Colorado shooting related story

[James E]

Here's a story about a guy who helped a young mother with her two children in the theater shooting. He and the mother both got shot but made it. I applaud him.

http://news.yahoo.com/dark-knight-ri...es.html?_esi=1

What they don't go into with the story is the fact that the woman's fiancee turned tail and ran and left her in the theater with the kids.

Reminds me of the tale of Brave Sir Robin:

"Brave Sir Robin ran away.
Bravely ran away, away!
When danger reared its ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Sir Robin!

He is packing it in and packing it up
And sneaking away and buggering up
And chickening out and pissing off home,
Yes, bravely he is throwing in the sponge..."

[joeswamp]

Reminds me of this:

http://youtu.be/URvMd-pjSMc

[oldgoat]

Originally Posted by James E

Here's a story about a guy who helped a young mother with her two children in the theater shooting. He and the mother both got shot but made it. I applaud him.

http://news.yahoo.com/dark-knight-ri...es.html?_esi=1

What they don't go into with the story is the fact that the woman's fiancee turned tail and ran and left her in the theater with the kids.

Well they did have the little comment that she was at the movie with her fiancee but that was as far as it went. Yeah I would hope that he is her former fiancee. However I would also guess that most would hope that they would stay and do whatever it took to help, but nobody knows until it actually happens. I would have a hard time living with myself knowing that I didn't stay to help my family.

[James E]

Nope, nobody knows how they will react but if I am ever in a life-threatening situation and I run away and leave my wife and kids to die, I give you all permission to make fun of me as much as you want.

When you hear him blubber through his interview, it's full of rationalizations and nonsense. He's morally weak and I feel sorry for her and the kids.

[ddawg16]

Here in lies one of the traits that seperate the sheep from the sheep dogs....

[Joe B.]

So I was on vacation without TV or internet and just got back today so I'm confused. My understanding wast that this was a midnight showing. So this lady had an infant at a midnight showing of a movie? I'm glad she is Ok but I don't think she is qualified to be a parent if my understanding is correct.

[oldgoat]

Originally Posted by ddawg16

Here in lies one of the traits that seperate the sheep from the sheep dogs....

Oh please let's don't get started on the BS sheepdog thing again.

[oldgoat]

Originally Posted by Joe B.

So I was on vacation without TV or internet and just got back today so I'm confused. My understanding wast that this was a midnight showing. So this lady had an infant at a midnight showing of a movie? I'm glad she is Ok but I don't think she is qualified to be a parent if my understanding is correct.

I don't think it disqualifies anybody by going to the midnight showing. Many families bring their kids of all ages to late shows. It's the summer, no school, they can sleep in. Not that big a deal normally.

[28HopUp]

Here is the ABC story which quotes the guy in his own words...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/couple-colo...ry?id=16821447

[zacker01]

man, i cant imagine what Id do in that situation... run, hide, play dead, thats crazy stuff... I often wonder, at times like these.. if the terrorists from other countries look at this stuff and think we are just plain crazy.. I mean, in their minds, they have a reason, an agenda, but what are they thinking about ANOTHER crazy American just randomly shooting up a theater or school just because?

[ChrisF250]

Don't want to start a new thread but for those with twitter, Check this out. Kevin Garnett is class act, one in few these days.

https://twitter.com/realkg5/status/227154064687890432

Edit; looks like it ended, 65k

[johno]

Originally Posted by James E

Here's a story about a guy who helped a young mother with her two children in the theater shooting. He and the mother both got shot but made it. I applaud him.

http://news.yahoo.com/dark-knight-ri...es.html?_esi=1

What they don't go into with the story is the fact that the woman's fiancee turned tail and ran and left her in the theater with the kids.

Reminds me of the tale of Brave Sir Robin:

"Brave Sir Robin ran away.
Bravely ran away, away!
When danger reared its ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Sir Robin!

He is packing it in and packing it up
And sneaking away and buggering up
And chickening out and pissing off home,
Yes, bravely he is throwing in the sponge..."

