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rhandwor
09-10-2009, 08:27 PM
I stopped at a friend's shop today he had a Mitsubishi Eclipse to do a clutch job.
He originally thought it was a 12 point bolt but his 12 points didn't fit. An air hammer and a sharp tool was used to bump it so it could be turned out by hand.
New bolts from the hardware store was used on the reinstall.
It appears to be a 13mm or maybe 12mm 10 point bolt. Its made identical to a 12 point bolt with only 10 points.
Does anyone know of a supplier for a socket.

nismomans13
09-10-2009, 09:19 PM
uhh what year eclipse is this, because I had a first and second gen and NEVEr needed special tools to do a clutch job. Heck, on the 95 to 99 models its a dodge engine under the hood, unless its a turbo model, in that case, its the same motor from 91 to 99. I can't attest to newer models though.

vssjim
09-10-2009, 10:11 PM
They made those bolts a funny size so people would not remove them, I think they just took apart a flywheel that was made in two parts bolted together and not supose to be taken back apart but air hammers and stuff did it any way. I have seen these before and you didn't need to take those bolts out to do the job.

Stick Figure
09-11-2009, 12:19 AM
They made those bolts a funny size so people would not remove them, I think they just took apart a flywheel that was made in two parts bolted together and not supose to be taken back apart but air hammers and stuff did it any way. I have seen these before and you didn't need to take those bolts out to do the job.


Yeah the 420A chrysler motor had that clutch/flywheel assembly. Not sure what happened on the 2000+ models though

chrislib
09-11-2009, 06:10 AM
That clutch is only available as an assembly from Mitsu. It is a Sach`s unit that comes pre-assembled (flywheel/disc/cover) and it attaches to the crank very much like an auto trans torque converter. In other words, it was not meant to be taken apart. Now as far as the aftermarket, I have no idea if the disc is available separately...BTW I am assuming your are talking about a 95 and up non-turbo (420a like someone else posted).

rhandwor
09-11-2009, 08:37 AM
It was a newer model as suggested.

Moose-LandTran
09-11-2009, 08:39 AM
Anyone got a pic of this clutch setup? Sounds pretty interesting. Almost like a dual mass or something?

brockstar
09-11-2009, 09:01 AM
It's a neat piece of packaging really. I've done clutches in a Sebring and a PT Cruiser - you just pull it out of the box, clean any oil off and put it in like a torque converter. No worries with making sure the disk is aligned etc.

Sorry Moose, no pics.

Moose-LandTran
09-11-2009, 09:06 AM
It's a neat piece of packaging really. I've done clutches in a Sebring and a PT Cruiser - you just pull it out of the box, clean any oil off and put it in like a torque converter. No worries with making sure the disk is aligned etc.

Sorry Moose, no pics.

Sounds like a neat setup. Some of our Vauxhalls (GM) you can swap the cluches without pulling the gearbox. The bellhousing has a coverplate on the bottom that can be removed, then you pull the imput shaft back and unbolt the pressure and it falls out. The new clutch is held aligned using special clips. I've yet to do one, but it sure sounds interesting. :)

UK Steve
09-11-2009, 10:43 AM
39376

This is the only 10pt I'm aware of it's for adjustment of caster/camber on Honda Civic, there's two sizes around 14mm & 16mm made by Ko-ken

rhandwor
09-11-2009, 08:15 PM
39376

This is the only 10pt I'm aware of it's for adjustment of caster/camber on Honda Civic, there's two sizes around 14mm & 16mm made by Ko-ken

Would you happen to have the Koken numbers?

UK Steve
09-29-2009, 11:15 AM
Sorry for the delay......... The Ko-ken part no's are 14400BP & 14400BP-1 hope this helps

HandyManny
09-29-2009, 11:22 AM
They made those bolts a funny size so people would not remove them, I think they just took apart a flywheel that was made in two parts bolted together and not supose to be taken back apart but air hammers and stuff did it any way. I have seen these before and you didn't need to take those bolts out to do the job.

That clutch is only available as an assembly from Mitsu. It is a Sach`s unit that comes pre-assembled (flywheel/disc/cover) and it attaches to the crank very much like an auto trans torque converter. In other words, it was not meant to be taken apart. Now as far as the aftermarket, I have no idea if the disc is available separately...BTW I am assuming your are talking about a 95 and up non-turbo (420a like someone else posted).


Funny, it happens a lot. There are just so many mechanics out there who just don't seem to know what they are doing anymore.

rhandwor
09-29-2009, 02:46 PM
Funny, it happens a lot. There are just so many mechanics out there who just don't seem to know what they are doing anymore.

http://www.ebay.com/ Search item 370198886727 This is a picture of a Mitsubishi clutch.
Everyone I've done you unbolt the pressure plate from the flywheel remove it and the clutch disk, replace the throw out bearing. Some have hydraulic slave cylinder that you replace. Then you unbolt the flywheel and remove it. A mobile clutch supplier comes to the shop and grinds the flywheel. If you have a shop
getting the flywheel ground prevents come backs.
These bolts attached the pressure plate to the flywheel. They were done to get you to go to the dealer.

rhandwor
09-29-2009, 02:47 PM
Sorry for the delay......... The Ko-ken part no's are 14400BP & 14400BP-1 hope this helps
Thanks for the part numbers I will try to get one.

rhandwor
11-09-2009, 09:14 AM
I noticed on a Dodge web site the 10 point bolts have started showing up.
I would assume Miller makes a socket for this purpose.

tj90
11-09-2009, 04:52 PM
This is interesting. Porsche clutches, which are sachs as well, require a 12 point male bit. Those are available anywhere....