My fabrication shop. YEAH!

[JaysinSpaceman]

Well I have lurked on this site for a while but I thought that I would finally share some pictures of the shop I have been building. It has been entirely built by my wife, father and myself and one hard week of work from my father in-law, sister in-law and her husband.





It is 24' X 36' which is not as big as I would like but it was what I could afford and what I could fit in this spot. It has a clerestory to let light in and vent hot air (my mother's Idea). And the center post will eventually have a crane hanging from it, and before people ask it was engineered for it (but the building dept. doesn't know so don't tell, shhhh!). The little windows in the wall will get some old stained glass windows that were removed from buildings that were torn down (mostly for aesthetics but also a little more light). We've gotten this far in about 4 months and we will be starting the roofing and wiring this weekend.

[tdkkart]

Other than the apparent miscalculations on the roof angles it looks pretty good.
24 x36 is a nice size for a single stall fab room. Big enough to have space, small enough not to collect a bunch of crap.

Next time have the same guy do both sides of the roof............

[TejasBimmer]

Looks great to me...not the typical garage style...the use of the long over hangs will help keep the heat down on the South wall.
Go you have a layout of the interior and what you have planned?

[Bib Overalls]

I like it! The clerestory is a nice feature. Good natural lite without the security risks of conventional wall windows. Your Mom is a sharp cookie!

[JohnK007]

How about some interior shots when you can find the time? I'm really interested in how you framed that roof. The more I look at it the better i like it!

[Bevis]

Looks like it's coming together...Like the roof too.

[JaysinSpaceman]

I'll get some interior shots tomorrow. We worked on the electrical and roof stuff all weekend. The roof was a bit of a chore, I did all the design work myself and when I went to the building dept. they made me get it engineered as it was larger then standard dimensional lumber (ie. 5 1/8" x 16 1/2" gluelam). Luckily I have an engineer friend and he did all the calculations for me, on the cheap. In the long run it will be all worth it as it lets in a huge amount of natural light and I will be building transom windows for the clerestory that will give me great ventilation. Thanx for the positive feedback, it has been a lot of work for us and it's nice to get others' input.

Jaysin

[Jpfreak33]

I LOVE IT!!! I made my shed in that style and I love it. Wish I had the space to build something that big. I will someday once I get out of a subdivision.

[JaysinSpaceman]

So I said that I would get you some interior shots and some shots of the roof framing. Here they are.




And here is a bit more detail of the clerestory framing.


You can see that the rear 2x12 goes over the ridge beam and the front 2x12 butts into the side of the ridge beam.The upper clerestory part is effectively just an overhang of the rear roof at the top of the peak.

In the first and third picture you can also see the steel blocking that I made above the ridge beam. I didn't want solid wood blocking as it would stop the light from coming in over the ridge beam from the clerestory opening and I wanted all of the natural light that I could get.

Hope you like it.
Jaysin

[JohnK007]

"clerestory". I learned a new word today, thanks!! Great idea with the steel blocking Jaysin. It's obvious you did some thinking and done your homework. Nice job!

[JCByrd24]

That thing is stout...great looking non-traditional shop space.

[JaysinSpaceman]

JohnK007~ Thanx, I put a lot of time into the design part. I drew all the plans myself on AutoCAD and then had a engineer friend do the calcs for it. To tell the truth though, the steel open blocking was something I came up with after it was framed and had to go back to my engineer to make sure they would. He saw no problem with them as they are ten times stronger then wood that they replaced.

JCByrd24~ It's stout mostly because of the 40lb snow load rating that the roof has to have. I dig non-traditional work spaces, lots of natural light and good open ceilings (something that trad. work spaces are often lacking). If you are going to be in your work space 8-12 hours a day then it needs to be a place that you LIKE to be.

Well, I finished running all the conduit today and we will wire it this weekend, then I just have to finish dealing with the Power Co., I think that they are going to give me a second drop with it's own meter as the house power supply just wont cut it. Thanx for the good responses.

Jaysin

[PAToyota]

Very nice space - I can just imagine working in that! Looking forward to watching it come together for you.

[GSSFC]

I know why it is there, but why did you design it with the huge post in the middle? Seems that would get in the way?

Tim

[JaysinSpaceman]

With out the post I would have needed to go with trusses and that makes the clerestory sort of out of the question or the ridge beam would have had to be 8"x26" to span the 36' and the doors could not have been in the end walls. Unfortunately there are always compromises to be made and the post was reasonable what with the fact that I could turn it into a plus and hang a crane on it. The 40lbs/sq.ft. snow load is the biggest obstacle that I had to deal with in this design next only to the terrain/layout(hence the reason the doors needed to be in the end walls).

[tatra]

i have been suggesting this design for years to friends and only after they build do they see the advantages and wish they had done it ...........never knew the correct word and so i thank you for sharing your build and edycating me on the correct term........and a jib hoist is nice to have..........thanks again

[JaysinSpaceman]

tatra, Your welcome and thank You. I have always been happier outside and have never liked working under florescent lighting so it made sense to add the clerestory for the natural light. I have a friend that told me to go with skylights because they would be cheaper but in every house that I have seen skylights in I have also seen leaks, not to say that they are a bad Idea but they require up keep and I have never liked cutting holes in my roof.

[ordf]

Good, creative thinking! I really like the style of your garage and wish you many good hours in there.

Another interesting thing is to see the differences in the way garages are built (from a materials and technical point of view) in USA and Sweden (my home country). This goes for the other American garages in this forum too, of course.

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by ordf

Good, creative thinking! I really like the style of your garage and wish you many good hours in there.

Another interesting thing is to see the differences in the way garages are built (from a materials and technical point of view) in USA and Sweden (my home country). This goes for the other American garages in this forum too, of course.

Thanx, I'm looking forward to being able work in it soon.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on how this would have been done in Sweden and what types of materials would have been used. I have read a few articles about architecture in Sweden and the designs that are being thought up over there are pretty wild and forward thinking, some fascinating stuff. If you would give us a quick description.



On other notes, we pulled over half of the wire this weekend and installed the outside panel for the meter, all went well with only one minor setback. My father who knows more about electrical then a lot of electricians is also red/green color blind and brought up a big old roll of Grey wire for us to use as the GREEN ground wire. The whole colorblind thing is also why he couldn't do electronic repair for the armed forces back in the late 60's. Must suck.

I also installed about half of my roof insulation in 101 degree weather, OH Joy! I hope to finish it up this week as it is supposed to be cooler.

Thanx for the interest in my building. Jaysin

[JaysinSpaceman]

So I just thought that I would give a little update. We finished all the interior electrical and everything except the exterior lighting (and that's because I haven't built the lights yet) is wired. I have PG&E set up to drop the main power and just waiting for them so I can have real power, just temp power right now, enough to test circuits out. The lights work!!

I placed all the insulation on the roof and have tar paper on half of it. I used 2" rigid foam, R12.9, under the roofing and above the sheeting because the interior of the ceiling will be open and I didn't want to look at a bunch of batten material for the rest of my days. The corrugated roofing and all the flashing have been ordered and should be here in 1-2 weeks then the fun of installing it begins. Just hope the rain stays away long enough to get the roof sealed up.

I am working on the clerestory windows. Figuring out the custom casings and the mechanism for making them open, transom style, like the old school windows. I think that we have it, but I need to construct a mock up so I know they work before I order the glass. I am also working on the small lower wall windows and I hope to have a picture of them for you soon.

The last details of a building are always slow, especially when you are trying to save money and doing it all yourself.

Jaysin

[dodgepolara500]

Nice looking shop! With the post, will you be able to have a couple of cars in there?

I also see you mentioned PG&E. You must be somewhere in California!

John

[Stuey]

Wow, nice!

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by dodgepolara500

Nice looking shop! With the post, will you be able to have a couple of cars in there?

I also see you mentioned PG&E. You must be somewhere in California!

John

John, I laid it out so that I have a 20' side and a 16' side. Most of what I do is hot rod stuff and the early cars a pretty short so I should be able to have a constant project on the 16' end and still be able to get the '99 Silverado in on the 20' end for oil changes and whatnot. I don't know if you read all the way through but the post will eventually have a crane swinging from it, it was engineered with a 2500lb capacity in mind and I figure the most I'll ever try to lift is 1000-1200lbs. I'm glad you like it, I feel that it will be a really nice workspace once it's finished.

Jaysin

[tigmusky]

Pretty cool. keep posting the pixs. Can't wait to see the end result.
nice shop daye

[JaysinSpaceman]

Well, time for another small installment. The visible progress has slowed a bit as it always does in the finish type work but a few cool things happened this weekend. For one the hole in the floor around the base of the post is now filled. Thanks in no small part to the expertise of my wife (she's watching over my shoulder as I type this, hehe).



I decided to dye the concrete red so that I am less likely to run into the thing while walking around the shop not paying attention to where I am going (believe me it happens often as I tend to think more about what I'm doing then where I'm going). It turned out pretty well and I think that the color looks great in an otherwise grey floor.

Next, and more exciting are the small stained glass windows that are in the walls. I bought the windows unrestored from an antique shop in Sacramento that had gotten them from area buildings that were being torn down. I don't know any history about them other than the fact that they came from Sac.





Here are some close-ups of the three that are hard to see in the first picture.







