The Beast Runs.

[HOTFR8]

Finished the wiring on the 48 ( F4 ) Truck this week and late yesterday I put in a couple of batteries, turned the key braught it to life.

Just have the engine running at the moment as I have yet to put brake fluid in. Will be hard to tear it down for panel and paint now.

[engnerdan]

That is one sweet beast, I wish I was able to take on projects that big. I struggling to find time to do basic paint prep on mine.

Congrats

Dan

[Uncle Buck]

Your efforts certainly were not wasted on that! Mighty sweet indeed.

[Jared]

What motor is in it?

[-lecroix-]

that is sooo cool.

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Jared

What motor is in it?

6BT Cummins Turbo Diesel, Ford C6 Auto with US Gear over drive. Also has LPG ( Propane ) Injection. Chassis is 1977 Ford F350 and the sleeper cabin is Peterbuilt heavily modified ( read as Shrunk ).

[PAToyota]

So, any progress on this project?

[jay50]

Man, that is some great talent you have demonstrated there. You do that work professionally for others or as a hobby?

[Jared]

Originally Posted by HOTFR8

6BT Cummins Turbo Diesel, Ford C6 Auto with US Gear over drive. Also has LPG ( Propane ) Injection. Chassis is 1977 Ford F350 and the sleeper cabin is Peterbuilt heavily modified ( read as Shrunk ).

Is the cummins stock other than the propane injection?

[HOTFR8]

I will try to answer all questions in one go.
Progressing slowly and all stripped to be painted. Will post a pic and a few links off site.
Will be a Rolling advert for the business but not all done in house ( Garage LOL ).
Motor is stock but as yet have not had time to consider toying with it apart from the LPG. Will be a show rig and a driver.

Cab came out of the paint shop Saturday 23rd August.


Here is a link to the Bonus Built Forum with a lot more photos.
http://bonusbuilt.horrortaxi.net/for...pic.php?t=1711

and if that does not work to see all the pics try these links.

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8...nting01dz6.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1...nting02ob9.jpg
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/330...pdate01xz7.jpg
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http://bonusbuilt.com/forum/files/cab2_1_8_08_171.jpg
http://bonusbuilt.com/forum/files/cab1_1_8_08_392.jpg
http://bonusbuilt.com/forum/files/cab4_1_8_08_263.jpg
http://bonusbuilt.com/forum/files/cab3_1_8_08_130.jpg
http://bonusbuilt.com/forum/files/cab_4_8_08_201.jpg
http://bonusbuilt.com/forum/files/do...4_8_08_737.jpg
http://bonusbuilt.com/forum/files/cab_11_8_08_539.jpg
http://bonusbuilt.com/forum/files/ca...3_8_08_124.jpg

[HOTFR8]

Sorry not all the Bonus Built links may work ( Appears you have to be a memember to see them ) so here are some more links.

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/7...ck1800x5wb.jpg

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/9...ck2800x2mj.jpg

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http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/663...407800xyu2.jpg

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/485...407800xsx6.jpg

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/109...407800xil6.jpg

http://www.mtalexander.net/crawl07/DSC_0487.jpg

http://www.mtalexander.net/crawl07/DSC_0489.jpg

http://www.mtalexander.net/crawl07/DSC_0490.jpg

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http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8...nting01dz6.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1...nting02ob9.jpg

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/330...pdate01xz7.jpg

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/239...pdate02gh3.jpg

A lot of work done and a lot of work still to happen.

[SpiderGearsMan]

nsra used to have a 38 chevy to tow the trailer to events , had a sleeper cab too

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by SpiderGearsMan

nsra used to have a 38 chevy to tow the trailer to events , had a sleeper cab too

I think that you are thinking of Wings as his truck tows a mobile radio studio. Cream with Flames and often has a red T bucket in the trailer come studio.

Is this it ?

[SpiderGearsMan]

that's the one
had a 502 chevy in it

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by SpiderGearsMan

that's the one
had a 502 chevy in it

Well that belongs to Wings Kallahan and not the NSRA.

This is the truck as of this afternoon (25th August ) out of the paint shop and back on the chassis.


Only took two of us about an hour to fit the cab back using the hoist to lift and place the cab.

[HOTFR8]

I also have the custom plates now.


HOTFR8

[PAToyota]

Thanks for the update! Very sweet project!

[SpiderGearsMan]

nice color
I saw the truck in chevy power catalog and it was id as nsra
I saw it at the nats too

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by SpiderGearsMan

nice color
I saw the truck in chevy power catalog and it was id as nsra
I saw it at the nats too

Thanks It is an Aussie Ford color from 1966 Called Green Velvet metalic with a little more metailic in the mix, Bonnet ( Hood ) will be the same color. Front Guards ( fenders ) will be Merino another 1966 Ford Color.

As for the Chev will perhaps Wings sold it I know it was his as I recall it at the Rod Nats in Lousiville when I spoke to him back in 1994.

Originally Posted by PAToyota

Thanks for the update! Very sweet project!

Your welcome. I will try to keep them coming now as I had forgotton I posted this topic.

[HOTFR8]

Thanks To Junkman I found this thread / topic and will update it again soon.

[HOTFR8]

Here is the Dash. Smiths Guages. LED Lights for indicators and Auto. US gear Overdrive switch to the right and above the dash the Turbo timer.
Steering Column is F-350 or the same as the Falcon here of the same era.

This is the underdash area. LPG ( Propane ) Computer as well as Cruise control, Auto shift controls, Heater Air Con etc.

[HOTFR8]

March 16th and time again to update.

Running boards painted with a body deadener ( gives ripple finish effect ) and color. The black strips are body moulding so you do not step on a painted surface.


Front Guards. Still have to put the grille, headlights back.




What the front looks like at present.

Still a lot to do yet.

[nissan_crawler]

That thing looks great, but you put the steering wheel on the wrong side. i want to do this to an old chevy for a tow pig.

[PAToyota]

Looking good!

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by nissan_crawler

That thing looks great, but you put the steering wheel on the wrong side. i want to do this to an old chevy for a tow pig.

But it is on the right ( hand ) side for an Aussie .
You Tube is full of many ideas. Just type in 6BT, 4BT or Cummins Rat Rod on a search in You Tube and you will be surprised.

Just a few I found >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVlov_t4fjg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeUu_xGOy1Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=AU&h...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nCvjWHGnTQ

or how about this Lake Gairdner Speed Week 2009 ( 9th to 13th March )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uAJt...e=channel_page
I'm told it went 135 MPH with a Cummins.

Originally Posted by PAToyota

Looking good!

Thank you . I am happy with it but still alot to be done yet.

[HOTFR8]

Two of my mates helping me with the project have just surprised me by emailing me these photos. Taken on the 16th whilst I was not about.

[RbrtAWhyt]

Cool looking ride...

[nonhog]

Just how wide is your "sleeper" ? I'll have to subscribe to this as I cant see most of the pics @ work . Cool rig !

[Truxx1956]

Do you know about the FTE site? I'm on there alot, but on here more now. P.M. me if you need the site link. You'd fit right in!!

Nice work by the way dude

[HOTFR8]

Sleeper is no longer stock size. It's had the full custom work cut shut and chopped to the size to fit the F4 cab.

I think I know of the FTE site post a link here if you wish as I am sure others will be interested. I was on the Bonusbuilt forum until that was suspended.

