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Old 05-30-2013, 02:45 PM   #1
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Finally going to cave and start a thread here. My wife and I Just bough our first house a few months ago, and tucked into the back corner of the property is the PO's early 90's kit-garage. 12'x22' of blank slate, since they never did much to it. My goal is to chronicle some of the changes this building will undergo and some of the projects I will have to do in it.



Been on here for a while but never really posted, though I check it daily. hopefully I can make a habit of posting my progress, if for no other reason than my own sake. Hope whoever reads enjoys!
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Old 05-30-2013, 03:00 PM   #2
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To start, this building is a small single car garage tucked into a small 1940's era Bungalow lot, so I don't have acres and acres to sprawl over. Moreover, being in my early-mid 20's, I don't have vast reserves of cash that will allow me to create a garage like many that I've seen on here. This place has to be practical, versatile, affordable, and moreover, an enjoyable place to work.

Getting down to the roots,



This is the shop from the outside, 1/2 lapped siding and the 'unseen' sides painted plywood. The aging roof has been shedding shingles lately, so it's slated for a new steel roof hopefully this summer.

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Not much here when I bought it, by the time we moved in it was gutted down to just the bench and that steel cart, plus some hideous old shelving unit and some lumber in the rafters. The solid-core door is vaguely fastened down to the aging cupboards and the floor seems to flood when it rains because the outside grading is above the sill.

However, this garage has some perks. built in 1994, it's relatively new compared to the circa 1940 house, and sports a reinforced floor with 2x6 walls. The windows and side entrance from the yard will make it more usable, and the 10x10 shed will take the pure junk so I don't have to store it in here.

first steps, get everything in.

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Old 05-30-2013, 03:09 PM   #3
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As with many new home-owners, all the stuff i didnt feel like sorting right away just went into the garage. It would be a couple months before I got some sense of organization started in here.



Picked up some free cabinets from the local weekly sales event (garbage day). The way I figure with free stuff from the garbage is if you don't use it, just put it back down at the curb.
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Old 05-30-2013, 03:31 PM   #4
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Phase 1 has been just starting to organize and get a few little things done here and there. With an old house, a lot of other projects take precedence, so the workshop just has to wait it's turn sometimes.



started getting the tool boxes full again, and shuffled some drawer units around. As much as I dont like this solid core door, it's going to have to do for now.



Got a little more organization on the wall here. Turns out the studs are spaced perfectly for fitting GOJO -Corporate Plug-. Solved my flooding problem during a rainstorm recently by vigorously digging a trench down the side of the garage to help drain off a bit of the standing water, will backfill with coarse stone soon for drainage.





The garage as it sits now. Been updating our old houses electrical service from 60Amps to 200 Amps, so that's taking a good chunk of my time (as I write this, the upgrade was just approved by ESA. Having 200A in a 850sqft house is like stuffing a supercharged big block into a K-car... you're never, ever, going to be lacking power). My plan is to run 60Amps to a pony panel in the garage. I know 60A may seem like overkill for a 260sqft garage, but when you consider a welding circuit, lighting, standard 15A circuit, and a circuit for the shed, it's just about right.
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Old 05-30-2013, 03:56 PM   #5
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The aging 60Amp service in the house was pretty hopeless, and it didn't help matters much that at some point in the past, when the PO ran out of available bays for a new breaker, they would just shove the new branch into an existing breaker (sometimes allowable, but not to the extent mine was).



Although there is nothing wrong persay with the panel itself, the service is now deemed too small to meet code. I could either upgrade to 100Amp or for a little bit more, double that and never have to worry. Guess which one I did.



Slotted a 200Amp panel in the basement (the old one was in a cupboard on the main floor). Since I had to mount a new mast, meterbase, and conduit anyways, making the step from 100A to 200A wasnt that big a deal. The big perk is that now it allows me to run a 60A branch to the garage, which should allow me to do a whole lot more in a small space.
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Old 05-30-2013, 04:02 PM   #6
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Are you sure workshop ''88'' is a good title ?
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Old 05-31-2013, 10:28 AM   #7
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Are you sure workshop ''88'' is a good title ?
Oh, well, 1988 was the year I was born, and, it's a workshop. Aside from the rather ghastly Olds 88 of similar vintage, I don't know of a reason why not.

Have I missed something?
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I see no pics! blarg! hehe.

Good luck with it!
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I see no pics! blarg! hehe.

