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Old 06-07-2013, 12:17 AM   #1
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Default Permit requirements for Home Depot shed?

I bought a $300 8x10 Home Depot shed to install in my backyard. There is already a concrete pad in the backyard, but I need to expand two edges by about 2 feet in each direction.

I started researching permit requirements here for Orlando, FL and was blown away; sign off by a civil engineer or an architect? A Wind Survey by a licensed civil engineer?

I filled out as much as I can, and may go to the permit office in the morning, but do you think these engineering requirements are necessary for a simple shed kit from Home Depot? I have the building permit, copies of the construction documents (directions that came with the shed), and the site plans updated (hand drawn on copies, over the existing pad). Seems like ridiculous overkill. I'm thankful there's no HOA to deal with.

Is this a common occurrence, or is the process going to be painful?
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:28 AM   #2
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Permit regulations vary by municipality and state regulations. Areas with higher population densities, large cities, areas with higher real estate values, especially if they're newer will probably have more restrictions. I'm guessing the fact that you're in Orlando doesn't do you any favors. Florida gets hurricanes so there might be state regulations, Orlando is a major tourist destination, the housing prices seem decent, and the population density is high. All of those usually mean more regulations.

Before you go to the permit office you might want to consider a few things. Do you have any idea how much the architect and wind survey might cost? It depends on the permit office and people who work there, but once you notify them you could wind up with a bureaucratic nightmare like in the movie Brazil. Alternately they might be able to tell you everything you need to know and whether there might be canned plans for a readily available shed.

Have you though about going to the office with the information about the shed and just asking what the procedure would be if you decided to purchase the shed. A theoretical question will take an extra visit to the permit office, but it might cause less complications than starting with paperwork already filled out.
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:31 AM   #3
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Default Re: Permit requirements for Home Depot shed?

The city I'm moving to has similar requirements in Suburban Chicago. (Except for the wind stuff.) I'm curious house this turns out for you as I had the same reaction when I read the requirements.
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:37 AM   #4
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Default Re: Permit requirements for Home Depot shed?

Here in N IL, our little village requires a $350 permit to put up a shed! If the shed is under 64 sq feet, you don't need one!

Forgot to mention, if you have a second garage, your not allowed a shed!

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Old 06-07-2013, 05:58 AM   #5
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Default Re: Permit requirements for Home Depot shed?

The wind survey is for hurricanes, and was probably put in place to prevent idiots from randomly slapping ply-wood together and creating a structure that wouldn't survive a small storm.

I know if you go with some of the pre-built sheds they come with wind certifications. There MAY be such a thing with the Home Depot models as well.



Really, the only way code enforcement will find the shed is if someone complains. UNLESS you live in a historic area that is heavily enforced.
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Old 06-07-2013, 06:33 AM   #6
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Default Re: Permit requirements for Home Depot shed?

By the way, Home Depot is a retailer. They don't design, manufacture, or build sheds. Find out who the supplier is. In Illinois mostly it seems to be TuffShed but your area may be different.
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Old 06-07-2013, 06:40 AM   #7
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Holy crap ! Here in East Tennessee the permit for my 30x40 garage was only 50 bucks. No "surveys" or any other such silliness. A shed ? No permits at all. In exchange for me getting the garage the wife got a 10x16 shed to use as a sewing studio and when the building inspector came to check out the garage he saw it and never said a word.
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:01 AM   #8
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Default Re: Permit requirements for Home Depot shed?

It all depends on where you live. Here a shed with a wood floor that is less than 12'x12 does not require a permit. A 40'x60' barn with a dirt/ gravel floor does not require a permit???
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:27 AM   #9
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my town requires a permit for sheds over 100 sq ft. The permit fee is 50 bucks, but you need to submit a plot survey not the one used for your mortgage, a detailed map of where the shed is going, then the building inspector will need to approve after the conservation committee comes out to make sure its not on or near wetlands. Needless to say I built a 8x12 so i didn't have to go through this bs.
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:29 AM   #10
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It all depends on where you live. Here a shed with a wood floor that is less than 12'x12 does not require a permit. A 40'x60' barn with a dirt/ gravel floor does not require a permit???
Interesting, I think I have to hit the books more often.
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:54 AM   #11
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Default Re: Permit requirements for Home Depot shed?

