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Old 02-24-2008, 12:06 AM   #1
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Default how to tell the age of a craftsman tool

as you guys know, there is a chart to refrence the symbols on the Snap On tools so you can tell the year it was made.
on the craftsman hand tools I have seen that many have letters like V or VV or VA that have nothing to do with the part number. do these relate to age? who made them for Cman? other?

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Old 02-24-2008, 12:16 AM   #2
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Older Cman will be stamped with a "T" (made in Tiwan)
Newer, with a "C", = China.....

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the v, vv, etc designates manufacturer. that will give you approximate dates but not years of manufacture.
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Older Cman will be stamped with a "T" (made in Tiwan)
Newer, with a "C", = China.....

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I assume you are talking about power tools. Mechanics tools are still made in USA
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Default Re: how to tell the age of a craftsman tool

I think some if not most of there hand are now being outsourced, I needed a couple of extra C-Clamps for a project so I decided to pick them up at Sears.

When I got home and ripped the paper tags off, guess what Made In China, Craftsman on one side, China on the other

My older ones have the USA stamping
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I assume you are talking about power tools. MOST mechanics tools are still made in USA
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the v, vv, etc designates manufacturer. that will give you approximate dates but not years of manufacture.
This is what I've found as well.

I noticed that the EE series has a slightly different color to its finish and have read that it was made by Easco. I would put them around 1990ish.

I bought a set back in the mid 90's that is G series. After that it was G1 and G2 I beieve.
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Old 02-24-2008, 11:27 AM   #9
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There is some research out there on this. Sears obtained their Craftsman tools from many sources over the years. Moore Drop forge in Springfield, MA was the main supplier, but many of the wrenches and sockets were subcontracted out to others as well. Here are the ones I know of, I will try and keep them in order, but this is not an exact science. Some of this comes from relatives who worked at both Moore, and Chapman valve forge.

BE and H - New Britain tool
V and VV - Moore Drop forge
P - Wilde, these seem intermixed in the V era
E- Easco era I think there was an EE as well.
G, G1, G2 unsure, but told it's a plant in NC (modern era up to the laser etched ones)

The newer Danaher wrenches also include the model number on them, the older ones did not.

They sub-contracted the tools out and those places were often bought out or merged with other companies as well. That is part of the confusion.

You can clearly see the 80s Easco, Napa, Mater Mechanic (old USA version) and Craftsman wrenches are almost identical, except for the shape of the panel. I am not sure if Danaher had Moore Drop doing these or a different plant. Moore Drop forge closed down several years ago. It had long merged with Easco by then, but moved production out of MA. Not sure where it went?

Hopefully others can add more info.
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i'm pretty sure when the moore drop forge plant closed most of the craftsman production moved to gastonia ( the g marking) but some of the production may be done at on of the 3 plants danaher owns in arkansas. there was a cable tv special about danahers producion of tools a couple of years ago iirc it was on "made in america with john ratzenberger".
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