View Full Version : best way of building shelf on concrete wall


Sonders
05-20-2010, 08:21 AM
Hey guys, I'm wanting to put up a shelf in my little utility garage to free up a little bit of floor space. The only wall I have available is a solid concrete wall. How would I go about putting up a shelf. I'm thinking just a single shelf, about 5 - 6 ft up, but not sure on the length. It will be used mainly for storing paint cans and buckets. Thanks for any suggestions you may have!
--Brad--

TRC51
05-20-2010, 08:23 AM
Tapcons. :thumbup:

Red05GT
05-20-2010, 08:27 AM
Tapcons or wedge bolt anchors.

sberry
05-20-2010, 05:01 PM
Did some for a Bud.

Wingnut65
05-21-2010, 08:18 AM
Sky Hooks?

Ok, They beat me to it, +3 for Tapcons. With shelf angles or welded steel brackets as per sberry's build. If you are concerned about the weight with the 3/16" , go for the 1/4" .

jeff

TONE
05-21-2010, 08:22 AM
Im not a fan of tapcons. I prefer lags with sheilds. Both will work though.

If using tapcons make sure you use the correct bit for the screw.

Sonders
05-21-2010, 08:29 AM
sberry, I like that shelve you built. Anybody else have any pics they want to share of shelves they built on a concrete wall?

Salem747
05-21-2010, 10:42 AM
Ditto on Tapcons. Get the 1/4" hex head ones, they torque in better, make sure you get a nice thick one too. Depending on your design the fasteners will be in a shear failure mode. The best design is like the photo above where you provide a cantilever, that way the top fastener is in tension and the bottom ones are just for show as the force is actually against the wall. Fasteners in shear is never the best way to go.

There are also knockoff Tapcons that I have used, quite a bit cheaper but same idea. I forget the brand name, went to a proper lumber yard and that was what they had.

wormwood
05-21-2010, 11:03 AM
I'd use small redheads.

http://www.itwredhead.com/dynabolt_prod02.asp

Sonders
05-21-2010, 04:59 PM
I need to do some shopping; find some metal brackets and tapcons. I have plenty of lumber laying around for the actual shelf. Speaking of lumber laying around, that'll be the next project put up some type of brackets that will hold some lumber up out of the way. I gotta get this garage more organized; it's small (10x12) utility garage, so every little bit of space is important.

NUTTSGT
05-22-2010, 11:46 AM
Since nobody else has suggested it, I'll say it.


Tapcons.


oh wait . . .

nate379
05-22-2010, 11:51 AM
Tapcon, concrete nails, or Hilti Gun (aka Ramset)

Brandon_K
05-22-2010, 12:24 PM
I'm not a fan of Tapcon's. First choice would be Redheads, second would be lags + shields.

I would never use a Ramset in that type of situatio, I would only use a Ramset in a shear load, not in a tensile.

nate379
05-22-2010, 12:32 PM
Uh shelf on wall is shear load.

And yes I would use a redhead too. mmmmmmmmmm

http://theglamourouslife.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/lindsaylohanphotonv1.jpg

logical
05-22-2010, 12:35 PM
If the rafters above are exposed, another way is to suspend the shelves from wood or metal attached above and not go into the wall at all. I've done this in several previous houses basements

logical
05-22-2010, 12:36 PM
Uh shelf on wall is shear load.

And yes I would use a redhead too. mmmmmmmmmm

http://theglamourouslife.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/lindsaylohanphotonv1.jpg

I think that particular one is pretty much all used up.

Brandon_K
05-22-2010, 12:39 PM
Uh shelf on wall is shear load.


That greatly depends on how big your shelf is and how far it extends out from the wall. The more weight the further out on the shelf, the more it turns into a linear load as the weight pulls and pivots on the shelf supports.

Sonders
05-25-2010, 08:27 AM
the shelf probably won't be that big; just wide enough to sit paint cans and such on. I'm thinking probably 5-6 ft long x 1 ft deep. My brother in law is a builder and he was going to help build it, and was wanting to do something suspended from the rafters above. I really want to do something a little more simplified than that. I went to the local hardware store and got some shelf brackets; they are the kind that one side is twice as long as the other and they have a angle bar for support. I can put 4 tapcons in each one, and I plan on using three brackets. Then I'll just put a board across the top for the actual shelf. If that makes since

hudone
05-25-2010, 01:27 PM
I think that particular one is pretty much all used up.

LOL.......that one has been used up for a long time:spit: