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Old 06-25-2011, 08:48 AM   #1
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Default How to Scrap a Car

Not too sure what to do with my old 1994 Escort station wagon.
Kind of hate to see it go, it's been a real reliable car, but it's getting kinda soft underneath.
It is still save to drive, just needs the rockers patched up a little,
but I'm getting the 02 olds Alero I wrote about a while back.
Getting tired of patching it up every year for inspection, plus it needs the exhaust replaced.

Will scrap yards buy these if I drive it in, or do I have to remove the gas tank and have it hauled there.
Any Idea how much it might bring for scrap?
I heard scrap is doing pretty good these days, I know I could find someone to haul it away for free, but would like to sell it myself if possible.
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When I worked at a yard, cars without tires and upholstery got more money per pound. That being said you could drive it in as is and they will weigh it and pay you out. Probably a little more than $200.00.
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I'm pretty sure you can cut off the catalytic converter and get more money for that by itself. The same may be true for airbags .
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When I tow a car to the crusher I don't have to drain it or anything. As for what it's worth, I just sent a 2800lbs ranger to the crusher and got 420... including an extra 20 for the rims. Just make sure the cat is still in there, they willl check.
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When I tow a car to the crusher I don't have to drain it or anything. As for what it's worth, I just sent a 2800lbs ranger to the crusher and got 420... including an extra 20 for the rims. Just make sure the cat is still in there, they willl check.
Did you bring it to gershow or mid-island?
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Did you bring it to gershow or mid-island?
Frank's off Grand Blvd. in Westbury. From what I've heard they have the best prices.

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Frank's off Grand Blvd. in Westbury. From what I've heard they have the best prices.
Seen the place but never gone there. They need to re-pave grand over there.
I scrap all my loose stuff at arrow in wyandanch.
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Seen the place but never gone there. They need to re-pave grand over there.
I scrap all my loose stuff at arrow in wyandanch.
I might be picking up an F-150 in North Babylon today, maybe I'll try arrow if they're still open and save the tow all the way to Westbury. Thanks.
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When I scrap a car I:

* cut off the catalytic converter and recycle seperately
* rip everything off that's aluminum and recyle that seperately
* I'll even throw a set of stock metal rims on the car and take the aluminum rims in seperately
* pull the battery and take it in seperately

Now..I do all this when I have several to do at one time. You can make extra money if you seperate stuff...you're paying them to do it for you when you just drop a car off.
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Give it an honourable funeral like this Jeep Cherokee:

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Have you tried selling it outright?
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We've been scrapping a lot lately to make more room for when the fence goes up to satisfy the neighbor.

We remove the doors and store them for later sale, hoods, the same. Engines/trans go in the corner. Good patch panels are cut out and stored.

Frames are cut up into pieces that one person can handle if needed to unload by hand.

Axles are prepped for storage/sale by cutting the hubs and mounts off.

Wiring harnesses go into a bucket as we get almost a dollar a pound for the wire, even insulated. Water pumps and fan clutches get more money as well.

Radiators-BINGO! if hold water, stored, but otherwise, they're big money.

We got $224/ton last week for short iron/steel.
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If the car is still running and driving, I assume it also has title and up-to-date registration. You could sell it for more than $200. Just make sure to write a bill of sale with as-is sale, signed by both buyer and seller. Keep a copy of this and make sure the buyer understands cash only. Anyone buying a sub-$1000 car is not expecting perfect shape. You will be money and hassle ahead vs scrapping it. Some person without much money may need some cheap wheels to get to work until they can get a better car.
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Remove the gas tank too,removing the sending unit and gas out.There is one scrap yard in my area that wants this done and this is a huge must for them.
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Post it for sale on the 24 Hours of LeMons or Chump Car websites. The teams need cheap cars to turn into racers. I've seen everything from Mini Mokes to Maserati Quattroportes, so someone will bite on that.

If there are parts they can sell off of the car, they can pay more than $500. The purchase price has to work out to $500 or less, but they can sell parts off to offset the purchase price. It isn't easy to find a good car.

