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Old 04-22-2012, 09:55 PM   #1
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Default 1966 F100 EcoBoost Engine Swap & 1966 427 Project

I had a couple requests in another post to show my EcoBoost project so thought I would start another thread.


I love the 65-66 Ford body style and have since my Dad pulled into the drive way back in October 1965 with a brand new Red/Red 1966 F100 352 w a 3spd on the column.

A few months back found a near twin to my dad's from back in october 1965.
He gave me the truck in fall of 1984 and I sold it when I moved to Phx back in January 1986 for a measly 100.00 because I could not afford to take it with me.

Replacement truck 2012 300.00 ! AZ truck to boot.

I have 5 65-66 Trucks and thought it would be nice to have something other than a gas guzzling FE powered one that I could take on trips and use as a daily driver with a few late model comforts like A/C in the Arizona Heat.

I did very little research and measurements because if I found too much negative for doing the swap I probably would not have attempted it.

Only thing I did research ahead of time was the wheelbases possible on the EcoBoost. Knowing my truck was a 129" wheelbase and the shortest EcoBoost F150 was 145" I had my work cut out for me any way you slice it.

I thought about doing a 5.0L Coyote engine but seemed there were too many people already doing those swaps and Ford had a harness avail to do so.

So It was decided to search for a possible donor of a F250 with a 6.7L Power Stroke or a 3.5L Twin Turbo F150

March 28th I picked up a 2011 F150 EcoBoost that was hit hard in rear.

The search had been ongoing since the beginning of March to find a suitable donor EcoBoost to swap into one of my 66 F Series Trucks.

I was able to find many wrecked EcoBoost trucks across the country and bid on a half dozen or so. Difficult to find close by that were not wrecked in front end as most were.

This is the truck I found:





This truck happened to be a SuperCab with a 145" wheelbase. Because I wanted everything up in front was not that concerned about back sheetmetal or frame section knowing I needed little of it other that the rear axle assy. This one a 3.15 geared 9 3/4" was toast from the hard rear hit.

April 7th I started to tear apart my '66 Truck to see if this was even possible.

I pulled the cab and moved it aside. I then pulled the cab off the 2011 Eco so I could use that chassis to check fit under the 1966.

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Old 04-22-2012, 10:03 PM   #2
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Yes this will be a very interesting. Need lots of pictures if possible. Thanks for starting this thread.
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:07 PM   #5
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This Silver EcoBoost had only 6430 Miles on the clock when purchased.

The owners manual, Window Sticker etc were found in glove box!
along with original purchase invoice.

Original price was 34,200.00, I picked it up for less than 10% of that.

Seeing as though I have done very few cars that were not Nut~Bolt type restorations thought it would be a nice change to do something that could really test my abilities and way beyond yet not break the bank doing so.

My food for thought was;

A neat FE with a few mods like a crank kit, rods pistons etc, a bit of machine work, a set of edelbrock aluminum heads and a Performer RPM intake and a carb would set me back 5500.00 if I built it myself. Only to get a measly 10-13mpg tops, the truck had a 4:10 gear so if I wanted something else it could mean a Gear Vendors overdrive for another 3200.00. So that is 8500.00 and I still do not have a transmission yet and big bucks for the resto of suspension including updated brakes etc.

I felt even though it seemed big bucks the late model swap would save me a bunch of money in the end.

I could easily spend 20k in building the truck and still have a gas guzzler that I already owned 4 of.

At this point & 2wks into the build am pretty hopefull I can make this work. If not I can turn it into a sand rail of sorts and have fun that way as the basic cab of 2011 is still intact.

Here I start to dig into the 1966.







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Old 04-22-2012, 10:15 PM   #6
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Absolutely AWESOME! Good luck with the project. If you have a Sand Rail also just make it swappable into the Rail. You could use all of the peripherals and just swap it over when you wanted to. You could get 2 Wiring Harnesses and it would be pretty to swap.
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:17 PM   #7
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Wow That was fast! Thanks!

English was not one of my better school classes so it may seem a bit bunched together. My brain and fingers do not work well together... LOL One is always ahead of the other.

I did purchase a decent camera so I could photo document and video as I go along.


Here is the mangled mess of sheet metal I bought.

I had to cut off the rear section of truck in order to get it off trailer as it was loaded on with a forklift. A portion of left bedside had to be cut off as it was sticking out so far to be road legal on the trailer. A purchased cordless sawzall did the trick as I was 700 miles from home.











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Old 04-22-2012, 10:17 PM   #8
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that is an awesome idea...defintely will follow this
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:24 PM   #9
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Anxiously waiting to see how fit would be I rolled the wounded 2011 chassis under the '66 Cab. Much to my amazement the '66 to '11 body mounts were in proper location! 46yrs apart . . . Using the '11 mounts on '11 chassis it dropped into place, except for of course the rear of cab on the '66 was too narrow so I just kept tail of frame down to double check fit and proper centerline of front axle into wheel opening.
Also note the steering column of '66 was right in line with the '11!






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Old 04-22-2012, 10:30 PM   #10
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To help things out I picked up the entire shop manual set for the '11 Eco along with the Wiring supplement and a CD/DVD.

I found a set of brand new take off 2012 F150 Lariat wheels with caps for 1/2 price of a single wheel less cap!

Actually today stopped by costco to check on tires and found I will probably go with a 255/55R18 Tire, decent rubber with a little lower sidewall than the stock
265/60R18's.





I installed a fender to check wheel opening with cab in place.




The light blue truck is one I almost used but paid big bucks for a nice original AZ truck and thought I would be better suited to use the 300.00 special. Maybe on the next one..

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I may have missed it, are you trying to repair and use the Eco boost frame?
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Yea I was wondering the same thing?
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Will be following this with interest. Great project.
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Glad you went with a ecoboost, I do not think a 6.7 PS would fit. This is going to be an awesome build. Subscribed!!!!!
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Before I had a chance to explain what I am trying to accomplish I lost my internet connection right in the middle of a post. Turned out the Ethernet cord went south.

I started this project 2wks ago on saturday. The initial plan was to just drop in the ecoboost engine and trans. Problem is there is not a standalone harness avail for the ecoboost yet. I spoke to a Ford engineer nearly a year ago and was promised they would have one out in approx 1yr. Well a couple weeks ago the update was: It will be at least another year yet and they plan on doing a ecoboost harness for swaps but its possible the 2.0 or 1.6 eco engines could have a harness first.

What make this complicated is the type of injectors used for the direct injection. Knowbody makes a harness and what is required is most of electronics as the F150 has Securilock anti theft and a bunch of other crap in order to make truck even start. This truck has the upgraded instrument cluster so it would be an issue unless everything is up and working.

So my plan simply changed because I did not want to give up on project as really love the eco engines.

Once I found that the engine position in chassis was going to work and cab spot was close with stock mounts I then decided that maybe I could install the 2011 dash into the '66 cab to make it a plug and play. Problem with that the '11 cab is HUGE in length and height compared to the '66. The '11 seats I planned on using would nearly touch the ceiling in he '66 cab and just looked too far out of place. Remember the '11 Eco only has 6430 miles on it so the interior was pretty much mint and not damaged with exception of the side air bags. Seat and dash bags did not deploy making this a good candidate for the swap.

I found that the 5.0L Trucks were avail in a 125.9" wheelbase so it got my brain turning that maybe I could just pick up another frame. Using my frame stretcher to get it to fit my 129" Wheelbase '66.

I took a HUGE chance and ordered a NEW 5.0L Frame from Ford as the only thing in partsbook was wheelbase and did not mention engine size. I figured if I had to I could just use the mounts off the original frame and already had them just in case.

In the mean time I removed the floor out of the '11 thinking it would be best to use that so the dash, HVAC etc would be a direct bolt in.

A lot to say here and this will take a bit of time to catch up on whats been done so far and where I hope this is going.

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When I looked at my other 4 65-66 trucks I found the front wheels seemed to be 1" farther forward that what looked correct. I figured a 1" there and somehow 2" gain in rear by moving springs or lengthening frame I could get there. Thats when I ordered the frame. The new frame came in this past wednesday! Only to find it was all faded out and had obviously been sitting outside for quite some time even though the date on frame was october 9th of 2011 the same month the truck was built!

Of course crossmembers, cab mounts etc were i n a different location from the supercab frame.

Prior to the new frame showing I drilled all the spotwelds and cut the firewall and floor pan out of the '11 to see if that was a viable option to install it in the'66 cab.

Because the '66 cab frame opening in back was only 41" and the '11 frame was just under 46" wide at back of cab it was back to the drawing board. The '66 frame is 34" wide.

A few pics of '11 floor pan and firewall in place on '11 chassis with '66 cab overhead to check for possible grafting together.





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as one can see the firewall of '11 is way farther forward to accommodate the HUGE '11 dash, electronics and HVAC.

The '11 dash weighs in at a hefty 150lbs. Just a plug and play module with a few bolts holding it in place.