Good luck with it!
That should fix it, thanks for the heads up
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Why not do a 100a to the garage and never worry about it again either?
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Why not do a 100a to the garage and never worry about it again either?
Dont tempt me . Namely it's a cost thing. The existing conduit will take AWG6 for a 60A panel, plus I already have the wire (got 30M free)... Free is hard to beat these days. Plus, in 12x22.. I dont think i'll ever exceed 60; if I do it's probably time for a bigger garage.
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Cool little garage. Nice use of the spacing in between the studs. I like the "use what you've got" mentality.
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Cool little garage. Nice use of the spacing in between the studs. I like the "use what you've got" mentality.
Thanks Patent, It's small but I've already done a few projects in it. I'm a fan of using what I've got, or finding a way to re-use what I find.
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Assuming it was built with 2"x6" studs for future insulation. Is that on your agenda?

60 amps is most likely all you will need. I have 70 amps in my 30" x 40" shop and it handles my heat pump with enough left over to turn on all the lights and weld. You should be OK.
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Did some concept sketches for what I hope to end up with at some point. Just roughed it in but the requirements are pretty basic:

- the garage must be able to house a car/Jeep should need arise to work on one

- must be able to handle wood-work, metal work, and mechanical work, among other tasks

- must be able to store everything in a neat and tidy way, with provision for the addition of future tools.



The first thing you'll notice in the sketch is lots of cupboards. in such a small space, cupboards tucked up around the perimeter will be crucial for retaining floor space. On the right is the 30ton shop press (which I still havent moved), with jackstands in behind. Dual fire extinguishers for combating the inevitable blaze at some point, a small Jack Olsen inspired steel topped bench, a grinder bench, drill press bench, tool cart, desktop pc, and the main bench on the far left end. Lots of lighting too here, plus the windows to make it a nice bright space. Bright workspaces generally make for higher quality work in my opinion.



In the second image, starting on the left, are 2 fold down tables, welding and wood-working, again swiped from Jack's garage. To be fair, Jack's was the first garage I saw on GJ, which inspired me to do this in the first place. More cupboards, and tool cabinets on this side too. My recently acquired $50 Myford lathe will go where the 2 tool carts are, and I'll tuck them under each end of the island workbench. the whiteboard will be on hinges so it can swing out for storage in behind. I use whiteboards daily at work, so I find them irreplaceable when designing on the fly. Finally, the small numbered boxes are tip open containers for hardware, like you find at a big-box store.
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60 amps is most likely all you will need. I have 70 amps in my 30" x 40" shop and it handles my heat pump with enough left over to turn on all the lights and weld. You should be OK.
Since our winters last about 6-7 months, i'm glad they built with 2x6's. this way I can fill in between with rigid or batten insulation and then wall over it. With all the cupboards and a 10x10 shed I hope to be good for storage, so I wont miss the 'inter-stud' shelving. I'll have to figure out heating at a later date though.. either electric or possibly a (very) small woodstove in the back corner beside the workbench.
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Neat little space. I'm interested to see where this is going.

88 is also a neo-nazi thing, and represents Heil, Hitler. That may be what Stanimal was referring to.
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Neat little space. I'm interested to see where this is going.

88 is also a neo-nazi thing, and represents Heil, Hitler. That may be what Stanimal was referring to.
Thanks!

Ya, I googled it. Hoping people figure i'm just a guy with a garage, nothin sinister. Hey, if I was Chinese, 88's a pretty lucky number. Didn't know that piece of info before though. I guess lots of stuff is represented by 88. A few interstates, A Nascar Number, etc etc. Thanks for the info though, wasnt my intent to put anyone off, just based it on the year I was born (as in, est.1988).
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Like the way you think . Be happy and do with what you have thats great .Ive never been to proud to pickup curb treasures. lol. 1mans trash is anothers treasure. I sure dont have a money tree and wasnt born with a silver spoon in mouth . So I get by too.
Maybe you will like this: The Eleventh commandment at my house is Thou shalt Park at least one car in the garage. I think its a sin that people have garages full of stuff they wont ever use or dont know where to find. My brag is that if you came to me and sked for something I can find it within a couple min . or I dont need it or I need to re organize.
My wife has on occasion called me from work lkn 4 somthng . I ask her where she is and point her in right dir. I hav misplaced some GFI outlets but it was since I was in an acc and had aconcussion . cant remem what I did with them . Its drvn me crzy! Hope i find em 2 min is way up lol
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Thanks! Always helps not to have too much clutter, though I do admit I'm a bit of a packrat. I'll keep the garage open for a car as long as I can... Kind of what makes it a garage I guess. Being a single car garage though means that during any project, cars are always outside.
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