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I'm pretty sure you can cut off the catalytic converter and get more money for that by itself. The same may be true for airbags .
Selling and/or installing used air-bags is likely unlawful (IIRC, covered under federal law...) But a cat can bring in serious money.

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Best answer. I just (today) pocketed 1200 for a Toyota truck that was rusted out (frame/suspension) and the original owner thought would only bring in a few hundred. It was an easy sell, there is always someone who will buy them either to fix up or to salvage parts to fix another similar vehicle.
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ironic I just finished loading what was left of a gmc typhoon into a ford truck bed
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Thats looked like tons of fun, bazz.
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when we scrap and a car we also do as mentioen above sort the metals
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If there are parts they can sell off of the car, they can pay more than $500. The purchase price has to work out to $500 or less, but they can sell parts off to offset the purchase price. It isn't easy to find a good car.

http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/

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Haha. That sounds like a ton of fun, and I love their attitude: "How to go Racing. It's not just for rich idiots. It's for all idiots."
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Have you thought about donating it to the National Kidney Foundation? I had one that, for various reasons, I did not want to sell outright. They came and picked it up and sold it. After a few weeks, I received a letter so that I could deduct the sale amount from my taxes.
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Haha. That sounds like a ton of fun, and I love their attitude: "How to go Racing. It's not just for rich idiots. It's for all idiots."
Well... I guess I'm an idiot! Done a few races. It is fun, but a lot of work to get to race day. We don't have NASCAR budgets like some teams seem to (i.e., the ones with semi-trailers that have car lifts) but were doing well. We made it to 5th place in our first Chump Car race.

We were lucky to get a '91 Mustang LX for $250. It didn't run and stank awful from animals that lived in it while it was parked. She's a good pony, though. You can follow us: Team 42 The Old & The Wreckless.
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If the car is still running and driving, I assume it also has title and up-to-date registration. You could sell it for more than $200. Just make sure to write a bill of sale with as-is sale, signed by both buyer and seller. Keep a copy of this and make sure the buyer understands cash only. Anyone buying a sub-$1000 car is not expecting perfect shape. You will be money and hassle ahead vs scrapping it. Some person without much money may need some cheap wheels to get to work until they can get a better car.
Yeah, I am thinking of doing this.
Inspection runs out end of June, just depends where someone would take it how nit picky they are.
There is one guy here that just takes it for a ride and looks it over (body, tires, lights) and will pass it.
But It clearly needs an exhaust, and I don't want to put money into it.
Think I will put it on craigs list, maybe Ohio Craigslist.
Bill of sale, can that just be some hand written paper?
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Thats looked like tons of fun, bazz.
First saw a couple of years ago I think. I started watching it and thought "Bloody mad Yanks!" Then realised it's a UK market Jeep! "Bloody mad Brits!"


But yeah, looks great fun, just enough danger to keep it interesting
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I would definitely sell it as well.. It's worth more than $200. I'd start by listing it just under a thousand.. Like $950. Wait a few days, then start relisting it lowering it about $50-$100 each time until it sells.

People go nuts seeing any car for under $1000 - and it will go pretty quickly.

I sold my last daily driver beater for $950. I originally listed it for $1200, then $1100.. Not a whole lot of interest. Then I said screw it, I'll put it under $1000 at $950obo and it'll be gone in a day. About an hour later I sold it. No haggling at all on the price.

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My experiences working in the scrap yard:

6" hole "must" be placed in empty gas tank. This was obviously not done as I watched cars drive up to the shredder. I also have had several explode. Creates an amazing 40ft fireball.

We paid 1 rate for any mixed metals. A lesser rate for iron. $8-11/100 depending on economy.

We don't waste time with cats. You can, they are easy enough.

Don't waste time with aluminum engine parts, unless they are pure, we won't pay more. You lose in labor trying to remove valve seats from cylinder heads...