This is the photo update today.

Now have most of the lights refitted.

[5wndwcpe]

Cool beans.

[HOTFR8]

20-3-2009.

If you turn this photo side on you can see the SOCK -sleeper cab rubber is now in place.

[HOTFR8]

25th-3-2009.





Still a lot to do yet. But now it looks like a truck again.

Can any HAMB members tell me what happened to this link http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=344929
about Cummins Powered Hot Rods ? I get this message - Invalid Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator. I have sent a PM to Ryan about it via this forum as he is the admin on the HAMB.

[35mastr]

Originally Posted by HOTFR8

25th-3-2009.





Still a lot to do yet. But now it looks like a truck again.

Can any HAMB members tell me what happened to this link http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=344929
about Cummins Powered Hot Rods ? I get this message - Invalid Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator. I have sent a PM to Ryan about it via this forum as he is the admin on the HAMB.

They will delete threads there if they are off topic.

Being a diesel it most likley was deleted.

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by 35mastr

They will delete threads there if they are off topic.

Being a diesel it most likley was deleted.

WOW Those HAMB guys are true traditionalists. I doubt then this project of mine would be accepted if I posted it on the HAMB.

[e-tek]

Traditionalists yes, but "SOME" of those HAMBERS are just too cool for school!

Love your project! Is there any way for you toput all those pics into an album so we can go through them easier?

[HOTFR8]

E-tek I did have them all posted in an online album but the site was closed and I lost access to them so sadly it is no longer accessable. I have well over 150 photos now as I needed to keep records for the engineer. Once he inspects it I may then do a DVD slide show to use when the truck is at shows. Although not really what your asking for.

[HOTFR8]

Will mount these on the front in the next few days so as to match the back ones. Back brakes decided to leak so had to pull them apart and redo them all. All the rubbers are now going back into the cab as will the glass etc. Had to get new window mechanisms but now I have them all should come together quickly. Front park lights have been giving me a few hassles as I have the wrong surrounds. They look like 46 sedan and are not the same as the 48 truck.

[Plushy]

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Plushy

thanks Plushy

[Plushy]

Are you still going to Flame the front ? or use it as is ?

You will have to let me know how the lpg/diesel mix goes with fuel economy as i am looking at similar in the future for a F250 .

[HOTFR8]

Got the front ALCOA's on today. Will update with some more photos later in the week. All the fiddly stuff now like making dash knobs etc. made one from a Sleeper cab rivet that will make a few people stop to work out what it is.

Originally Posted by Plushy

Are you still going to Flame the front ? or use it as is ?

I gave up on the flames idea some time ago and will be getting some sign writing done soon along with some pinstriping as it will suit it better.

Originally Posted by Plushy

You will have to let me know how the lpg/diesel mix goes with fuel economy as i am looking at similar in the future for a F250 .

As for the Diesel / LPG I already know just how well it will work once we Dyno tune it. I got the system from Global Fuel Solutions http://gfsi.com.au/ if that helps you. But be warned some of the newer Diesels can not have LPG systems fitted. If you want more info PM me and I will send you some contact details.

[HOTFR8]

A few things left to do now.

Check wiring loom, Install TV and DVD, Signage on the doors, Upholstery, Cruise control, Set up the auto as a manual shift kit, Finish off the paint underside, Finalise and tune the LPG and gas up the Aircon system.

[HOTFR8]

17th- April 2009.
Finaly took these old Split rims off the front.

and fitted the ALCOA's.


This is a photo from the back.

Sorry it is a little dark ( ARTY ) but it puts the project in perspective.

[38Chevy454]

Looks nice with the new front wheels. So have you actually taken it out on the road yet? I bet that engine and the LP help will be a torque monster.

[PAToyota]

Sorry to hear that you aren't doing the flames, but still looking great anyways!

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by PAToyota

Sorry to hear that you aren't doing the flames, but still looking great anyways!

I have decided to go with some more suitable (period looking) Pinstriping and to Sign write the doors. I will see what you think when it is done. The flames in the multi colors would be a lot of work. I am talking to my local Sign writer at the present as he works in with the paint shop I have used.

Originally Posted by 38Chevy454

Looks nice with the new front wheels. So have you actually taken it out on the road yet? I bet that engine and the LP help will be a torque monster.

No, it has not been on the road yet. Still have to work out the Auto and perhaps fit a manual kit to that C6. Your not the only one to tell me that about it being a Torque Monster. In fact the 6BT is a big motor in what is a small truck. A 4BT would have been ok but then I am a Hot Rodder so the
6BT more power or in this case more Torque .

[HOTFR8]

Have now installed the television into the sleeper cab. I have the UHF and 27mhz CB antennas fitted and the cables run. Just have to wait for the upholstery fellow to finish off his part of the job.

Will post more photos soon.

[OZChris]

Looks great

[Plushy]

Simon are you going to the Lancefeild Swapmeet on the weekend ?

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Plushy

Simon are you going to the Lancefeild Swapmeet on the weekend ?

No, I did consider it. To busy on the project at present. Went last year and was impressed.

[HOTFR8]

23 April 2009.

Front Salt style push bar has gone back on as well as the CB antennas.

TV in Sleeper Cab. Still waiting for the upholstery to be finished.

Front Cab less the seats.

[HOTFR8]

All coming together now.

Carpet is in. Black so you can not see it

Seats back in.

Cushions in the sleeper cab.

A better look at the seats. Just a few small jobs to do in the cab now.

[Plushy]

Great Progress Simon ! Wish my Blitz was progressing that fast

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Plushy

Great Progress Simon ! Wish my Blitz was progressing that fast

When you get to the stage I am now at I can tell you it does progress fast.
Your Blitz will be the same.

Major delay is the LPG rebate at present

[HOTFR8]

A delay in the project whilst I deal with Government red tape can be read about here >

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...d=1#post468586

meanwhile it all goes back together.

[HOTFR8]

With a bit of luck next week it will be back in my workshop again next week.
I will update with some new photos. Upholstery is finished and the next thing I have to do is make sure all the wiring loom is intact so we do not short anything out.

[HOTFR8]

and I should have added sort out the insurance as that looks like another delay now.

[HOTFR8]

A day late posting these as I have been very busy.



Yes, that is the open door to my workshop.




The list to finish it is getting smaller.

[T_F_E]

Awesome looking truck! I just got myself a 49 f6, thats been sittin, rotting in a field for the past 20 years. I finally got spark and it to fire a couple days ago.

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by T_F_E

Awesome looking truck!

Thank you.

Originally Posted by T_F_E

I just got myself a 49 f6, thats been sittin, rotting in a field for the past 20 years. I finally got spark and it to fire a couple days ago.

Good for you. Sorry but I am still stunned that you have such a good truck and what you intend to do with it. I can see great potential considering what mine was like when I started.

[T_F_E]

Originally Posted by HOTFR8

Good for you. Sorry but I am still stunned that you have such a good truck and what you intend to do with it. I can see great potential considering what mine was like when I started.

I know the potential it has, but now I'm 17 with my income limited by how much wood I can cut. I would love to restore it or do anything like you have done with yours

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by T_F_E

I know the potential it has, but now I'm 17 with my income limited by how much wood I can cut. I would love to restore it or do anything like you have done with yours

Well may I then offer you some advice.