Sorry you had to see my ugly mug in the last one but somehow I managed to get in the shot. Most of the windows needed some repair and luckily my Grandmother used to do stained glass work so I had some of the tools and a bit of knowledge left over from her teaching me the art when I was a boy. This is the sort of reason you should never turn down the chance to learn something new, maybe just maybe one day it will come in handy and save you a boat load of money, and give you a sense of pride in doing your part of the project. And again, my beautiful wife also spent hours cleaning the old glass of years of paint and neglect with a razor and she is the reason that they are as bright and shiny as they are, all I really did is make them structurally sound (and yes she is still watching over my shoulder).

'Till next time.

Jaysin

[fireguy]

Originally Posted by tdkkart

Other than the apparent miscalculations on the roof angles it looks pretty good.
24 x36 is a nice size for a single stall fab room. Big enough to have space, small enough not to collect a bunch of crap.

Next time have the same guy do both sides of the roof............

Maybe the same guy did do both sides of the roof. The problem was the same guy did not build both walls. Or he used a foot tape on one wall & a metric tape on the other wall.

I like the clestory, lets in light and keeps prying eyes from scoping out the goodies inside.

[PAToyota]

Great project! I like the little details of color and the windows - really sets things apart from the run-of-the-mill stuff.

[elect]

the stained glass is incredible! Gives the place an old time feel I REALLY LIKE.

[akdiesel]

[quote= This is the sort of reason you should never turn down the chance to learn something new, maybe just maybe one day it will come in handy and save you a boat load of money, and give you a sense of pride in doing your part of the project. [/QUOTE]


That is a wise statement.
Your shop is looking great, it has an intriguing layout. It would be interesting to see if you can get or fab a 360 deg jib crane onto the center pole.

[kbs2244]

It may be a little late from what I see in the PICs, but something the older churches around here have done with their old single thickness stained glass windows is just put a outer pane right on top of the multi piece pane.
It dose dim the look of the colors from the outside, but the look from the inside is the same and it stops a whole lot of cold drafts off the windows.

I will be waiting to see with what you come up with for opening those upper windows.
I like the idea of light from above but have always been afraid of skylight leaks.

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by kbs2244

It may be a little late from what I see in the PICs, but something the older churches around here have done with their old single thickness stained glass windows is just put a outer pane right on top of the multi piece pane.
It dose dim the look of the colors from the outside, but the look from the inside is the same and it stops a whole lot of cold drafts off the windows.

Well the building department here requires that one pane of glass be tempered so the little window casings for the stained glass were built in such a way that a piece of tempered glass will be set on the outside of them, stopping the drafts and meeting the code all at once.

Akdiesel~ As of now the jib crane that I am planning to build would swing 360 except that I plan to make it longer then the short distance between the post and wall (the post is not centered) so that I have more reach on the up hill side of the shop. In all reality I think that the reach is more important then the capability to swing 360. As I have the design now it will swing about 310-320 degrees.

Thanx for all the kind words everybody.

Jaysin

[akdiesel]

Can't wait to see the final set up.

[JaysinSpaceman]

So here's another small installment in my construction project. I put all the roof insulation down along with the tar paper and finally installed the roofing with the help of my father and father in-law. Here's a few shots of how it went and how it turned out.

20' lengths of corrugated metal are really fun to handle.






Here's the last sheet going down and if you can't tell by the darkness it had been a LONG day.






This weekend my wife, father, mother and I painted (actually stained) and it turned out very nice if I do say so myself. But you'll just have to wait because I don't have the pictures off my camera yet. So that will be something to look forward to.

Now that the paint is done I can get the trim and flashing up and it will start to look like a finished building.

My clerestory glass should be in shortly so we'll be able to start on that adventure soon.

Until next time.
Jaysin

[scofo]

Not only is the shop beautiful but the fact it is such a family effort will bring happy memories.

[autoist]

Beautiful....how ya gonna keep wasps from flying up under the tin?

[Vicegrip]

Very nice. With the light and stained glass you have The First Church of Hot Rod.

[porschedude996TT]

Looks great. I must ask why the pole in the center of the shop? Would not a larger beam or a glue-laminate beam that spaned the whole lenght worked better? Just thinking...

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by scofo

Not only is the shop beautiful but the fact it is such a family effort will bring happy memories.

Family has always been important to me and it is wonderful that they are so willing to help, I couldn't get it finished if not for them.

Originally Posted by autoist

Beautiful....how ya gonna keep wasps from flying up under the tin?

I have some of that wavy spacer strip stuff that will go up with the flashing. The places that I don't have a shaped spacer to fill the holes I will most likely use expanding foam.

Originally Posted by Vicegrip

Very nice. With the light and stained glass you have The First Church of Hot Rod.

That was my exact thought when I finally installed the stained glass windows.

Originally Posted by porschedude996TT

Looks great. I must ask why the pole in the center of the shop? Would not a larger beam or a glue-laminate beam that spaned the whole lenght worked better? Just thinking...

I think I said before that the post will eventually have a crane swinging from it and because of the 40lbs snow load requirement I have here the ridge beam would have had to be twice the size it is now and I already have a 5x16.5 gluelam. And the two doors in the end walls would have needed to be in the side walls instead, there are always compromises to be made and the post will work well for me (especially once the crane is built).

Thanx for all the good thoughts. I'll have more pictures for you soon.

Jaysin

[cyclopsblown34]

Cool build Jaysin. You gonna call it First Church of Hot Rod?

[Hardware]

Neat Build. Love the Stained Glass

[kbs2244]

Can you give us a little more info on the roof insulation?
Do I understand that you put it on top of the sheathing and put the sheet metal down?
Is there any provision for a vapor barrier?

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by kbs2244

Can you give us a little more info on the roof insulation?
Do I understand that you put it on top of the sheathing and put the sheet metal down?
Is there any provision for a vapor barrier?

Yes, The insulation is R-Max rigid foam insulation by Thermasheath. I put 2" tall strips of 2x4 down on the sheeting 24" apart and placed the rigid insulation between them. Then used the strips to staple tar paper down. Then the corrugated roofing went down with screws into the wood strips on top of the tar paper. So the tar paper is the vapor barrier. And the wood strips give the corrugated something hard to be pulled down to. I might be able to find a picture of it as I installed it I'll have to look.

Jaysin

[scofo]

Hi Jaysin, wondering how the window mock up went or are you waiting for the glass before you start? Goodluck.

[PERFORMANCE-RED]

Very unique. I think it is a great build. I always thought about useing some old big church stained glass windows in a house but never a garage.

[JaysinSpaceman]

OK, we now have paint, actually I should say stain. We shot the shop with Benjamin-Moore Semi-Solid stain a week and a half ago but I wanted to get the most of the trim up before I posted more pictures. Here goes.



My Dad painting rafter tails from the tractor bucket. OSHA approved?








And this last weekend we spent trenching for electrical and water back to the house. I borrowed a brand new (hehe!) trencher from my cousin to take some of the back breaking work out of it. I needed to do a bit of maintenance on it before I could put it to work and I found one date on the B&S motor showing that the trencher is a 1959 or 60 model. This is a super fun machine to operate and quickly reminds the operator why so many old guys are missing fingers.







It is, unfortunately, missing the powered material conveyor thingy under the machine so you have to walk along next to it with a shovel and constantly remove the soil out from under it, other then that it worked beautifully. If any of you out there in TV land have any info on this machine please let me know. It was made by ARPS Corp. and it is the Trench-Devil model. I would love to build a new material conveyor for it but I need to know just how it worked from the factory.

Well, I hope you enjoyed this installment. I hope to get the glass for my clerestory this week and start the construction so the next installment should hopefully have pictures of a beautiful enclosed building. Almost enclosed at any rate, I started on the doors but I am not sure if they will be done before the clerestory, gotta get the roof closed up as first priority.

Thanx, Jaysin

[JaysinSpaceman]

Wow, either no one liked the color I chose or no body noticed the new post. Any way I should have a few more pictures after this weekend, we're trying hard to get the electrical all buttoned up so I can get the "Green Tag" and PG&E can do the service drop. Wish me luck. Jaysin

[Quiksilver]

Looking good, I like the siding and stain choice. Not the average garage. The clerestory is awesome, keep the updates coming.

[e-tek]

So nice to see your Dad and Dad in law there all the way through - you're a lucky man. (Too bad we have to get married to have two Dad's though!) I really like the design to let the sun in. Any chance you'd take some pics of the light coming in, or of the ceiling from inside the shop?
Great shop!

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by e-tek

So nice to see your Dad and Dad in law there all the way through - you're a lucky man. (Too bad we have to get married to have two Dad's though!) I really like the design to let the sun in. Any chance you'd take some pics of the light coming in, or of the ceiling from inside the shop?
Great shop!

e-tek, THere are a few pictures earlier in this thread that show the ceiling and some of how the light comes in (I don't really want to repost the pics as it already takes a bit to load). That said, the ceiling will stay open rafters and only the walls will have sheetrock. I really like the openness that the ceiling has with the ridge beam and rafters exposed, and the light plays well on them. I will definitely get pictures up as soon as I get the clerestory windows built and installed, then I will really know what the light will look like.

