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Old 10-09-2007, 04:39 PM   #1
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Default Here are my tentative 40x60 shop plans....

The actual dimensions are 39'-5 1/2" x 60'-11" due to materials.

I hope these PDF's are viewable. I hac to rotate them so they'd be ledgible, so right is north (my house faces north, so the top of the page is south).

I can't put a rear door on it because the east and south walls will have a 4' retaining wall cut into the side of a hill. The side walls are 16'-6 1/6" to bottom of truss to get a 7' ceiling in the upstairs. The wood shop may end up being a machine shop if I end up swinging some deals on a lathe and mill. I'd then add on to the west side of the machine shop probably 24x24 and put in a single story wood shop with a 9x7 roll up door on the north and south walls with a man door to the north and into the machine shop. Although if I went two story with it, I could add onto the apartment/office upstairs and turn it into more of a gameroom/home theater room.



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Old 10-09-2007, 05:08 PM   #2
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Looks like a good plan. Interesting that you have 2 toilets, almost looks like you are planning for a doghouse area.
What is your plan for the hallway area? I remember my Dad telling me that hallways are just a waste of space. If you can plan with out one, then you gain more room.
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Old 10-09-2007, 05:28 PM   #3
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Default Re: Here are my tentative 40x60 shop plans....

Can you post a link to the images? Are they any bigger on the SuperMotors site? Sort of hard to make out text or details.
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Old 10-10-2007, 07:32 AM   #4
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Looks to me like it's going to be a real bitch doing a 180 turn to enter thru the roll up door and get to the lift. I'd move one of those "rooms" to the corner by the roll up door and put the lift on the far end. You could then drive almost straight in and out.
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:02 AM   #5
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Default Re: Here are my tentative 40x60 shop plans....

That's when you open up the doors to the paint booth, back in and then drive forward onto the lift. That will only be for oil changes and brake jobs anyway, most of the time, what ever ends up on the lift will be on wheel dollies. And it'll be verticle parking for my Mustang and Fairlane. The paint booth could also be utilized for temporary parking, it doubles as a wash bay as well.

Try this for the images PA,
http://www.supermotors.net/vehicles/...media/572603_1
http://www.supermotors.net/vehicles/...media/572604_1

If you can take a DWG file I can send the whole thing to you. I froze or erased quite a bit to make it more legible. You can also see all the different interations I've gone thru up to this point. I started out with a 30x50.

Not so much as a dog house, but an office/studio or maybe a little apartment in case someone comes to town and needs a place to stay or I also have a couple nephews going to the local college that could use it.

The hallway is indeed a waste of space, but it's only about 9' and I can use the wall space for a 4x8 dry erase board. I can plot out my instant center on my drag chassis or even use it for a list of tools loaned out. That whole room gets 2 layers of 5/8" firerock as well, I'm even considering a fire protection system in there as well. I could enlarge the wood shop as well, but I'm okay with it.
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Old 08-29-2009, 07:28 PM   #6
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can you send me your ACAD file.

I have version 14 and your shop is very similar to what i have been working on.

Most people have the main openings on the long side, I have a similar situation to you and have my main opening on the short end.
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Old 08-29-2009, 07:49 PM   #7
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how are you heating?
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Old 08-29-2009, 09:49 PM   #8
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Default Re: Here are my tentative 40x60 shop plans....

Larry that looks real nice, I wish I'd had room enough to build one around that size.

Do you have any exterior elevation drawings?

Is this going to be conventional (ie, stick built) construction?
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Old 08-30-2009, 08:28 AM   #9
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dflott, I'll contact you tomorrow.

Heating? I'm considering a all electric HVAC system that will heat and cool the woodshop, the upstairs 'apartment' and finally the paint booth area via some dampers that I can close off if I don't want to temper the area. The large area of the shop would probably be done with infrared (sp?) heaters. I'm in Oklahoma so it doesn't get uber cold here.

I can't remember if I have any elevations. The building would be sheathed with R-panel metal, the long side where the lift and paint booth, as well as the short side at the paint booth end would sit on a 4' retaining wall as that corner of the building would be underground due to my topography.

Now I'm thinking of going a different direction and building a 30x40 addition attached to my house next to my garage. That end of my house is 32', so the roofline would tuck up under the existing eave. I'd divide it up into three bays, the first bay closest to the house would have a 12' door and the lift. The second bay would have a 12' door front and back for a pull though into the backyard. The third bay would just be my tool and workbench area. I have drawings of that too.
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Old 08-31-2009, 12:32 PM   #10
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can you send me your ACAD file.

I have version 14 and your shop is very similar to what i have been working on.

Most people have the main openings on the long side, I have a similar situation to you and have my main opening on the short end.
I've got to thinking about this, I have hours and hours on this drawing and you just want me to send it to you?

.....your first post..... and you've contributed.....?
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Old 09-05-2009, 12:35 PM   #11
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Larry,

It is my first post because i just joined the forum not long ago. I have been looking for ideas for over a year, but had not came accross this website until recently.

I was using this forum to expedite my planning process, which is i think what most people use it for. I am sure along the way numerous people helped you as you went.

I did not plan on taking your drawing and profiting from it, it was the first one i had seen that is so close to my particular needs.
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Old 09-05-2009, 12:57 PM   #12
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I like everything except the placement of the lift. It would seem rather difficult to get a dead vehicle on there without a lot of maneuvering. Otherwise nice!
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Old 09-05-2009, 01:10 PM   #13
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I don't see any difference with this than say I had a bunch of SS header tubing pieces and flanges that I got for free and I built a set of equal length shorty small block headers for a car I was building and I posted pic of the build on a website. Then the project went away. You see the post and read where I wasn't using them anymore and you have a twin turbo project you're doing and you figure you can flip them 180 and mount turbo flanges where the collectors go after you cut them off and it will same you the time of building them yourself, you ask if you can have them?

There's a Arch/Eng firm here in OKC that you hire them to design a building for you, but after the project is over, they will NOT give you the CAD files, only PDF's. Reason being that they don't want you to hire someone else to do a project and be able to use the work that they had been paid for by you to begin with.

I've always been a very generous person, giving WAY more than I've gotten, even to the point that people I have given to are WAY better off than I am right now and reciprocation has not been forthcoming.

Besides, I looked at the drawing and it no longer even looks like that. It's still 40x60, but other than the exterior walls and doors staying the same as well as the location of the wall that divides the ends, the interior is no longer laid out like that and there is a full covered 'porch' along the top of that drawing. It has evolved past that point two years ago, and it is not built either.

I'm waffling between that design and a 30x40 addition to the end of my house next to the garage that will be attached to the house. First I have to figure out how to pay for it, then talk to my insurance company about which is better.
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Old 09-05-2009, 05:08 PM   #14
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Generally there are a lot of benefits in "stacking" your plumbing fixtures, rather than locating them in various places. Have you thought about where you will require hose bibbs?
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Old 09-05-2009, 10:13 PM   #15
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I'm a plumbing designer at an Engineering firm, the design dictated the plumbing locations. Plus the design shown was designed to be built in phases, all the fixtures upstairs are in a line so the waste runs down in the top exterior wall. Initially all that would have been built was the external walls and doors and the bathroom at the man door.

No external hose bibbs, one under the sink next to the man door, one in the washbay/paint booth. But again not sure this design gets built.
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1992 Festiva "Blackie", black (duh)
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