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Old 05-21-2014, 01:23 AM   #41
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Cool build thread, it is so interesting to see how things are done in other countries. You are making great progress, keep up the good work.
Ditto! Thanks for sharing your project.
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Old 05-21-2014, 01:55 AM   #42
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Nice project(s) in a lovely city! And close to CPZ

I'm not surprised that nothing is straight or level. Having done some work in my grandma's house form around the 1900's (in Weesp) I know what you're going through, LOL.
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Great work, I love making old new again
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Old 05-22-2014, 07:03 AM   #44
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Cool build! I cant wait to see it progress.
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Old 05-22-2014, 01:25 PM   #45
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This brings back a lot of memories, itches, aches and pains..
A couple of years ago I restored a similar townhouse for a friend of mine. Those houses are anything but plumb and straight but than again they are over 100 years old.

Good luck with the rest of the work

PS. be sure to keep an eye out for lead piping in the house. This was common for a long time in The Netherlands.
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Old 05-23-2014, 01:45 AM   #46
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you need a plasterboard prop!

I did my own boarding in my 1902 house with one, much easier.



and great work, love a house with character
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Old 10-14-2014, 06:20 AM   #47
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OK, so I'm back.

I've had a lot of real work the past few months which meant the house work got put on the back burner. I was also getting a bit burnt out if I'm honest. I was working on the house for up to 8 hours a day, and then had to do real work as well. I work for a US company, from home, so it means I normally work in the evenings. After 6 months of this, I was burnt out.

But I'm fresh again now and getting back into it.

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Thanks, I have been. Already replaced one. Super heavy stuff. Got quite a chuck of cash for it..

First challenge was to finish the main hallway. Both my wife and I were getting a bit sick of it, as the stairs have been in a half finished state for about 4 months. I don't have a picture of how it was, but you can see part of it here:



There was carpet before, and then paint under neath that. It was a horrible job removing the glue/varnish paint. It literally took days. And getting into all the corners was a nightmare. We eventually got it done though, and gave it a few coats of white paint.

Then was time for the hallway floor. The previous owners must of had cats as the corners were pretty nasty. The smell was terrible when we lifted the old plastic floor tiles. I ended up ripping out some of the plaster around the floor and redoing it. I also put primer down on the floor to try and stop the smell. It seems to have worked.

First row of tiles:



And the finished job:





I'm fairly pleased with how it turned out. This is only my 2nd attempt at tiling, and it was a lot easier than before. I think it was because the floor was already perfectly flat. Or maybe small tiles.

Yesterday I started working on the garage wall again. It is a lot of work to strip the plaster, but I think it'll be worth it. A few bricks actually completed came out, so I will have to replace them. I'm unsure whether or not I will re-point the wall. I kind of like it how it is. But maybe I should anyway.



This is a picture of about 1/3 of the wall. As you can see I've got the bulk of the plaster off. Once the entire wall is cleared of plaster, I will have to go over it again and clean it up. Perhaps with a wire brush. I will have to experiment.

I've also struggled to find a suitable sealer here in Netherlands. Everywhere I look there is solutions in the UK and US, but nothing I can find here. Dutch people appear to just leave it as it is, which is a huge nono for me as it is super dusty. People are recommending PVA, but even that is a challenge to find here (especially with limited Dutch skills ) - perhaps someone on here would be kind enough to help.
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Old 10-14-2014, 06:51 AM   #48
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I would hose the brickwork down, scrub it (with hydrochloric acid solution if needed) and thoroughly rinse again. I wouldn't seal it, but I'm Dutch. Not sure about pointing, if it looks good I would leave it as it is as I can't think of any technical arguments for doing it.

Nice project by the way.
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Old 10-14-2014, 07:12 AM   #49
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great project you have there cant wait to see it all finished are you going to install a 2 post ramp in there to work on your car looks like you have a good space for it
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Old 10-14-2014, 09:42 AM   #50
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I would hose the brickwork down, scrub it (with hydrochloric acid solution if needed) and thoroughly rinse again. I wouldn't seal it, but I'm Dutch. Not sure about pointing, if it looks good I would leave it as it is as I can't think of any technical arguments for doing it.
Thanks! I'll see how I feel once the entire thing is done and cleaned.

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great project you have there cant wait to see it all finished are you going to install a 2 post ramp in there to work on your car looks like you have a good space for it
I'd love to at some point, but I wouldn't want to ruin the floor. I'll see when the time comes. Until then, the car doesn't get much love, other than a monthly track day. Then back to the garage..

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Old 10-14-2014, 04:25 PM   #51
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Very cool reno, great to see builds on GJ from other countries, like they say, I love what you are doing to the place. Have Fun.

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Old 10-14-2014, 04:36 PM   #52
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This is a picture of about 1/3 of the wall. As you can see I've got the bulk of the plaster off. Once the entire wall is cleared of plaster, I will have to go over it again and clean it up. Perhaps with a wire brush. I will have to experiment.