As for the Dad thing, it is the best that they are willing to come and help. I don't think I could have gotten this far with out the help of my family. My wife has supported me and helped every step of the way, my mom, dad and dad-in-law as well as cousins and friends have all been there to work for dinner and beer. This building is a real labor of love (and family).

Thanx to everybody who has posted in this thread, you guys all help to keep my spirits high and keep me pushing ahead. I will keep you updated with my progress.

Jaysin

[TejasBimmer]

Originally Posted by JaysinSpaceman

My Dad painting rafter tails from the tractor bucket. OSHA approved?

Same thing I was thinking....now where is that safety harness???
Looking great!

[atvmech]

Hell I though that was Willie Nelson up there

[JaysinSpaceman]

OK, just a small update. First up is the electrical mast for the service drop. I wanted it as high overhead as I could but I didn't want cables running across the roof so I made up a bracket so that there was less then 4' of rigid conduit left unsupported (as per code).



And a close up.



I shot it with some Rustoleum Primer and then a nice thick coat of Rustoleum Machine Grey Gloss. It should hold up to the elements well. PG&E says that they will be doing the drop on Dec. 1st so I am looking forward to having real power in the shop soon.

And second, the glass for the clerestory windows is in and we should start the window casing construction this weekend. I will also be doing more work on the big doors. So hopefully I will have more pictures after the weekend.

Jaysin

[nathank]

Good looking shop man. Some real original elements. Nice work.

[rwhite692]

Jaysin you and your family are doing a great job, very nice looking shop.

Where in the Bay Area are you?

-Rob

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by rwhite692

Jaysin you and your family are doing a great job, very nice looking shop.

Where in the Bay Area are you?

-Rob

Thanx for the compliment. I'm not in the bay I'm in the gold country, near Jackson. Out of curiosity, why did you think Bay Area?

Jaysin

[kbs2244]

I am interested in the construction detail for the joists and the central beam.
For the short joists I can see you just used hangers.
But the on long joists is there a small birds mouth and some kind of metal bracing?

[rwhite692]

Originally Posted by JaysinSpaceman

Thanx for the compliment. I'm not in the bay I'm in the gold country, near Jackson. Out of curiosity, why did you think Bay Area?

Jaysin

Sorry, you had mentioned Sacto, and PG&E...My family is scattered all over the area so my definition of "Bay Area" is pretty broad, LOL.

[JaysinSpaceman]

So we have here a small update. The clerestory windows are coming along, taking a bit longer then expected but not much. We now have all the wood parts milled and have glued up the smallest ones, and as you can see here we have mocked up one of the large windows (nearly 6' long).



And I have also designed and built all the hinges that will allow them to operate like the elementary school transom windows, pull in at the top and kick out at the bottom. We decided to inset the hinges into the casing so I designed a router pattern and made it out of steel on my cnc plasma table (cheating or smart?) And here is the result. The wood under the hinges has the bronze bushings already installed for the windows to pivot on.



Last is the doors for the large openings in the shop. Only the 4' wide ones have been skinned. The first shot is of the frames and the second is with skins and 232 rivets each. You can also see the door handle on the one standing up, it will actuate pins top and bottom that will act as the latch mechanism.





So that is the update as of right now. We should have the power hooked up tomorrow (Monday), God and PG&E willing. Hope to have more pictures for you after next weekend, should be windows finished and maybe even all the doors skinned and ready to install.

kbs2244,

As for the long side rafters they are birds-mouthed and attached to the ridge beam with Simpson hurricane ties. The steel you see in the other pictures is the blocking I made to take place of the wood blocking that would normally go there, I didn't want to block the light from the clerestory windows.

Jaysin

[woodbutcher]

very nice work you should be proud

[JaysinSpaceman]

OK. We have an update.

We finished up the Clerestory window construction and installed them yesterday (Friday). All went well and it's another step closer to finished, just in time for the snow.

Here's a shot of one of the small end windows so you can see how they open.



And here we have all of them in and we are just finishing up. Plus you get to see my best side.



I also finished my BIG doors and we hung them today. They consist of a swinging 4' x 10' "Man Door" (the building dept. needed a door that swings out for easy egress and they didn't care how big it was) and a 6' x 10' slider. I had some shots of the doors during construction a few posts back but it is really cool to see them up. They seem massive now that they're in place, way fun.

Here's a shot of the hinge brackets and another of one of the slider tracks.





First slider hung and the rest in a stack in the shop.



Here is both doors up and my beautiful wife and I for some scale.



This is them from the inside, I really like the asymmetrical look from the inside (it compliments the look of the building). As of now they are just steel but they will get insulation against the skin in the spaces between the framework. And I decided that I will cover the insulation with chalkboard material giving me a great big place to write myself reminders (34 years old and already CRS is setting in).



I still have to assemble the latch mechanism and the handles but it feels good to have a (almost) closed up building. And because I can't leave you with out the overall picture...



The doors are bare cold rolled steel that will get a bit of rust for a finish (compliments of vinegar and water) which will make all 1000 aluminum rivets really stand out. I'll get some more shots for you once the doors are totally finished. For now it is two more big steps crossed off of the punch list, we are getting close to final inspection. Yeeeeeaaaaa!!

[alberto]

Very impressive work. The windows you made came out perfect.

[kbs2244]

I really like the way this is coming together.
What is the plan for the little spaces ath the ends of the windows.
Over and under the overhangs?
Leave them as is or box them in?

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by kbs2244

I really like the way this is coming together.
What is the plan for the little spaces at the ends of the windows.
Over and under the overhangs?
Leave them as is or box them in?

They will get sheeted at the ends of the clerestory and then the little open triangle between the eves will get a small piece of sheeting just to close it up. When I ordered the roofing material I neglected to get the corrugated material that covers the roof sheeting between the eves, I have since picked up the material and I will put it down just before that corner is sheeted.

Thanx for the props, I am really excited to have it so close to completed.

Jaysin

[Conor42]

Outstanding! So you've mentioned that you got the glass from Sacramento.. looks like you're in the hills somewhere nearby, eh? Off of 80 or off of 50?

Either way, it's neat to see someone in the area with a killer project like this.

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Conor42

Outstanding! So you've mentioned that you got the glass from Sacramento.. looks like you're in the hills somewhere nearby, eh? Off of 80 or off of 50?

Either way, it's neat to see someone in the area with a killer project like this.

South of 50 off of hwy 88, gold country. If you mean the stained glass then yes they all came from old buildings that were torn down in the Sac area. The clerestory glass also came from a friend that works as a glazier in the Sac and Bay areas. I'm happy to see that peope like it, it has been a labor of love.

Jaysin

[Namocsid]

Wow, what a nice shop. Great design, and really nice details that you've included. Any plans to heat/cool the space?

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Namocsid

Wow, what a nice shop. Great design, and really nice details that you've included. Any plans to heat/cool the space?

We'll I will definitely need heat (we just got our first real snow of the year) but the summer here isn't too bad so I don't know about the cooling. I have a few options for heat, wood fire, waste oil burner, propane (too expensive so it would only be temporary), or some combo. I still need to make the decision. I have looked at an oil burner design on Journey to Forever and it looks much better the the old MEN heater ( you can find it here http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...arth/me11.html ). But I also have to remove about 3 or so acres of Manzanita and I have a fair amount of Oak as well. I am sure I will figure it out soon, and any advice is welcome.

Jaysin

[RAYJAY]

Originally Posted by JaysinSpaceman

OK, we now have paint, actually I should say stain. We shot the shop with Benjamin-Moore Semi-Solid stain a week and a half ago but I wanted to get the most of the trim up before I posted more pictures. Here goes.
And this last weekend we spent trenching for electrical and water back to the house. I borrowed a brand new (hehe!) trencher from my cousin to take some of the back breaking work out of it. I needed to do a bit of maintenance on it before I could put it to work and I found one date on the B&S motor showing that the trencher is a 1959 or 60 model. This is a super fun machine to operate and quickly reminds the operator why so many old guys are missing fingers.



It is, unfortunately, missing the powered material conveyor thingy under the machine so you have to walk along next to it with a shovel and constantly remove the soil out from under it, other then that it worked beautifully. If any of you out there in TV land have any info on this machine please let me know. It was made by ARPS Corp. and it is the Trench-Devil model. I would love to build a new material conveyor for it but I need to know just how it worked from the factory.

Well, I hope you enjoyed this installment. I hope to get the glass for my clerestory this week and start the construction so the next installment should hopefully have pictures of a beautiful enclosed building. Almost enclosed at any rate, I started on the doors but I am not sure if they will be done before the clerestory, gotta get the roof closed up as first priority.

Thanx, Jaysin

check out this e-bay listing think its a broshour for you machine...


http://cgi.ebay.com/1967-ARPS-Trench...3286.m20.l1116

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by RAYJAY

check out this e-bay listing think its a broshour for you machine...


http://cgi.ebay.com/1967-ARPS-Trench...3286.m20.l1116

Rayjay~ Thanx for the link. That seems like the same model but a bit (7-8 years) newer. I still have not found much info on it. I did find out that the company that built it is still around and I contacted them to get some info but it turns out that they did not have the owner's manual any more, so a strike out there. Any way thanx again.

Jaysin

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by kbs2244

I really like the way this is coming together.
What is the plan for the little spaces ath the ends of the windows.
Over and under the overhangs?
Leave them as is or box them in?

