when they saw the Panasonic Leica lens "Made in Japan" and compared it to the "Leica lens "Made In Germany", there was no difference except the price.

There are just a couple Asian countries with great manufacturing. One being Japan, the other being South Korea. If you notice, much of the world gets heavy machinery of some sort from South Korea, for instance. It's a heavily industrialized nation, allied with the US, has civil rights and high pay scales and good working conditions. Same for Japan.

Hasselblad for the win!! :lol_hitti

As long as the machining and manufacturing is quality, the rest shouldn't matter as long as there aren't human rights issues.

Just my two bits :beer:

old salvage
02-23-2009, 12:48 PM
Heck, make it less on topic.
The MI tank is made with British armor and a German gun...
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Seriously, every country has things they do best.
Good with me.
I like Russian Vodka, Greek Metaxa, Scottish whiskey.

:thumbup:
I love my Japanese movies & cartoons.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_v0fV15P7uQo/SB8WIjOuLoI/AAAAAAAACD0/KLuRylrbUzI/s400/gxmg2002a.jpg

-B-
02-23-2009, 01:18 PM
Bit of a rant here it means no harm or pointed at any one person, it only serves to educate.

Quality is the only thing that counts not where it is made. (unless it is the evil axis) Things you do not under stand is that the Taiwanese have some of the most sophisticated CNC capabilities in the world, they also have some of the best extrusion processes. The Taiwanese also lead the world in carbon fiber technology and production, for sports, aerospace, and the FIA, Indy car, heavy depend on them for tubs and body panels. Most media ( vido & photos) are shot and produced with Asian equipment, the computers you are on are Asian.

Quality shines through not country of manufacturer looking blindly at where something is made is tantamount to ignorance of quality. Some of the best production craftsmanship and pride in work I have ever seen has come from the Baltic nations, at what would be considered cheap quality pricing.



next up cold forging why it makes a superior tool .....

kythri
02-23-2009, 01:35 PM
Heck, Chinese sweat-shops crank out some of the best AK-47 variants the world has ever seen...

And then, here in the States, we've got companies like DPMS who can't read a public domain blueprint to save their life...

fotoflojoe
02-23-2009, 01:44 PM
Anyhow, everyone knows that Leicas are toys for dilettantes, real photographers use Canon :Twitch:

Tell that to a Hasselblad user and see what happens.
:lol_hitti

Elroy
02-23-2009, 05:15 PM
I thought the name sounded Japanese. :dunno:

What does "Funac" sound like ?? :headscrat ??

The basic machine might be made overseas but the controls are GE Funac / Allen Bradley based.

Elroy
02-23-2009, 05:21 PM
Elroy would suggest that you don't start your posts:

My guess would be that ......................

Making initial statements like this tends to enter doubt in the readers mind that the author really doesn't know what they're talking about. :dunno:

Jononon
02-23-2009, 06:16 PM
Making initial statements like this tends to enter doubt in the readers mind that the author really doesn't know what they're talking about. :dunno:

While I could have made a definitive statement, I cannot presume any certainty as to where the author gained his belief that Matsushita has for many years been responsible for Leica glass.

Merkava_4
02-23-2009, 09:29 PM
Yama Seiki GA-2600

Do you guys know what it does by any chance? :confused:

It's got a rotating turret with what looks like a lot of drill bits. :dunno:

-B-
02-23-2009, 10:07 PM
http://www.yamaseiki.com/yama/turning_centers/ga_2000/index.htm

It is a CNC turret turning center. 10"

beelsr
02-24-2009, 02:44 AM
Umm, that would be "whisky". American & Irish whiskeys are whiskey but Scottish & Canadian whiskies are whisky.

edit: Oh, and Japanses whiskies are whisky.


Scottish whiskey.

Merkava_4
02-24-2009, 02:48 AM
I'm planin' on finding out what each one of the machines in the video does; it may take me awhile though. :spit:

Kevin54
02-24-2009, 04:28 AM
What does "Funac" sound like ??

I think it is spelled Fanuc.

And as far as Japanese machinery....you'd be hard pressed to find any American made machinery. Almost all of our CNC mills and Turning Centers are Japanese. When it comes to technology, the Japanese have it going on.

rhandwor
02-24-2009, 09:58 PM
Almost all machinery in the US is foreign made. I think they started taking over in the 1950's.

Monte
02-24-2009, 10:15 PM
Haas is still US made AFAIK

speed bump
02-24-2009, 10:21 PM
Haas is still US made AFAIK

Yep and they are pretty darn good machines. Through some random schenagins our school has a Haas tool room mill, an SL30 lathe and VF5 5 axis vertical milling machines great stuff.