My 1st car was like your truck. I just needed a car to drive. I looked after it like it was the best car I would ever have. One day I could afford to do it up and I still have it today. It only comes out when I want a nice car to drive.

If you do that one day you will have a vehicle that some one may just to you.

[HOTFR8]

I have had some good publicity recently.

http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/...d/1512589.aspx

Article fails to mention my plans for BIO Diesel.

EDITED note: Thanks to Rocket I did not know they posted it on the web.
How the heck did you find it Rod ???

[Skyline]

Truck looks great. Can't say I get the antennas mounted on the bumper. I would think that they would be kind of annoying while driving. Here in the states, most big rigs mount their CB antennas on the mirrors. It would seem to make more sense....

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Skyline

Truck looks great.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by Skyline

Can't say I get the antennas mounted on the bumper. I would think that they would be kind of annoying while driving. Here in the states, most big rigs mount their CB antennas on the mirrors. It would seem to make more sense....

Height was an issue to mount them on the mirrors as I would be forever taking them off to get into places or breaking them under trees etc . I did intend to mount them behind the sleeper but ran out of room after I mounted the mobile/cell phone. It is legal to mount them that way here as it is the opposite side to the driver. Most Road trains run the big UHF antennas on the front like that here so that was one reason for doing it.

[HOTFR8]

I turned the key again today, almost 12 months ago since it was last running and that was before all the body work and paint. Not long to rego now. I have to get the DVD player fitted. as well as the auto, finish the paint work and the sign writing etc. Sort out the LPG ( Propane ) .

[Plushy]

Photos Simon i need PHOTOS I bet your itching to get the Beast on the road !

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Plushy

Photos Simon i need PHOTOS I bet your itching to get the Beast on the road !

No more photos to update as yet. Nothing more to see. A week I may have some more for you

[HOTFR8]

Who wanted more photos ?

5th June. I had my first short drive today out of my workshop ready to go back to the paint shop to finish off a few things. Only First & Reverse in the Auto until I get the manual shift kit fitted.



The Big Inline 6 Cummins just purrs.

[HOTFR8]

Any one reading this topic may also like to read another topic >

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=34907

About the grey area of the rules for an LPG (propane) Rebate.

[Plushy]

Looks Great Simon ! It will certainly get people`s attention . Just noticed the mirrors can you see past the sleeper cab with them ?

[Rocket]

Originally Posted by HOTFR8

I have had some good publicity recently.

http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/...d/1512589.aspx

Article fails to mention my plans for BIO Diesel.

EDITED note: Thanks to Rocket I did not know they posted it on the web.
How the heck did you find it Rod ???

Trade secret
Not much gets passed me mate !!

Great to se she's out of the shed ......under her own steam

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Plushy

Looks Great Simon ! It will certainly get people`s attention . Just noticed the mirrors can you see past the sleeper cab with them ?

Thank you . I hope it does. Yes, I can see past the sleeper.

Originally Posted by Rocket

Trade secret
Not much gets passed me mate !!

Great to se she's out of the shed ......under her own steam

So I have noticed

It is back in the paint shop now. Still waiting for the parts for the Auto to arrive.

[HOTFR8]

The body & paint shop I am using specialise in Mack Truck Restoration so on his advise I am now adding a lot of metal nut covers to any visible bolt on the truck similar to these

just to give it some more bling.

[HOTFR8]

Installed the DVD / Stereo system yesterday. Sorry no photos yet. System is hidden in the glove box with a 400 Watt Amp in the sleeper with four 350 Watt Speakers also located in the sleeper. The flat screen TV works well with the system.

[Rocket]

Originally Posted by HOTFR8

Installed the DVD / Stereo system yesterday. Sorry no photos yet. System is hidden in the glove box with a 400 Watt Amp in the sleeper with four 350 Watt Speakers also located in the sleeper. The flat screen TV works well with the system.

But ya can't watch telly & drive

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Rocket

But ya can't watch telly & drive

I know that, passengers in the back will enjoy it. Should look good at shows with the Sleeper cab door open and the Sleeper acts like a big sound box.

[HOTFR8]

Stuck in 1st gear at present - Please see this topic -

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...131#post525131

Can any one suggest where I may be able to buy a Manual valve kit for C6 Auto either in Australia or the USA ? Preferably a reputable place.

[Rocket]

Originally Posted by HOTFR8

Stuck in 1st gear at present - Please see this topic -

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...131#post525131

Can any one suggest where I may be able to buy a Manual valve kit for C6 Auto either in Australia or the USA ? Preferably a reputable place.

?????????????
Why ??
Whats wrong with a normal trans ? (not that I've got anything against full manual)
So whats wrong with the trans??

[HOTFR8]

Torque. The Diesel creates to much Torque even though we have a vacc pump fitted the shifts would be very hard on the auto and the best way to fix this will be a full manual kit Not even going to bother with a kick down linkage as it may over rev the Diesel.

The only reason I did not fit a manual gearbox was the fact I could not find a box suitable to manage all that torque. An Auto will manage this much better.
In fact the C6 is still used more behind Diesels than any other box.

[Rocket]

Well...........There ya go

[Jared]

i wouldn't worry about over reving it with the kickdown the cummins will only rev to like 2300 with the stock govenor springs.

[JohnK007]

Can any one suggest where I may be able to buy a Manual valve kit for C6 Auto either in Australia or the USA ? Preferably a reputable place.

Not sure if this is exactly what you're looking for. Scroll about halfway down the page. Never dealt with them personally so I can't comment on how reputable they are.

http://www.broaderperformance.com/C6...nd%20parts.htm

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Jared

i wouldn't worry about over reving it with the kickdown the cummins will only rev to like 2300 with the stock govenor springs.

I have not fitted a kick down. Wondering now if I should I feel it will not be needed with a manual shift kit. Working on the idea that Peak Torque is about 2000 /2500 RPM so cruising speed should be 100 KMH (or 60 MPH) and well with in that RPM range.

Originally Posted by JohnK007

Not sure if this is exactly what you're looking for. Scroll about halfway down the page. Never dealt with them personally so I can't comment on how reputable they are.

http://www.broaderperformance.com/C6...nd%20parts.htm

Thank you, Looks like it. I have a few places to follow up now.

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Jared

i wouldn't worry about over reving it with the kickdown the cummins will only rev to like 2300 with the stock govenor springs.

Just double checked a few things and by fitting the manual valve shift kit the kick down becomes redundent. This should save the problem of the auto trying to make the engine rev harder if the kick down was in place.

Not easy to find a manual valve kit for a C6 Auto at present in Australia or the US.

[Rocket]

Originally Posted by HOTFR8

Not easy to find a manual valve kit for a C6 Auto at present in Australia or the US.

Ok seeing as you sort of asked
I've have a source that I will try for you.
(do I have to do everything )

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Rocket

Ok seeing as you sort of asked
I've have a source that I will try for you.
(do I have to do everything )

You could just send me the information so I can contact them.

Have tried most of my contacts and those given to me without much success. As I stated it appears no one in Australia has what I need.

[Rocket]

Originally Posted by HOTFR8

You could just send me the information so I can contact them.

Have tried most of my contacts and those given to me without much success. As I stated it appears no one in Australia has what I need.