So I answered this question before but now it is done so I thought I would add a picture to make it absolutely clear.



And While I am at it, here's a couple shots of the door handles and the latch mechanisms.






And so you have an Idea of the setting that the shop lives in, a picture from the house.



And one more just because it looks so good a night with the new outside lights up.



I hope you all like it as it is getting really close to the final and there isn't much I can change now.

[sam 8]

Very Nice.
Your neck-o-the woods looked familiar, I am about 75 miles north of you, off of 49 north of Grass Valley.

[JaysinSpaceman]

Well I have been busy and I do believe that the building is ready for it's FINAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have been so busy what with X-mas and all I don't have pictures ready but I will get the latest up in a day or two.

This Thursday through today we finished the dirt work (trench filling/final grade), trim and flashing, and a shit load of little things that needed to be done and now comes the moment of truth the Final Inspection, wish me luck.

Jaysin

[JaysinSpaceman]

YEAH IT'S PASSED THE FINAL!!!

My inspector came today and signed it off with no questions to ask. Just says "looks nice". So here's a few shots of it all done.
Trim and flashing came out real well and the my door latch mechanisms work great.







So there it is. I still need to add some gravel to the road areas, but that wont happen for at least 3-4 days as it is way too muddy around the shop. And now I can add a bit more electrical and insulation and wall sheetrock and then it will be ready to move all my equipment into. This whole trip has been well worth the drive. I hope that you all like it. I'll keep all posted as I finish the inside.

Jaysin

[67pete300]

Really superior work. I love it. All the design details, the fabrication.... Really just amazing. Kudos and congrats to you.

[cdrewferd]

Awazing how the shop turned out. That's one of the nicest exteriors I've seen.

[JohnK007]

Congrats on passing the final Jay!! You have put a lot of hard work and imaginative thinking into your project and you should be justly proud. We all really enjoyed following along with your build.

[andersen24]

Sweet job - awesome use of the stained glass and "wrench" handles. I must admit, its pretty amazing looking at these pictures of shops around the U.S. and seeing all the different types of construction due to local codes. Being from California - I must admit it is the weirdest thing seeing something built without all the earthquake requirements!

[67pete300]

I've been sketching out sheds recently, I'm pretty sure I will copy your theme in miniature, celestory and all!

[RATSTER]

looks nice. where did you purchase the outside lights?

[avc8130]

I love the vent/light idea. There must be an architect in the family somewhere...
ac

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by RATSTER

looks nice. where did you purchase the outside lights?

I got them from Lowes. They are in the indoor light section but I asked the lighting guy if they would be ok outdoors and he said as long as the connection is weather tight (under the eves or sealed up with a bit of silicone) that the socket and shade are just fine outside.

Originally Posted by avc8130

I love the vent/light idea. There must be an architect in the family somewhere...
ac

No architects but we all have a hell of an imagination. I've also designed a lot of other things (furniture, decks, car parts, etc...) but this was the first set of building plans that I have drawn up. Always remember, whether you think you can or you think you can't, you're right.

Jaysin

[PERFORMANCE-RED]

Maybe I missed this part but how do the sliding doors seal around the opening and the floor?

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by PERFORMANCE-RED

Maybe I missed this part but how do the sliding doors seal around the opening and the floor?

Honestly, It's one of the few details that I haven't yet figured out. And it is also the one mistake that we made during construction. the doors sit with about 3/4" of gap at the bottom. I think that I might try to use some of that brush material (the stuff that they seal roll up doors with) to seal the top and sides. As for the bottom I am not sure yet, but you can bet I will figure something out.
If you have any ideas post 'em up.

Thanx,

Jaysin

[bomber]

What a great building! You should certainly be standing tall!

[JaysinSpaceman]

OK, so I know that it has been a while since I updated my build. First I was sick for about a week and a half then it was busy, busy, busy which is good because it means that I made some money and on top of it all I started teaching my Principals of Fabrication class again this semester. In between all this though I/We managed to get the shop sheetrocked, taped and sanded, primed and painted, and trim up around the windows and top of the walls. So all this description is useless without pictures, here you go.

So I had to leave home for one night and vandals broke in and graffitied the place. Not really, we had finished about half of the insulation and then I had to take a trip to SoCal over night and when I returned I found that my wife and mother spent the evening that I was gone finishing the insulation, so I guess that they're allowed to leave their mark.


Wow, all those outlets and little windows were a pain to sheetrock around.


But it came out great and we didn't waist a single sheet of material and only had one miss measurement that required a little mud to fix.


Proper use of a ladder!!


A few days later all taped and mudded. I hate sanding sheerrock joints. But I was going for smooth walls (no texture) because they stay much cleaner in a metal fab shop.


Painted and trimmed out after the next weekend. Boy, do the windows ever pop out at you now. They look so good with the trim and finished walls. (The pictures don't really do them much justice, so much better in person.)



It is amazing how much brighter it is with the walls all painted. Even with only the winter light coming through the clerestory I could just about work inside with the lights off.


Well, we only have a few little things to rap up (outlet covers, lower trim, shelves, etc..) and I can start moving all my tools in and get to work.

I'll keep you updated as I start moving in and organizing my workspace. Do you think I should start a new thread about the setup of the workspace or just continue the saga here?

Thanx
Jaysin

[jamo1911]

Hay Jaysin,
Wow man, Congratulations - that shop looks great!! Love the details - roof line, stained glass, wrench handles, custom electrical service bracket, clerestory windows etc etc... Awesome job !!!!
Jamie

[JaysinSpaceman]

Thanx Jamie, it's been a real labor of love. I am glad that you like all my silly details, I tend to think outside the box and it shows in just about everything I build. Now I get the joy of moving all the (tons) of tools that I have, HEHE!!

Thanx Jaysin

[tdkkart]

Originally Posted by JaysinSpaceman

Proper use of a ladder!!

Geez!!! Probably 16 of our safety Nazi's are gonna nail you on this one.

You do realize that since you've allowed a safety breach during the construction of your building that you now have to tear it down completely and start from scratch.........

At least that'll give you a chance to fix thath engineering screwup that caused the mismatched roof angles..........

[JaysinSpaceman]

I love safety Nazis, they are way too much fun to play with. In all reality though, I am well aware of the dangers of what I do and as far as I am concerned if I got hurt or died it would have been my own fault. The reason safety Nazis have jobs is because people refuse to take responsibility for their actions.

As far as fixing the roof, I did. I just screwed some plastic sheet over the gap. HAHAHA!!!

[tdkkart]

Originally Posted by JaysinSpaceman

As far as fixing the roof, I did. I just screwed some plastic sheet over the gap. HAHAHA!!!

Ah well, sounds good to me, don't forget the blue plastic tarp when the weather gets bad. The handy part about these is they are self-removing, if left long enough they just rot and blow away.

Nice shop BTW............

[Quiksilver]

As I said before, looks awesome!!! Now when can I move my stuff in?

[bluesman2a]

Originally Posted by JaysinSpaceman

Wow, all those outlets and little windows were a pain to sheetrock around.

I did mine in OSB, but like you, had MANY outlets to cut out. I hear what you are saying here. By the time I finished the last one, I was really questioning the decision to put all of them in! That is until I got to start using them all!!!

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by bluesman2a

I did mine in OSB, but like you, had MANY outlets to cut out. I hear what you are saying here. By the time I finished the last one, I was really questioning the decision to put all of them in! That is until I got to start using them all!!!

There are never enough outlets when you need one. I don't have the funds for a good cord real yet but I thought ahead and wired a box at the top of the wall so I can add a drop down cord later.

Thanx for all the props guys.
Jaysin

[RobSmith]

That giant pole in the middle of the floor...Couldn't you have used a steel beam to do away with that. What a waste of manoverability and work space.

[Mezzanine]

^^^Sigh.

Some people just refuse to read a thread.

Seriously though, beautiful shop. Had you used a little bit more concrete in the construction, it would have achieved near perfection (for me).
NICE WORK!


C

[Boosted1]

Your shop / garage has turned out beautifully. Congrats and nice work. Time to start enjoying it.

[Tman]

Jaysin, looks awesome. I too built rolling doors in my strawshop. We decided the temp OSB sheathing on them is too heavy, I have been thinking about aged steel when I add my windows to the doors. Thanks for the idears.

FWIW I used one of the pole barn door closures that is usually on the edges of the doors to suck them tight to the opening for a center latch, I can really suck it up solid then throw a chain through the handles for added security when away.

[cyclopsblown34]

You just aren't same from vandals no matter where you are. The sheetrock made a world of difference.

[E46M3]

Jaysin,
This whole build post is just getting cooler and cooler. Much is a result of what you call- "your silly details." That's where the cool comes from Jaysin... real nice job. I like. Alot.
Cheers,
E46M3

[mrb]

Originally Posted by JaysinSpaceman

There are never enough outlets when you need one. I don't have the funds for a good cord real yet but I thought ahead and wired a box at the top of the wall so I can add a drop down cord later.

Thanx for all the props guys.
Jaysin

one alternative is using a cord drop, with a twistlock connector in the middle so you can remove it when you dont want it in your way

Here is a picture of one I made for a guy on here



nothing beats a good cord reel though. Save up for a reelcraft

[JaysinSpaceman]

We installed some shelves this weekend, all preparation for moving my tools and junk in. I didn't want any floor space taken up with long term storage shelves so we decides to build these shelves which bolt to every stud and hang from the rafters by chains. I've built these kind of shelves before and had them work well so I decided to do it one more time.

