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Old 02-24-2012, 05:27 PM   #1
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Hey guys, Im a newb. A couple years ago when I got a dirtbike, my dad suprised me and brought home an old tool box, I cleaned it up and shot it with paint. Well a week later, He brought me home a bunch of new tools. Well, they were almost all pittsburgh tools (Harbor Freight)... And don't get me wrong, they are kinda nice, but not top notch (Only broke a few things). And Im looking at some Allen tools, Craftsman, or Kobalt. I can't afford much, as I am in highschool and just bought my first truck . Really wanna get some better tools, and a new box. What do you guys suggest? Is Allen junk? Craftsman as good as it used to be? Kobalt any good? Thanks guys
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Old 02-24-2012, 05:28 PM   #2
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Allen or Craftsman should be fine if you are just working on your dirtbike. If you are a professional, then no it wouldn't be enough.
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Old 02-24-2012, 05:30 PM   #3
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Well I sold that, but it will be on my truck. Im planning on being a diesel mechanic, as I love to work on engines and always gotta tear something apart. I think Ill start piecing together Allen tools. Thanks for the feedback
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Old 02-24-2012, 05:50 PM   #4
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Well I sold that, but it will be on my truck. Im planning on being a diesel mechanic, as I love to work on engines and always gotta tear something apart. I think Ill start piecing together Allen tools. Thanks for the feedback
Well, first of all. RUN! Don't be a mechanic! Work on your own junk for fun, and your friends junk for tool money! Being a mechanic sucks in reality. You work yourself to a bad back, bad knees, and arthritis for money that isn't worth that. On top of that a lot of mechanics end up in a spot where retirement isn't a option.

I turn wrenches, my Dad turns wrenches, my grandfathers turned wrenches, and I don't work with guys under 50... I'm getting out as soon as I find something else... I should have listened. Now as I write this my feet hurt, my knees are stiff, and my back is sore. I also have some lovely red scrapes on my arm from a intake...


Now, enough of me being a negative nancy. Yes, most of Allen stuff is import these days, and Craftsman is going that way. It is honestly to the point that you have three options. Tool truck, learning the tricks of finding USA stuff here, or accept imports. This site, and another that I'll PM to you has a lot of good places to hunt for tools, and tips on what to look for.

You won't always be able to find what you want new, and it won't always be USA. Euro tools, and Japanese tools are great choices as well. Plus Canada, and some Mexico stuff!

This is a good place to start.
http://store.harryepstein.com/

Also check out Cripe Distributing. Look for USA in the title of the item. Although that isn't always correct, it normally is...

It's all about learning what is out there.
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Old 02-24-2012, 05:57 PM   #5
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New Allen is imported junk.
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Old 02-24-2012, 06:25 PM   #6
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Well, first of all. RUN! Don't be a mechanic! Work on your own junk for fun, and your friends junk for tool money! Being a mechanic sucks in reality. You work yourself to a bad back, bad knees, and arthritis for money that isn't worth that. On top of that a lot of mechanics end up in a spot where retirement isn't a option.

I turn wrenches, my Dad turns wrenches, my grandfathers turned wrenches, and I don't work with guys under 50... I'm getting out as soon as I find something else... I should have listened. Now as I write this my feet hurt, my knees are stiff, and my back is sore. I also have some lovely red scrapes on my arm from a intake...


Now, enough of me being a negative nancy. Yes, most of Allen stuff is import these days, and Craftsman is going that way. It is honestly to the point that you have three options. Tool truck, learning the tricks of finding USA stuff here, or accept imports. This site, and another that I'll PM to you has a lot of good places to hunt for tools, and tips on what to look for.

You won't always be able to find what you want new, and it won't always be USA. Euro tools, and Japanese tools are great choices as well. Plus Canada, and some Mexico stuff!

This is a good place to start.
http://store.harryepstein.com/

Also check out Cripe Distributing. Look for USA in the title of the item. Although that isn't always correct, it normally is...

It's all about learning what is out there.
You are evil, he will spend all his money here and not buy everything he wants!
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:09 PM   #7
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Well, first of all. RUN! Don't be a mechanic! Work on your own junk for fun, and your friends junk for tool money! Being a mechanic sucks in reality. You work yourself to a bad back, bad knees, and arthritis for money that isn't worth that. On top of that a lot of mechanics end up in a spot where retirement isn't a option.

I turn wrenches, my Dad turns wrenches, my grandfathers turned wrenches, and I don't work with guys under 50... I'm getting out as soon as I find something else... I should have listened. Now as I write this my feet hurt, my knees are stiff, and my back is sore. I also have some lovely red scrapes on my arm from a intake...


Now, enough of me being a negative nancy. Yes, most of Allen stuff is import these days, and Craftsman is going that way. It is honestly to the point that you have three options. Tool truck, learning the tricks of finding USA stuff here, or accept imports. This site, and another that I'll PM to you has a lot of good places to hunt for tools, and tips on what to look for.

