rikbolen
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iv been contracting for 15 years, always building something for someone else. im finally building something for myself. here are some of my pics, ill post more as i progress.
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30' x 40' from the ground up.....just not all the way up yet
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DaveL.
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Same size as mine. Keep us updated.
cdrewferd
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That's going to be a nice garage.
WhatThaFrig
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Good progress. 30x40 is about the size I'm wanting to build.
C_F
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Same thing I was thinking.toolman said:
Looks good, though.
I assume you have to put the plywood on the walls before the rafters go up to give more support?i left the plywood 2 feet low so when i add a 24" floor truss, one full sheet laying down will be flush to the top of the truss. then the gambriel (barn style) roof will start there.C_F said:Same thing I was thinking.
Looks good, though.
ok. i finally have some more progress, the rainy season is on me now....its getting slower.......heres some more pics of progress and my crew...these young guys are hell....they still had energy to clown around but i could barely operate the camera by the time we were done. i also had to throw in a pic of the one ton, this project would be rough without it.rikbolen said:
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1320stang
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Looks good, what is the load rating on those floor trusses?
Bib Overalls
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Keep the pictures coming!
Bill McCauley
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Rick,
Safety Bill here...great pics. You do good work. See ya tomorrow...
Safety Bill here...great pics. You do good work. See ya tomorrow...
russlaferrera
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Metal studs are becoming more commonplace. Me thinks it was a great choice. A lot of people do not like them . I guess all they see are the residential ones at the home centers. Once yuo put the skin on it becomes very ridged. You are doing a great job. Best of luck, be safe....russ
cncjerry
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I like the metal studs a company just opened up down the road from my place and that is all they deal with is structural steel. Can this be a direct replacement for wood construction or do they have to be figured into the plans of the building for load or what not?
Edit: By the way great garage.
Edit: By the way great garage.
C_F
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I agree, the ones at home centers are pretty wimpy looking & lots are damaged just from people looking at them in the store. I assume commercial ones are thicker steel?russlaferrera said:
Great looking progress, looking forward to more pics.
boiler7904
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There are two types of light gage metal studs. Structural and Non-structural. Non structural are used for non-loading bearing walls like basement buildouts or partitions in office buildings. This is what you see when you go to Lowes or Home Depot. You're right, they get bent real easily and are very flimsy once they get to be about 16 or 18 long.
Structural studs are required when you want to support a load like a floor or a whole roof like the op is doing.
The building should be designed to be built using metal studs from the beginning, although it is possible to reverse engineer it from wood framing to metal framing if all loads are known.
Use of structural studs is pretty rare around here even in low-rise commercial work because there are extra steps (mostly blocking) to take to make exterior doors and windows work. It also costs a little bit more. Typically, we see a 2x4 or 2x6 wood stud with either plywood or Dens-Glass exterior sheathing, batt insulation, and a drywall interior finish on exterior walls. Interior walls are typically light gage 3 5/8" metal studs with drywall on both sides.
From a MEP trade standpoint, steel studs are great because they don't have to drill as many holes to do rough in work. The biggest thing driving the use of wood is labor. Every carpenter and wantabe carpenter can work with wood. It takes some more training to work with the steel. Depending on the local AHJ, steel framing may also have local code acceptance issues. Inspectors don't like to be trendsetters or guinea pigs. They stick to what they know and what is locally proven.
Structural studs are required when you want to support a load like a floor or a whole roof like the op is doing.
The building should be designed to be built using metal studs from the beginning, although it is possible to reverse engineer it from wood framing to metal framing if all loads are known.
Use of structural studs is pretty rare around here even in low-rise commercial work because there are extra steps (mostly blocking) to take to make exterior doors and windows work. It also costs a little bit more. Typically, we see a 2x4 or 2x6 wood stud with either plywood or Dens-Glass exterior sheathing, batt insulation, and a drywall interior finish on exterior walls. Interior walls are typically light gage 3 5/8" metal studs with drywall on both sides.
From a MEP trade standpoint, steel studs are great because they don't have to drill as many holes to do rough in work. The biggest thing driving the use of wood is labor. Every carpenter and wantabe carpenter can work with wood. It takes some more training to work with the steel. Depending on the local AHJ, steel framing may also have local code acceptance issues. Inspectors don't like to be trendsetters or guinea pigs. They stick to what they know and what is locally proven.
thanks for all the replys fellas, i was starting to think no one was paying attention to my project....... as for the metals studs, yes i think they are becoming more common in residential applications but i use them everyday for commercial build out so im familiar with procedure but the main reason i went with them was because another contractor gave me a great deal on them due to over buying and for some reason he could not credit them. the ones im using are 16 gauge 6" heavy gauge for exterior structure. and i do like the fact that i wont have to drill as many holes, they will not rot, and they wont burn.
hey robin,tccracer said:Rick,
What do you think your material cost is going to be? I am getting ready to build and trying to find out about costs?
Robin
im not exactly sure what my total cost will be yet. the codes office here in knoxville estimate a garage at $40 per sq ft. ...... thats how they charge you for your permit anyway....
Down Under Bloke
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That's going along well; will you have much of a view from the balcony
C_F
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Looks like it's coming along nicely.
A balcony on a garage...that's perfect!
A balcony on a garage...that's perfect!
this is my original tool and lawnmower storage
when it became full i had to build this one....and of course it is also completley full
hopefully this is the last one ill have to build. I plan on tearing the original shed down but im sure ill regret it after the wife fills the loft of the new garage.
when it became full i had to build this one....and of course it is also completley full
hopefully this is the last one ill have to build. I plan on tearing the original shed down but im sure ill regret it after the wife fills the loft of the new garage.
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NWOhioChevyGuy
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Great looking garage, with the floor trusses what type of Gambrel are you going to use?
I am looking at a very similar project in the next year and would love to have a full span without support like yours. If I use a Gambrel truss I need to have a support beam down the center of my 32' span.
Thanks
keith
I am looking at a very similar project in the next year and would love to have a full span without support like yours. If I use a Gambrel truss I need to have a support beam down the center of my 32' span.
Thanks
keith
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thanks keith,
im gonna stick build the gambrel. my floor trusses have an engineered bearing point at 4' in from each end. at that point i will build a 7 foot wall. my lower part of the gambrel will span from the top of the floor truss to the top of the wall, and then the upper part will go from top of wall to center peak at a 5/12 pitch. hopefully i will have pics of this in a couple of weeks. i still cant believe im finally to the roof.....its been a strugle, but i think it will be well worth it!
thetastelingers
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that is taking shape nicely!rikbolen said:
cdrewferd
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Looking good.
firebird 97
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Looks really good
ersatzs2
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Great looking building. When I was ~12 or so my dad and I built a garage in our back yard in northern westchester NY that looked like a 50% scale version of yours. I always liked the Mansard roof design, a really efficient way to get extra space.