I didn't, i never.... love that part.

[Trucky]

Until you get shot at by someone who intends to maim/kill you, you do not know how you will react. Call me an ass, but even with training, it's rediculous to think that you'll automatically go into HERO MODE and do the stuff you see in the movies.

[richfinn]

Originally Posted by Joe B.

So I was on vacation without TV or internet and just got back today so I'm confused. My understanding wast that this was a midnight showing. So this lady had an infant at a midnight showing of a movie? I'm glad she is Ok but I don't think she is qualified to be a parent if my understanding is correct.

This is what struck me, in the UK movies are certified by the censors. Why would they let babies and infants into a noisy violent movie at midnight??

[signcrafter]

Originally Posted by Trucky

Until you get shot at by someone who intends to maim/kill you, you do not know how you will react. Call me an ass, but even with training, it's rediculous to think that you'll automatically go into HERO MODE and do the stuff you see in the movies.

I understand what you're saying but when it comes to your kids the natural reaction of a parent(at least one worth being a parent) is to put your kids life before yours.

[James E]

Originally Posted by Trucky

Until you get shot at by someone who intends to maim/kill you, you do not know how you will react. Call me an ass, but even with training, it's rediculous to think that you'll automatically go into HERO MODE and do the stuff you see in the movies.

It's not hero mode to protect your wife and kids--or at least stick around long enough to make sure they make it out ok. That's what a good Dad does for a baby--he holds onto you until you're out of danger. He doesn't drop you on the floor and run like a scalded cat and leave his wounded woman to get them out alive with the help of some random stranger.

Like I said, when it hits the fan I may run like a dog, too. But if I do, don't make pansy-a$$ed excuses for me. Just call me a chicken and I'll just have to accept it.

Once again, despicable behavior that's black and white is being justified by some members who only see in shades of gray. It's this kind of moral relativism that is the problem with society today. The guy literally put his baby down and ran. If anyone thinks that's justified in any way by any circumstances, then I'm glad that person is not my Dad--because not only is that person morally lacking, but he's passing on to his kids that kind of defeatist, cowardly mentality.

[csp]

Originally Posted by Joe B.

I'm glad she is Ok but I don't think she is qualified to be a parent if my understanding is correct.

Unfortunately there is no test you have to pass in order to become a parent.

[oldgoat]

Originally Posted by James E

It's not hero mode to protect your wife and kids--or at least stick around long enough to make sure they make it out ok. That's what a good Dad does for a baby--he holds onto you until you're out of danger. He doesn't drop you on the floor and run like a scalded cat and leave his wounded woman to get them out alive with the help of some random stranger.

Like I said, when it hits the fan I may run like a dog, too. But if I do, don't make pansy-a$$ed excuses for me. Just call me a chicken and I'll just have to accept it.

Once again, despicable behavior that's black and white is being justified by some members who only see in shades of gray. It's this kind of moral relativism that is the problem with society today. The guy literally put his baby down and ran. If anyone thinks that's justified in any way by any circumstances, then I'm glad that person is not my Dad--because not only is that person morally lacking, but he's passing on to his kids that kind of defeatist, cowardly mentality.

Actually that was the couple that I saw on TV and he was bawling about how terrible it was and then they said that he had asked her to marry him and she had accepted.

[carhunter]

Originally Posted by oldgoat

Actually that was the couple that I saw on TV and he was bawling about how terrible it was and then they said that he had asked her to marry him and she had accepted.

Wasn't that Sandra Bullock's line in Speed?

..."I'd like to think this will last, but statistically relationships formed under stress don't last..."

[cdseven95]

Originally Posted by richfinn

This is what struck me, in the UK movies are certified by the censors. Why would they let babies and infants into a noisy violent movie at midnight??

It is PG-13.. Under 13 needs to go in with either a parent or guardian. A infant will not understand/ remember the movie.. The issue is more of its selfish to bring a infant (that's going to cry/make noise) to a loud movie because of the fact its annoying to everyone else. But the child was there, wrong or right, its a sad story