Here is a shot of one wall of the shop. I did the length of both long walls, 8' off the floor so you wont hit your head and will be easily accessible from a short ladder (I will eventually build a library style ladder). This gives me about 96 sq. ft. of storage without disturbing the flow (hehe).



But as soon as we were done someone put us away for the night, out of sight out of mind. As you can see they are plenty strong.



Hey, now this is a great place to cat nap when I should be getting work done.



So that was our weekend I hope to be moving stuff in next weekend. Thanx for following along at home and if you have any questions about the shelves feel free to ask or copy away for your own shop space.

I asked once before but didn't get any preferences, should I start a new thread about how I organize the space as I start moving in or should I just keep this one going?

Thanx
Jaysin

[Tman]

Just keep posting here!

[e-tek]

GREAT shelves! I did the same with mine, hanging 3 shelves from the ceiling with threaded rod. Definitley nice to keep stuff OFF the ground! Love the windows too.

[Dragster Racer]

I know that is a test, but that would really suck if it failed the test with all three of you on there. Love the build. Getting some ideas for myself.

[JaysinSpaceman]

Dragster~ I'm glad you like it and take all the Ideas that you want, after all that is why I posted my build here. Yea, it would have sucked to have it fail with us all on there but in reality it would hold us with half as many chains so we weren't all that concerned.

Thanx
Jaysin

[raider65]

Originally Posted by JaysinSpaceman

We installed some shelves this weekend, all preparation for moving my tools and junk in. I didn't want any floor space taken up with long term storage shelves so we decides to build these shelves which bolt to every stud and hang from the rafters by chains. I've built these kind of shelves before and had them work well so I decided to do it one more time.

Here is a shot of one wall of the shop. I did the length of both long walls, 8' off the floor so you wont hit your head and will be easily accessible from a short ladder (I will eventually build a library style ladder). This gives me about 96 sq. ft. of storage without disturbing the flow (hehe).



But as soon as we were done someone put us away for the night, out of sight out of mind. As you can see they are plenty strong.



Hey, now this is a great place to cat nap when I should be getting work done.



So that was our weekend I hope to be moving stuff in next weekend. Thanx for following along at home and if you have any questions about the shelves feel free to ask or copy away for your own shop space.

I asked once before but didn't get any preferences, should I start a new thread about how I organize the space as I start moving in or should I just keep this one going?

Thanx
Jaysin

what type of chains did you use...the load rating?

[waltmcq]

I love you shop too. What a great space.

[Stargeezer]

Originally Posted by mrb

one alternative is using a cord drop, with a twistlock connector in the middle so you can remove it when you dont want it in your way

Here is a picture of one I made for a guy on here



nothing beats a good cord reel though. Save up for a reelcraft

That was for me. Yep-I was going to use two cord reels and then discovered you can only get 13 AMP service out of the commonly affordable reels. So I put only one reel up and then used a genuine mrb drop cord and box at 20 AMP rating for the dropper that needs more amps for chop saws etc. It is installed now. mrb does great work on these. Gotta post some pics..

[heavychevy454ss]

Great design. Can't wait to see the final layout. Keep posting it here.

I really like the doors. Might have to steel that to replace my swinging doors.
Keep up the good work!

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by raider65

what type of chains did you use...the load rating?

The chain is rated at 340lbs load and is welded link, but the chains will never fail the HOOKS will. There was no rating on the hooks but the storage that I plan to use the shelves for is mostly bulky materials that don't weigh much. No engine blocks or heavy steel is going to be stored above my head.

Thanx Jaysin

[e-tek]

Originally Posted by JaysinSpaceman

The chain is rated at 340lbs load and is welded link, but the chains will never fail the HOOKS will. There was no rating on the hooks but the storage that I plan to use the shelves for is mostly bulky materials that don't weigh much. No engine blocks or heavy steel is going to be stored above my head.

Thanx Jaysin

I'm quite sure you COULD store an engine block up there if you wanted.

[akdiesel]

What a great creation and nice attention to detail. The door handles, the windows, and the door guides show off the shop great.

[JaysinSpaceman]

OK. So I have started moving a little bit of my stuff up but I have yet to have anything called organization. Really I just moved up enough stuff so I could start the task of building my new welding table. When I started the shop my father asked if I was going to take my 4' x 4' welding table with me when the shop was finished, when I asked why he told me he would like to keep it. So I said "it's yours", how could I say anything else with all the help he gave me with the construction of my shop. So I wanted a 4'x 8' table any way and I had collected a fair bit of extra steel through all the fab jobs that I do and started on it about three days ago. I calculated out the weight of all the tube and plate and the thing comes in right near 1200 lbs. (well it wont move when I don't want it to).

So here are some pictures.









In case you're wondering all of the nuts and studs under the table top are welded to flanges that run cross wise on the bottom of the 1/2" top plate, these alow me to adjust the top surface perfectly flat.

The top still needs the paint stripped off and there are still shelves to build and four casters to mount and hangers for clamps and grinders but I thought that, at this point, it was worthy of a post. Hope you like it.

Jaysin

[Tman]

Hard to tell, what is the top material?

[BRUISER]

Jaysin,

you did a great job on this build.. the shape, quality of work, etc...

A+

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Tman

Hard to tell, what is the top material?

Tman,

The top plate is 1/2" steel plate, it has paint on it right now that I will be stripping off before it is finished. I got the top plate free and it had the paint on it when I picked it up. The plate was originally built to be used as a temporary damn at a water treatment plant but had never been installed and when they were doing the construction cleanup they were just going to send it to scrap so instead I picked it up.

Jaysin

[squatch]

<homer simpson>MMMMMMMMMMM Newcastle</homer simpson>

[Stargeezer]

That is an awesome welding table. Please post more images as it gets finished-up.

Thanks

[JaysinSpaceman]

So I got a bit more done to my table and I thought I share. I added hooks at the four corners, places to hang grinders and c-clamps, and put the casters on so I can move it when need be. It rolls beautifully and is really easy to adj. for level as well.









Here's the over all as she sits now. I still need to add holsters for the MIG gun and I am sure I will think of plenty of other things down the road. If you have added cool accessories to your welding table that you think I can't live without let me know, I love the little things that let the work go easier.



Thanx Jaysin

[vvk645]

very impressive table, I really like the design.

[tatra]

hey jay, told my cuz to look at your build for the first stage of his cottage build...........he was impressed..........wants to build a shop to live in first then build the main res and convert the original to a shop when he can afford it...........lolololololololo.........no not laffin, cuz will know what this means.........hopefully he joins and contacts you,,,,,,,,,

[ephotrod]

I really like this build! Are there any up dates.

[JaysinSpaceman]

Sorry I haven't made any updates lately, I've really been focused getting it set up and building equipment and moving equipment. Give me a day or two and I will get something together.

Thanx
Jaysin

[Tman]

Looking forward to the updates.

[KELLHAMMER]

Jay
Were those clerestory windows made out of poplar? In my part of the world poplar doesn't last very well used outside.

[ephotrod]

Don't mean to be pushy but have you had a chance to take pictures. This is my favorite shop, the show of craftsmanship is outstanding. I like that it was a family project as well. Jay come down from space and let us know hows the shop is.
Josh

[chromeyellow]

nice garage, I like how all of you had fun putting it together. One question about the shelves, did you bolt them directly to the studs in the wall? Do the chains run down to the center of the shelves or the outside edge?

[Topcat]

Nice job so much pride went into it - love the steel fab work

Classic class!

[d110pickup]

Jay that's a fantastic shop; I've enjoyed keeping up with your progress.
Mike

[ephotrod]

Jay hows it all coming along?
Josh

[JaysinSpaceman]

Wow, I seem to be really slacking here. I've been busy trying to make a living and just haven't thought to get any pictures for you guys, sorry.

I only have two update pics for you.

First I moved my workbench in along with my little Sheldon lathe. You wouldn't believe the amount of weight that I needed to unload from this workbench to move it, cylinder heads, blocks, cranks, manifolds and the majority of it was cast iron or steel. If I had to guess about 1000+ lbs. of engine parts. But it is here now and my dad is letting me store the parts at his place still.



The second thing I did is to find a tool box that I could put just my welding and fabrication tools into. So I consolidated all of my general auto and mechanics tools into one box and freed up this old Snap-On for the welding tools. I have a label maker and so I started to label the drawers that have tools in them that are going to stay in those drawers. The rest will get labels as tools find their homes. I labeled the drawers so that when friends come over to work with me I don't have to tell them where the tools are constantly or tell them where they belong when it comes time to clean up.



By the way the first picture was taken with no electric lights on in the shop just the natural light that comes in through the clerestory at about 9am. Come about noon time these days I really don't need the lights on at all to work in the shop. Even though the clerestory was a bit of a pain to build, and added considerable expense, it was well worth it.

For Chromeyellow who asked about the shelves, they are bolted to every stud along the wall and the chains hang at the outer edge of the shelf. It means that you have to work around the chains but so far it hasn't been any problem.

I haven't gotten to my crane yet but I have the I-beam I need and I hope to start work on it soon, when I do I'll post up pictures.

Thanx for waiting for me to post an update.

Jaysin

[Jack Olsen]

Looks great. Your fan base appreciates the update.

Having just rocked through today's mild 4.1 quake, I wonder: what happens when a propane tank drops onto concrete? (I honestly have no idea if there's a ignition/explosion danger from that.)

The natural light is awesome.

[JaysinSpaceman]

So it also dawned on me that I have just installed the stops that the clerestory windows open against. As you know it was winter when I finaled it and I had not quite gotten to making limit stops for the windows, but now it is almost summer and it is time to get them open. So here's how they look open. They do a wonderful job of venting the building and I think they will go a long way toward keeping it cool during the summer months to come.



The two end windows open as well they just aren't in the picture.

And just to show off another tool that I designed and built, a roller stand for holding material while cutting it in my horizontal bandsaw. All the parts were designed in autocad and cut out on my cnc plasma table. The height is adjustable with the spinner handle under the roller.



Well that all for now.

Thanx for looking.
Jaysin

[Fins/413]

Beautiful job on everything. The welding table is fantastic and it gave me an idea of how to provide for movement on a bench of mine. Right now I've got old piano rollers under the legs which works fine until you try to put too much torque on something in the vise. The table reminds me of a workbench my neighbors got out of the Lehigh Valley RR shops in Sayre when I was a kid. The top on it was at least 3/4' thick and liked to have ruined several of the men that helped unload it. More photos as the work continues please.

[rieferman]

Really insprising, all of it. Very creative, and great craftsmanship. Props

[ephotrod]

Very nice work as always! I think you need to start posting in the fabrication section and share the vast amount of knowledge you have, with people such as myself. The clerestory windows look great, I may just have to steal your idea and design for myself in the near future.
Josh

[A_Pmech]

Great work Jay, I love the architecture!

I'd like to hear more about your plasma table. I've been knocking around the idea for a while now. Is yours shopbrew, or a commercial unit? Regarding the lightening holes on your roller stand, are they as-cut? Damn nice surface finish if they are! Love the stand design, I like your design style.

[firebird1999us]

Awesome!

[shocksystems]

Beautiful shop.

Jim

[ol55]

Nice job! Great fabricating skills. That 37 pickup looks right at home in there. I should have built a garage like yours, it would match my house!!

[Vinko]

This thread is tits. The shelving (a design which I'd considered, except I'd wanted to use marine cable), the welding table, the material holder or rolling stand, all of it. Great stuff. I love the aesthetic of it all especially.

[sharpe427]

Just read thru the thread..awesome job full of nice details. I appreciate a guy who does it himself rather than farming everything out. Especially nice that the whole family seemed to be involved. One detail I really like is the concrete block used as the footers. having the 2-3 blocks around the perimeter make it easier to clean (less dirty walls) and, IMHO, give it an 'old fashioned' appeal.
Great job!

[Vicegrip]

Very nice shop and work on all the details. It looks like a happy place where good work will come from for many years. Please continue to post you work. It is good to see good work.

[SteveG]

Great build,,, on everything - garage, metal fab etc!

[chromeyellow]

Jay,

Thanks for the answer and congrats on making the front page!

James

[AussieDan]

Congratulations, your shop is a work of art.

[Enloe]

I love the shop and the vent windows are awesome.

[JaysinSpaceman]

Man-oh-man!! You guys are going to give me a big head or something. I am really glad everyone likes it and I hope that you feel free to take ANY of my ideas and use them. I am happy that I could bring something good to this great forum.

Thanx
Jaysin

[sandbag]

hey Jaysin, check your PM's

[hobie1dog]

Awesome work, beautiful welding too. You are a lucky man.

[e-tek]

Originally Posted by Jack Olsen

Having just rocked through today's mild 4.1 quake, I wonder: what happens when a propane tank drops onto concrete? (I honestly have no idea if there's a ignition/explosion danger from that.)

It's an acetylene tank and nothing much. They roll around, you pick them up. But just so jumpy-Judy's don't flip out, people normally affix them to the wall somehow. Guess I should do that with mine some day.

Originally Posted by hobie1dog

Awesome work, beautiful welding too. You are a lucky man.

+1 here!

[T VETTE]

Just found this thread and what a really nice looking shop you have. You really built a one of a kind!!! I plan to do a small additional shop this spring.

You mentioned PG&E and by looking at the trees was wondering if I live near you or not. I am off HWY 41 below Yosemite in Coarsegold Ca. Nice Job!

[Fidget]

Wow, that is really a great space you've made! I admire your creativity, drive, talent, and the way your family helped you out.

[peter08]

After seeing this, my shop is officially just a 'shed'.

[ephotrod]

We'd like to boost your ego even more. Please take more photos of your shop as you use it. You have such great ideas and talent that its unbelievable. Your pictures and shop have inspired some creations in my shop.
Josh

[mdesloge]

awesome shop! one thing - won't the paint on the bottom of your welding table burn off the first time it heats up?

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by mdesloge

awesome shop! one thing - won't the paint on the bottom of your welding table burn off the first time it heats up?

Well if I am welding on the top of a piece of 1/2" plate that measures 4' x8' that is a huge steel heat sink and I manage to heat the paint on the other side to the point where it burns off I have been welding WAY to long and I simply don't like to work that hard.



Jaysin

[N8]

Hey Jaysin,

One trick we do at the fab shop at work with our welding tables is wire a duplex or quad receptacle right below the top, or mid way down the leg with the cord running out from there.
That allows us to keep the immediate (grinders) tool cords tight to the table.
Better for walking around as you work.

Great shop!

[JaysinSpaceman]

Alright guys,

A wee bit of an update.

Well my clerestory windows had a small (HAHA) problem. The glue ,Gorilla Glue, decided that it didn't want to hold the windows together any more. I went to close one of them up and realized that one of the corners of the wood frame had come apart and upon closer inspection we found the two of the 4' windows had all but completely fallen apart.

Now the corners had been assembled as a bit of a T & G (tongue & groove) but my father, the wood guy, didn't really see the need for any screws, so needless to say they really started falling apart once the glue failed.

Now you may just think that it wasn't the glue itself that failed but where the joints had come apart there was no wood transfer at the joint. Now my father went a talked to the boys at Woodcrafters in Sacto and the two guys working that day both said the Gorilla Glue will not hold up to water or to the wood swelling and contracting due to moisture. We had specifically chose the Gorilla Glue because it said on the bottle that it was 100% waterproof, well that seems like a crock of S%&T to me.

Well we got the windows back together with new glue where it had come apart and screws in every joint. I also painted them with oil based primer and paint that matches the rest of the trim. I am just waiting for a hand to get them put back up in place but the world is more or less right again.

I wanted to post this up because I want other people to know that there is a possibility of problems when using Gorilla Glue where wet conditions exist around the wood. Just be careful, I wouldn't want others to have similar problems.


On a completely different note as an update on what's going on inside the shop I will send you over to a thread I started at the OFN about the build of my electric tube bender.

There are a few other things that I gotten done like some modifications to the bottom of my welding table to allow the storage of short (less then 8') lengths of steel material.





I have also started the design work for some clam shell style cabinets for more storage, when I get them started I will post up as we go.

Anyway, thanx for listening to my little rant and I hope you enjoy the bender build thread.

Jaysin

[Bevis]

got a build thread on the welding table ? or info.

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Bevis

got a build thread on the welding table ? or info.

Page 6 of this thread has a bit more info on the welding table (about 1/2 way down). If you still have questions then ask away.

Jaysin

[StumpXJ]

Jaysin, that electric bender is tits man. I built a couple of the go trike benders for my pops and I with air over hydraulic, but yours is WAY cooler. Looking forward to seeing that in action.

~ James (secretely wishing I had a CNC pasma too) Clegg.

[JaysinSpaceman]

Wow, it's been a way long time since I posted updates and I still don't have much for you, just been busy with work and life stuff. I did get a shelf built for my stereo stuff to get it off of a floor standing shelf and free up space to put other stuff.



We are also in the process of designing my cabinets and I will definitely post all that up when we get there. I'm looking at building 1-2 clamshell cabinets 4'x4' that I can store rattle cans and whatnot in the doors and then 1-2 more 4'x4' standard cabinets as well as a 4' tall 8' long standard cabinet, they will all be simple but nicely finished plywood. If people are interested in the process of building the cabinets let me know and I'll post all that as well.

Thanx
Jaysin

[valiant100SM]

Please do post the cabinet details - I may have some of that work to do on my (pending) garage, too. Plus, I just love seeing pics of your place!

Clair

[Steevo]

Jaysin,
I noticed that you mentioned Woodcrafters in Sacto, and wondered if your shop might be somewhere in the No Calif vicinity? I currently work in Sacto and live in a neighboring community, and would be very interested in possibly visiting your shop someday if you are of a mind to entertain visitors.

Secondly, I wanted to say that it is very interesting watching the progress on your shop, as what I see is the difference between someone building a shop and someone creating a workspace. You are definately in the latter group, and what you have done is both aesthetically pleasing and functional, and your projects are all well thought out from the "how well will this function for me in my daily work-flow" perspective.
I LOVE your welding table, and want to copy it!

