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Old 07-25-2012, 07:33 PM   #1
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I am getting ready to build a 40x40 and really like the look of split face block. Does anyone have experience with it? Any leaks in the block? Any responses will be greatly appreciated.
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Old 07-25-2012, 08:03 PM   #2
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Not only is the block more expensive, you'll also pay more to have it laid. That's becasue the block layer has to lift it over the string vs. sliding it to it.
They HATE split faced block.

When I did my garage, the first 3 courses were done with regular block and the top full and half were split face. Could have gotten by with just the top half course split, but there are a couple places the second course shows a bit.

But it looks nicer...

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Old 07-25-2012, 09:12 PM   #3
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i was inspecting a job where they had split face block. The masons were UNION men, and proud of it. They argued over how to lay the SF--True to the inside ( smooth) face, true to the outside, split face side, or split the difference.
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Old 07-25-2012, 09:39 PM   #4
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i was inspecting a job where they had split face block. The masons were UNION men, and proud of it. They argued over how to lay the SF--True to the inside ( smooth) face, true to the outside, split face side, or split the difference.
LOL

Good thing they aren't laying sod!!!
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:16 PM   #5
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i was inspecting a job where they had split face block. The masons were UNION men, and proud of it. They argued over how to lay the SF--True to the inside ( smooth) face, true to the outside, split face side, or split the difference.
What did they decide?
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:20 PM   #6
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Almost all your current "big box" stores are built with SFB.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:49 PM   #7
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I laid my own split face block. No harder, or easier than flat faced.

don't buy it from Home depot or other box stores. They don't carry corner or half blocks, and you will probably get a mix of different batches.

The same block, from the same supplier can look very different between batches.

As far as whining about laying split faced block, I'd chock it up to just being union.
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:04 PM   #8
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My 36 x 42 garage was built using split face block. Yes it cost me more, both to buy and to have laid. The increased labor cost did not come from being split face but from being heavy block vs lightweight block. There is more charge for laying heavy block.

The main reason I chose split face block is because a plain block wall is not real pretty. I have a corner lot and mine is the first house located in the subdivision. In fact everyone sees my garage before they see my house. My garage with the split face walls looks much nicer to everyone who comes into our subdivision.
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Old 07-26-2012, 12:39 AM   #9
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No experience with it personally, but being in the Chicago area, I have heard of issues like this:

http://blogs.wttw.com/moreonthestory.../leaky-condos/

Like with anything, the installation needs to be done right.
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:54 PM   #10
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I am getting ready to build a 40x40 and really like the look of split face block. Does anyone have experience with it? Any leaks in the block? Any responses will be greatly appreciated.
If you don't plan on painting the block you'll want to use "Dry-Block" additive in the mortar, as well as find block that where built with "Dry-Block." To give you an idea, here it's getting increasingly harder to find split-face block that DON'T have "Dry-Block" in them. If you're painting the exterior, it's less of a concern.

And as for having to lay splitface block over the line, it's not necessary in most cases, you just lay your block from the other side of the wall in most cases........
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Old 07-26-2012, 07:41 PM   #11
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My brother didnt have any trouble laying the SFB on my retaining wall. We made caps out of some old 8 inch block that I scored and whacked with a hammer
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Old 07-27-2012, 08:55 AM   #12
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I sold split face block for 4 years dealing with builders, block layers and architects.

The two big things to remember that are critical to the end result are, design everything to suit the unit gauge, [in length and height] and lay it clean with a good damp proof course. It cannot be cleaned with hydrochloric acid as that will etch the block face and it needs to be protected from the elements until the mortar has cured.

I have attached a link to the construction specification guides and brochures we give to builders to ensure they get it laid right.

Use a waterproofing additive in the mortar and if your structure has no eaves, coat it with a penetrative sealer to reduce water access through the wall. Efflorescence can be a real problem due to the way water can easily saturate the block to the core.

It is also laid to a string line along the back of the block.

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Old 07-31-2012, 09:17 PM   #13
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Y'all are scaring me...you guys think I should go for split face or Hardie plank
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:24 PM   #14
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what is split face block?????
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:26 PM   #15
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what is split face block for those of us who have never used blocks???????
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:22 AM   #16
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I have done a couple of split face buildings and they much more street appeal than regular painted block. I have found that it is wise to have them sprayed with water proofing to keep the rain water from penetrating the block.
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Not only is the block more expensive, you'll also pay more to have it laid. That's becasue the block layer has to lift it over the string vs. sliding it to it.
They HATE split faced block.
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Almost all your current "big box" stores are built with SFB.
Double wide blocks "split" to produce 2 irregular faces before they enter the kiln.
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:50 AM   #18
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They are split after they leave the kiln.
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i was inspecting a job where they had split face block. The masons were UNION men, and proud of it. They argued over how to lay the SF--True to the inside ( smooth) face, true to the outside, split face side, or split the difference.
Tradesmen taught different ways to do things, you can find that any place that crews that normally don't work together and are on the same job site. You'll get the same between different trades too, carpenters, masons, plumbers or electricians, it has nothing to do with being a union member.

The same thing goes for inspectors too, some work with the construction guys and other create nothing but problems for them and the homeowners. Keep reading GJ and you'll find quite a few hate stories for the inspectors.
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Ever seen a building like these in the link ? That's spilt face block.

http://superiorblock.com/Split_Face.html
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