Don't spend too much time trying to remove wires. If it is easy, go for it. Don't dig carpet to get 2lbs of wire though...

Hood switch had to be removed, and battery.

No radioactive waste.

Radioactive waste, hood switches, and batteries were the only things enforced.

No wheels? No problem. The crane, fork lift or front end loader will take care of you.

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Mercury switches. like the ones for airbags need to be removed by the scrap processor
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Wondering the same. maybe so you couldnt hide random garbage in the engine bay, or replace the motor with a rock. get paid and leave before they find out? idk i'd like to know also
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Well Put it in Craigslist last night with Phone #
So far only 1 e mail,
Must be poor attempt at spam.
Said From; Ellen
She just writes.
hello,price is fixed for the vehicle. Thx.
what ever the hell that's supposed to mean.
Here is the CL Ad.

http://zanesville.craigslist.org/cto/2464732934.html

I'm think I might need this thing gone before the end of the month.
I am not sure, but I think If I transfer the "New" car to my name before July 1st, and I still Own the Old car on July 1st, The county will hit me on my personal property tax for both cars.
So I hope someone buys it FAST.
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Well Put it in Craigslist last night with Phone #
So far only 1 e mail,
Must be poor attempt at spam.
Said From; Ellen
She just writes.
hello,price is fixed for the vehicle. Thx.
what ever the hell that's supposed to mean.
Here is the CL Ad.

http://zanesville.craigslist.org/cto/2464732934.html

I'm think I might need this thing gone before the end of the month.
I am not sure, but I think If I transfer the "New" car to my name before July 1st, and I still Own the Old car on July 1st, The county will hit me on my personal property tax for both cars.
So I hope someone buys it FAST.
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Respond and say "Still have this vehicle, price is negotiable".


She's asking if you are firm on the price.
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I wouldn't go through the effort of dismantling the car, I'd sell or donate it. I used to part cars for parts I needed, but it's a lot of work if you don't have time & space. Besides, the scrapper may charge you to take what's left of it if you've dismantled it & didn't leave enough scrap weight to make it worthwhile for him to take it. Selling it may also find someone who made need it as a parts car for one that they have.
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Respond and say "Still have this vehicle, price is negotiable".


She's asking if you are firm on the price.
To me it sounds like spam from the vaguery of it, and the broken english.
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Probably farming emails. You reply back to something that vague they then have a confirmed email and will sell it everywhere.
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Well Put it in Craigslist last night with Phone #
So far only 1 e mail,
Must be poor attempt at spam.
Said From; Ellen
She just writes.
hello,price is fixed for the vehicle. Thx.
what ever the hell that's supposed to mean.
Here is the CL Ad.

http://zanesville.craigslist.org/cto/2464732934.html

I'm think I might need this thing gone before the end of the month.
I am not sure, but I think If I transfer the "New" car to my name before July 1st, and I still Own the Old car on July 1st, The county will hit me on my personal property tax for both cars.
So I hope someone buys it FAST.
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Better pictures showing all sides and clean the junk out of it will help. Run it through a auto car wash to clean the outside. Otherwise I think there has to be someone that wants a decent running car for $600.

As-is so the buyer is responsible for any inspections. Bill of sale can be hand writtten on paper.
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Respond and say "Still have this vehicle, price is negotiable".


She's asking if you are firm on the price.
Naw, if "there" intrested they can call.
I think it's a program or a person just trying to get a good e mail so thay can send more crap to me.
either that, or next it will be,
What is your "last price" My courier will pick up the item.......................
You will cash $3,000 cashiers check, keep $600.00, & another $500.00 for your trouble,.............................
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WOW....

What jumps out at me are two things. The ad says "Needs a little body work" and the photo doesn't show the front end.

So, I assume the front end is completely destroyed.

Your photo is losing you the sale.