Thanks for sharing,

Steevo

[Stuntmonkey]

Jaysin,

You have some fantastic fab skills. Really, really love your shop and everything.

[Bobby B.]

I don't know how I missed this.

Amazing work. Thanks for sharing.

[walperstyle]

I like work tables that are earthquake proof.

[Daniel Dudley]

Originally Posted by JaysinSpaceman

Now you may just think that it wasn't the glue itself that failed but where the joints had come apart there was no wood transfer at the joint. Now my father went a talked to the boys at Woodcrafters in Sacto and the two guys working that day both said the Gorilla Glue will not hold up to water or to the wood swelling and contracting due to moisture. We had specifically chose the Gorilla Glue because it said on the bottle that it was 100% waterproof, well that seems like a crock to me.

Jaysin

Sometimes with extremely dry wood, you have to moisten the wood surfaces to get gorilla glue to set and stick properly, as it needs the moisture. Maybe this was the problem ?

[JaysinSpaceman]

Hi there guys, it's been a damn long time since I up dated anything here but I told you that I would post about the cabinets that we were going to build.

Well it finally happened. We're not quite finished with the install but we have three of the five up and should be doing the others next weekend if I can get over this damn cold.

Here we go.

Because these are shop cabinets and not house cabinets they are all screwed together and we used this nifty drill fixture to do a lot of the front edging treatment. which is 3/4" x1" poplar so that the edge of the 3/4" plywood doesn't show.



The doors all have this little routed in finger notch at the bottom inside edge for the handle so that the doors are nice and smooth.



Here is the paint can holding door cabinet before it was stained. Sorry I didn't get more construction pictures, it's hard to stop the assembly line when my father, wife and myself get going.



They are stained with the same stain I used on the outside of the shop but instead of putting it on thick we wiped it on with rags and then wiped the excess off.







This is the paint can holding cabinet.







I'll take more pictures when we get the rest installed. The one that you see without doors need to have the doors trimmed because they were just a hair to snug and wouldn't close past each other and have the same gap around the edges of the doors, my father is a bit of a perfectionist and wouldn't leave it be. I think that they are turning out real well and it will be super to have places to put all of my bits and pieces so that I don't have to stare at a messy workbench all the time.

Until next time (and I'll try to make it a shorter wait), Thanx for playing along.
Jaysin

[Nostraquedeo]

It looks like from the inside, there are some dings in your steel barn doors. Are those just apparent on the inside, or are they showing on the outside too?

[Builditbigger]

Very cool shop! Have you started working on the crane yet?

[PistolWhip]

Wow, awesome build! I love everything about that shop man, you did an outstanding job!

[gonzoengineer]

I love the cabinets!

Very cool build with lots of great looking and functional ideas.

[McRae]

Just read through it all. You sir, has THE best looking shop on the forum, period!

Thanks for taking the time to post it all,

Cheers,

Mac

[R6rider]

Originally Posted by McRae

Just read through it all. You sir, has THE best looking shop on the forum, period!

Thanks for taking the time to post it all,

Cheers,

Mac

i agree... and i'm jealous of your fabrication skills.

[BlindViper]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3017/...b2606909_b.jpg
In that picture what are the black things in the joist hangers?

[Cobra4B]

You have some serious fab skills... what do you do for a living?

[Rodger]

Hey Jaysin,

Looking at the pics of your welding table...how does the combination of casters and adjustable feet work when you want to move the table? Do you screw the feet up and lower the table onto the wheels to roll it?

I want to build a moveable welding table and I may "steal" your design!

BTW...totally awesome shop!!

Rodger

[galwaytt]

Jaysin, first of - excellent work !

Funny about the Gorilla glue - I've heard people swear by it too !

I know a few have chimed in re the column, and it's a situation I come across quite often - and you're right, the alternative is humungous. We did a 11m long ridge beam, simply supported at each end, for simple 7 deg roof, and it ended up being 600mm x 250mm in section. Actually, it wasn't that expensive - €1500 - but the freight (from Austria !) was !

Your situation is exacerbated by a big ope in the gable as well, it'd take a lot more crippling and linteling, over, to take something like that as well ........the other alternative could have been, in the same postion as your post - a scissor truss, carried on the walls.

All moot now though, but I think a jib crane would be a godsend too, so you there are no bad choices, only different ones !

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Builditbigger

Very cool shop! Have you started working on the crane yet?

I have started work on the crane and I will start posting that up soon. Hopefully in the next couple three weeks.

Originally Posted by McRae

Just read through it all. You sir, has THE best looking shop on the forum, period!

Thanks for taking the time to post it all,

Cheers,

Mac

All I can say is WOW and thank you.

Originally Posted by BlindViper

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3017/...b2606909_b.jpg
In that picture what are the black things in the joist hangers?

The black things you refer to are my blocking that goes between the upper rear roof rafters above the ridge beam. With the clerestory windows in front of the ridge beam the standard wood rafter blocking was going to block a lot of natural light . I designed this metal "blocking" so that the light could come into the rear of the shop over the top of the ridge beam. Here's the picture so everyone can see what we are referring to.

Originally Posted by Cobra4B

You have some serious fab skills... what do you do for a living?

I'll give you one guess.

Originally Posted by Rodger

Hey Jaysin,

Looking at the pics of your welding table...how does the combination of casters and adjustable feet work when you want to move the table? Do you screw the feet up and lower the table onto the wheels to roll it?

I want to build a moveable welding table and I may "steal" your design!

BTW...totally awesome shop!!

Rodger

You totally have the functionality of the table down. When I need to move the table I screw the feet up and roll it away. The feet also allow me to level the table top so that I can use a level and angle finders when doing fab work.

Originally Posted by galwaytt

Jaysin, first of - excellent work !

Funny about the Gorilla glue - I've heard people swear by it too !

I know a few have chimed in re the column, and it's a situation I come across quite often - and you're right, the alternative is humungous. We did a 11m long ridge beam, simply supported at each end, for simple 7 deg roof, and it ended up being 600mm x 250mm in section. Actually, it wasn't that expensive - €1500 - but the freight (from Austria !) was !

Your situation is exacerbated by a big ope in the gable as well, it'd take a lot more crippling and linteling, over, to take something like that as well ........the other alternative could have been, in the same postion as your post - a scissor truss, carried on the walls.

All moot now though, but I think a jib crane would be a godsend too, so you there are no bad choices, only different ones !

I'm glad someone understands. It was a matter of what worked best. If I went to a solid ridge beam the door openings just couldn't be in the end walls where they are (according to the engineer). And trusses bring the ceiling height down too low for me, if I raised the walls to cope with the low ceiling truss problem then the county required the walls be engineered because they were over ten feet. Etc, etc...

Thanx to everyone for the compliments.
Jaysin

[onewaydave]

just read thru the thread. Very nice. 2 questions.

40 lb snow load and no frost free water hydrant?

If you get a chance a pic of the lathe table would be apreciated.

Yeah, keep the posts coming.

[BlindViper]

I am talking about the black fasteners in the joist hangers holding up your roof.

[BlindViper]

Originally Posted by BlindViper

I am talking about the black fasteners in the joist hangers holding up your roof.

bump on this?

[BRUISER]

Originally Posted by BlindViper

I am talking about the black fasteners in the joist hangers holding up your roof.

so is he..

look at his pic you will see the black metal in the pic..
they are there to let light in from the 2 different roof pitches.

hope this helps you understand

[nzm.031]

i just read all 10 pages and this place is incredible... it all looks so neat and tidy, every piece is perfect... im sad now that i have reached the last page, but happy that there will be more pics.

its nice to see a clean, well organised, working fab shop, so few around that it becomes stereotyped that any shop that is worked in must be messy and unorganised.

great work, thanks for the inspiration.

[BlindViper]

Those black things aren't attached to the joist hanger holding up the roof. I was just curious as to what the black fasteners are. They appear to be screws the fasteners that are made for those brackets are nails and lag screws both having a galvanized coating.

[Sloper0204]

Originally Posted by JaysinSpaceman

Is that a Wasatch Brewing Company hoody I spy there? I love me some Polygamy Porter

Very nice shop, looking forward to see the doors once you finish the rust treatment.

[BRUISER]

Originally Posted by BlindViper

Those black things aren't attached to the joist hanger holding up the roof. I was just curious as to what the black fasteners are. They appear to be screws the fasteners that are made for those brackets are nails and lag screws both having a galvanized coating.

oh you mean the little screw heads.. hahaha .. Now I see what you are talking about..

[BlindViper]

Originally Posted by BRUISER

oh you mean the little screw heads.. hahaha .. Now I see what you are talking about..

ya the screws aren't shear rated which is not good for the load of a roof

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by BRUISER

oh you mean the little screw heads.. hahaha .. Now I see what you are talking about..

Originally Posted by BlindViper

ya the screws aren't shear rated which is not good for the load of a roof

The Simpson Tie joist hangers have nails in them, they are the code required 1 1/2" 16 penny box nails that just happen to not be galvanized (bare steel). Screws are for decks and sheet rock and if you think that I would go through all the trouble to build this shop as nicely as I have only to have my roof fall off, that's just silly.