Your right mate (just stirring the pot as usual )

I'll try to remember to ring him and see what he says, though you may well be right.
I just thought of another possible contact.
he's an ex drag racer (funny he used to crew at Willowbank when I used to be there ) anyway, he has been calling in a bit (also a mate ofthe owner of Rockets.....another ex drag racer ) so you never know.

[BadGT04]

Love it! Thanks for sharing

[HOTFR8]

The Valve body is out and will be sent away this week to be converted to a fully manual shift kit.

[Rocket]

Originally Posted by HOTFR8

The Valve body is out and will be sent away this week to be converted to a fully manual shift kit.

Good stuff mate
(I didn't work on my Pickup today ... too busy cleaning & packaging another batch of shrinking disc's)

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by HOTFR8

The body & paint shop I am using specialise in Mack Truck Restoration so on his advise I am now adding a lot of metal nut covers to any visible bolt on the truck similar to these

just to give it some more bling.

Back to the start with these as when they arrived thay are all PLASTIC and did not fit. Not like the metal sample ones they supplied to me.

On a good note I should have the transmission sorted soon

[HOTFR8]

Auto transmission will go back together in the next few days.
Still trying to sort out the Bolt Nut covers and have found a new supplier that will provide metal covers. Still, will wait to see what I see as samples.

I am keen to finish it but annoyed with delays.

[HOTFR8]

August 1st, valve body is back in and the F4 has been for a test drive. A few little problems to fix but otherwise I am very happy how it has all come together. I have 14.6 Km's on the speedo now.

Perhaps now the topic heading should be
'The BEAST Moves.'

[Rocket]

Originally Posted by HOTFR8

August 1st, valve body is back in and the F4 has been for a test drive. A few little problems to fix but otherwise I am very happy how it has all come together. I have 14.6 Km's on the speedo now.

Perhaps now the topic heading should be
'The BEAST Moves.'

So your ready for that trip over here then Simon

(good to hear things are finally working out ok )

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Rocket

So your ready for that trip over here then Simon

Yes, Almost, but I will not make it to you. I have to get the compliance plate fitted and have to go to Dimboola for that.

Originally Posted by Rocket

(good to hear things are finally working out ok )

The trip was to the next town and back about 9 miles. As the mate who went with me said it was a credit to my build work. I also see it as a credit to those who have helped me build it.

[Rocket]

Originally Posted by HOTFR8

Yes, Almost, but I will not make it to you. I have to get the compliance plate fitted and have to go to Dimboola for that.


The trip was to the next town and back about 9 miles. As the mate who went with me said it was a credit to my build work. I also see it as a credit to those who have helped me build it.

[HOTFR8]

Just little jobs to fix.

An injector is leaking, Glove box lid needs to have a catch ( Ideas welcome) as I had a magnet but it did not work, Excelerator linkage needs some work to adjust, Bonnet is touching in places that it should not and the steering wheel needs adjusting. All small items to be fixed before I travel to far.

Signwriting will be next. Photos will follow.

[HOTFR8]

I did hope to post some more photos today . I have a problem with my Sign Writer as he can not spell....... I will still have to wait for him to complete some of the work for me and the rest being a display board I hope now will be done by a Hot Rod friend.

[thomask]

HOTFR8

What a great truck. Can't wait to see her all complete and ready for show and go.

She is an eye catcher and will be a road runner, too. Great ad for you.

If you ever bring her to the States she would be most welcomed at any Truck Show.

A toast from all your friends over here to a mighty fine group of "mates" that really helped make this happen.

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by thomask

HOTFR8

What a great truck. Can't wait to see her all complete and ready for show and go.

She is an eye catcher and will be a road runner, too. Great ad for you.

If you ever bring her to the States she would be most welcomed at any Truck Show.

A toast from all your friends over here to a mighty fine group of "mates" that really helped make this happen.

THANK YOU Still a lot to happen yet.

[HOTFR8]

Will start on the sign writing next week. Photos will follow.

[HOTFR8]

As promised.

Before. 121th-8-2009.

Started. 13th-8-2009

Getting there.

Done. 14th-8-2009.

Still some scroll work to be done.

[HOTFR8]

Some more photos.

[Rocket]

So is she going ok now Simon??
(I'm sure the sign writting has helped )

What's an esky doing parked in your drive way?? (spose it is a Ford!)

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Rocket

So is she going ok now Simon??
(I'm sure the sign writting has helped )

I have about 50k's on it now and have had to drive it to most places to finish some work. LPG Compliance and Gas the Air Con, Engineer and Roadworthy is all to be done now.

Originally Posted by Rocket

What's an esky doing parked in your drive way?? (spose it is a Ford!)

That is my Mums car formerly my Grandmothers Car and came from my Uncles Ford Dealership many years ago. Recently had it valued as it is in such good order and was surprised to find out it is worth more than market value as it is in such good order. May just be the next project as little work would bring it back to pristine condition.

[Plushy]

Originally Posted by Rocket

What's an esky doing parked in your drive way?? (spose it is a Ford!)

Whats wrong with a Esky ? I used to Rally a MK1 and a Couple of Mk2`s years ago great little cars

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Plushy

Whats wrong with a Esky ? I used to Rally a MK1 and a Couple of Mk2`s years ago great little cars

The Escort is a great little car. If I had my way i would use the running gear for an A Roadster as a sleeper. A great rally car.

This one could be my next project as a restoration. Only needs minor work.

F4 is waiting for the Engineer to finish but before I do that I have to get the LPG Compliance plate fitted and the Air Con finished and Gassed.

Roadworthy and Rego to follow.

[Rocket]

Originally Posted by Plushy

Whats wrong with a Esky ? I used to Rally a MK1 and a Couple of Mk2`s years ago great little cars

Did I say there was anything 'wrong' with an esky ??

[HOTFR8]

I now have about 80% of these given to me by a supplier.

Just need to work out how to make my own glove box catch and I am ready to finish the LPG etc. for registration.

[HOTFR8]

Just a couple of photos with some of the covers on.

[Rocket]

ya gett'n a little carried away now Simon

maybe you need to start another project

[HOTFR8]

Yes I know, but it needed some finish as all those exposed bolts look untidy. Will get the LPG Compliance plate this week hopefully.

Looks like my next project will be a small fuel trailer to keep my Bio Blend Diesel in.

[Rocket]

Originally Posted by HOTFR8

Looks like my next project will be a small fuel trailer to keep my Bio Blend Diesel in.

SEE, I knew you should have put larger tanks on ( I could have got you a couple too )

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Rocket

SEE, I knew you should have put larger tanks on ( I could have got you a couple too )

No need for larger tanks just the fact I have to buy Bio Diesel in Bulk and need a place to keep it / store it and a way to get it, so that is the thinking behind the trailer also the fact I can not buy Bio Diesel locally.

Trip to Kyneton and back today went well. I have to go back next week for the LPG compliance plate due to a mix up with the paperwork.

The F4 cruised well at Highway speeds.

[HOTFR8]

Finally........ I got an LPG complaince plate fitted today. Next an Engineers report and a Roadworthy and Registration .

