My Firestone breaker bars!!

[wrenchr]

So far I have a 1/2 pebble grain and a 1/4 firestone breaker bar and now I need a 3/8.
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk173/wrenchr/banquetandmore597.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk173/wrenchr/banquetandmore594.jpg

[toolnut]

Nice, those have to be rare or at least I never knew they existed!!:beer:

[wrenchr]

I have had some good luck this year with these kind of odd ball finds!!

[toolnut]

I have had some good luck this year with these kind of odd ball finds!!

Any guess to what year they may be from??:headscrat

[wrenchr]

Any guess to what year they may be from??:headscrat

They were made by Plomb and I'm no expert:confused:

[toolnut]

I have to say I haven't seen any off the Plomb stuff out my way. I travel to all the car swaps and flea markets for miles around. Just on Ebay.

[wrenchr]

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk173/wrenchr/banquetandmore581.jpg

[Diesel_Crawler]

Could they have been a one time promotional item made for Firestone perhaps?

[billymade]

The big one... kinda reminds me of a vintage Indestro or Plomb/Proto BB I have; what do you guys think?

[jwitt]

My entire Firestone collection, 1/4" -

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss253/thosewitts/100_0105.jpg

Could they have been a one time promotional item made for Firestone perhaps?

Years ago Firestone had stores that sold lots of Firestone branded stuff, lawnmowers, bikes, tools etc. Like the old Western Auto stores did.

Jim

[Uncle Buck]

Firestone, like Western Auto, used to sell their own line of tools badged with their name, or in WA case the name Wizard. Firestone stores of the sixties sold some appliances, bicycles, really cool colored tires, ond the coolest cheater slick of anyone for a 20" bike, and tools that by then were made by New Brittian if memory is correct. WA, actually was very much the same, with tons of bicycle accessories as well.

[chrislehr]

I bid on a 3/8 one not long ago and lost. Either way, some nice Plomb pebbles :D

[sk farmer]

i know where there is a 1/2 breaker along with a spinner handle. what should i pay for them.

[wrenchr]

I paid $15.00 for the 1/2 and $5.00 for the 1/4.

[Tool Pants]

I never heard of Firestone branded tools until I started on this message board. I did not believe Firestone branded tools had anything to do with the tire company. But when you compare the logos, they are the same.

I bought this one at the flea market today, from a guy who bought the tools from a machinest that had died. The seller did have a bunch of old Proto and Plumb, but also other brands.

I have wanted a Firestone for a while, so of course I set it aside while I was sorthing through the other stuff. Then I found a clone with a round knurled handle in the pile. Whoever made the clone made the Firestone, and simply had a different handle. They do not look like Plomb to me, but I have just started with Plomb.

Someone needs to ID the clone, and that is who made the Firestone ratchet. Only marks on the clone is R-10 and made in USA. Only marks on the Firestone is Firestone on the handle.

[tpolley]

for what its worth i used to work at freestone. we had company provided torque wrenches. they were obviously made by snapon but they had firestone written all over them. perhaps these firestone tools were provided by the company to its mechanics?

[caper]

I never heard of Firestone branded tools until I started on this message board. I did not believe Firestone branded tools had anything to do with the tire company. But when you compare the logs, they are the same.

I bought this one at the flea market today, from a guy who bought the tools from a machinest that had died. The seller did have a bunch of old Proto and Plumb, but also other brands.

I have wanted a Firestone for a while, so of course I set it aside while I was sorthing through the other stuff. Then I found a clone with a round knurled handle. Whoever made the clone made the Firestone, and simply had a different handle. They do not look like Plomb to me, but I have just started with Plomb.

Someone needs to ID the clone, and that is who made the Firestone ratchet. Only marks on the clone is R-10 and made in USA.



Check out the Fleet,Penens and Challengers for sale in the classifieds now.They look identical to those firestone ratchets.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45207

[arkangel06]

Awesome looking tools guys!

[JohnFreeman]

I think Plomb made some of the Firestone ratchets. I have one and it's quite smooth.

[Tool Pants]

I think your hint of the ratchets for sale figured most of the mystery.

The Firestone ratchets did not look like Plomb/Proto to me. But I am new to those those brands.

First pic is from the for sale section on this message board, with the 3 middle being Fleet, Penens, and Challenger. Model 1661 for all 3 ratchets for sale. All those brands are part of the Plumb/Proto empire.

Second pic is from AA of a Penens 1661.

Third pic is my Firestone and the clone I bought today. I put a ruller in the pic so I would look like AA.

Based upon the above, I do not think Plomb or Proto made the Firestone ratchets, but it was one of their subsidiaries. Per AA the Plomb owned company Penens producted tools for the Fleet and Challenger brands. My assumption therefore is that Penens made the Firestone ratchet.

When I get a chance I will take the Firestone and it's clone apart.

[caper]

Anybody know if Proto or Plumb have a version of the 1661 as well?

[Tool Pants]

Here they are apart. Identical except for the handle. Both are chrome plated. I was hoping to see some stampings on the inside plates, but there was nothing.

Each ratchet had a screw and hole in the plate where the threads were a bit screwed up, so I cleaned it up with a tap and die.

The inside design looks like a Plomb/Proto. Per AA Plomb purchased Penens in 1942, and I think Penens Corporation made the Firestone ratchets. The pebble finish around Firestone is like my Plomb/Proto pebbles.

[MOPARHOUND!]

Based upon the above, I do not think Plomb or Proto made the Firestone ratchets, but it was one of their subsidiaries. Per AA the Plomb owned company Penens produced tools for the Fleet and Challenger brands. My assumption therefore is that Penens made the Firestone ratchet.


My assumption is the same, the "teardrop" styled head with the Plomb/Proto design ratchet mechanism was produced by Penens, and sold under various brand names.

Anybody know if Proto or Plumb have a version of the 1661 as well?

Have yet to see a "teardrop" example with the Proto or Plomb logo. They either have oval or figure eight style cover plates.

Interestingly enough, there is a Proto oval head ratchet with a Firestone style handle in the collection.

[Tool Pants]

Here is a Montgomery Wards Speed Master from tompepper on papawswrench.com.

I want one.