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Old 12-30-2013, 11:47 AM   #121
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Default Re: Who else has started to hoard incandescent light bulbs?

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When CFLs were the new rage I switched over thinking it was a good idea.
I gave them a shot.
As they all burned out rather quickly, I replaced them with incandescents which on average last much longer for me.

Much happier with the light overall.
Instant light.

The cfl flood light I tried in our motion detectors were a joke.
Any intruder would have been a block away before there would have been enough light to see them.

How much light do some of you use to see those kind of savings?
We turn off the lights when we are not using them.
The size of our electric bill has little to do with lighting.

Call me a dinosaur, but I am happy to never have to buy another cfl.

Funny how all of the do it yourselfer that can do almost anything find it too hard to change an occasional light bulb.
Sorry....but I don't buy any of that....except for maybe the motion detector....especially if you have one that wants to dim the bulb.

Electric bill? When you consider that lighting accounts for about 30% of electric usage, I'm sure going to all CFL or LED would make a significant impact.

The only incandescent bulbs in my house is the oven.

I haven't changed a lightbulb in years. I bet you can't say that.
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Old 12-30-2013, 12:01 PM   #122
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Whether you buy it or not, it is fact.
My workshop is full of fluorescent fixtures and I am happy with them.
Not so when I tried them in the house.

I have not changed a bulb in a couple of years (does that count as years?).
So what, changing a light bulb is not something I am incapable of.


If they work for you, great.
They did not work out for me.
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Old 12-30-2013, 12:12 PM   #123
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I sold our last pack of hundred watters to a buddy of mine at work last week, still have plenty of 75s and are starting to get people asking about led. I am switching to LEDs as the CFLs burn out.
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Old 12-30-2013, 12:32 PM   #124
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Here's a source for incandescent light bulbs(they got around the ban, as their products are "industry rated"):

http://www.newcandescent.com/
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Old 12-30-2013, 12:42 PM   #125
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Only real problem I can see with no available supply of regular incandescent bulbs is in machine work. You need incandescent light when working with anything that is spinning. Fluorescent lighting won't let you see the drill press/mill/lathe spinning.
The way I understand it, heavy duty incandescent will still be available. Good thing because I rely on the them to keep the pump shed warm!
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Old 12-30-2013, 12:50 PM   #126
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Check this out : )

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...ight-bulb-ban/
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Old 12-30-2013, 12:50 PM   #127
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Zombie thread brought back to life...
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Old 12-30-2013, 01:22 PM   #128
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I heard that Jan 1, 2014 the 60watt and 40 watt go away.
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Old 12-30-2013, 01:27 PM   #129
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I don't know about "hoard" them, but I did buy three cases of 24 from the local bulb wholesaler.....that should last me for quite a while......
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Old 12-30-2013, 01:29 PM   #130
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thank you again to my fucked up federal gov't for another strain on the public


I have plenty of 60 watts stashed away, which is what I use

does anyone know if the "candelabra" or chandelier incands are going as well?

I don't want those stupid govt pile of shit looking CFL bulbs in my chandeliers either.

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Old 12-30-2013, 02:06 PM   #131
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As I am forced to change to CFL's etc, I expect my furnace to run more often because (as was alluded to earlier) the bulbs provide part of my living space heat. Light and heat from one package - how nice! So, that's why the furnace will have to run more. Where's the savings?

Summer time - air conditioning, you say? Well, it is lighter in the Summer so we have the lamps on much, much less - an insignificant increase in the house temp so the air conditioner is unaffected.