I then did a temp install of the '11 dash into the '66 cab after a quick measurement told me it was within 1/2" or so in width.

Drilling out what seemed like another gazillion spot welds I did a trial fit of the '11 dash into the '66 cab. This is what it looked like.






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In order for the HUGE '11 dash to fit or even part of it as I need pretty much all the electronics the '11 firewall would have to be added to the '66 cab. It being approx 8-9" further forward than the stock '66 firewall. Another hurdle.

Because when I did the temp fit of '11 dash and found it was way too deep even when 4" shy of being in correct position it was another curve ball in hoping for windshield wipers and defroster ducts. Both a must have.

This is going to add some serious weight to the truck but I would rather have it heavier and working than waiting for someone to make a standalone harness over the next few years. This could be a total failure but some how some way hope to make it happen and do not plan on giving up that easily.

The satisfaction of taking this around the block for 1st time driving on its own will be a awesome accomplishment. Getting to be a old fart so need to keep the brain active somehow.

As long as I can keep the motivation factor up and not let the snags get to me I will be ok. At this time am much more excited about this project than any other I can remember.

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A few of '11 teardown and what that dash fit like.

Also the '11 windshield is 35" heigh vs 21 or so on the '66. That makes the cowl area on the '11 with tons of room and also the '11 wiper assy fits in cowl in front of windshield. Completely unknown at this time how I will adapt wipers to this project. Arm out window with rag seems to be viable for now.

Because the '11 cab is so much taller inside it makes for more dash room. I may end up just making new dash of metal for '66 and installing components from the '11. This is a plan as I go project. I relate it to making plans written on sand @ beach on a windy day. The plan gets erased and you start over often. Eventually the winds will die down I hope! LOL





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A few random pics. Note the size of HVAC unit that has to fit behind the HUGE dash.

I told myself I this truck does not have A/C here in the ARIZONA heat I am no longer interested. Wiper's I can live without but not A/C as its already reached 100deg here and its only April!









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To save $$ I plan on using as many parts from the '11 as possible. Pretty much to learn. If I build another it will be to see how much weight I can take out and more of a performer than one that rides quiet etc.

Also interesting is I plan on using Quiet Steel in the firewall to minimize the noise in cab. It will be up to the 50yr old door rubber design and shape of cab to determine wind noise which will probably be pretty loud. At least engine noise and road noise will be quieter than in '66.

Here is the new 2012 Standard Cab Short Bed chassis under the '66 cab with the '11 floor installed for a test fit. This is pretty much catching up with where I am at with this project. Updates as they happen.

Note the new rear axle housing and new leaf spring. Still waiting on the new rear suspension parts so I can assemble the chassis.










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You got it jabberwoki! More to come and real soon . . .

Adam neat project.

Back in 1996 (the last time I dove deep) I bought a brand new 1996 Ranger Step side super cab in plain white then dropped in a supercharged 5.0. Had a bit of fun with the OBDII but was a fun project. This one is a bit deeper than that. The ranger had 2040 miles on it when i dropped in the 5.0L. I am hoping to match the MPG of 25-26 with the ranger with this one. Do not think it will be an issue?

The B A R E 2011 standard cab short box frame is 520lbs! OUCH . . . This truck will be heavier than a stock '66 by far. Not initially what I wanted but so be it.

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Can you retrofit the new dash components into the old dash? That might be a slicker (and easier) install. Just my 2 cents... Looking good!
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A bit more of plan in works but unknown how much of this I can really make happen.

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A total high tech 1966

Things I plan on integrating into this project:

HVAC

Easy Fuel Capless Filler System

Fail-Safe Cooling

Fully Boxed Hydroformed Frame

Electronic Power Steering

Tire Pressure Monitoring System

Built in Trailer Sway Control

4-wheel Disc Brakes w/ABS

Advancetrac w/Stability Control

Steering wheel and Pass AirBags

Quiet Steel Firewall

Power Adjustable Pedals (fly by wire)

Sync Voice Activated Systems

Navigation System

Satellite Radio

26 Gallon Fuel tank for those 650 mile trips without stopping for fuel

YAW sensors with steering input that is part of Roll Control

Power Seats

Unknown if I will adapt the '11 power windows, door locks etc.

This is just a dream but will see how much of it I can integrate into this truck.
If its going to be heavy I may as well have creature comforts right?

I am hoping it will be between 500-1000lbs lighter than the stock SC '11 Eco.

I also plan on installing a Traction Loc unit in the rear and keeping the stock
3.15 gearing and 33 spline axles.

Towing capacity should be around 9000lbs with a bumper pull.

Brakes will be 14" + front and rears 13.75" Rotors

Tires will be 255/55R18 and wheels the stock Lariat 7.5x18

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Wow that's an awesome build!

A double thanks for showing the F150 as you strip it out. I drive a 2011 Ecoboost so I love the "behind the scenes" shots of the F150 as you disassemble it.
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Can you retrofit the new dash components into the old dash? That might be a slicker (and easier) install. Just my 2 cents... Looking good!

Simply not much room.

The '66 dash is approx 11" and the '11 is 15" plus another 1' for HVAC

I agree maintaining the '66 dash would be much better looking.

If I can somehow get it all to fit in the '66 dash with working A/C then yes but at this time does not look possible.

That would be my goal to have all this in the '66 dash.

Will see where the next couple weeks brings this project.

I need to see how and if the '11 floor, firewall, HVAC is going to fit.
I do not want to buy an aftermarket HVAC for 1500.00 when this one is free. Then I do not have such a mix n match of parts just 1966 & 2011.

Even if I have to compromise on what I really want to use to save $$ since I have the entire '11 truck on hand.

Next up is fitting the '66 Cab to chassis to find firewall location etc. I have started the cut of back of '66 cab to fit the chassis. Goal is to make it look like it belongs that way. All metal finished of course...

Rear cab mounts I think I may have figured out by moving the cab mount from outside of frame to inside.

Another issue is the height of frames from '66 to '11. I do not want much if any of the frame to show when looking from the side. I need to section the cab to do that. Exact location unknown. If the floor is raised it will even make for less room for the '11 dash.

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Wow that's an awesome build!

A double thanks for showing the F150 as you strip it out. I drive a 2011 Ecoboost so I love the "behind the scenes" shots of the F150 as you disassemble it.
Thanks for your interest!

Sure learning a lot about the 2011-12 F150's! Pretty much taken completely apart at this time.

I have 3 trucks torn apart right now so what a MESS! not much for elbow room in such a small garage. Getting too hot for much outside work.

This is where I am at right now with cab mod in back. Frame no fit but a little massaging should do it.

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This is amazing. I'm learning a hell of a lot just from your thread. I had a custom S10 that I slammed about 10 years ago (working with my Dad) but that's nothing compared to what you're undertaking.
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Wow!!! I am impressed and I am subscribed. If I were closer I'd be over to help you out all I could. It sure looks like it's going to be a fantastic project.

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Another big fan of what you're doing- and another subscriber!

As it gets spread around the 'net this thread may be destined for the Guinness book as the most-subscribed EVER!

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Holy crap. Thats a huge undertaking, but it ought to be amazing when finished!
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I am doing a 62 unibody currently but this tread is awesome. The ecoboost is an amazing engine and putting it in a slick is great.
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I will try not to disappoint. I was a little hesitant to post this build here not knowing how it would blow over.

Just got a call from friends stuck in Flagstaff that had a sparkplug blow out on a 5.4L F150 so gotta do a rescue.

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Very interesting project! I have a '66 F-100 myself, and while I like it a lot they were pretty primitive compared to today's trucks. It will be interesting to see if you can get everything to fit - space inside the cab looks like it will be at a premium with the late model dash installed.
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Considering that the factory HVAC seems to be the major obstacle...

Is configuring the required OEM '11 electronics into the '66 dash and then adding a Vintage Air AC unit out of the question?
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I was without a shop for nearly a year... Just trying to make up for it I guess.

I am really torn between this project and the one not quite completed yet.
It was a near 40yr dream truck now this one seems to be taking over.

A bit of reading material for those with extra time . . . LOL

I was just prepping to get back on this build when I had the silly notion to start the EcoBoosted project.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=595366

Wife said ok, you can buy the ecoboost but no buying parts unless you sell some of your STUFF!

I put my Semi Tractor (long story will tell later) up for grabs and it sold a day or less later








I then put my car hauler up for sale as will not need to haul projects home for a while.. LOL

It sold in a couple weeks time.








I am hoping I do not have to sell any of my old trucks to keep going.

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I'm in. Awesome build. I'm a big fan of slicks. They are my favorite body style too. I've got a 90 F350 4x4 diesel that I would love to put a 65 or 66 body onto but it's so far down my list of projects that it will never happen.

It takes a lot of skill to do what your are doing. My hat's off to you sir.
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Very neat project. Trying to use that Ecoboost engine and all the electronics is a major undertaking. Using the fiewall and floor of the donor with your old cab is a good idea, but a lot of work. Nice work so far, look forward to seeing more.
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ra, have you seen the SN65 build? Similar to your project somewhat.

http://www.sn65.com/SN65%20presentaion.htm
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There is a guy over on Pro-touring.com doing a similar build with a '70's Torino and late model Cobra Mustang. Kicker is he is doing two builds, both the same. Search for twintorino.
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This is the coolest thread that I've seen in a while on any of my forums......keep the updates coming!!!
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It is still unknown exactly how this is going to play out with wipers, HVAC and so much more. Until I can actually get floor pan located along with firewall I am really just shooting in the dark here. Its just too difficult to try to measure or for me to exactly visualize how it will all work.

My brain is for sure on overload . . . A lot of excitement yet not knowing as there are no real plans. Its whatever fits together without spending Big$$.

I did flip the '11 dash over and it looks like I could remove a few things and tighten things up a bit and it possible but not too probable to get the '11 components into the 66 Dash.

A bunch of pre-fitting is in order. I do not have any type computer program to help me out either its all trial and error.

A very lofty goal I know but would hope to have it at SEMA this fall.

Ford dealer called and said some more parts came in.

In order to get the rear wheels centered in box wheelhouse I am now thinking to move the wheel opening so then I can just go to Ford and get a stock driveshaft and anything else down the road will be a bolt in and not a one off custom. Just little subtle tweaks here and there.

So when time allows this week hope to get the cab modified and set in place on chassis, locate firewall and see how it looks. I may tear apart the entire dash assy too just to see if I can get the components to fit in stock 66 dash. Once the firewall is in place and the FoMoCo HVAC is sitting in place I will have a better idea.

Initially I had hoped on moving the Eco Engine back in chassis a bunch but if I want some comforts of home it will not be possible.

This week should be very interesting indeed!

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http://www.sn65.com/SN65%20presentaion.htm

Do not recall ever seeing that car. Looks like a neat job though!

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Considering that the factory HVAC seems to be the major obstacle...

Is configuring the required OEM '11 electronics into the '66 dash and then adding a Vintage Air AC unit out of the question?
Actually with the install of '11 firewall the factory HVAC will be a 5 minute job to install. Its all plug and play using stock lines etc. The heater hoses are even plug and play with no clamps needed.

see post 56.

Vintage Air does not make a direct fit only universal for this truck. I would prefer the stock ford A/C unit and of course not having to spend a single dime vs 1500.00 for the Vintage Unit.

Its once the stock HVAC is in place trying to get the rest to fit.

With the truck having SYNC I can tell it what temp I wanted & would not be able to do that with the Vintage Unit.

In a big $$ World I would have built my own chassis and had a real plan. The big snag is with no standalone computer/harness avail I have to add things I would not have wanted. But once the weight is there it changed my tune to having a lot of creature comforts.

Time is also a biggie to get this going. I really want to finish my other project soon. Its just that once I got into this one I cannot stop . . . Too exciting to be able to retire my 7.3L truck and use this for my daily driver and tow rig.

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My 1st time doing a sectioning like this but think it will work out well.

In order to get the proper clearance for the frame I had to widen the opening on back of cab.

Because I wanted a stock appearing opening I decided to just cut out a 3 1/4" piece out of back. Cutting left side first I could have saved a step by using the piece I cut out to add back to top to fill a gap. As the lower curvature is the same as top and did not realize that until after the cut. Using a basic cut-off wheel on a die grinder the cuts were made.

I had a cheap self leveling laser from when I painted stripes on the garage wall so used that to make everything square.

I have now gone from a 41" opening to a 47 1/2" opening with a few simple cuts. I will get this welded up then trial fit the cab to get my proper firewall and floor location. The '11 eco floor has also been cut to fit within the rockers of the '66 cab. Lets hope it works! LOL

A photo series of how I made these cuts. I am hoping to metal finish the back of cab so no bondo will be needed. Will see about that . . .

Edit: 2/19/13

All the file numbers are messed up so am just including all how I went about doing the mod to cab to fit new frame. A laser was used to get everything straight.
































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"I put my Semi Tractor (long story will tell later) up for grabs and it sold a day or less later"

I wanted to give a quickie explanation on this Semi Tractor.

A year ago I sold my house in Washington. The bid to move my stuff less cars was 38,000.00 to Phoenix. OUCH! Another 1500.00 per vehicle and I had 5 extra vehicles. No way I was going to spend that much $$ just to move.

I ended up trading my '92 Ford Plow truck, my John Deere lawn tractor and a 427 Ford engine for this semi & 53' Trailer. My total out of pocket cost was 1000.00 plus
1000.00 in fuel for the semi to get it here. I now sold the Semi Tractor for 6000.00 to recoup some of the $. Because I moved 3 times in a 8~9 month period the semi & trailer were invaluable as no loading, unloading and no storage charges.

Total amt to move would have been 45,500.00. In all I did it for about 10% of that or less. I do not even have a CDL, just a friend who drove it down for me. When I got here my rental allowed the semi out back for no charge.

I still have the Semi Trailer and will sell it once I get a garage built, its still packed full of stuff with no place to put it.

So the Semi Tractor was used for the single purpose of getting me here and to save $$ in doing so. Awesome truck and was a great experience and it allowed me to save $$ I did not have.

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"I put my Semi Tractor (long story will tell later) up for grabs and it sold a day or less later"

I wanted to give a quickie explanation on this Semi Tractor.

A year ago I sold my house in Washington. The bid to move my stuff less cars was 38,000.00 to Phoenix. OUCH! Another 1500.00 per vehicle and I had 5 extra vehicles. No way I was going to spend that much $$ just to move.

I ended up trading my '92 Ford Plow truck, my John Deere lawn tractor and a 427 Ford engine for this semi & 53' Trailer. My total out of pocket cost was 1000.00 plus
1000.00 in fuel for the semi to get it here. I now sold the Semi Tractor for 6000.00 to recoup some of the $. Because I moved 3 times in a 8~9 month period the semi & trailer were invaluable as no loading, unloading and no storage charges.

Total amt to move would have been 45,500.00. In all I did it for about 10% of that or less. I do not even have a CDL, just a friend who drove it down for me. When I got here my rental allowed the semi out back for no charge.

I still have the Semi Trailer and will sell it once I get a garage built, its still packed full of stuff with no place to put it.

So the Semi Tractor was used for the single purpose of getting me here and to save $$ in doing so. Awesome truck and was a great experience and it allowed me to save $$ I did not have.

That's freak'en ingenious! Saved a lot of money and very convenient!
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"I put my Semi Tractor (long story will tell later) up for grabs and it sold a day or less later"

I wanted to give a quickie explanation on this Semi Tractor.

A year ago I sold my house in Washington. The bid to move my stuff less cars was 38,000.00 to Phoenix. OUCH! Another 1500.00 per vehicle and I had 5 extra vehicles. No way I was going to spend that much $$ just to move.

I ended up trading my '92 Ford Plow truck, my John Deere lawn tractor and a 427 Ford engine for this semi & 53' Trailer. My total out of pocket cost was 1000.00 plus
1000.00 in fuel for the semi to get it here. I now sold the Semi Tractor for 6000.00 to recoup some of the $. Because I moved 3 times in a 8~9 month period the semi & trailer were invaluable as no loading, unloading and no storage charges.

Total amt to move would have been 45,500.00. In all I did it for about 10% of that or less. I do not even have a CDL, just a friend who drove it down for me. When I got here my rental allowed the semi out back for no charge.

I still have the Semi Trailer and will sell it once I get a garage built, its still packed full of stuff with no place to put it.

So the Semi Tractor was used for the single purpose of getting me here and to save $$ in doing so. Awesome truck and was a great experience and it allowed me to save $$ I did not have.

What moving company did plan to use? Brinks armored service?

Perhaps you moved out of the Biltmore Estate?


That just to me sounds godly expensive. I don't even think I paid half that much for moving overseas with a 53' loaded container and all the way across the states into Canada on the west coast.

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That just to me sounds godly expensive. I don't even think I paid half that much for moving overseas with a 53' loaded container and all the way across the states into Canada on the west coast.
Remember I did not have the typical household stuff to move.

I had nearly 50,000 lbs of tools, equipment, engines, transmissions and other parts along with furniture from a 4300sq ft house and 3000 sq ft of garage & storage space.

Most places will try to get 1.00 per pound by the time its said and done. That did include packing and delivery along with unloading. Still, I moved for a fraction of the cost. It was nearly 1500 miles across country too.

If I would have rented Penske 24' Trucks x 7 that would have cost me approx 2,000.00 per truck. Truck rental 1300.00 each plus approx 900.00 each for fuel plus drivers, motels, food, airplane tickets etc.

Some people pay more than 38k to move across the country. Expensive? You bet!

When I got the Semi loaded I was overweight @ over 80,000lbs had to remove weight, sell some stuff... The semi got 7.1 MPG hauling 80k lbs @ 70+mph

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Remember I did not have the typical household stuff to move.

I had nearly 50,000 lbs of tools, equipment, engines, transmissions and other parts along with furniture from a 4300sq ft house and 3000 sq ft of garage & storage space.

Most places will try to get 1.00 per pound by the time its said and done. That did include packing and delivery along with unloading. Still, I moved for a fraction of the cost. It was nearly 1500 miles across country too.

If I would have rented Penske 24' Trucks x 7 that would have cost me approx 2,000.00 per truck. Truck rental 1300.00 each plus approx 900.00 each for fuel plus drivers, motels, food, airplane tickets etc.

Some people pay more than 38k to move across the country. Expensive? You bet!

When I got the Semi loaded I was overweight @ over 80,000lbs had to remove weight, sell some stuff... The semi got 7.1 MPG hauling 80k lbs @ 70+mph

Sounds like you were moving out of the biltmore with all that


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I think that is a sign that you have too much stuff
LOL!

Yup, Waaaaay too much "stuff". It was a major downsize as now the garage space is less than 1/3 what we had, 25% of the lot size and less than 50% of the house size.

One can collect a lot of stuff over a 35yr plus period. Now I am closer to 60 than 50. For sure slowed down a bunch at least I do not have to wonder what to do with the little extra time in the evenings.

I got rid of a lot of stuff to make the move.

Large house, large garage then sitting on rocker looking out the window wishing I had a few bucks to do a project.

Major downsize now I can at least "tinker" a little.
Its nice to have just a fraction of the costs associated with a large place in a screwed up State. (sorry to those washingtonian's)

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Really an awesome build!

The EcoBoost is a fantastic engine. I'm totally digging my 2011 SuperCrew FX4 Twin Turbo... I bought it as a second vehicle, for weekends, projects, dog trips, moto hauling, etc., but ended up never driving my 'primary', a VW Touareg V8, so I sold the Touareg and take the F150 everywhere now! Performance is fantastic, and I imagine your final build will be lighter than a factory F150 making it even better!

Might be "interesting" getting the engine control system completely happy... The PCU talks to so many other modules like transmission control, body control, ABS, instrument panel, etc. and who knows what kind of limp modes it might go into when it doesn't see expected results off the CAN-bus... Might need some help in the final stages from one of the tuners who has cracked the encrypted PCU to hack together a version that won't be as picky about what other modules are telling or not telling it...
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Once I saw the pics in the other thread, I was hoping that you would start a build thread on this project. Keep up the good work, here at GJ and at home.




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This made me chuckle you being over weight.
Can someone give me a T? For It instead of I? Good Catch!
Actually when I hopped out of truck at weigh station to see the weight the weighmaster said nah, its good. . .

Now into stripping paint mode on the cab so I can see if there are any real surprises hidden underneath. Once that is done I can tack the pieces back into place and check fit with frame.

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Really an awesome build!

The EcoBoost is a fantastic engine. I'm totally digging my 2011 SuperCrew FX4 Twin Turbo... I bought it as a second vehicle, for weekends, projects, dog trips, moto hauling, etc., but ended up never driving my 'primary', a VW Touareg V8, so I sold the Touareg and take the F150 everywhere now! Performance is fantastic, and I imagine your final build will be lighter than a factory F150 making it even better!

Might be "interesting" getting the engine control system completely happy... The PCU talks to so many other modules like transmission control, body control, ABS, instrument panel, etc. and who knows what kind of limp modes it might go into when it doesn't see expected results off the CAN-bus... Might need some help in the final stages from one of the tuners who has cracked the encrypted PCU to hack together a version that won't be as picky about what other modules are telling or not telling it...
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Yeah thats going to be half the fun getting everything to talk to each other.
Not going to hold my breath for FoMoCo to make that standalone harness any longer.

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Man you rock! I am very impressed with your ambitious project. You obviously know your way around body work. I'm hooked. I had a slick up 'till a few months ago. Just couldn't fit it in with my othe project, etc. It wasn't as nice as yours to start with. Good luck and keep 'em coming.
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OK, you were already my hero with this project... but when I heard of all the jun- er, goodies you wanted to keep and your solution to the move, it made me wonder if I had a brother I didn't know about!

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I had a 66 back in the day and it's always been my dream to do what your doing. I'll be watching and learning. Thanks for sharing this great experience.

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Man you rock! I am very impressed with your ambitious project. You obviously know your way around body work. I'm hooked. I had a slick up 'till a few months ago. Just couldn't fit it in with my othe project, etc. It wasn't as nice as yours to start with. Good luck and keep 'em coming.
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It was amazing how that worked out with the Semi. I was bound and determined to find a way to not have to spend big $$ to move.

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Gotta love the '65 '66 Trucks. I will post up some pics of the "other" 3 Slicks.

Later in evening last night was able to push cab outside and strip some paint as did not want no surprises in the end.

A couple other random shots. Frame waiting for assy, the HUGE HVAC box.

Cab is actually in quite good condition with minimal body work prior to paint. These trucks do not have perfect alignment to cab, doors, front clip but I may do some cutting and tweaking if I have to.












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To those interested in the Slicks '65 '66 Trucks here are a few shots of the others I have.

The Tahoe Turquoise truck is a very rare one being a F250 "RANGER" a factory bucket seat truck and one of 3 or 4 known to exist.

The Green/White truck is a unrestored Original. I freshened up underhood but the body/paint/trim/interior is still original.


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Wow.. This is probably one of the coolest builds I have seen in a while..
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Thanks All!

Just got back from my local Ford dealer a bit ago with a few more pieces for next step on this project.

The Traction Loc unit came in as did the sheet metal pieces to tie in the 2011-12 firewall to my '66 cab. FoMoCo has had all the pieces in stock so far and shipping has been very fast, fair pricing too.

Should have all the pieces needed to assemble the rear axle unit.

Since this is a performance/economy build but leaning more on economy I am sticking with the 3.15 rear gears in the 9.75 axle. Just adding the Traction Loc (in case I need it LOL)

Once I get it up and running I will be adding a tune from Livernois Motorsports in Dearborn Heights, MI that should give 360 RWHP & 431 RWTQ. Gains at top of over 100hp & 100 lb tq. Better mileage too!

More pics soon.

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New panels from FoMoCo. These are what the dash bolts to and its also spotted to firewall. Floor is also trimmed for fit, prob have to trim more but need a initial trial fit.

Now I need to get cab hung over frame, locate floor, firewall and side panels then spot together, make cab mounts, weld up back of cab opening that was stretched.

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New 33 Spline traction loc showed as did the rear brake backing plate kits which include the 9" Parking Brake assy. Check out the S I Z E of those rear rotors. That should give me real BRAKES! Now I am not sure if I want to stab the brakes or throttle first . . . LOL!










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Looks like a lot of fun, just wondering why you didn't go for a low mileage used axle you could have saved a lot of $$$ and work. I just replaced a housing and everything in it on a 2007 Mustang under warranty and just parts alone were $1500+, if it had been cash it would have been even more.
I am glad to see that the parts guy ordered you a built carrier and loaded backing plates.
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Oh and hold off on your tune until you have it ready to go because I'm sure they'll have a better one by then. I used to live a few miles from Livernois, they blew up a few motors looking for the most HP, I think they got to 550 or so on stock motors before they were letting go. Check them out on youtube.
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This is awesome, I wish you the best of luck and will eagerly be awaiting updates in this thread. My father has a 62 unibody that he's been trying to decide what to replace the y-block with. I don't think he'd go this route though.

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I was also going to post to contact Livernois if you need any help, they might able to help disable some of the unneeded functionality. Just for fun, here's a video of their tune v. a stock truck.

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Looks like a lot of fun, just wondering why you didn't go for a low mileage used axle you could have saved a lot of $$$ and work. I just replaced a housing and everything in it on a 2007 Mustang under warranty and just parts alone were $1500+, if it had been cash it would have been even more.
I am glad to see that the parts guy ordered you a built carrier and loaded backing plates.
Keep it up I can't wait to see the finished product.
I actually did find a few complete (or so I thought) rear axle assemblies.
Ordered one from LKQ (it was a 3.31 vs the 3.15 I needed) a used assembly is 1250-1600.00 They forgot to mention they cut off the shocks, ebrake cables and remove all brakes, Ebrake assembly, they cut the U-Bolts so the only thing you get is a housing with axles and a open diff for 1250-1600.00
A new housing with axles is not much more than 1/2 of that. Then knowone had a 3.15 axle its out of a WRECKED vehicle. It was far cheaper to just go with a new housing and axles as they JUNK YARDS make them pretty worthless in the way they are removed. Be the last time I try to business with LKQ! They said leaving brakes is a S A F E T Y issue . . . Typical dreamers on the pricing. I was super surprised I could do brand new for less than a junk used unit. This way I also have a brand new Limited Slip Too! New housing comes with a cover, bolts and new axle brgs already pressed in.