The LPG rebate is still like

[HOTFR8]

I wish I could report more information but I am now dealing with my Engineer so as to register the F4. Again held up by red tape with the LPG system

[HOTFR8]

I am still working my way towards registration with an Engineer. All looks good at the present.
Truck made its DEBUT over the weekend here at the Castlemaine Rod Run - 75 Years of the 1933 / 34 Ford. I had the 1923 T Roadster at the Show & Shine then late in the morning took it home and came back in the F4.

[Rocket]

Got the short cut to the vid thanks Simon.

I had quite a few call in today on the way home.
Made me feel like I really missed another great run

These guys stayed for lunch

[HOTFR8]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y69Qf2gTzYo

For those here on the Forum here is the You Tube link. Both my T Roadster and the F4 can be seen.

Was a great weekend and I would think between 500 and 600 cars on the Sunday alone.

The F4 sure turned some heads, but then the T Roadster was also well photographed earlier in the day.

Video clip was made by a seven year old grandson of one of the Castlemaine Rod Club members.

[HOTFR8]

The T Roadster at the event (above) and (below) the F4 making its debut.

With my Mum and Girlfriend both feeling very proud.

[Rocket]

Originally Posted by HOTFR8

With my Mum and Girlfriend both feeling very proud.

What??????????? You've got time for a girlfriend

[Rocket]

Oh!
For those over seas,
The aqua 36 coupe is a mates (about half way through the video) it was made from a sedan some years ago (all metal finished) & still looks great (they even took home another trophy )

Yes, Simon.
the Tee still looks good too

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Rocket

What??????????? You've got time for a girlfriend

That should be more like she has time for me. recently came back from halfway round the world to be here.

Originally Posted by Rocket

Oh!
For those over seas,
The aqua 36 coupe is a mates (about half way through the video) it was made from a sedan some years ago (all metal finished) & still looks great (they even took home another trophy )

Yes, Simon.
the Tee still looks good too

Yes, that Aqua 36 Coupe has to be called a work of art.

I know I did say this but - That clip was made by a 7 year old, a grandson of one of the Castlemaine Rod Club Members. Well done Conner.

The T is well looked after.

Back to the F4 project today and the Enginner will continue soon.

[e-tek]

The truck looks AWESOME!!!! Congrats on getting it finsihed so nicely and out to a show!

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by e-tek

The truck looks AWESOME!!!! Congrats on getting it finsihed so nicely and out to a show!

Thanks E-tek, still a few things to finish on it with more bolt covers as yet to arrive and the Engineers report etc. to be completed prior to registration.

[HOTFR8]

For those interested here are a few links to the weekend with many photos.
Many have photos of the F4 making its debut.


On the HAMB >
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=398109
AND
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s....php?p=4340248

On Oz Rodders ( more commonly now as Oz Rott due to how many posts you read to get the information you wanted )>

http://www.ozrodders.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=31793

Now back on the topic as I await the Engineer I am now starting on a bulk fuel trailer as my next small project so I can purchase Bio Diesel blended fuel and store it. I have a US Freightliner truck fuel tank that holds 60 Gallons or 227 litres that will be the base for the project.

[HOTFR8]

About 90% into the Engineers report now. All looking good.

[Rocket]

Originally Posted by HOTFR8

About 90% into the Engineers report now. All looking good.

GEEZ !!
This is taking some time
(that is presuming you built it with the engineers guidence ?)
I would have thought it would have been a given

[Skyline]

Can you explain to us non-Aussies what an Engineer's report is?

[Rocket]

Originally Posted by Skyline

Can you explain to us non-Aussies what an Engineer's report is?

I'll let Simon explain about his truck, but as far as a Rod is concerned, if you build out side of the guidelines (in our state anyway) you need to have that part of your build approved & signed off by an automotive engineer.
Eg: My shop truck build (the thread is on here some where) I need to step the rear of the chassis. That part has to be signed off by an engineer. Not a big deal really, just contact one, make the changes how he wants to see it, he will inspect it & provide the papper work for the rego department.

To get rego in some states in Australia, you require an engineer to sign off on the whole car (we are very lucky in this state)

As Simons is a truck......comercial, that goes by a different set of rules again. These rules also differ from state to state

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Skyline

Can you explain to us non-Aussies what an Engineer's report is?

OK, in Australia all cars are built to comply with ADR's (Australian Design Rules) http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roa...dr_online.aspx
Now that will boggle the mind. now every company that builds a car so say for example Ford produce a car or import from another factory it must be shown to comply with the relevant ADR's. Pollution, safety requirements etc.

Now what I am doing and have done is put a a 1948/49 cab on a later Chassis. This chassis complied with the ADR's for 1977 and as the cab I have used did not comply with any of these ADR's and the Cummins engine complies with another set of ADR's I have to get a registered Engineer to write up a report to show how all the changes I have made comply.

Seats and seat belts for example have to comply as does windscreen and many other items. I suppose you can say the Engineer helps me prove my vehicle is safe and that all changes are not illegal.

Now as Rod said the different states here interept (read) the ADR's differently. State Govenrments vs Federal Governments.... and that is a tin of worms with the LPG issue....Sorry another topic.

Any way what I have done is modify a light truck and the engineer is now looking to see that all the work I have done complies with what is required. I have taken a 1948 Ford cab and updated it to comply with the ADR's that where required for the Chassis (1977) and the Cummins engine (1991) As I have reused many parts from the chassis like the steering column and brake booster, I can prove nothing has changed and that I still comply with the relevent ADR's. Example I have used the steering column that came with the chassis so it still has a steering lock to comply with ADR 25 -Anti theft locks.

All a lot of fun when you use new LED style lights that comply with the new ADR's so with my vehicle it has been interesting as I have complied with some ADR's that the chassis, engine and cab never had to comply with.

I hope that explains to you

Now if you want to build a Hot Rod that opens another tin of worms.

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roa...treet_rod.aspx
or this one >
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roa.../vsb_ncop.aspx

[Skyline]

Originally Posted by HOTFR8

OK, in Australia all cars are built to comply with ADR's (Australian Design Rules) http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roa...dr_online.aspx
Now that will boggle the mind. now every company that builds a car so say for example Ford produce a car or import from another factory it must be shown to comply with the relevant ADR's. Pollution, safety requirements etc.

Now what I am doing and have done is put a a 1948/49 cab on a later Chassis. This chassis complied with the ADR's for 1977 and as the cab I have used did not comply with any of these ADR's and the Cummins engine complies with another set of ADR's I have to get a registered Engineer to write up a report to show how all the changes I have made comply.

Seats and seat belts for example have to comply as does windscreen and many other items. I suppose you can say the Engineer helps me prove my vehicle is safe and that all changes are not illegal.

Now as Rod said the different states here interept (read) the ADR's differently. State Govenrments vs Federal Governments.... and that is a tin of worms with the LPG issue....Sorry another topic.

Any way what I have done is modify a light truck and the engineer is now looking to see that all the work I have done complies with what is required. I have taken a 1948 Ford cab and updated it to comply with the ADR's that where required for the Chassis (1977) and the Cummins engine (1991) As I have reused many parts from the chassis like the steering column and brake booster, I can prove nothing has changed and that I still comply with the relevent ADR's. Example I have used the steering column that came with the chassis so it still has a steering lock to comply with ADR 25 -Anti theft locks.

All a lot of fun when you use new LED style lights that comply with the new ADR's so with my vehicle it has been interesting as I have complied with some ADR's that the chassis, engine and cab never had to comply with.

I hope that explains to you

Now if you want to build a Hot Rod that opens another tin of worms.

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roa...treet_rod.aspx
or this one >
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roa.../vsb_ncop.aspx

Holly crap. Around here, to register a rediculously modded 1948 truck, you basically have to prove the lights and horn works, it stops when you press the brake pedal, and there is measuarable tread on all tires. And no cracks of the driver's side of the windshield.

[Rocket]

Building Hot Rod is pertty easy in this state mate
If you build inside of the National Guidelines, you don't need an engineer & can doo al the work your self & gian "FULL" rego (unlike many other states)

South Australia.........The Rod Freindly State

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Rocket

Building Hot Rod is pertty easy in this state mate
If you build inside of the National Guidelines, you don't need an engineer & can doo al the work your self & gian "FULL" rego (unlike many other states)

South Australia.........The Rod Freindly State

Very true but then we are allowed bigger motors here in VIC than you are allowed in SA Rod.
Every state here in Australia has something different to deal with.

I have to remind you what I have done is a modified light truck and technicaly not a Street / Hot Rod even though that is what it looks like to most. To comply with the ADR's is simply proving the parts I have used are ADR suitable.

Oh Skyline, what you mention is part of what we call the roadworthy cerificate here. Would be similar in most states of Australia.

[Rocket]

Originally Posted by HOTFR8

Very true but then we are allowed bigger motors here in VIC than you are allowed in SA Rod.

What's bigger than a BIG Block ????????

We can run a Blown Big Block here if we want, so not sure where you get your info from & with FULL STREET REGO

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Rocket

GEEZ !!
This is taking some time
(that is presuming you built it with the engineers guidence ?)
I would have thought it would have been a given

Engineer was good with me, he just said build it and we will prove it complies. he has seen my work before He did (said) the same thing Rod with Kyms last Coupe.

Originally Posted by Rocket

What's bigger than a BIG Block ????????

We can run a Blown Big Block here if we want, so not sure where you get your info from & with FULL STREET REGO

Oh, are you allowed Big Blocks now ? When I had the 1939 Sloper I was told that it would not be registered in SA with the 396 Big Block.

A fellow here has a crate motor 572 ready for a project.

OK, back on topic. Engineer is happy but has been delayed due to his wifes sons wedding. I have to get a noise test and roadworthy done for him and I am finished. Just have to wait for him to type it up for me

[Rocket]

Good stuff mate

(oh! yes........we've always been able to build Rods with Big Blocks....they just have to be engineered, which is a given for any Rod in your state. We don't need an engineer for "normal" builds here

Did I say good stuff with the Beast

[HOTFR8]

Thanks Rod. Normal Normal What Rod have you seen me build that is Normal ?

Oh, only SR plates get away without an Engineers report in most cases. Differnt states differnt rules. As long as the rules work for us that is the main thing

[HOTFR8]

I should be informing you next week the project is finished. Noise test and gassing of the Air Con tomorrow then a Roadworthy and once I have my Engineers report I will register it hopefully next week

[HOTFR8]

OK, noise test is done a super quiet (for a Diesel) 92db and the aircon has been gassed. I think the system could make ice it blows that cold.
Roadworthy will be done next week.

[Rocket]

[quote=HOTFR8;606497[
Thanks Rod. Normal Normal What Rod have you seen me build that is Normal ?
[/QUOTE]


:b ounce:

[HOTFR8]

Roadworthy and brake test have been done today all I need now is the final engineers report to complete it and I can register the F4.

[HOTFR8]

The Engineer has had a few problems with some small items that I have easily changed and above you will see I have made a front tow ball shin protector as it is not big enough to be a bumper bar. Engineer did not like my front bar so this was the answer for him and now means I have the tow ball fitted on the front at all times. Number plate was mounted up to see how it all fits (as no rego yet) and the bar looks much better painted.

I also finished fitting the last 32 bolt / nut covers over the weekend.

[HOTFR8]

I have my Engineers report All ten pages.

[HOTFR8]

Going for Registration today.

[Rocket]

Originally Posted by hotfr8

going for registration today.

and ????????????

[HOTFR8]

Flew through Registration on the 21st. One of the Vic Roads Staff (female) asked who owned it and then said it was "cute" ....
before I could reply, a response from the fellow doing my papers to say
"No way that thing is a Beast".


Now off to chase the LPG rebate (again), then fix the cruise control and tune the LPG (propane) system.

[thewelder]

You need to make that spoiler on the back bigger or take it off, it just doesn't fit the truck. Its what we call ricer here. Rest of the truck looks amazing and it would look even better with a spoiler like the one in your avatar. Absolutely amazing job on that truck. Even better if you would take the wing off or just make it bigger.

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by thewelder

You need to make that spoiler on the back bigger or take it off, it just doesn't fit the truck. Its what we call ricer here. Rest of the truck looks amazing and it would look even better with a spoiler like the one in your avatar. Absolutely amazing job on that truck. Even better if you would take the wing off or just make it bigger.

Now that is just why I used the wing as I have done to make people make comments as you have done. The Wing is not stock and is full of LED's as indicators brake lights and reverse lights etc. that you can only see at night and from the back. As for it being a ricer that term is for huge wings on Jap cars when the wings are far bigger than the car and the owner has the turbo pop off valve blowing so it creates no boost whilst the stereo is louder than the engine . If the wing was any bigger sadly I would have had registration issues.

[thomask]

HOTFR8

Another toast to you for a SUPER build from your friends in the States.

This has been one great build to follow. Thanks for the great posts.

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by thomask

HOTFR8

Another toast to you for a SUPER build from your friends in the States.

This has been one great build to follow. Thanks for the great posts.

Thank you. Still a few things to do with it yet as my Cruise Control will not set and the LPG (Propane) system is yet to be tuned. I will post more as I progress and perhaps win a few trophies

I have been asked if I would take it to the States and show it but at this point in time I think that is not a viable option for me.

[48fordcoe]

I'm building a F-7 with a sleeper ,I have the sleeper already chop and shorten . My truck is still on the F-7 frame I was looking at your frame what is off . and make truck thanks

[48fordcoe]

what frame are you using I have a F-7 that I'm doing the same thing

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by 48fordcoe

I'm building a F-7 with a sleeper ,I have the sleeper already chop and shorten . My truck is still on the F-7 frame I was looking at your frame what is off . and make truck thanks

Originally Posted by 48fordcoe

what frame are you using I have a F-7 that I'm doing the same thing

I see we have a new member here so I hope you introduced yourself in the intor section. I also noted you commented on the FTE forum after bob posted the photo. Chassis I have used is an Aussie Ford F-350.

[HOTFR8]

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/89...nus-built.html

On the FTE forum. For those interested.

[Plushy]

Mate i saw the Beast on Saturday arvo in mair street at the lights and i gotta say it looks Fantastic in the Flesh . The missus said she reckons its a 10 outta 10 as well now shes giving me a hard time to get some of my projects on the road

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Plushy

Mate i saw the Beast on Saturday arvo in mair street at the lights and i gotta say it looks Fantastic in the Flesh . The missus said she reckons its a 10 outta 10 as well now shes giving me a hard time to get some of my projects on the road

Thank you Still sorting out a few little problems with a few things. A few things to change or strengthen after the weekend and this is what I expected. I am happy with the way it drives and that was the biggest trip to date. A pity it was such a wet weekend, but then we do need the rain.