You won't always be able to find what you want new, and it won't always be USA. Euro tools, and Japanese tools are great choices as well. Plus Canada, and some Mexico stuff!

This is a good place to start.
http://store.harryepstein.com/

Also check out Cripe Distributing. Look for USA in the title of the item. Although that isn't always correct, it normally is...

It's all about learning what is out there.
I made 42000 net my first year turning wrenches. It will kill your body though.

Be the best, stay hungry never be satisfied. Learn to work on everything. The money follows.

Don't waste your time and money buying allen and craftsman junk. Hit up pawn shops and craigslist maybe find a old mechanic retiring take out a loan and buy his $50,000 worth of snap on for $8000. Just go with snap on chrome and research everything you buy. You cant be the best without the best equipment.
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I made 42000 net my first year turning wrenches. It will kill your body though.

Be the best, stay hungry never be satisfied. Learn to work on everything. The money follows.

Don't waste your time and money buying allen and craftsman junk. Hit up pawn shops and craigslist maybe find a old mechanic retiring take out a loan and buy his $50,000 worth of snap on for $8000. Just go with snap on chrome and research everything you buy. You cant be the best without the best equipment.
Never said dollar numbers. My Dad was making 70k a year doing fleet work at one point (Pretty easy stuff, a lot of CNG). Hard to enjoy money when the doctor says you should be in a wheel chair.
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Never said dollar numbers. My Dad was making 70k a year doing fleet work at one point (Pretty easy stuff, a lot of CNG). Hard to enjoy money when the doctor says you should be in a wheel chair.
This is not a trade you can work in until your old age but there are a lot of supervisory positions available where you still get to wrench on things if you feel like it. A position as a shop foreman at a large construction company is where its at imo or running your own shop.
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Old 02-24-2012, 05:36 PM   #10
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Is Allen Tiawanese?
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Old 02-24-2012, 06:34 PM   #11
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If I buy allen tools that say USA is it true or just a gimmic. And Im set on a diesel mech. I love to work on things, its good pay and, its just what I like to do. As for the bad joints and what not, Thats life.
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Yeah but its new old stock.
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If I buy allen tools that say USA is it true or just a gimmic. And Im set on a diesel mech. I love to work on things, its good pay and, its just what I like to do. As for the bad joints and what not, Thats life.
If you stay healthy it and take care of yourself it isn't that hard on yourself.

There is money in it. Get good then get on with a large contractor or work as a mechanic in the oil fields. $40+ hourly jobs with as many hours as you can handle jobs are out there.
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If it says USA, it most likely is...

I'll make sure to tell my boss, and co worker that all the metal in their backs is "Just Life." Haha.
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Old 02-24-2012, 06:38 PM   #15
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Well, Not having it that bad
He made it sound as if you have stiff knees at night and a sore back, not actually having that. That is not life.
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:03 PM   #16
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I would recomend buying a big Craftsman set with sockets, ratchets, extensions, and wrenches. Upgrade to tool truck stuff gradually if you decide to go pro. That's what I did. I still use Craftsman sockets and combo wrenches. I have upgraded my ratchets, screwdrivers, extensions, bit sockets, and various other stuff to Snap-On. But a guy can do that gradually.
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:36 PM   #17
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Give some thought to your tool hoarding. I'm pleased to recently discover Sears breaks wrench sets into small and large, with the split happening at about 3/4" or 19mm. If you're buying a jumbo all-in-one kit now, the super-jumbo one later will have lots of redundancy.

I think kobalt is pretty okay. Stay away from "task force" of course, it's as bad as or worse than HF. If you wander through depot/lowes/sears you might find leftover stuff still. Then watch for leftover father's day stuff. Black Friday is not spectacular any more; I saw plenty of BF deals online at the same price later that Xmas season.

Might be good to be well rounded so you're never hungry for work. Front end, suspension, brake, electrical. Get a clunker and follow its needs!

Try flipping stuff... cars and trucks, dirt bikes, outdoor power equipment, trash finds etc to raise cash for more tool purchases. It snowballs!
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Hi and welcome to the GJ.

Young Grasshopper:
Rule #1 Never Grow old (see post #5).
Rule #2 Always go to the bathroom before you change any car oil. see Rule #1.
Rule #3 Always ask lots of questions.
Rule #4 follow Craigslist for used tool deals.
Rule #5 Allen tools are very nice make sure they say made in the USA.
Rule #6 Make sure your future wife likes tools.
Rule #7 Eat lots of vegetables and drink lots of water.
rule # 8 if you forget see rule #1.

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im n our shoes. im 17 and broke. i admit it i use stanley, husky, craftsman, hf, etc.. they work for me. if i had the noeny for snap heck yea id go with it but for what i do the cheap stuff works....for now
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im n our shoes. im 17 and broke. i admit it i use stanley, husky, craftsman, hf, etc.. they work for me. if i had the noeny for snap heck yea id go with it but for what i do the cheap stuff works....for now
Thats exactly it, I want the best, but can only afford the rest. Ill probably buy Allen USA. Keep it as a home set for my life and buy snap on as a better set.
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