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It will be a while before this is up and running, have been in contact with Livernois and they are aware of my project.

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I was also going to post to contact Livernois if you need any help, they might able to help disable some of the unneeded functionality. Just for fun, here's a video of their tune v. a stock truck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqE86s5Mk3w
I have seen that and the other EcoBoost tuner vids. Pretty COOL!

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Between this thread and the sn65 powerpoint presentation i just spent 2 hours in front of this computer when i should be doing work lol
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Love the build and I am lusting after the three pickups, especially the F250 Ranger- awesome!

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I dont really like Fords but this is a damn cool build, I give you mad props for taking it on and look forward to your progress and success.
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[QUOTE=bhd;2286308]Where did you find such a great deal on that totaled f150? I'm assuming you paid less than 3400?

my high winning bid was 3250.00. Online auction where my highest bid would have been 4400.00 I guess the next guy bid 3200.00 so my 3250.00 bought it! I did have to pay some sales tax on that amt plus gas money to go fetch it etc. A smokin' Deal for sure. I did bid on half a dozen prior but they were selling for 7k & up. I really wanted one with XLT convenience package, column shift, 4x2, 3.15 gear, roll over or hit in rear so got real lucky to find pretty much exactly what I wanted. I would have preferred the black interior or even tan over the gray. I will have to chop down the seats to make them fit so can re-upholster them at that time unless I find other seats that will work.

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Hopefully tomorrow I can make some more good progress . . .

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Quite the project you got going on there. Don't be afraid to just fab.things from scratch and don't get yourself caught in the way of factory thinking.you have the skills and the tools and the ambition just make it the way you want and stay out of the box.Keep up the great work.
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Thanks!

Right now am trying to keep time and costs down but yet have a nice ride when complete. My time for Fab work will be happening real soon. Some of this stuff is easier and cheap to buy and quicker in the end like the side (kick panel sheet metal) It will help me get things in proper alignment too.

The stock firewall is a biggie not just because of the quiet steel but for mounting HVAC, Power Brake Booster and column Brg. Will fab the rest.

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Can you post a picture of the factory buckets in the Ranger, please?
I just realized I do not have ANY recent pictures of the interior!

A couple from day I bought it 2~3yrs ago.

I was totally shocked when I pulled out the buckets and carpet at how nice it was inside. Wish the outside paint was that nice for sure!

The carpet was so dried out it was nearly powder on the floor. Not so bad on the carpet behind the seats.

This just gave me an idea I have never shot any video of this truck so now that I have a good 35mm Camera with video I will shoot some.

Interesting part with this LUCKY FIND Ranger is it was listed on craigslist for big bucks then the price dropped over a 2.5YR period. A single poor picture from a cell phone & a great distance away. I called the lady who turned out to be the original owner and asked her about rust & body and she was pretty insulted. I then asked if she could email me pics as the truck was approx 50 miles away from me. She said her grand daughter would email me some pics. When I saw a pic of a BUCKET SEAT I about dropped what ever I was doing and though naw, no such thing as a Bucket seat F250!

I called again and 1/2hr later was on my way to look at it. Ended up buying it for 900.00! She said it was parked because of a misfire and shop could not figure it out. Because she had a large camper on truck and towed a 27' trailer behind it she had added a more powerful GT engine. When I arrived I could tell it had been sitting for quite some time the california plate still on it. There was a piece of plywood in box and thought probably just to hide the dents. I asked if I could remove plywood.. Sure she said and much to my amazement it was there to protect the box. I went back home to get my car hauler with winch and the rest is history.

When I got home I started to check it out and found indeed the engine was a
1968 GT390! A friend needed a GT engine so sold it to him for 800.00 as a cam lobe had gone south the reason for the misfire. So I had this wonderful California RANGER for 100.00 and the trip to pick it up. It sat inside trailer for about a year then when I was moving my oldest daughter helped me get it running. She claims it as hers and just loves the truck. I was hoping to paint it the original color this summer if time allows. One of the best driving older vehicles I have ever owned. Video soon . . .

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That Ranger has an amazing bed. It appears to have had a camper shell on it, that along with the plywood did a good job of protecting things.

Too bad someone cut the dash for the aftermarket radio.

My F-100 came out of North Dakota; it was pretty clean when I got it although it was nowhere near as nice as that one.

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That Ranger has an amazing bed. It appears to have had a camper shell on it, that along with the plywood did a good job of protecting things.

Too bad someone cut the dash for the aftermarket radio.

My F-100 came out of North Dakota; it was pretty clean when I got it although it was nowhere near as nice as that one.

A bit bummed about the radio cut but an easy fix and the rest of truck is so nice the dash is easy to overlook.

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FoMoCo used 1966 Mustang seats in the '66 F series Ranger's. Same seat as the '65 Mustang but different pattern's. An option on the Ranger was a console that ford borrowed from the Falcon. This truck came with no console.

Did not make much headway today as more head scratching then getting much actually accomplished. I was able to get cab set over the frame to check fit. Pics in a bit

Also took apart the original rear axle assy & will start assembly on the new unit next week.

Before I can get exact location for cab on frame need the chassis complete with engine, trans, rear axle installed. Trial fit today was to see how it all looked.

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Those seats would probably kill your back on a long trip. I had a '66 that my grandfather bought new. It was an F-100 Camper Special custom cab. Yellow and white two tone. Bench seat.
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Wow.. Im not sure how this gonna turn out.. But you Obviously have Confidence in your Skillz, So far im Impressed to say the Least.
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Saturday is usually the day to get stuff done. Far too many sidetracks today but was able to get the new frame under the '66 cab now that the back of cab is modified to fit the frame.

Ride height will be approx 4" higher than what it is here. Not slammed but a few inches lower than stock. In order to compromise floor/interior height with the tall frame I had to have cab approx 2" higher on frame than I would have liked.

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Actually they are pretty comfortable. At least on trips of a couple hours. Probably not so much on a 8hr ride.

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Hoping it turns out ok . . . Some day's I am not so sure where I left any skill I may have had. For sure the deepest I have been into a project. Trial and error method for me as no clue what I am doing at this point.

Because I need the engine, trans and all suspension in to really get cab in correct place I started on the rear axle today but all I got accomplished was another HUGE mess! The original housing was tweaked pretty bad even the pinion flange was off .016. Decided to test the run-out just in case and it was tweaked ever so slightly. Time to order another so I can finish it up. The shims for carrier side brgs look like they will also be a pain.

The axle assy was a bit tough to get apart because it was tweaked pretty bad.









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You're doing an amazing job, and it's greatly appreciated that you're documenting and sharing this with us (and with such great pics to accompany!)

I can't wait to see more progress... Don't get discouraged! You've done more so far than most folks could even hope to accomplish...
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An ambitous project that has obviously had plenty of planning and very similar but then very different to my own project http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...0871&showall=1 to you for taking on and having such a great idea. Like many here we await progres and will enjoy all you post.
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I've always liked the mid 60's Ford pick ups and I really like what you are doing with this one. I'm enjoying this ... A LOT!
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All I can say is WoW! Just way over the top. Love the idea and lots of luck. It would be blowing my mind too, trying to keep it it all straight. Good luck.
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Problem is I did very little planning other then checking on possible wheelbase scenario's. Get both trucks apart and just see what fits and go from there. A big risk but some how some way plan to make a truck out of the two.

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TKS! In the beginning stages now so am sure it will get better as things move along. I have to keep thinking what the final product will be like to drive and look like just to keep me motivated.

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Just looked at a few pages on your veh. Will check it out more now. I like what I see so far!

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I remember my Dad bringing home a slightly used 65' Ford wagon for my Mom in about 1968 -dark green, brown interior and the best part ... it was a "woodie". I'd love to have that car now!
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Wowza ! Wonder if the EcoBoost would fit in a Fox body!
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sure anything will fit anywhere, just need to have the drive to get it done.
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Knowing what was involved in my project makes me see and appreciate what you are doing and the way you are looking at it Sorry not all the photos ar available now due to a glitch on the photo host site.
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This looks like a whole lot of fun. I'm amazed how inexpensive the new ford donor was. Maybe I need to find one of those. Hmm...

Do you have an in at the auctions or did you buy from a late model repairables?
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I have to admit that there is very little in this world I hate more than a ford but I will say this is a cool project. I love the idea of shoving new technology in an old package. Keep up the good work !
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judging from the sticker on the window of the donor truck, he got it from copart. they are an insurance salvage auction, anyone can bid (after registering). I've taken more vehicles than I can count to our local one.


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Interesting, much like this thread.
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This looks like a whole lot of fun. I'm amazed how inexpensive the new ford donor was. Maybe I need to find one of those. Hmm...

A few up and downs like any project but is quite enjoyable so far.
I found a little trick for locating them @ copart. As someone mentioned anyone can bid you just have to give them 10% of your bid amt to hold.

