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Old 02-18-2012, 06:20 PM   #21
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All of my pliers are NWS and I recently purchased the Knipex pliers wrench and the Raptor. Overall, I think the quality of the NWS are better, but they don't make anything comparable to the pliers wrench, so I have both on my board.
NWS does make a model that is very similar to the Knipex plier wrench. NWS calls them PowerMax fittings pliers. They are model #'s 166K-42-250 and 166K-49-250.
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Old 02-18-2012, 06:33 PM   #22
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ricleh -

I have those. They are nice pliers and good for not marking fittings, but they lack the self ratcheting action. At least, i haven't been able to do it quite as well on the NWS as the Knipex, its a different geometry.
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Old 02-18-2012, 07:02 PM   #23
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I have NWS, Knipex, channellock.... All have their good points. Knipex plier wrench and Cobra are better than NWS offerings IMO. OTOH, for everything else, I like NWS over Knipex. NWS Fantastico is the most awesome cutter ever . For general pliers- needle nose, side cutter, etc, NWS seems to have better machining, fit and finish than both Knipex and Channellock. If you look at the bent tip needlenose, the NWS jaws meet absolutely perfectly, Knipex does not, Channellock is not even close. Knipex wins on selection.
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Old 02-18-2012, 10:17 PM   #24
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I figured this thread could use a couple photos. As you can tell I'm an NWS fan, although Knipex is a very good tool.
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Old 02-18-2012, 10:44 PM   #25
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I figured this thread could use a couple photos. As you can tell I'm an NWS fan, although Knipex is a very good tool.
Are those Quattrogripp pliers self-locking like the Knipex Cobra?
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Old 02-18-2012, 10:53 PM   #26
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No they are not. I've been wavering on spending some bucks picking up the Cobras, just to compare, but I'm not a pro, so these tools work way better than I do
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Old 02-19-2012, 08:11 AM   #27
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Steve_P, you wrote that your Channellock bent tip needle nose pliers don't line up anywhere "even close." I just purchased a set of Channellock #386 5 1/2" bent tip needle nose pliers, and they line up perfectly. Which model do you have?
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Old 02-19-2012, 08:15 AM   #28
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Steve_P, you wrote that your Channellock bent tip needle nose pliers don't line up anywhere "even close." I just purchased a set of Channellock #386 5 1/2" bent tip needle nose pliers, and they line up perfectly. Which model do you have?
I wonder the same thing. Knipex and NWS are better than Channellock. I own some of all 3, but I have a lot of Channellock and the jaws ALWAYS have great alignment. I have had different defects sometimes like stiff joints (on the pliers, lol), poor finishing on the outer edges, but never misaligned jaws.
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Old 02-19-2012, 08:29 AM   #29
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sorry guys, busy yesterday. Here is my modest Knipex collection (sorry for bad picture). I will try and get a better one. Great discussion thx for input.


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Old 02-19-2012, 08:38 AM   #30
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They're both at the higher end of pliers for sure. Either one will do you just fine. Picking out the small differences between the two is just being picky I think. Not really much concern to me, really. But I'd still like to see exactly what the differences are.. they appear to be pretty darn close from over here.
I guess the main question I am asking is if say NWS has better diagonal cutters where Knipex might have better cobra style pliers.

Who prefers what tool from what brand? Or specialty must have pliers like the raptors?
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Old 02-19-2012, 08:47 AM   #31
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When you start comparing Knipex and NWS your hooked, and hooked deep, just buy some you know you will eventually. Maybe start with the Fantastico cutters?
Ok the Fantasticos have been added to the list. Which is the best model?
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Old 02-19-2012, 08:57 AM   #32
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Ok the Fantasticos have been added to the list. Which is the best model?
I have these cutters from NWS and I can tell you they are amazing. Knipex came out with some new cutters called TwinForce or something like this. I haven't seen any reviews but I can tell you that a lot of Knipex cutters are rated harder (HRC) than NWS, but not sure how much of that translates into being better.

http://shop.nws-tools.de/index.php/e...utter-152.html
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Old 02-19-2012, 12:50 PM   #33
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I figured this thread could use a couple photos. As you can tell I'm an NWS fan, although Knipex is a very good tool.
very nice NWS collection !!!
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Old 02-19-2012, 09:19 PM   #34
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Thanks Monte, I found out about NWS from one of your threads.
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Old 02-20-2012, 07:22 AM   #35
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some more pics maybe they help making a decision ?

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Old 02-20-2012, 07:41 AM   #36
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I have just received my collection of NWS pliers cutters etc, I have issues which I will not discuss or show yet, as I'm still corresponding with the supplier, but will shortly, if someone could post a pic of their Fantastico's fully opened, front and rear it would be appreciated and very helpful.
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Old 02-20-2012, 08:08 AM   #37
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I have just received my collection of NWS pliers cutters etc, I have issues which I will not discuss or show yet, as I'm still corresponding with the supplier, but will shortly, if someone could post a pic of their Fantastico's fully opened, front and rear it would be appreciated and very helpful.
Hope the issue gets resolved fast -- great product from both companies. Love my Fantasticos.
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Old 02-20-2012, 08:16 AM   #38
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Hope the issue gets resolved fast -- great product from both companies. Love my Fantasticos.
Hey!, thanks cobber, those pic's are just what I needed to see (maybe a bit more flash for your pic's) , no rust or so called plating issues for you by the looks of things

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Old 02-20-2012, 06:41 PM   #39
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re NWS plating, their chrome finish is not much plating; Knipex's chrome plating has a much better finish. NWS plating is very minimal. On my Fantasticos with chrome finish, when you open the pliers, you see only nickel on the hidden areas when they're closed. This may be with rj oz alludes to.

re my channellock bent tip needlenose comments, I don't know the model, they probably only have one, but look at Monte's pic on NWS- the channellock faces in my pliers do not align like those NWS- which mine duplicate
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Old 02-20-2012, 08:14 PM   #40
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Hey Monte, what do those Knipex crimpers run???

I think they are spendy, not sure!
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