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Old 12-31-2008, 11:48 AM   #21
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Yes sir this is made in the USA at our Elizabethton TN plant. Don't know why it is not marked USA but all Snap-On ratchets are USA made .

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I don't know if I would be satisfied with that response - specifically "don't know why it is not marked USA"
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Old 12-31-2008, 12:05 PM   #22
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Very much so!!!!!!
For what it's worth, I've heard something on this from an eBay seller. I purchased a new, 'USA' marked F80 from a guy and asked him how he got one with the USA stamp on it, since they no longer make them this way.

The guy told me his son worked in one of the SO plants and that he was selling it for him. He said that according to his son, they received new equipment (moulds I think he called it) for making the ratchet bodies and that the new ones did not have a USA stamp on it, deliberately. He also said that according to his son, this was done so that if/when parts of the manufacturing operation are moved to Mexico or wherever else, they can use the same equipment without having to create new versions without the USA stamp, which would be costly, apparently.

The last thing he told me was that his according to his son, there were new moulds coming for the wrenches in the near future and he feared they wouldn't have a USA stamp either. Has anyone seen any new wrenches yet w/o the USA stamp? I really hope that doesn't happen.

Again, this is second hand from an eBay seller, so take it with a grain of salt, but that's what I've heard. Just wanted to pass it along since it seemed relevant in this thread. Personally I think it's one of the more plausible explanations I've seen, but that's just me. YMMV.
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Old 12-31-2008, 12:22 PM   #23
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I guess if I wanted to buy something made in japan, I would rather not pay made in USA prices, hahaha. Not that I am complaining about the quality, just the price.
my thoughts exactly, I dont have any problem with foreign tools, but I dont want it to carry a made in USA price
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Old 12-31-2008, 03:11 PM   #24
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[QUOTE=gatewaysysop;357749]For what it's worth, I've heard something on
The last thing he told me was that his according to his son, there were new moulds coming for the wrenches in the near future and he feared they wouldn't have a USA stamp either. Has anyone seen any new wrenches yet w/o the USA stamp? I really hope that doesn't happen.


Yes its true, i have a set of sae wrenches open end/ratcheting box end with no USA stamp

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....da&dir=catalog

so your fears have come true.

regarding the SO response, i guess it was sent on to a SO rep in canada, and he will get back to me regarding the reasoning(of not having a USA stamp), stay tuned!!

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Old 12-31-2008, 04:11 PM   #25
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Yes its true, i have a set of sae wrenches open end/ratcheting box end with no USA stamp

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....da&dir=catalog

I don't think that's the same. Those ratcheting wrenches are known to be imported, Taiwan probably. Same as the Blue Point ratcheting wrenches.

Snap on claims that the ratchet in question is made here, yet it has no country of origin stamp.

I think the problem would be if the non-ratcheting wrenches had no origin stamp.
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Old 12-31-2008, 04:47 PM   #26
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Yes sir this is made in the USA at our Elizabethton TN plant. Don't know why it is not marked USA but all Snap-On ratchets are USA made .

CrystalLakeOrderEntrySC@snapon.com
Thats absolutely correct the body is forged, finished and chromed in Elizabethton then the parts are all assembled and the finished product is shipped from there, but this source assures me that the gear and pawls are not made in Elizabethton TN.
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Old 12-31-2008, 06:18 PM   #27
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For what it's worth, I've heard something on
The last thing he told me was that his according to his son, there were new moulds coming for the wrenches in the near future and he feared they wouldn't have a USA stamp either. Has anyone seen any new wrenches yet w/o the USA stamp? I really hope that doesn't happen.


Yes its true, i have a set of sae wrenches open end/ratcheting box end with no USA stamp

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....da&dir=catalog

so your fears have come true.

regarding the SO response, i guess it was sent on to a SO rep in canada, and he will get back to me regarding the reasoning(of not having a USA stamp), stay tuned!!

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Well, FWIW, I was actually asking about regular non-ratcheting wrenches, as I believe the eBay seller was speaking about. Has anyone seen any of *those* without the USA stamp?
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Old 12-31-2008, 07:01 PM   #28
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Well, FWIW, I was actually asking about regular non-ratcheting wrenches, as I believe the eBay seller was speaking about. Has anyone seen any of *those* without the USA stamp?
Hmm maybe something that has a later 08 production date but my flank drive plus wrenches which are dated 08 have USA stamped on them...
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Old 12-31-2008, 08:10 PM   #29
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Well if we could get someone to order a rebuild kit for a F80 I think that would solve the mystery!! The bag would have to be marked with where it is made!!
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Old 12-31-2008, 10:27 PM   #30
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Well if we could get someone to order a rebuild kit for a F80 I think that would solve the mystery!! The bag would have to be marked with where it is made!!
hey, that's not a bad idea

what typically comes in a repair kit? Is the gear itself included?

We could just ask pedro_snapon if the repair kit bag has any clues...

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Old 12-31-2008, 10:46 PM   #31
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What typically comes in a repair kit? Is the gear itself included?
The gear is included along with a pawl, a washer, a reverse lever, a spring, a steel ball, seals, screws, lube, and sometimes even a new cover plate depending on the model.
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Old 12-31-2008, 10:57 PM   #32
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If you bring up an F80 on the snap on website, it lists USA as the country of origin. No country of origin is listed for the repair kit.

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....re&dir=catalog
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Old 01-01-2009, 01:47 AM   #33
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If you bring up an F80 on the snap on website, it lists USA as the country of origin. No country of origin is listed for the repair kit.

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....re&dir=catalog
I'm not sure how accurate the item descriptions are on the website. For example I searched for the F872 ratchet and the repair kit RKRF872B but neither one lists country of origin. And, of course, all those ebay sellers with older ratchets claiming they are dual 80 based on snapon.com info.
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Old 01-01-2009, 01:49 AM   #34
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The gear is included along with a pawl, a washer, a reverse lever, a spring, a steel ball, seals, screws, lube, and sometimes even a new cover plate depending on the model.
it sounds like they give you everything except the body. I'm really tempted to order a repair kit...$10.83 with tax
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If the parts turn out to be made in Japan, that won't bother me at all; if they were made in Taiwan or China, then I'd have a problem.

The japanese folks care about quality; look at Mitutoyo.
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I just check the snap on site..
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....tore&tool=all\
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:13 AM   #38
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Holy crap. I'm from China. I know there might be a small amount of people there do not like Americans (because of something related to arrogance, prejudice, or the war in Iraq ), but they ALL believe "Made in USA" means top-notch quality.

I can tell you, they even think American cars are made with the best quality



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Snap-on is claiming that since they are a global brand that reaches many markets they no longer want to advertise the country of manufacture on the tools (I guess Americans have a negative image to the rest of the world or something like that). I think they are just trying to deceptively ease the transition towards off shore manufacturing with out the average consumer realizing it.
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Is the F80 on sale? Its coming up about $8 off! Go figure!
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They need to get you used to not seeing the USA on their tools, so it won't make as large an uproar when its all coming in from Taiwan.
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