Run it through the $5 car wash and take a couple photos that show the entire car. $600 is cheap for a runner.
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I've seen way worse driving the roads up here, that's a 1500 car in michigan
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Old 06-27-2011, 01:55 PM   #39
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I just looked at the photo of your Escort & wanted to add that I had sold a small Nissan truck for $500 in much worse shape several years ago. I told the guy who bought it what was wrong & he said he didn't care, he planned on doing the needed repairs. I wrote a bill of sale up that said "As Is Condition" for it. It needed bed & frame rust repaired, as well as replacing the brake & fuel lines that rotted with the frame rails. Just clean things out of it & get a few more photos you can post & email to buyers.
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Old 06-27-2011, 03:49 PM   #40
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Ran through the Car wash and added photos, Did edit the title to include "Pictures Added", but it is not showing up in the listing, but does show up in the Ad.
Wonder if I can delete the Ad and re do it, but I think I tried that one time and it called me on it.
Made me wait 48 hours or something.

http://zanesville.craigslist.org/cto/2464732934.html

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Ran through the Car wash and added photos, Did edit the title to include "Pictures Added", but it is not showing up in the listing, but does show up in the Ad.
Wonder if I can delete the Ad and re do it, but I think I tried that one time and it called me on it.
Made me wait 48 hours or something.

http://zanesville.craigslist.org/cto/2464732934.html

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It let me bump it, I reworded it a little
http://zanesville.craigslist.org/cto/
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Old 06-27-2011, 06:53 PM   #42
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Got someone coming out tomorrow, had another guy call, said He might stop by to look at it, he was close, but didn't hear back.
The ones coming out tomorrow sounds like there a few hours away,
Would like to try and let them at least look at it .

They are coming from Ohio, does anyone from Ohio know how I have to transfer the title?
I hate to just sign the title, I don't know if that's legal in Ohio or WV,
They thought maybe if the Title was notarized, it would be Legal.
Or do we Both have to go to the DMV.
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Mercury switches. like the ones for airbags need to be removed by the scrap processor

Simple as that. A lot of "tilt" switches used to be made of mercury. Not sure if they still are.

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Got someone coming out tomorrow, had another guy call, said He might stop by to look at it, he was close, but didn't hear back.
The ones coming out tomorrow sounds like there a few hours away,
Would like to try and let them at least look at it .

They are coming from Ohio, does anyone from Ohio know how I have to transfer the title?
I hate to just sign the title, I don't know if that's legal in Ohio or WV,
They thought maybe if the Title was notarized, it would be Legal.
Or do we Both have to go to the DMV.
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Here is something else I just found the Title, and I have moved a few times since the title was transferred to me.
I did my change of address to my driver's license, and my registration card, but never thought about the title.
I wonder if/Hope this won't be a problem transferring the title.
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Here is something else I just found the Title, and I have moved a few times since the title was transferred to me.
I did my change of address to my driver's license, and my registration card, but never thought about the title.
I wonder if/Hope this won't be a problem transferring the title.
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Address does not matter, still has your name on it and VIN for the car. As long as your state does not require notarized signature, then all you need to do is sign the title to release the vehicle and give them keys after cash in your hand. If you need notarized signature, just one more step to get that done.

If the buyer is form out of state, they will probably need to get a VIN inspection. Just a verification the VIN matches the title. They may need an emissions inspection depending on the local requirements in their area. That is why you have bill of sale that states as-is, once they buy it then any inspections are the buyer's responsibility. Your only responsibility is to have the legal title and sign it to release ownership. Don't overthink the process and make more complicated than it should be. After all it is a $600 car
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Address does not matter, still has your name on it and VIN for the car. As long as your state does not require notarized signature, then all you need to do is sign the title to release the vehicle and give them keys after cash in your hand. If you need notarized signature, just one more step to get that done.

If the buyer is form out of state, they will probably need to get a VIN inspection. Just a verification the VIN matches the title. They may need an emissions inspection depending on the local requirements in their area. That is why you have bill of sale that states as-is, once they buy it then any inspections are the buyer's responsibility. Your only responsibility is to have the legal title and sign it to release ownership. Don't over think the process and make more complicated than it should be. After all it is a $600 car
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I just called the WV DMV, she said "Your selling it right"?
Then No, all I have to do is sign the title over.
Looks like They (WV) don't require the title to be notarized.

