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Old 11-09-2007, 04:23 PM   #1
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Default MAC Tools - Made in USA?



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I haven't been on a MAC truck in about a year, but from what I am seeing on Ebay, most of their stuff looks like it is made in Tawain/China. The only thing I see made in USA is their wrenches.


I know they are owned by Stanley, but have they just become an importer/re-badger company?

What MAC stuff is still made in the USA?

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Old 11-09-2007, 04:44 PM   #2
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Default Re: MAC Tools - Made in USA?

Just replaced a couple of 1/4" drive swivel chrome sockets -- they're made in the USA

Didn't see any MAC labeled Taiwan/China sockets on the truck either.
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:25 PM   #3
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The ratchet is made in the USA...It is the same as the proto big dawg.
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:04 PM   #4
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The ratchet is made in the USA...It is the same as the proto big dawg.
You may be correct about that ratchet,

However I don't trust MAC!


http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2006/06/stanley.shtm

They got busted lying about this one! (Their Zero Degree Ratchet)



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Old 11-09-2007, 07:22 PM   #5
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You may be correct about that ratchet,

However I don't trust MAC!


http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2006/06/stanley.shtm

They got busted lying about this one! (Their Zero Degree Ratchet)



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Interesting. I have that ratchet (the only MAC tool I own). I got it cheap, and have never used it, but I noticed the quality of the castings was not nearly as nice as snap on or matco, and at the price, I was surprised. Now I know why.
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:34 PM   #6
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i had impact sockets as deep impact socket (1/2dr both metric and sae), impact swivel set as shallow and deep swivel sockets. all are usa made... i was noticed my mac tool guy starting to sell imported tools like torx and else as it is chrome not like OTC bulletproof that i am love it.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:03 PM   #7
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You may be correct about that ratchet,

However I don't trust MAC!


http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2006/06/stanley.shtm

They got busted lying about this one! (Their Zero Degree Ratchet)



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Yes that one is jap crap for sure.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:46 PM   #8
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I'd be careful of any Mac tool pliers that are on e-bay. I bought about 4 different pliers and the quality was absolutely horrible. That's not to say they aren't knock offs or perhaps seconds. They work as intended, but christ, they looked absolutely terrible. If I get a chance I'll post up some pictures. Sucks, as I have always liked Mac tools. Plus I'm still waiting for a rebuild kit for my 1/4" ratchet, it's been two weeks now.
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Old 11-10-2007, 12:12 AM   #9
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I'd be careful of any Mac tool pliers that are on e-bay. I bought about 4 different pliers and the quality was absolutely horrible. That's not to say they aren't knock offs or perhaps seconds. They work as intended, but christ, they looked absolutely terrible. If I get a chance I'll post up some pictures. Sucks, as I have always liked Mac tools. Plus I'm still waiting for a rebuild kit for my 1/4" ratchet, it's been two weeks now.
i have long needle pliers and have no problems with it because it is working. i was noticed that mac tools have problems with quality of tools Not the ratchets, wrenches, sockets...
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That is what happen's when a Bean counting corporation like Stanley buy's out a company. They will squeeze all of the profit out of Mac then sell them.
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:37 AM   #11
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This is one reason why I don't buy MAC tools. There is nothing that they make that Snap On or Matco (or hell, even Craftsman) can't do better.
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:22 AM   #12
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I assume that all Stanley/MAC/PROTO/Blackhawk/etc. production has moved overseas or will shortly do so.

They have been blowing out huge lots of US-made tools (such as those ratchets that are all over ebay) and I see no reason for it unless they are retooling the entire line.

These days, that only means one thing...
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:31 AM   #13
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These days, that only means one thing...
Yup.... shop elsewhere...
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:37 AM   #14
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I'd be careful of any Mac tool pliers that are on e-bay. I bought about 4 different pliers and the quality was absolutely horrible. That's not to say they aren't knock offs or perhaps seconds. They work as intended, but christ, they looked absolutely terrible. If I get a chance I'll post up some pictures. Sucks, as I have always liked Mac tools. Plus I'm still waiting for a rebuild kit for my 1/4" ratchet, it's been two weeks now.
Pliers are a funny area I think. All the ones I've looked at personally and in pics seem about the same with one exception My guess is that you might as well buy a pile of Channellocks/Craftsman/Big 3/whatever or buy the more expensive Knipex ones for about 2x as much. It's definitely an area where I can't see upgrading from Craftsman to Snap On as I doubt it makes a lick of difference...the Knipex one's definitely appear better, but lacking a pair on hand it's hard to say.
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:40 AM   #15
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This is one reason why I don't buy MAC tools. There is nothing that they make that Snap On or Matco (or hell, even Craftsman) can't do better.

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I 100% agree with you. I have said:

"I want this MATCO set of Swivel Impacts"

"I want this set of Snap on Pistol Grip Pliers"

"I want this set of Craftsman Flip Sockets"

I have never found anything from MAC that had an advantage and/or was absolutely necessary to get the job done.

As a matter of fact the only two MAC tools I own are a broken Dead blow hammer (Can't find the MAC guy in my town) and the Butterfly sockets (Which are the EXACT same type sold as Snap on) - Interestingly enough they are made in Taiwan. Ugg- I feel dirty admitting that..

JMHO

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Old 11-10-2007, 10:52 AM   #16
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Check these out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mac-T...spagenameZWDVW

If I want Lisle tools, I'll go to sears!
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i was starting to decreasing buy from mac tools because many tools are imported and quality seem not better than sears's...
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Pliers are a funny area I think. All the ones I've looked at personally and in pics seem about the same with one exception My guess is that you might as well buy a pile of Channellocks/Craftsman/Big 3/whatever or buy the more expensive Knipex ones for about 2x as much. It's definitely an area where I can't see upgrading from Craftsman to Snap On as I doubt it makes a lick of difference...the Knipex one's definitely appear better, but lacking a pair on hand it's hard to say.

It's funny that you mention that. I finally got my garage rebuilt (it was in a fight with a giant hackberry) and started digging though my tools. I have three pairs of pliers that have been around since I was little and now are mine. I never paid much attention to them, but one is a pair of Knipex pliers (which still to this day are called the "red handle pliers" even though just about all my pliers have red handles) that has done everything from car repair, to working on the kitchen sink and survived being left outside for months at a time by neglectful kids. The other is a pair of Snap-on side cut pliers. You can just barely make out the name on them, but they, too, have been around for as long as I can remember. And the last is a pair of old Klein needle nose pliers. I found them not too long ago in an old tackle box. One of the few needle nose pliers that I've had that are still even on the end, even after a lot of abuse. Long post short...I've been buying a pair of Channelock pliers each time I go to a store that carries them.
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:54 PM   #19
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The Knipex that look to be worth a premium (to me) are those uber-ergo models like on the cover of the catalog.

http://chadstoolbox.com/downloads/knipexcatalog.gif

They sure look purty, don't know if it's a superior product as a result. It isn't like a lifetime supply of pliers amounts to a lot of money for 99% of people.
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The five star torx plus tampers were made by Progressive Chun Yip Co.,Tianjin China.
The only place you will find China is on the cardboard wrapper in very small print.
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