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Old 10-12-2007, 06:36 PM   #21
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I made a Home Depot run today.

Picked up 4 quarts of Rustoleum, a gallon of mineral spirits, and a couple of the foam rollers, as well as 2 gallons of chemical stripper (it was on clearance for TWO DOLLARS per gallon!)

I've got about 3 weeks to get this done and the cabinets set up before I have to start remodeling a bathroom, so I'll try to get one or two per night done.
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Old 10-12-2007, 06:39 PM   #22
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Mikey if they are not in bad shape then sand and paintt stripping will only make thte job longer and much more fun to do if you missed it see my other post on the bottom of page 2 no stripping on my cabinets just sand wipe down with laquer thinner and paint .

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Old 10-12-2007, 07:06 PM   #23
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There are some rust areas, but maybe I can get away with just sanding the rust away and feathering it so it's still a smooth surface.
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Old 10-12-2007, 08:40 PM   #24
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The only down side to Rust-O-Leum is the drying time is days as opposed to the Van Sickle brand tractor paint sold by Tractor Supply; it has a much shorter drying time than the Rust-O-Leum brand and everything you can do with Rust-O-Leum you can do with Van Sickle. I have used em both and Van Sickle is better to work with and looks just as good dry!
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:10 AM   #25
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The closest Tractor Supply to me is approximately 3 hours away.
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Old 10-13-2007, 08:32 AM   #26
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Van Sickle tractor paint available at Tractor Supply Company; if that is not to your liking any oil based enamel available would do nicely. Sand and prep to your liking prior to painting.
Glad to see a suggestion for Van Sickle. I've never used it myself, but just ordered a qt. by mail to paint my new access door. They were the only place I could find that offered Sinclair Green!

No TSC store near by? Order by phone from these folks...very friendly and helpful. Paint arrived in 3 days. This is their special matched colors page (I bought #23!), but you can go HOME from there. Actually, they'll refer you to their distributor, P&R Supply in Dodge City, KS. (800-279-1770) who I actually ordered from. (FYI - AG Spectialties and Van Sickle are the same company, just different marketing names).

http://www.agspecialty.com/specmtch.htm

Another option for folks who can't spray paint to consider...contact paper! I know what you are thinking, but check it out. It's vinyl like properties can make it easy to work with, and clean fingerprints from. It's incredibly forgiving, and has been on my cabinets (below) for over 10 years. Decent price too. Work on them at your leisure, do one cabinet or door at a time, no mixing/thinning or spraying. Easy to do in an attached garage (like these are) because there are no fumes. All you need is a sharp utility knife and some clean cabinets. I just bought 6 rolls of black and white checkered contact paper (on sale for 1/2 price at a Rite Aid going out of business sale) for the interior shelves of the old kitchen cabinets I'm putting in the new garage.





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Old 10-13-2007, 10:40 PM   #27
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MXtras I am using the same rattle can as you to paint a small metal piece. I found the spray looks nice for a rattle can.

I put on one coat and plan to put another tomorrow. I am having the problem with uneven gloss on one of them was wondering why.
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:21 PM   #28
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PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE!!!!

Here's what I started with



And here I am after getting down the first coat with the foam roller and spraycan method.



I'm probably going to ditch the roller and go and get myself a little spray gun, it'll make it go much quicker.
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:43 PM   #29
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Hey looks good I love that blue. is that the rustoleum professional?

HF has a gun on sale now for $20
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=43430

didn't know you have quite so much cabinets there, definitely spray it
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:53 PM   #30
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No, it's not professional, it's the plain old oil based white can rustoleum stops rust.

Those pictures make it look a lot brighter than it is, it's actually Royal blue and not the Sail Blue
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Old 10-16-2007, 12:14 AM   #31
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The blue I have used (Sail blue) actually ages to a slightly less bold color. When newly finished paint is set beside something painted a few months ago, the colors look completely different - enough to make you check the can, but the new one will slowly age to the same exact color after a week or so. Don't be alarmed.