I've also struggled to find a suitable sealer here in Netherlands. Everywhere I look there is solutions in the UK and US, but nothing I can find here. Dutch people appear to just leave it as it is, which is a huge nono for me as it is super dusty. People are recommending PVA, but even that is a challenge to find here (especially with limited Dutch skills ) - perhaps someone on here would be kind enough to help.
I was going to suggest sand blasting the bricks after you have finished clearing the plaster. re pointing would be a good idea as well. Then maybe a concrete sealer to reduce the dust. sure adds character to the room.
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You are doing an immense amount of work.
I will be following you.
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You are doing an immense amount of work.
True that!

I've been laying hardwood floors in my foyer and kitchen. I'm doing it in stages and it's taken me almost three months!
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Old 10-14-2014, 08:09 PM   #55
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What a project!
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Old 10-14-2014, 08:21 PM   #56
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I love the character this garage/house has, such a cool space. I'll be eagerly watching for updates!
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Old 10-15-2014, 02:41 AM   #57
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Thanks for a great thread on such a fantastic home and garage. I love your project and congratulations on making great progress.
I would avoid a wire brush if possible. A strong plastic bristled brush (perhaps with a bucket of water) will help to remove plaster dust residue and perhaps some of the thinner areas of plaster left on the brick face.
With respect to one of the comments, I have to say under no circumstances should you sand blast.
For anyone else reading this, bricks are analogous to clay cakes baked in an oven. The sand media will aggressively degrade the outer hard shell of the baked clay and then expose its porous inner core to future moisture, humidity, etc. ultimately destroying the brick.
In cases (this looks like one) where you can drain your work, you may be surprised at how well pressure washing with water will clean up the wall. Using the minimal pressure necessary and/or spraying at an oblique angle will help insure you don't do more harm than good. If you go that route, be sure to allow the wall ample drying time (in days) before sealing any part of it.
Another alternative would be blasting, but using a softer media. Depending upon availability, things like crushed walnut shells (bagged and sold for media blasting) can provide a terrific result.
In terms of sealing, many of the jobs I worked on in the past had people using polyurethane cut (diluted) by water. Doing a test on a less visible section of the wall will allow you to determine if you like the sheen/gloss/whatever finish it dries to- or if you need to adjust. For application purposes, the easiest thing I've seen is a hand held pump sprayer (typically used for gardening) filled with the poly/water mix.
Good luck and keep the pics coming. Love it!

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Old 10-15-2014, 02:44 AM   #58
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Thanks for a great thread on such a fantastic home and garage. I love your project and congratulations on making great progress.
I would avoid a wire brush if possible. A strong plastic bristled brush (perhaps with a bucket of water) will help to remove plaster dust residue and perhaps some of the thinner areas of plaster left on the brick face.
With respect to one of the comments, I have to say under no circumstances should you sand blast.
For anyone else reading this, bricks are analogous to clay cakes baked in an oven. The sand media will aggressively degrade the outer hard shell of the baked clay and then expose its porous inner core to future moisture, humidity, etc. ultimately destroying the brick.
In cases (this looks like one) where you can drain your work, you may be surprised at how well pressure washing with water will clean up the wall. Using the minimal pressure necessary and/or spraying at an oblique angle will help insure you don't do more harm than good. If you go that route, be sure to allow the wall ample drying time (in days) before sealing any part of it.
Another alternative would be blasting, but using a softer media. Depending upon availability, things like crushed walnut shells (bagged and sold for media blasting) can provide a terrific result.
In terms of sealing, many of the jobs I worked on in the past had people using polyurethane cut (diluted) by water. Doing a test on a less visible section of the wall will allow you to determine if you like the sheen/gloss/whatever finish it dries to- or if you need to adjust. For application purposes, the easiest thing I've seen is a hand held pump sprayer (typically used for gardening) filled with the poly/water mix.
Good luck and keep the pics coming. Love it!

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Thanks for the advice!

But unfortunately a little too late. I started using a wire brush on an angle grinder and it appears to work well. Removes any of the plaster I missed with the SDS drill. And it doesn't appear to be damaging the brick. I'm being very gentle though.
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Thanks for the advice!

But unfortunately a little too late. I started using a wire brush on an angle grinder and it appears to work well. Removes any of the plaster I missed with the SDS drill. And it doesn't appear to be damaging the brick. I'm being very gentle though.
Gentle is the key. You don't want to scratch/scarify the surface of the brick. What about a brass wheel (brass wires) or something softer than steel wire?
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Old 10-15-2014, 05:26 AM   #60
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Here are a few snaps of the bricks. Not all of them have been cleaned yet. I will have to repoint at least some of them as a) bricks have fallen out or b) the bricks are just about to fall out.





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