This link may or may not work. Just go to copart and type in F150 3.5L and it will bring up all in the good old US of A. Same with if you want a 5.0 just type
f150 5.0L. There are currently 14 EcoBoost trucks showing. You are basically bidding against other salvage yards. This particular truck was owned by Enterprise Rental/Lease Once a junk yard gets them the price skyrockets. It was the only way I could begin to afford this project is buy pretty much direct. As you will see its not easy to find a eco without major front or engine dmg. Especially @ a good price.




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judging from the sticker on the window of the donor truck, he got it from copart. they are an insurance salvage auction, anyone can bid (after registering). I've taken more vehicles than I can count to our local one.


again, outstanding project
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The one in Avon, been there a couple times.

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Couple pics of frame and axle housing. Assembly time!

Was not happy with FoMoCO's paint job so re-painted them both.

Pics of new frame as picked up from dealer. I was very disappointed in how a new frame looks.
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WOW, talk about a sexy frame.
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WOW, talk about a sexy frame.

Hoping to start assembly of chassis this week.

1) Front Suspension Install

2) Engine and Trans Install

3) Assemble and Install the rear axle assy. (waiting on a pinion brg)

I need the chassis more as a roller to get cab in proper location. Once the cab is mounted to chassis things should start to fall into place. Trying to get all the electronics that are needed for proper veh operation into the confined space will be toughest part of project.

8500.00 For a stand alone harness is way out of my league not to mention another couple grand to get it all to work. I have no choice if I want this to get done in 2012 but to use all the '11 F150 electronics that are needed for proper operation.

It will all add a lot more weight than planned but if that is what gotta' be done. . . I started with a 300.00 Truck that was destined for the bone yard.

Also this week I need to teardown the '11 dash to see what it is going to take to get the electronics into the small area of '66 Cab.

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Wow! Great swap! I just brought home an ecoboost myself on Monday and I am amazed at that little engine. Keep up the good work!

You just can't beat the styling of those old trucks. I have a '69 F100 that my grandpa bought brand new. It was passed down to me in the nineties. Some day I need to do a full body-off resto and repower.

You will have the best of both worlds when you are done. Great styling with modern power, handling, and braking.
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Thats some coating on a Frame. I know guys whos new paint jobs on the cars are not as good.
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Wow! Great swap! I just brought home an ecoboost myself on Monday and I am amazed at that little engine. Keep up the good work!

You just can't beat the styling of those old trucks. I have a '69 F100 that my grandpa bought brand new. It was passed down to me in the nineties. Some day I need to do a full body-off resto and repower.

You will have the best of both worlds when you are done. Great styling with modern power, handling, and braking.
Lets see a pic of the new ecoboost and the '69! Friend has a nice low mile 1970 Ranger with a Factory 390.

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I had some left over PPG Concept so just went with that. The axle housing looks pretty decent too. Just got it down to bare metal then wiped it down with PPG Metal Conditioner and shot it. Very happy with results.

I was in process of setting up the 9 3/4" Rear axle when I realized I needed a special tool to set the pinion height. The tools for rear setup cost over 1000.00 less the pullers which I have. So for the first time in my life I enlisted a Dealer (Ford) to set up the pinion depth and backlash for me. Hopefully that will be done tomorrow (dropped it off late this afternoon)

Finally picked up the final parts to get rear axle installed into frame. Time to start swapping the entire driveline from original frame to the new one, finalize cab fitment and it will be all downhill from there . . . LOL! I always liked roller coaster rides and this one has been fun so far.

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Wow, I'm swapping a 64 cab onto a 79 4x4 frame and I thought that was a big deal cause I had to move a couple of things. Geeze, this is amazing. I'm subscribed and will sure be following this one. I sure hope when you get it done you'll try and bring it to the F-100 Nats in Pigeon Forge. The Slick guys will go nuts over it. Carry on and good luck...I'm watching.

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Wow, I'm swapping a 64 cab onto a 79 4x4 frame and I thought that was a big deal cause I had to move a couple of things. Geeze, this is amazing. I'm subscribed and will sure be following this one. I sure hope when you get it done you'll try and bring it to the F-100 Nats in Pigeon Forge. The Slick guys will go nuts over it. Carry on and good luck...I'm watching.

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Something I have always wanted to do was attend the F-100 Nats and also the Ford's Forever show @ Knott's Berry Farm in California.

Hoping to make both with this truck next year. If all works out I would like to tow my 427 powered F100 with the Eco-Boost to both shows. Unless of course I could get a volunteer driver for one of them . . .

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Something I have always wanted to do was attend the F-100 Nats and also the Ford's Forever show @ Knott's Berry Farm in California.

Hoping to make both with this truck next year. If all works out I would like to tow my 427 powered F100 with the Eco-Boost to both shows. Unless of course I could get a volunteer driver for one of them . . .
Volunteer here. Ooh oooh

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Wow this incredible. The work done to this truck is just awesome. Thanks for posting and sharing.
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I had a 66 F-250 4X4 that I drove to highschool. My dad and brother lifted it with custom spring perches and custom made springs all around. I helped my dad rebuild the 352. It cleared 44" super swampers and I drove it everday, all day. Took it offroading several times. It had the 4 speed on the floor with the granny gear for first, made rush hour traffic a piece of cake. Custom power steering unit also so I could turn the steering wheel. I was 135lbs back then. That was in the mid 80's, people still remember that blue truck!
I remember that it could smoke those 44's like it was a 2wd truck. Nothing cooler than giant 4x4 tire burnout marks in the school parking lot.
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Wow this is amazing you are an inspiration. Makes me feel so slack, I have to get on to my unibody.
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excuse me sir, but I believe it's been over a week and no progress pics! What's gives man???? Don't you know you're responsible for my fix here!

Nice thread! I check it every day! Good luck!
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excuse me sir, but I believe it's been over a week and no progress pics! What's gives man???? Don't you know you're responsible for my fix here!

Nice thread! I check it every day! Good luck!
Sorry, but I had to spend a few days in the "PoorHouse" after that last parts order!

Update soon as have not been making much headway this past week.

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Don't feel so bad, some of us manage to live in the poor house. Like others been waiting for progress.
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Pretty dang awesome this is. I would have never thought that any part could be cheaper (overall) from the dealer. Still learning something new every day! I love those trucks too...well, just about all old Fords, but anyway...
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Remind me for the Knotts Berry Farm show next year...

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I had a 66 F-250 4X4 that I drove to highschool. My dad and brother lifted it with custom spring perches and custom made springs all around. I helped my dad rebuild the 352. It cleared 44" super swampers and I drove it everday, all day. Took it offroading several times. It had the 4 speed on the floor with the granny gear for first, made rush hour traffic a piece of cake. Custom power steering unit also so I could turn the steering wheel. I was 135lbs back then. That was in the mid 80's, people still remember that blue truck!
I remember that it could smoke those 44's like it was a 2wd truck. Nothing cooler than giant 4x4 tire burnout marks in the school parking lot.
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Wow this is amazing you are an inspiration. Makes me feel so slack, I have to get on to my unibody.
Thanks! Just saw a unibody for sale yesterday with a 5.0L out of a Explorer stuffed in it. Looked pretty solid and straight for 3300.00

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Making some progress today, FINALLY!

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Pretty dang awesome this is. I would have never thought that any part could be cheaper (overall) from the dealer. Still learning something new every day! I love those trucks too...well, just about all old Fords, but anyway...
I have found to try dealer 1st because it is normally a much better part and a lot of times cheaper than aftermarket. I knew the rear axle at boneyard seemed steep and did not know they stripped it down until after I told them I would take it. If it had been the right gear ratio I may have still bit but in the end I was much better off just buying new and saving $$ to boot.

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Thanks!

I am making progress and taking TONS of pics just not sure how detailed of pics people want to see. I have a lot of hours in rear axle assy right now and if interest could post those pics. That in itself has been a HUGE project.

Something else I have been spending a lot of time on is a Printed Shop Manual so to speak. Each and every component I decide to work on that is related to the '11~'12 Trucks I print each section page by page then put them in plastic sleeves and into a binder. Seeing as tho I am a fanatic of getting each and every part in correct order and proper torque I need the specs, torque's etc

Trying my best to make it all look new at same time....

Getting close to wrapping up the Rear Axle assy maybe yet this evening.

I am also taking all part numbers, pricing etc so I have a record if anything else is needed. That way when truck is complete I will have it all cataloged exactly part# and $$ of every component and what it fits.

My Binder is now many HUNDRED pages. The plastic sleeves really help if my hands are a bit dirty I do not smudge the pages. I have done that on my last dozen vehicles or so and find it very helpful.