[Rocket]

Originally Posted by Plushy

Mate i saw the Beast on Saturday arvo in mair street at the lights and i gotta say it looks Fantastic in the Flesh . The missus said she reckons its a 10 outta 10 as well now shes giving me a hard time to get some of my projects on the road

G'Day Plushy (how goes it?)
I'd have to agree with you there (I saw it up the street in Bendigo on the Friday night before the swap)
I'd also have to agree with your Missus GET IN THAT SHED

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Rocket

G'Day Plushy (how goes it?)
I'd have to agree with you there (I saw it up the street in Bendigo on the Friday night before the swap)
I'd also have to agree with your Missus GET IN THAT SHED

Only way to get it done Plushy as Rocket said just get into that shed.
I hope I gave you some motorvation. Would love to see that Blitz of yours going. In the mean time I am back in the shed fixing all the things I broke over the weekend and things that I found that need to be improved. I have a couple of oil leaks to fix but that may be simply because the motor sat for so long during the project build.

[HOTFR8]

Currently having a problem with oil in the water. I have had the oil cooler apart and tested a couple of times now and replaced all the gaskets. Next thing to look at will be the gaskets on the head. Not what I wanted to be doing now I have the F4 going. problem may have come about due to the motor sitting for so long or perhaps some one has not done the right thing when working on the motor ( not me ). Also waiting on either a modem or computer program so the LPG ( Propane ) can be set up as it is not sniffing the LPG at present and will make a big difference when done.

I also went to enter the F4 in the Victorian Hot Rod Show but was declined due to the weight of the vehicle on the floor as the Royal Exhibition building is heritage listed.

[Rocket]

Originally Posted by HOTFR8

Currently having a problem with oil in the water

Oooooooooo Bugger

I also went to enter the F4 in the Victorian Hot Rod Show but was declined due to the weight of the vehicle on the floor as the Royal Exhibition building is heritage listed.

I spose it is a TRUCK (not a Hot Rod )

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Rocket

Oooooooooo Bugger

You got that right. Though I can say I am getting great support from Cummins.

Originally Posted by Rocket

I spose it is a TRUCK (not a Hot Rod )

No the issue was with the heritage listing of the building not that it is a truck.

[Rocket]

Originally Posted by HOTFR8

No the issue was with the heritage listing of the building not that it is a truck.

YES, I can read too

I just could resist commenting on that one
(Victorian Hot Rod Show )

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Rocket

YES, I can read too

I just could resist commenting on that one
(Victorian Hot Rod Show )

Trust you.

Glad to hear I have also connected you with some one to help you with your LPG. Just think dual fuel As it only has to be a small petrol tank.

Will start pulling the Cummins apart Monday.

[Rocket]

Originally Posted by HOTFR8

Trust you.

Tee Hee!!

Glad to hear I have also connected you with some one to help you with your LPG. Just think dual fuel As it only has to be a small petrol tank.

He had some info, but none for dedicated GAS.
No duel fuel for me. (my build approval is for Gas only!)
I have found a few other contacts, though only rearly days.
I've done a fair bit of homework on injected Gas, but liquid, so that rules out a lot of people.
I still haven't ruled out going V8 Dieeeesel but that depends on what I find in the next few months.

Will start pulling the Cummins apart Monday.

oh! NO!!

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Rocket

Tee Hee!!

He had some info, but none for dedicated GAS.
No duel fuel for me. (my build approval is for Gas only!)
I have found a few other contacts, though only rearly days.
I've done a fair bit of homework on injected Gas, but liquid, so that rules out a lot of people.
I still haven't ruled out going V8 Dieeeesel but that depends on what I find in the next few months.

Well make up you mind will you as that paper work will not change over night from LPG to Diesel. I can see where Jaeson is coming from with his idea for dual fuel. An option would be bigger or dual LPG tanks.
A V8 Diesel You'll get more power from an inline turbo.
The old Cummins Advertising Quote -

"V8's are Great, But Six inlines Just Fine" - CUMMINS Advertising.

I think I have even converted Diesel Dave in WA to a true Diesel and none of this toy V8 stuff.

Originally Posted by Rocket

oh! NO!!

I am sure I will find something simple and if not then the Cummins is an easy motor to work on.

[Rocket]

Originally Posted by HOTFR8

Well make up you mind will you as that paper work will not change over night from LPG to Diesel. I can see where Jaeson is coming from with his idea for dual fuel. An option would be bigger or dual LPG tanks.

NO!!
you don't seem to understand
Rego would be totally different if I went for 'dual fuel'

A V8 Diesel You'll get more power from an inline turbo.
The old Cummins Advertising Quote -

"V8's are Great, But Six inlines Just Fine" - CUMMINS Advertising.

I would doubt that very much.
I've driven both turbo in lines & V8's in trucks & I can tell you, I'd rather an 8 anytime & thats not just for the true sound you get
(ever lit up the rears at an intersection on a bogie drive because you've just dropped the trailer off opps.......too much grunt

I think I have even converted Diesel Dave in WA to a true Diesel and none of this toy V8 stuff.

Toys??
Why don't ya get a grip.
I'm talking v8 truck motors, none of this ancy pants little donks like baby in line 6's

I am sure I will find something simple and if not then the Cummins is an easy motor to work on.

At least you've got the room under the hood because of the lack of Quibic Inches

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Rocket

NO!!
you don't seem to understand
Rego would be totally different if I went for 'dual fuel'

I do understand. So like I said just put bigger LPG tanks in it. Jaeson may not understand but I do.

Originally Posted by Rocket

Toys??
Why don't ya get a grip.
I'm talking v8 truck motors, none of this ancy pants little donks like baby in line 6's

Then you need to read something like Diesel Power Magazine to see how many Modifiy the Cummins THINK B.O.M.B. - Better Off Modified Baby.
Oh and I just love blowing those V8's away at the lights and I am doing that at present without the LPG injection.

Originally Posted by Rocket

At least you've got the room under the hood because of the lack of Quibic Inches

The Cummins just fits in place of the old sidevalve motor. Will most likely look at some changes whilst I am pulling the motor apart. Remote oil filters will be one idea that will allow for more room and help witl oil cooling. I even have some trick cleanable oil filters that will be used this time.

[Rocket]

Tee Hee!!
I knew youd have a come back..........but 3

Hope you work out the problems & it sounds like improvements are already happing.

Good luck!

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Rocket

Tee Hee!!
I knew youd have a come back..........but 3

Hope your work sorts out the problems & it sounds like improvements are already happing.

Good luck!

Thanks, looks like I am going to need it . Block does not look good and still have not found how the oil is getting into the radiator.

[HOTFR8]

Will be visiting Cummins tomorrow about another motor or building this one with a new block, they will also crack test the head.

Many of my issues now appear they can be refered back to one firm that has done work for me and that is on the LPG, Engine head and the Air Con system missing O rings. I had to get the Air Con gassed twice due to this mistake.

This time the Engine may get a lot more attention and plenty of dress up.

[HOTFR8]

This is how I would like the Cummins to look when finished this time.

May also end up going from a 6BT to a 6BTA. An increase from 150 to 180 Horse power.