As someone has stated before, find out the manufacturer, and see what they have to offer. In my line of work, I often need to provide structural and wind load calculations for permitting. All the manufacturers I use provide that information upon request, so it's pretty simple. See if you can get some of that info, then head into the permit office to see what else they might need.

Little advice on the permit office visit. Like most people, they will respond better to organized customers who are not overly pushy/ standoffish. Walking in completely unprepared usually gets met with suspicion about how well thought out the building idea is.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:01 AM   #12
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Holy crap ! Here in East Tennessee the permit for my 30x40 garage was only 50 bucks. No "surveys" or any other such silliness. A shed ? No permits at all. In exchange for me getting the garage the wife got a 10x16 shed to use as a sewing studio and when the building inspector came to check out the garage he saw it and never said a word.
I'm w/ the bandit, some of these permit price gouges are absurd. Put the shed down, secure w/ anchor bolts, and plead the 5th. "It was there when I bought the house."

How much to put a gas grill on the patio??
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:17 AM   #13
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Default Re: Permit requirements for Home Depot shed?

How much to change a light switch?

I my city it is no permit requirement for a storage shed with a floor area of 120 sq ft or less.

One-story detached accessory buildings used as tool and storage sheds, playhouses and similar uses, and constructed on a parcel approved for the construction of one detached single family dwelling provided:

The floor area does not exceed 120 square feet.
The maximum height above adjacent grade shall not exceed 8 feet.
The maximum length to width ratio of the building shall not exceed 2:1.
The building shall not be located closer than 5 feet from any other building on the site.
Electrical, plumbing or mechanical installations are prohibited.
Accessory buildings must be located behind the front wall of the dwelling unit and screened by a 6 foot fence or wall.
The number of exempt accessory buildings on the site shall be limited to two.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:48 AM   #14
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Default Re: Permit requirements for Home Depot shed?

I too live in Orlando (Northwest Orange County). I just went through the same permitting. It was such a nightmare I hired a specialist to do all of the leg work. It was so much easier. And it kept me out of jail. I have very little tolerance for gov't idiots. Fortunately the inspector was a very cool guy. Everything went well.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:53 AM   #15
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Default Re: Permit requirements for Home Depot shed?

Permit for a shed? Unheard of here. Built on skids means it has no foundation so to speak, thus, its not a building. But in the city they will measure your property and tell you the maximum size you can have.

Example:

Our trailer is 14x70 with a garage 24x24. Our lot is roughly 165x60 and could only go with a 12x14 shed when my dad really wanted a 14x16..
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:06 AM   #16
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I'm w/ the bandit, some of these permit price gouges are absurd. Put the shed down, secure w/ anchor bolts, and plead the 5th. "It was there when I bought the house."

How much to put a gas grill on the patio??
That was the idea at my last house. Don't ask/don't tell. I never even considered looking into whether or not a permit was necessary. It's been at least 5 years and there hasn't been any problems, even when a tax assessor looked at the property. Of course, this wasn't in a heavily populated city. It was in a subdivision in a township.
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:08 AM   #17
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I think some people are ignoring that Orlando is in a hurricane zone, so they don't want metal sheds just flying around the neighborhoods. Here is brochure from the Orlando city website about permitting for accessory structures: http://www.cityoforlando.net/permits...s_brochure.pdf It mentions that the shed needs to meet 110 - 120 mph wind load standards.

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Old 06-07-2013, 11:06 AM   #18
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Default Re: Permit requirements for Home Depot shed?

There are times when I think civil disobedience is the proper response to government run amok.

A permit for a $300 shed in your own backyard?
Am I also going to need a camping permit if my kids put a tent in the backyard for a night?

I sure as hell know I would ignore such a ridiculous law.
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Old 06-07-2013, 11:33 AM   #19
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Here in my county in Ohio, you only need a permit if the shed is over 200 square feet.
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Old 06-07-2013, 11:38 AM   #20
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I too live in Orlando (Northwest Orange County). I just went through the same permitting. It was such a nightmare I hired a specialist to do all of the leg work. It was so much easier. And it kept me out of jail. I have very little tolerance for gov't idiots. Fortunately the inspector was a very cool guy. Everything went well.
How much for the specialist?? How much for permit?? What size was the shed?? Did it have concrete floor?? What needed for hurricane strapping / tiedown?? Pictures??

Your reply doesn't help the OP much with so few details, especially since it's in same city of Orlando, FL. Please fill in the gaps.
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