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Just about to tackle the rebuild of my rear axle so details fo this adventure will also be a nice little side show too. Love the detail shots of the main project and I'm almost certain you've captured the audience that would like to be there so photos will be the next best thing.. Great build thread, the best in this forum to date..
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Thanks! Just saw a unibody for sale yesterday with a 5.0L out of a Explorer stuffed in it. Looked pretty solid and straight for 3300.00

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Making some progress today, FINALLY!



I have found to try dealer 1st because it is normally a much better part and a lot of times cheaper than aftermarket. I knew the rear axle at boneyard seemed steep and did not know they stripped it down until after I told them I would take it. If it had been the right gear ratio I may have still bit but in the end I was much better off just buying new and saving $$ to boot.



Thanks!

I am making progress and taking TONS of pics just not sure how detailed of pics people want to see. I have a lot of hours in rear axle assy right now and if interest could post those pics. That in itself has been a HUGE project.

Something else I have been spending a lot of time on is a Printed Shop Manual so to speak. Each and every component I decide to work on that is related to the '11~'12 Trucks I print each section page by page then put them in plastic sleeves and into a binder. Seeing as tho I am a fanatic of getting each and every part in correct order and proper torque I need the specs, torque's etc

Trying my best to make it all look new at same time....

Getting close to wrapping up the Rear Axle assy maybe yet this evening.

I am also taking all part numbers, pricing etc so I have a record if anything else is needed. That way when truck is complete I will have it all cataloged exactly part# and $$ of every component and what it fits.

My Binder is now many HUNDRED pages. The plastic sleeves really help if my hands are a bit dirty I do not smudge the pages. I have done that on my last dozen vehicles or so and find it very helpful.
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Just about to tackle the rebuild of my rear axle so details fo this adventure will also be a nice little side show too. Love the detail shots of the main project and I'm almost certain you've captured the audience that would like to be there so photos will be the next best thing.. Great build thread, the best in this forum to date..
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Thanks Chris!

What yr, make, model Rear axle are you rebuilding?

Getting ready to upload a few pics so will post them in a bit.
Just about done with axle assy. Still need to add brake lines, rt rotor and caliper, vent hose. Sure glad I added the Traction Lok as will most likely need it especially when I add some boost to the turbo's.

These new ones are pretty involved and not so simple like the ford 9".

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I had a 66 F-250 4X4 that I drove to highschool. My dad and brother lifted it with custom spring perches and custom made springs all around. I helped my dad rebuild the 352. It cleared 44" super swampers and I drove it everday, all day. Took it offroading several times. It had the 4 speed on the floor with the granny gear for first, made rush hour traffic a piece of cake. Custom power steering unit also so I could turn the steering wheel. I was 135lbs back then. That was in the mid 80's, people still remember that blue truck!
I remember that it could smoke those 44's like it was a 2wd truck. Nothing cooler than giant 4x4 tire burnout marks in the school parking lot.
What happened to it and do you have any pics of it ?
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A few pics as promised, was just too tired last night to post them.

New housing getting it ready to assemble, pressing the bearings onto the new Traction Lok, A sneak peak at the new frame next to the old, torquing up the "PIN" after installing the axles.

To save weight over this M O N S T E R rear axle I could have used a 9" but then would have issue with ABS brakes, trailer sway control, stability control etc. At least I should not have to worry about breaking it.








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A few shots of the binder I am putting together, Not to forget some Friction Modifier for the Traction Lok, Installing Backing plates, rear cover.

It was not too many years ago when vehicles had 9" shoes for braking and even much smaller, looks about the size on a Nissan or Toyota LOL. Now Ford is using it for Park Brakes on a F150! Probably easier not to forget to release the park brake because it holds so well the truck will not move .. . Self adjusting park brakes too! How cool is that.











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Getting close to buttoning up the rear axle assy.
























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Yup, I even took the ID tag from old axle and put it on the new. It gives a lot of important info with a bar code for scanning along with unit serial number, date codes, assembly plant and more. Call me a NUT Job for the detail work, just want the final product to look nice. Cannot believe (actually I can) it took an entire WEEK just on rear axle assy. At this rate it will be the summer of 2029 when I finish this thing.

How many can ID this part and know what it does? (mounted to upper bolt on the caliper)

Just put those thinking caps on, even make it a funny one what this thing does.
Sure looks silly sitting there. HINT: it has a little rubber cap with a torx inside & is made in Sweden.

So is this an OK number of pictures? Too many, not enough, just right? Too much detail? Figured as long as it was over a week since I posted pics should probably show what was accomplished although it does not seem like much.




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Just counted 41 new pics....

Next up is swapping the engine and trans from the old frame to the new.
Think I finally have all the proper hardware to do that.

Once I get it on a rolling chassis I can then get proper position for the cab, fab up the cab mounts, figure out the floor, firewall, height of cab channeled over the chassis how low the cab can go without major rework of the box.

Since the wheelbase on new chassis is 2.9" shorter than the '66 chassis I will then need to see if I modify the '66 box to fit or change location of the rear axle in the new 2012 frame. I painted the new '12 frame knowing full well I may have to cut out the spring mounting brackets and move them.

I can gain approx 1" in wheelbase by moving the front axle centerline rearward so it will be under 2" I will have to re-locate the rear axle.

Still not 100% sure the new Rear axle is going to fit in wheelwells of the '66 box. Eyeballing and a quick measurement said it would but I do not have tires for the 18" wheels and have not mocked them up yet. Fingers crossed on that one.

Once the cab is mounted on frame I can then begin the tedious task of how I am going to get all the electronics to work in that tiny '66 Dash.

Do have some ideas but not sure how they will play out yet.

Lets just hope its not another 9 DAYS before another update!

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Just out of curiosity, was there any gear setup done, eg. measuring preload, backlash, taking a pattern?

I don't see any gear marking compound and since there was a carrier change I thought there would be.
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I would add an extra bottle of modifier, they have enough problems with chattering on their own from the factory. When you replace the clutch plates you are suppose to soak them in modifier for at least 30 minutes prior to assembly but with the pre built carrier they come dry. For the price of an extra bottle it is cheap insurance.

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Madness. I think this truck will be BETTER than factory by the time you're done. Plus its got cool sheetmetal.
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I'd like an Ecoboost in my F150 when you are done.
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Just out of curiosity, was there any gear setup done, eg. measuring preload, backlash, taking a pattern?

I don't see any gear marking compound and since there was a carrier change I thought there would be.
Yes, After spending this much time and $$ I was not about to cut a corner and to make sure it was done correctly. For the 1st time in my life I went to the Dealer (other than warranty work) and had their tech set the pinion depth & backlash as I did not have the proper Adaptor setup 205-160, 205-383, 205-226 along with proper Drive Pinion Gauge Tube @ nearly 1k for all the 9 3/4" axle tools I decided to have them do it. Nominal pinion depth was set at .032 & backlash @ .010. I did check pattern and backlash just to satisfy myself. I torque every single nut bolt and screw also that is why I spent well over 400.00 purchasing all the correct manuals etc. So glad you asked but I usually do not miss much doing this stuff. Glad someone is standing over watching . . . Thats part of reason why it took me 9 days or so to complete to gather everything needed and to make sure it was right. I did not like Fords paint on housing so I got it down to bare metal, scrubbed it with PPG Dx579 then with DX 520 and re-finished it. So yes I am slow but very very seldom ever have to re-do anything on an entire veh.

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I would add an extra bottle of modifier, they have enough problems with chattering on their own from the factory. When you replace the clutch plates you are suppose to soak them in modifier for at least 30 minutes prior to assembly but with the pre built carrier they come dry. For the price of an extra bottle it is cheap insurance.

How fun was it crushing the crush sleeve on jack stands?
See above, and yes I did purchase actually 3 bottles of friction modifier 2 for this project and 1 for another project. I poured 1 bottle over each clutch pak.
I did not check the the traction lok itself as it was fresh out of the box.
With a few "connections" I used the best tech @ FoMoCo for the job.
In his notes it says: "Note, Must use Ford Friction Modifier and 1st 5 minutes of break in suggest rear wheel off ground, run in reverse to insure proper lube breakin on new bearings" He also reminded me to use 2 bottles of the friction modifier.

I was that concerned about getting it right, I for first time in my life farmed something like this out. Do I think I could have done the same? Absolutely but just did not want to spend the BIG BUCKS for proper rear end setup service tools.

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No problem . . .

I think as this build moves on one will find I am not one to cut corners. I usually do my research before just jumping in and tackling a job I have not done before. Not that I am still not learning and the occasional screw-up still possible . . . It looks like we have some pretty sharp people here in case I wander off the proper build path. If there is something I skip or miss its nice to know someone can point out what I may have missed. I am just posting what I think could be of interest. If I posted all the pics I take the server would have crashed

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That part coming off of the caliper is a vibration damper. Ford must have changed something because my 2012 EcoBoost doesn't have one,
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That part coming off of the caliper is a vibration damper. Ford must have changed something because my 2012 EcoBoost doesn't have one,
BINGO! We have a WINNER!

