View Full Version : Genius Tool vs. Snap-on extra long box end wrenches


hooptytank
09-16-2010, 10:44 PM
I own a SO set of 15* offset 12 pt long double box wrenches I use mainly on header bolts and other hard to reach stuff. this is the hot ticket for headers with pretty bends and huge primaries that make it a PITA to actually tighten them so the gaskets never leak.

I want to get a set of 0* offset, but since they don't see much use and at 3-4X more, I am willing to give something else a try.

Anyone own / use the genius long wrenches and how are they holding up for you?

Snap on 3/8,7/16 0* offset here (http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=hand&item_ID=68004&group_ID=17469&store=&dir=catalog)

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/objects_lg/42700/42640.JPG

Genius set here (http://www.geniustools.net/news08/pdf/Extra_Long_Bo_%20End_Wrench.pdf)

http://www.geniustoolsusa.com/imgs/toolsjpg/DE-704S_large.jpg

chadster1
09-16-2010, 10:59 PM
I havent seen a set of those particular Genius wrenches but the ones that I have seen look to be a quality tool. I would not be afraid to purchase them. FYI, I carry a set of of Genius combination wrenches on the tool bag of my ATV.

hooptytank
09-16-2010, 11:39 PM
Thanks for the info above, Also found the similar wrenches from names like ATD (http://atdtools.com/product.php?id=1485) and V8 Tools (http://v8tools.com/pg3.html#8007)

Probably from the same supplier?

scottmlew
09-17-2010, 12:50 AM
I want to get a set of 0* offset, but since they don't see much use and at 3-4X more, I am willing to give something else a try.


Have you looked at the Cornwells? They are not cheap, but they are the best offering imho. If you wait for them to go on sale, they're not too bad price-wise. (note that they run them on sale at 2 different prices -- one that's an extremely big discount, the other not so much)

bchee
09-17-2010, 01:03 AM
Check toptul also
http://www.wrenhandtools.com/wrenches/flat_type_double_ring.html


and JTC on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/0-Degree-Extra-Long-Offset-Box-End-Wrench-Tool-22-x-24-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem563f792769QQitemZ37043 2092009QQptZMotorsQ5fAutomotiveQ5fTools


I'm not sure they are all identical, because the lengths vary a little bit

muskaman67
09-19-2010, 01:21 PM
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69350
i have the cornwell ones and i looove them.

bchee
09-19-2010, 02:49 PM
Make sure you check the included sizes.
I noticed the Genius set (metric) has many duplicated sizes, for some reason.
10MM X 12MM
12MM X 14MM
13MM X 15MM
14MM X 17MM
16MM X 18MM
17MM X 19MM

jymmiejamz
09-19-2010, 03:47 PM
Make sure you check the included sizes.
I noticed the Genius set (metric) has many duplicated sizes, for some reason.


I think my Snap On set has two 15 mm in it. I am certain it has at least one size that has a duplicate.

mrholeshot
09-19-2010, 04:12 PM
I own a SO set of 15* offset 12 pt long double box wrenches I use mainly on header bolts and other hard to reach stuff. this is the hot ticket for headers with pretty bends and huge primaries that make it a PITA to actually tighten them so the gaskets never leak.



I use ARP 12 point 5/16 head 3/8X1 stainless header bolts in my Chevelle. I have no trouble getting a wrench on them. Ended my header leak woes

Moose-LandTran
09-19-2010, 04:16 PM
I think my Snap On set has two 15 mm in it. I am certain it has at least one size that has a duplicate.

I think it's 14x15 and 15x16. I have a set too.

wafrederick
09-19-2010, 06:29 PM
I have a set,a Matco set and love the set which I have been using a lot.Matco does not give theirs away,I paid $250.12 for the set

truckdriver
09-19-2010, 06:46 PM
I have the SAE set from Genuis and I'm very satisfied. IIRC, they are longer than the SO. I also have the 15* SAE splines from SO and wanted some 0*. I only bought the Genius because I really don't use them much and couldn't justify buying the SO to use 1-2 times a year.

mspecperformance
09-19-2010, 07:14 PM
I just realized Genius doesn't make an 11 mm. Wack.

bchee
09-19-2010, 07:54 PM
I just realized Genius doesn't make an 11 mm. Wack.

This set has fewer duplicates, but still no 11mm
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/0-Degree-6pcs-Extra-Long-Offset-Box-End-Wrench-Tool-Set-/270637112886?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item3f033a9e36

mspecperformance
09-19-2010, 08:01 PM
This set has fewer duplicates, but still no 11mm
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/0-Degree-6pcs-Extra-Long-Offset-Box-End-Wrench-Tool-Set-/270637112886?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item3f033a9e36



probably the same set of wrenches from Genius.

hooptytank
09-20-2010, 06:32 AM
I use ARP 12 point 5/16 head 3/8X1 stainless header bolts in my Chevelle. I have no trouble getting a wrench on them. Ended my header leak woes

Some large primary tube SBC headers have very little clearance depending on what chassis they're in. these long wrenches and 12 pt. ARP's keep things snug for sure.

I have the SAE set from Genuis and I'm very satisfied. IIRC, they are longer than the SO. I also have the 15* SAE splines from SO and wanted some 0*. I only bought the Genius because I really don't use them much and couldn't justify buying the SO to use 1-2 times a year.

I'm in the same boat, glad to hear a few satisfied users.

I just realized Genius doesn't make an 11 mm. Wack.

I don't think I've ever used an 11mm anything. All my 11's are brand new :headscrat

mrholeshot
09-20-2010, 06:44 AM
Some large primary tube SBC headers have very little clearance depending on what chassis they're in. these long wrenches and 12 pt. ARP's keep things snug for sure.


Yeah I ran into that probem with some of the big inch SBC, The cure was a set of Stahl adaptor plates.

nosmanta
04-11-2014, 09:59 PM
I own a SO set of 15* offset 12 pt long double box wrenches I use mainly on header bolts and other hard to reach stuff. this is the hot ticket for headers with pretty bends and huge primaries that make it a PITA to actually tighten them so the gaskets never leak.

I want to get a set of 0* offset, but since they don't see much use and at 3-4X more, I am willing to give something else a try.

Anyone own / use the genius long wrenches and how are they holding up for you?

Snap on 3/8,7/16 0* offset here (http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=hand&item_ID=68004&group_ID=17469&store=&dir=catalog)

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/objects_lg/42700/42640.JPG

Genius set here (http://www.geniustools.net/news08/pdf/Extra_Long_Bo_%20End_Wrench.pdf)

http://www.geniustoolsusa.com/imgs/toolsjpg/DE-704S_large.jpg

Hello!

Do you mind giving me the snap on part number of the 3/8 x 7/16 long box wrench that you have and maybe if you still have the 0 degree offset part number? I cannot seem to find them in the snap on website. Thank you!

tbaggz
04-11-2014, 10:07 PM
Beware the v8 tools.most definitely junk and not made by the same manufacturer.my experiences with their tools has been all bad.Atd is OK but not on par with genius.I think Kabo makes the good ones.

Wakefield
04-11-2014, 10:37 PM
Hello!

Do you mind giving me the snap on part number of the 3/8 x 7/16 long box wrench that you have and maybe if you still have the 0 degree offset part number? I cannot seem to find them in the snap on website. Thank you!

Try XDHF1214 for the flat wrench XDH1214A might be the 15* one