[HOTFR8]

Will remove the block tomorrow.......Not going to post any sad looking photos but hope to post photos of the motor as it is replaced.

[HOTFR8]

Off to see Cummins with the block tomorrow. Hope to reuse most of my parts so have been busy getting them ready. Plenty of BLING this time.

[HOTFR8]

OK I did not plan to post photos but here is the result after removing the head.

Yes it has been sleeved and it looks like one of those sleeves was not installed correctly.
Still no idea why we had oil in the water and now looks like I will be setting up a new motor soon. I just hope the 6BTA will fit with out to many modifications.

[HOTFR8]

Ordered a NEW Cummins 6BT today and it will be ready for collection soon .

The old motor is history and not much use for anything a few problems have been found that should have been found when it was rebuilt. May just put it back together and sit it on the floor in the workshop as decoration.

The funny thing is now the new motor is a Chinese built Cummins
Makes me ask what would a Harley Davidson owner say if you told him his bike was built in China Anyway the new motor will be ready for me next week as it has to be converted from 24 volt and Industrial Specs to 12 volt and Automotive Specs. New motor has a few differences and the fact it is wastegated should be better. I have stuck with the 6BT as the 6BTA with the intercooler would not fit.

[HOTFR8]

I collect the new motor tomorrow. I will post photos again soon.

[HOTFR8]

OK, I have my brand new Dong Feng (East Wind) Cummins.


As you can see my Pro stock style sump is fitted as is my Stainless Steel air tube. Cummins changed the fuel injection for me to Auto Specifications instead of Stationery Engine Specifications. The new Engine is a brand new 2008 built motor and never been used. Still have to swap over my gearbox adaption and change a few other things as this one is slightly different with a waste gate etc. I hope to be back on the road by the end of January 2010.

[HOTFR8]

Fitted up now. Had to modify part of the block for the starter and modify the waste gate so as not to hit the brake master cyinder. Many other small changes have yet to take place after a full days work to put the new motor in. Some of the heater hoses will be relocated due to changes with this Engine. Air Con may be a small problem due to the new injection system. Luckily some of the old brackets etc. from the old motor can be bolted on and swapped over. Some of the wiring will also need to be updated so the new injection system will work.

After working on getting the Engine in yesterday I know what will be the next project and that may be extend the workshop or add a concrete apron outside the door as that Engine was not easy to move. Will also have to find out how to clean the concrete floor with all the oils stains.

[Plushy]

Simon try oven cleaner and water for the oil stains i use it all the time in my shed and it works a treat .

Sorry to hear about the motor but great new motor

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Plushy

Simon try oven cleaner and water for the oil stains i use it all the time in my shed and it works a treat .

Sorry to hear about the motor but great new motor

Thanks I will have to try that to clean the floor.

Hope to get the throttle linkage sorted out this week and rewire the new injection system some time after that.

[Plushy]

the oven cleaner also works on grease and old parts as well just try and use one that isn`t too caustic as the fumes can be pretty bad . I have also used oven cleaner to degrease a couple of flatheads and a couple of rover v8`s .

How does the new engine go with vicroads and the engineers seeing you have a increase in power ?

Do you know by any chance what a new 4bt is worth from cummins ? still thinking of using one in either the commer or the blitz rod

[Rocket]

Originally Posted by Plushy

the oven cleaner also works on grease and old parts as well just try and use one that isn`t too caustic as the fumes can be pretty bad . I have also used oven cleaner to degrease a couple of flatheads and a couple of rover v8`s .

How does the new engine go with vicroads and the engineers seeing you have a increase in power ?

Do you know by any chance what a new 4bt is worth from cummins ? still thinking of using one in either the commer or the blitz rod

Oh! NO!!

Not You TOO??

[Plushy]

Give in to the Cummins diesel Rod you know you want too !

Hows your shop truck going Rod ?

[Rocket]

Originally Posted by Plushy

Give in to the Cummins diesel Rod you know you want too !

Hows your shop truck going Rod ?

G'Day mate! How ya go'n??

I'd rather a V8 Diesel, but they are just waaaaaaaaaaaay too exspencive for me

We are still waiting on the front brake stuff to be done by Rod Tech, they are very much behind in their work, but seeing though Rod is doing it himself, I think I'll wait......... so the waiting game begins (I tried to phone them again today )
Once we know the final front track, we will attempt to spend a day a week on it (though we are extreeeeeemely busy atm a full shop with another car arriving in a week Ya don't know a good body man do you )
We really "need" to have it done NOW!, so maybe once we get going, I'll just have to find the $$ to keep it happening & get it finished. (my wife is sick of being left with the Rod to drive when I "steal" HER 4 wheel drive

I will update the thread when we get going on it again (my new apprentice is looking forward to "cutting his teeth" on it )

How are all your projects going??

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Plushy

the oven cleaner also works on grease and old parts as well just try and use one that isn`t too caustic as the fumes can be pretty bad . I have also used oven cleaner to degrease a couple of flatheads and a couple of rover v8`s .

How does the new engine go with vicroads and the engineers seeing you have a increase in power ?

Do you know by any chance what a new 4bt is worth from cummins ? still thinking of using one in either the commer or the blitz rod

OK, noted beware of caustic oven cleaners.

All I have to do is change the engine no with Vic Roads as basicaly it is the same motor (identical block) just built later.

4BT's are no longer made. Next motor of choice would be a new electronic ISB and believe me I have looked at one and decided it would not be the way to go due to the computer wiring required making it expensive as you can only buy them NEW at present. Given that you could still find a secondhand 4BT and have it rebuilt, just keep in mind what it comes out of as the injection system would be different for Auto than a Tractor, Fork lift or Gen set.

Originally Posted by Rocket

Oh! NO!!

Not You TOO??

Originally Posted by Plushy

Give in to the Cummins diesel Rod you know you want too !

Hows your shop truck going Rod ?

We will have to keep at him Plushy. One day he will Cummin from the dark.

[HOTFR8]

Stirred up some interest with Diesel Power Magazine with the photo of the New Engine on a crate as Cummins DO NOT do crate motors like that in the USA.

[Plushy]

Originally Posted by Rocket

How are all your projects going??

All my projects have stopped again i had a motorcycle accident before christmas a young p plater decided not to see me and pulled out in front of me so i T boned him doing 70 kays and hour so i am wainting to see a orthapedic surgeon to see if i need a shoulder reconstruction as i have smashed the rotator cuff in my left shoulder . So instead i have to watch everyone else having fun on there projects

Simon i reckon if we hassle him enough he will eventually give in

[HOTFR8]

Originally Posted by Plushy

All my projects have stopped again i had a motorcycle accident before christmas a young p plater decided not to see me and pulled out in front of me so i T boned him doing 70 kays and hour so i am wainting to see a orthapedic surgeon to see if i need a shoulder reconstruction as i have smashed the rotator cuff in my left shoulder . So instead i have to watch everyone else having fun on there projects

Bugger That does not sound like much fun, make the most of that time to follow up all the stuff on the net for your projects.

Originally Posted by Plushy

Simon i reckon if we hassle him enough he will eventually give in

Wait until I get the F4 going again and I can show him how we blow the doors off V8's. Delay at present for me is the throttle linkage as I will have to design a complete new system as the new injection system is reverse to the old engine and then fit up the cruise control etc. to work with it.