Is your truck a 4x4 or 4x2? I think its only on the 4x2 Trucks. Seems silly to me to have that chunk of weight hanging off the bolt. Looks like a complex little part. Might be with just a certain gear ratio etc.

I was hoping for some Funny responses to what it is. "Caption"

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It's a 4x2.

I can only guess it is supposed to dampen some vibration from when the brakes are applied, but if that's the case, why not one on each caliper? Guess we'll never know unless a Ford engineer comments.
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Great thread....best in freeparking...keep it up!

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funny, I was just reading just last week about the low frequency dampers on the Raybestos website.

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"Raybestos low frequency dampers incorporate an energy absorbing compound that eliminates low frequency vibration in the 0-2000Hz range… helping reduce low frequency noise for many problem applications."
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Plug one into a fox body, talk about scoot!
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Plug one into a fox body, talk about scoot!
Feel free to drop one into my 85 GT. My son wants to put the 4V out of his 03 Mach into it.

Sorry bout that keep up the great work. What a support group you have developed on hear.
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Thanks to all for the kind words!

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It's a 4x2.

I can only guess it is supposed to dampen some vibration from when the brakes are applied, but if that's the case, why not one on each caliper? Guess we'll never know unless a Ford engineer comments.
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http://tinyurl.com/6uwc4zx

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Interesting read, thanks for the link.

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Plug one into a fox body, talk about scoot!
That would be a neat swap! When I started this project I told the wife I wanted to turn it into a business if this project turns out like I hope it will.

Business name maybe "EcoBoosted" Then have everything needed for swaps on hand for all the Ford EcoBoost engines. From the 1.0L to the 1.5L to the 2.0L & the 3.5L Along with the up and coming Direct injection V-8's.
Ford has some great up and coming engines in the pipeline.

That's the reason I sold off some of my prized possession"s. Its also driving me nuts to have the 427 Project truck just sitting here and so close from getting it fired up for the first time.

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Feel free to drop one into my 85 GT. My son wants to put the 4V out of his 03 Mach into it.

Sorry bout that keep up the great work. What a support group you have developed on hear.
Best group on the net!

Had big plans for today to get going on this project as during the week the time seems to be so limited. Having a graduation party at our house this evening for 4 different families (college grads) so today is a day of getting some of the MESS cleaned up, making some parking room, been so busy trying to get things done it looks like I have a WEED factory going here. Somehow have to try to get in at least a couple hours on the ECO project.

Yesterday managed to pick up some neat electronic toys/testing equipment for great prices. Will post more info in a bit.

I am probably a bit "over excited" about this project right now as it reminds me of the time many moons ago when I dropped a Tunnel Rammed SCJ 429 into my 1970 Boss 302 Mustang. Solid Cam, ported heads, big tube OPEN headers & that first test drive (around midnight) I was so excited the late night run I was oblivious as to what my neighbors might think until of course my dad came to my garage and gave me a schooling on respect for the neighbors! And the time a couple years later when I took the first drive in my 1967 Mercury Capri with a Factory Installed 425HP 427. Its fun to be excited with projects as an "official" Old Fart. Keeps the brain going. LOL

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I embarked on a similar project with a unreal 52k mile reef blue 1993 notch a few years back but had to sell it when I left the country for work. The plan was a full coil over suspension, flaming river rack, 8.8 rear, 4 wheels discs, and a mild turbo 2.3 backed by a T5. Factory interior with bolstered seats, factory lx exterior, and pony rims. I plan on trying again with ecoboost in either another fox coupe or even a first gen.

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Still would not come close to the skill and execution going on with the OP's project. Looks amazing!
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Thanks for the response, the truck I have Howling down the road is the notorious 2004 FX4 with a 9 3/4 with a 3.55:1 ratio. I expect that this axle would be an identical setup and you almost have me convinced to let Ford set mine up too with the lack of specialty tools as well. As a mechanic, I have done many setups of rear diffs, most of 'em were on farm or construction tractors though and they tend not to howl as bad at 25 moles per hour either..
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What yr, make, model Rear axle are you rebuilding?

Getting ready to upload a few pics so will post them in a bit.
Just about done with axle assy. Still need to add brake lines, rt rotor and caliper, vent hose. Sure glad I added the Traction Lok as will most likely need it especially when I add some boost to the turbo's.

These new ones are pretty involved and not so simple like the ford 9".
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Thanks for the response, the truck I have Howling down the road is the notorious 2004 FX4 with a 9 3/4 with a 3.55:1 ratio. I expect that this axle would be an identical setup and you almost have me convinced to let Ford set mine up too with the lack of specialty tools as well. As a mechanic, I have done many setups of rear diffs, most of 'em were on farm or construction tractors though and they tend not to howl as bad at 25 moles per hour either..
Keep clicking those photos off, this has become by far the best read on any of my regular forums yet.
If you are just repairing a noisy bearing etc that would not be so difficult. It was because I had a brand new housing with a new Traction Lok that it became a bit more involved. What all were you planning on doing to your rear axle? Just bearings would be not so difficult.

I have the entire shop manual in PDF file I made if you want me to send you a copy of the rear axle portion. Axle bearings/seals is a quick and easy job. Its getting the pinion depth correct if major components are replaced is the biggie.

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I just realized I do not have ANY recent pictures of the interior!

A couple from day I bought it 2~3yrs ago.

I was totally shocked when I pulled out the buckets and carpet at how nice it was inside. Wish the outside paint was that nice for sure!

The carpet was so dried out it was nearly powder on the floor. Not so bad on the carpet behind the seats.

This just gave me an idea I have never shot any video of this truck so now that I have a good 35mm Camera with video I will shoot some.

Interesting part with this LUCKY FIND Ranger is it was listed on craigslist for big bucks then the price dropped over a 2.5YR period. A single poor picture from a cell phone & a great distance away. I called the lady who turned out to be the original owner and asked her about rust & body and she was pretty insulted. I then asked if she could email me pics as the truck was approx 50 miles away from me. She said her grand daughter would email me some pics. When I saw a pic of a BUCKET SEAT I about dropped what ever I was doing and though naw, no such thing as a Bucket seat F250!

I called again and 1/2hr later was on my way to look at it. Ended up buying it for 900.00! She said it was parked because of a misfire and shop could not figure it out. Because she had a large camper on truck and towed a 27' trailer behind it she had added a more powerful GT engine. When I arrived I could tell it had been sitting for quite some time the california plate still on it. There was a piece of plywood in box and thought probably just to hide the dents. I asked if I could remove plywood.. Sure she said and much to my amazement it was there to protect the box. I went back home to get my car hauler with winch and the rest is history.

When I got home I started to check it out and found indeed the engine was a
1968 GT390! A friend needed a GT engine so sold it to him for 800.00 as a cam lobe had gone south the reason for the misfire. So I had this wonderful California RANGER for 100.00 and the trip to pick it up. It sat inside trailer for about a year then when I was moving my oldest daughter helped me get it running. She claims it as hers and just loves the truck. I was hoping to paint it the original color this summer if time allows. One of the best driving older vehicles I have ever owned. Video soon . . .


Those seats and belts look just like the ones in my 65 Mustang, with out the risers of course.
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Yes, Ford used the seats from Mustang and added the riser's to fit the truck.
If a console was ordered the one from a Falcon was used.

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Sure is! I took it for the first ride saturday night and on the first real acceleration run it started to misfire and shake then a loud buzzing noise and the ride was over. (Stinkin' Alarm Clock)

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This is exactly what I'm up to . I have the notorious howling pinion bearing to deal with. If you would send the PDF to me I would be forever greatful. If you send to my e-mail address that would be awesome chriss@team-eagle.ca
Thanks again for responding, can't wait for the next installment on this job...
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If you are just repairing a noisy bearing etc that would not be so difficult. It was because I had a brand new housing with a new Traction Lok that it became a bit more involved. What all were you planning on doing to your rear axle? Just bearings would be not so difficult.

I have the entire shop manual in PDF file I made if you want me to send you a copy of the rear axle portion. Axle bearings/seals is a quick and easy job. Its getting the pinion depth correct if major components are replaced is the biggie.
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This is exactly what I'm up to . I have the notorious howling pinion bearing to deal with. If you would send the PDF to me I would be forever greatful. If you send to my e-mail address that would be awesome chriss@team-eagle.ca
Thanks again for responding, can't wait for the next installment on this job...
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If it is just a noisy pinion bearing you should be good to go.

Just use same shim under inner bearing with new bearing then check from there and will most likely be spot on as its not usually the bearing that makes improper pinion depth. At least you will be in the ballpark starting out.
Check your "email"

I will send you the complete parts list also with an exploded view.

Never got to touch the project this weekend. Too many of those "help" calls from friends with car issues. When the temps hit 100deg many a/c systems are not up to the task.

Now that it will most likely be 100+ every day from now until after 1st wk in October things may slow a bit unless I can get some room in shop to work. I have been working mostly outside.

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