Poorguy - the difference in gloss you are experiencing is likely from different build thickness. When bomb-canning, you have to look at the shine from an angle as the paint is being applied - a typical can of Rustoleum only sprays a decent gloss in the central 3"-4" of the pattern when held about 8" away. The rest of the pattern is applying paint, but not at the same rate, therefore the gloss on the outer edges of the apparent pattern will likely have a little texture. Overlap the good patterns and angle the can just a tad in a direction that uses the 'overspray' to mist onto an unpainted surface - not back over what you just sprayed. It will likely melt in even if you do, but on larger or more complicated pieces, finding a good starting and stopping point can be a pain.

Either that or just roll it - like Mike-v did. His cabinets look like they are coming out really, really well. Nice job!

That little HF gun is a decent buy, I think. Pick up two of them if they go on sale - it's handy to have a spare for 'just in case'. Especially at that price. Just make sure you have dry air. The spray pattern of those guns is a lot better than a spray can, that's for sure. Not as good as it could be, but pretty darned good for what it is.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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Old 10-16-2007, 12:33 AM   #32
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Thinning out the paint with some mineral spirits helped a lot as well, but damned if it didn't bubble a LOT when I first put it on with the foam roller.

For 20 bucks though, it's hard to NOT go and get that HF gun.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:32 AM   #33
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Another thing to consider is what the existing paint is. A lot of the old kitchen cabinets got overcoated with cheap latex house paint over the years.

If you apply an oil based paint over it, it may bubble or worse.

I did a set of uppers a couple of weeks ago that were predominately white, but I was not sure of the type pf paint on them. I hit them with a DA for a few minutes to scuff them up.

The paint did not ball up like latex would, so I wiped them down with mineral spirits and sprayed with some thinned Rustoleum Smoke Gray.

They came out acceptably nice, but I am not really a big fan of spraying Rustoleum. I used it because I had it, but have had better results with Devoe industrial enamels or some of the tractor paints.
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Old 10-16-2007, 09:37 PM   #34
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...but I am not really a big fan of spraying Rustoleum. I used it because I had it, but have had better results with Devoe industrial enamels or some of the tractor paints.
There are better spraying paints, for sure, but it's hard to beat the convenience - the paint is readily available and reasonably durable.

Good point about the latex, too.

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Old 06-30-2008, 01:02 AM   #35
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Sheesh. Talk about a return from the dead post! Last October!?

Well, a bathroom remodel, new windows in the house, and a whole heap of other stuff got in the way of getting the cabinets finished up until recently. After getting the first couple finished (shown previously in the thread) I actually ended up changing my mind on the color. Still Rustoleum, but I went with the deep blue hammered finish instead of the royal blue. Little darker, and I actually like the hammer finish because it hides imperfections and it's easy to touch up - just spraybomb it!

Okay, on to the picture. I am waiting on the top still, I think I'm going to use 16ga galvanized steel and splurge on the little stick on diamond plate baseboard for the toekicks on the cabinets.

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Old 06-30-2008, 06:35 AM   #36
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Nice ! Love that blue.
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mikev, the cabinets look GREAT!

What method did you decide on for applying the paint?
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Old 06-30-2008, 10:51 AM   #38
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mikev, the cabinets look GREAT!

What method did you decide on for applying the paint?
Spraybomb
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Old 06-30-2008, 11:43 AM   #39
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Spraybombs! That's an amazing job. I estimate 14 cans minimum for the exposed areas we see (none between cabinets joined together, the backside or any inside), am I close? I have been tempted to buy one of the trigger handles to use on spray cans but haven't yet. If I had a job that size a trigger handle would top the list of items to get. Very Nice!
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Spraybombs! That's an amazing job. I estimate 14 cans minimum for the exposed areas we see (none between cabinets joined together, the backside or any inside), am I close? I have been tempted to buy one of the trigger handles to use on spray cans but haven't yet. If I had a job that size a trigger handle would top the list of items to get. Very Nice!
it was a whole lot of spray cans

Oh, the trigger handles TOTALLY SUCK! I tried using one for 1/2 of a can and it failed miserably -- it doesn't press the nozzle straight down, it depresses in an arc so the nozzle is pushed down AND back, creating a bunch of gigantic gobs of paint instead of a halfway decent spray pattern.
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