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Old 12-30-2013, 02:07 PM   #132
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Not necessary to hoard, this guy found away around it feds and is producing and selling incandescent light bulbs

AMERICAN INGENUITY BYPASSES INCANDESCENT BAN
Company delivering 100-watt bulbs despite new law


Not even the full power of the feared federal government can quash the ingenuity and free enterprise that runs through the veins of American entrepreneurs.
Take, for example, the national ban on incandescent light bulbs in favor of low-energy units. Seventy-five watt and higher incandescent bulbs dropped off store shelves a year ago, and the popular 40s and 60s will disappear Jan. 1.
A New Jersey company owner already has ramped up production of a new product, called a “Newcandescent,” which is available now in many voltages, including 75 watt and 100 watt.
Larry Birnbaum, owner of the Light Bulb Store in South Hackensack, says the new low-energy requirements for bulbs means something had to change. Consumers would have to move to other light sources, compact fluorescents or LEDS, which he sells, he said.
Or, he could start marketing an incandescent bulb that apparently is exempt from the new energy rules: the “rough service” bulb.
Normally a small portion of the market, the “rough service” bulbs are made for less-stable conditions, such as in a moving vehicle.
But he told New Jersey.com that he made a few changes to the typical “rough” incandescent to meet new federal standards, “including using krypton gas to make it last 10 times longer.”
His website offers them in sizes ranging from 25 watts and up. One hundred, 200 and 300 watts are no problem. Frosted and clear. In flood and globe sizes.
He sells the “60-Watt Rough Service A-19 Frosted Bulb” for $2.88 for four. It operates at 130 volts and “is proudly made in the U.S.A. and fulfills all US Department of Energy regulations. The average lifespan of a Newcandescent 60-watt bulb, the site says, is seven years, or 10,000 hours.
The Newcandescents are not as energy-efficient as some alternatives, but they provide a more natural light that consumers have grown accustomed to over the years.
It is true that the traditional bulbs are going away due to a 2007 law that requires, as of Jan. 1, a 40 watt bulb to draw just 10.5 watts of electricity and a 60 watt bulb to draw just 11 watts.
Those levels are achieved more readily with alternative products, such as compact fluorescent bulbs, experts say.
The law makes it illegal to import or make such bulbs starting Jan. 1. Home Depot spokesman Mark Voykovic told Fox News his chain anticipates running out of their stock of 40-watt to 60- watt bulbs six months into 2014.
The issue for some people is that CFLs emit a pale blue (5,000-6,500 Kelvin) or whiter (3,500-4,100K) light. It doesn’t match the familiar glow of an incandescent light bulb (2,700-3,000K).
Decorator Bunny Williams told the New York Times in 2011 she had been hoarding traditional bulbs for years.
Another problem with CFLs is their price, several dollars per bulb. LEDs are sold in the range of $12 or $13 per bulb.
Birnbaum said he plans to start shipping the alternative bulbs in January for about $1.65 each.
WND previously has reported concerns about the safety of compact fluorescents, which contain mercury. The 2007 law also didn’t address issues raised by a study in the United Kingdom that concluded CFLs “are a fire hazard that could burn down your home.”
In Congress, Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., has proposed overturning the ban unless it could be shown that CFLs do not present a safety risk.
WND reported a team of some 15 members of the U.S. House, including Bachmann, introduced H.R. 91 to repeal parts of the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007, which has been described as a “de facto ban” on the incandescent light bulb.
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At the time, Bachmann said: “The government has no business telling an individual what kind of light bulb to buy. In 2007, Congress overstepped its bounds by mandating that only ‘energy efficient’ light bulbs may be sold after Jan. 1, 2012. This mandate has sweeping effects on American families and businesses and needs serious consideration before taking effect.”
Phyllis Schlafly, founder and president of Eagle Forum, said the government was stepping into the ludicrous with its ban.
“CFLs are so toxic because of the mercury in the glass tubing that the cleanup procedure spelled out by the Environmental Protection Agency is downright scary. The EPA warns that if we break a CFL, we must take the pieces to a recycling center and not launder ‘clothing or bedding because mercury fragments in the clothing may contaminate the machine and/or pollute sewage,’” she wrote at the time the ban began.
“CFLs must be rather dangerous if they will pollute the sewage,” she said.
Members of Congress have noted CFL drawbacks:
• Most CFLs are not manufactured in the United States. A Washington Post story reported that GE is shuttering a plant in Winchester, Va., killing 200 jobs in the process.
• CFLs contain mercury and have to be disposed of carefully. The amount of mercury in one bulb is enough to contaminate up to 6,000 gallons of water beyond safe drinking levels. The EPA recommends an elaborate cleanup ritual, including throwing away any clothes or bedding that has come in direct contact with the mercury from the bulb.
• CFLs are not designed to be turned off and on frequently; the lifespan of a CFL may be reduced by up to 85 percent if it’s switch off and on a lot.
• People with certain health conditions can be harmed by CFLs. Reactions range from disabling eczema-like reactions to light sensitivities that can lead to skin cancer.
• And the Energy Star program warns that CFLs can overheat and smoke.
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Old 12-30-2013, 02:10 PM   #134
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By the way, the Federal Law concerning efficiency has a provision such that, if "rough service" sales increase to a significant portion of total sales, then they are no longer exempt.