She said, as far as a bill of sale, if it were her, she would have it notarized, but it's not required either.
Is a bill of sale Legal if we both sigh, if not notarized?
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Is a bill of sale Legal if we both sigh, if not notarized?
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Yes, it is legal.

In my opinion, as a SELLER, I don't care if the Bill of Sale is notarized or not. He gave you money, you gave him the car, title, and BoS. Deal is done. You should, of course, keep a photocopy of the signed document including buyer's driver's license.

As a BUYER, though, I like to have the BoS notarized because it protects me from shenanigans like duplicate titles, invalid titles, unmentioned liens, etc. It's notarized proof that the owner sold the car to me.

I've only done 3 private sales, so I'm sure there are others with more experience here.
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Yes, it is legal.

In my opinion, as a SELLER, I don't care if the Bill of Sale is notarized or not. He gave you money, you gave him the car, title, and BoS. Deal is done. You should, of course, keep a photocopy of the signed document including buyer's driver's license.

As a BUYER, though, I like to have the BoS notarized because it protects me from shenanigans like duplicate titles, invalid titles, unmentioned liens, etc. It's notarized proof that the owner sold the car to me.

I've only done 3 private sales, so I'm sure there are others with more experience here.
Yes, it's a good idea to make copies for yourself, especially the bill of sale with the buyer's name. Let's say the buyer were to not title or register the car, just drive it & something were to happen like an accident. You would want it documented that you sold it to that person on whatever date & that you aren't responsible. It would be a pain in the neck to have to prove 6 months from now how you are not the owner of a car that was involved in an accident.

One last thing though, if when you first purchased the car, did you finance it?

If you did, does your title say anything about a lien? (The bank or finance company name)

If it doesn't, then there is nothing to be concerned with, but if it does say something about a lien, then you have to have a letter from the place you had a loan with that states the loan was paid off & the lien was satisfied. The buyer needs it to title & register the car.
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Well I got a blank Bill of sale, Well the Year, Make & Model & VIN is printed on it.
The Lady at My car insurance agent said she would Notarize it for me.
Guess I'll keep the original and make a copy for them.
Might be a No show though, I tried to call there Cell and Land line and didn't get an answer at either, they said 1:00 PM, it's Noon Now, So we shall see.
Still all good info to know.

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And do what? Ask them, or have them haul it out.
That might happen too..........LOL
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No financing Or liens on the car

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$600 looks like a good deal from the ad.. It would sell for that here within an hour I bet. You'd have to pull the ad from so many phone calls.
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$600 looks like a good deal from the ad.. It would sell for that here within an hour I bet. You'd have to pull the ad from so many phone calls.
Really, Yeah I wish here, I got 3 calls yesterday, the one that was supposed to come out at 1:00 PM was a No Show.
Hopefully something will happen tonight or tomorrow.
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3 calls in a day is good.. You'll sell it. Lot's of time wasters out there. Someone serious with cash will grab it within a couple days.
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Well I wussed out.......LOL
sold it to this guy in town that scraps them.
Got $200.00 for it though.
Had to make a move, didn't really have room to park them both, unless I had kept the "new" one out on the street.
Wasn't sure either about the personal property tax either, pretty sure if I still had it by July 1st, I would be paying on both of them.
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We scrapped my friend's Audi this morning:




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still looked like a pretty nice car, what was wrong with it?
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still looked like a pretty nice car, what was wrong with it?
He kept blowing steering racks on it. A little over a year ago it came in to the shop for safety inspection and failed, he paid 100 for it, fixed it and drove it since. The steering rack has been replaced twice, he killed it again and bought a new car. Got 150 from the scrappers for it.

Rack was under warranty still, i would've swapped it for him but he was done with the car. I could've had it for free but didn't want it.
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