Incandescent bulbs are not illegal.
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Old 12-30-2013, 02:15 PM   #135
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Now I put up with a bit of delay to full brightness with the CFL's in my closets because I don't want a lot of heat in a small closet
Unless you leave them on for a long time, you're wasting money. CFLs do not like frequent switching - kills them in short order.

This is something that's never been promoted by the folks who sell CFLs. But it's probably responsible for 99% of the complaints that "My curly bulbs don't last!"

Use CFLs in fixtures that go on and stay on. Use halogen or LED in fixtures that are frequently switched on and off.
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Old 12-30-2013, 02:19 PM   #136
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Yes, don't let any science get in the way of that stuff...

And you can buy 2 halogen bulbs for the price of one of his "rough service" bulbs.
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Old 12-30-2013, 02:27 PM   #137
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yep, almost identical :





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Old 12-30-2013, 02:28 PM   #138
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Not me.

I switched to CFL's 8 or 10 years ago and never looked back.
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Old 12-30-2013, 02:45 PM   #139
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How many Garage Journal members does it take to change a light bulb?

10 guys to argue about which type is best.
10 guys to argue about which wattage is best.
3 guys to argue about the height if the ladder needed.
3 guys to argue about what the ladder should be made of.
1 guy that swears he checks all of his lightbulbs with a Fluke meter before installation.
3 guys that argue that an HF meter will work just fine.
1 guy that uses anti-seize in the sockets.
1 guy that sticks his finger in the socket to test for power.
2 guys that suggest monitoring voltage variation for 72 hours to find cause of burned out bulbs.
5 guys that argue about whether the power should be shut off.
1 guy that calls the utility company for assistance.
2 guys that got pissed off and quit their jobs when the boss asked them to change a lightbulb.
4 guys that complain that their neighbors never change their lightbulbs.
8 guys that just say "it depends".
12 guys that say "you should be fine".
3 real electricians.
7 guys that sound like they're electricians but they're really not.
1 guy that's not sure if you unscrew clockwise or counterclockwise.
1 guy that asks if it's ok to use channelocks to loosen or tighten.
2 guys that can't be bothered and leave it up to their wives.
1 guy that blames his burned out bulbs on obamacare.
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Old 12-30-2013, 02:55 PM   #140
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How many Garage Journal members does it take to change a light bulb?

10 guys to argue about which type is best.
10 guys to argue about which wattage is best.
3 guys to argue about the height if the ladder needed.
3 guys to argue about what the ladder should be made of.
1 guy that swears he checks all of his lightbulbs with a Fluke meter before installation.
3 guys that argue that an HF meter will work just fine.
1 guy that uses anti-seize in the sockets.
1 guy that sticks his finger in the socket to test for power.
2 guys that suggest monitoring voltage variation for 72 hours to find cause of burned out bulbs.
5 guys that argue about whether the power should be shut off.
1 guy that calls the utility company for assistance.
2 guys that got pissed off and quit their jobs when the boss asked them to change a lightbulb.
4 guys that complain that their neighbors never change their lightbulbs.
8 guys that just say "it depends".
12 guys that say "you should be fine".
3 real electricians.
7 guys that sound like they're electricians but they're really not.
1 guy that's not sure if you unscrew clockwise or counterclockwise.
1 guy that asks if it's ok to use channelocks to loosen or tighten.
2 guys that can't be bothered and leave it up to their wives.
1 guy that blames his burned out bulbs on obamacare.
^^^^


can I be the last guy?

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