Sloper0204, the Wasatch logo it actually on a long sleeve t-shirt that I wish they still made because it is twice as thick as a regular t-shirt and is one of my favorites. On the back it says "We drink our share and sell the rest". I'll try to remember to post a pic of the doors that have naturally rusted. One end of the building get the prevailing winds and therefore gets rained on and the other end is still just bare steel.

Thanx,
Jaysin

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Sloper0204

Very nice shop, looking forward to see the doors once you finish the rust treatment.

Well Sloper, since you asked about the doors, here they are...



Sorry about the shadows and whatnot, this time of year the sun is always so low in the sky that the doors only catch full sun for about 15 minutes a day. As a side note, the doors on the other end of the shop are still bare unrusted steel, there are definitely windward and leeward ends of the building.



And I thought, as long as I am posting I should post the pictures of all of the cabinets now that they are installed. The first two over my workbench are 48" and 36" wide.



These are on the opposite wall at the other end of the shop. They are all 48" wide and the far end one has small shelves built into the doors for all my rattle cans (as you can see in the second picture). And all of the cabinets are 18" deep.





All of the cabinets have adjustable shelves so that as I start to fill them I can raise or lower them as I need. They are all stained with the same semi-solid stain that I used on the outside of the building, except here we just wiped it on and rubbed it in a bit before wiping off the excess.

Hopefully after this weekend I will have a very exciting update for you all, it will have to do with heavy lifting (about 2000 lbs worth). Stay tuned.

As always, thanx for watching.
Jaysin

[BlindViper]

Originally Posted by JaysinSpaceman

The Simpson Tie joist hangers have nails in them, they are the code required 1 1/2" 16 penny box nails that just happen to not be galvanized (bare steel). Screws are for decks and sheet rock and if you think that I would go through all the trouble to build this shop as nicely as I have only to have my roof fall off, that's just silly.

Sloper0204, the Wasatch logo it actually on a long sleeve t-shirt that I wish they still made because it is twice as thick as a regular t-shirt and is one of my favorites. On the back it says "We drink our share and sell the rest". I'll try to remember to post a pic of the doors that have naturally rusted. One end of the building get the prevailing winds and therefore gets rained on and the other end is still just bare steel.

Thanx,
Jaysin

I didnt think you would, they look black in the pictures. So I just figured I would make sure. Believe it or not I have see much much worse.

[arkangel06]

beautiful

That pole in the middles going to drive you nuts though when working on big projects.

[trust]

Sensational! absolutely sensational, thank you so very much for sharing it. I can't wait to see the crane, I'm sure it will be a work of art as well.

One thought to offer, in a past life I did some work with some laser experiments and we used massive tables that had to be ultra stable, they all had zillions of tapped holes in the surface for affixing mirror holder and such, have you thought about that for your welding table? Obviously they would need to be larger but for clamping pieces or jigs firmly to the table top they might be useful

outstanding thread, I'm looking forward to the next installment

[JaysinSpaceman]

OK, so I have a bit of a big update for you guys with a bunch of pictures (so if you don’t like pictures then go away). As I have said in past about my shop, and in particular about the big post in the middle of it, I am going to build myself a crane. Why? Well for one it makes great use of the post that is otherwise in the way in the middle of the floor. And two, I work by myself almost all of the time and I really need something besides my back to do the heavy lifting.

I have spent several nights (lots) since the completion of the building itself doing research and working through calculations with my father (the civil engineer) on the design of this crane. What we came up with is a crane that we rate at 1 ton (2000 lbs.) which should be more then sufficient for most everything that I need to lift (engines, trannys, large weldments, etc…).

The post is already in, so my crane will need to clamshell around the post instead of the usual slip over the top. I cut these rings on my plasma table and then welded the rings into these collars. The rollers are made from 3” round bar with a ¾” axle made from a bolt.

The upper collar.

The lower collar.

All of the ½” holes that you see in the top and bottom flanges will have ½” rod dropped through them and be welded top and bottom.

This is a set of pictures from the mock up of the collars so that the vertical separator bar could be positioned and welded in place. We also fit the I-beam mostly just for shits-n-giggles but also to measure the length for the upper tie rod.






This next shot is of the underside of the thrust surface for the crane to ride on. Again I designed and cut the parts with the plasma table and then welded them in place. The bottom of the lower collar will sit on this with a bit of grease between them to aid in slipperiness.


Just a shot of the collars painted an awaiting their rollers and install.


And last but not least for this post is the I-beam itself, half painted (just primer)


In the next post I will show the assembly and “testing” of the crane.

Jaysin

[JaysinSpaceman]

Alright, now for the fun stuff.

I missed the shot of us hoisting the collar up in place, mostly because my father and I had our hands full and my wife hadn’t come out to shoot pictures yet, silly me. But here I am bolting the two halves of the upper clamshell together. The upper is a bit difficult to assemble because it also has extra clips over and around the joint that help to ensure a very strong joint as the upper is in tension instead of compression like the lower collar.


We decided to use the hoist (the one that will eventually end up in use on the crane) to lift the I-beam into place instead of trying to muscle it up there.




After I bolted the I-beam in place I threw a level up and using a spacer under the end of the level closest to the pole leveled it up. What was the spacer for, you ask? I wanted to give the I-beam about ½” slope from end to pole so that when there is a load hanging the trolley wouldn’t want to roll out to the end of the crane and when unloaded the trolley would stay at the pole end where I wouldn’t walk into it constantly.


With the I-beam in place the final dimension could be taken for the tie rod and I could weld the ends in place. Once that was done the ends were secured with ¾” grade 8 fasteners.




Now I just need to hang the trolley and hoist and it’s a Crane.


Here’s some shots of the whole thing finished up and working smooth as silk.




And last but not least. These things always need extensive testing before being put into service so we found something that wouldn’t be hurt too badly in the event of a failure…







At least not if I land on my head.


So there you have it and it only took me 3-4 months to do the design, and find the supplies, time and money to build it. But I guarantee that my back will thank me in the long run even if my brain hates doing the calculations to get this thing built.

I’m sure that you guys will have questions and I will do my best to answer them. However, if you ask for the design I will not give it to you simply because I am not an engineer and I wont be responsible for something falling on your head, so don’t bother asking. But I will be happy to answer anything else.

Thanx for playing along,
Jaysin

[harvey4804]

wow that crane looks awesome! 2 questions,
1- it looks like there's 2 bolts missing on the lower portion of the I beam where it connects to the lower collar (4 instead of 6)
2- why was the long piece of all-thread used opposite of the I beam between the two collars?

[Steve in SoCal]

Jaysin,

Great work; if I may suggest UHMW as a bearing material for the thrust surface. This is what is now used on many semi fifth wheel plates and I have used it with roller chain on conveyors with good results.

Steve

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by harvey4804

wow that crane looks awesome! 2 questions,
1- it looks like there's 2 bolts missing on the lower portion of the I beam where it connects to the lower collar (4 instead of 6)
2- why was the long piece of all-thread used opposite of the I beam between the two collars?

1- Good eye, I managed to get the wrong number of bolts. I need to pick up two more.

2- because of the way that the tie rod loads the upper collar it can twist/tilt it so that the rollers don't run flat against the post, so the all-thread acts as a tension link in the rear to stop this from happening.

Originally Posted by Steve in SoCal

Jaysin,

Great work; if I may suggest UHMW as a bearing material for the thrust surface. This is what is now used on many semi fifth wheel plates and I have used it with roller chain on conveyors with good results.

Steve

Thanx for the tip, for now the grease will work but if it shows signs of wear I will take you up on your advise.

Jaysin

[DIC]

LOOKS GREAT, It is built plenty stout You wont have any problems with it. Great design ,The only thing I would change would be an electric hoist.

[dtj5]

Great job on your shop and hoist...just one question, is there anything you can't do?:bowdown

[ridemc64]

Shwing!!! Love it!!!

[A_Pmech]

Nice work! Your crane is very original.

[NUTTSGT]

Wow o wow, I just spent like 2 1/2 hours reading this thread and checking out your website. Very, very impressive, you put some serious thought and detail into your work.

One small question, what is the orange wall plate ?

[JaysinSpaceman]

220v outlet, it's just orange so that I don't have to cehck each plug for the right style/voltage. I'm glad you like my shop and work, I pride myself in going to the extra effort that the little details take.

Thanx
Jaysin

[NUTTSGT]

good idea.

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by dtj5

Great job on your shop and hoist...just one question, is there anything you can't do?:bowdown

Truth be told I really just build stuff. I'm willing to do the research, learn the technique, and give it a try. Believe me in the past there are plenty of failures, but (and this is the important part) I learn from my mistakes. The failures teach us more then the successes. That and I tend to over build things. If something is beyond my knowledge I will seek out someone that can teach me.

Really, it's not rocket surgery.

Jaysin

[TAMPAGT07]

Originally Posted by harvey4804

wow that crane looks awesome! 2 questions,
1- it looks like there's 2 bolts missing on the lower portion of the I beam where it connects to the lower collar (4 instead of 6)

I can see 10 bolts, 2 missing. Ahhhh. you used your fingers to count! Am I right? And ran out of fingers? Do what I do, bust out the toes....Just kidding.....Great build JaysinSpaceman.

[Richard D]

Originally Posted by JaysinSpaceman

Super nice shop; I saw the crane on the H.A.M.B. The cool thing about the graffitti, if for some remote reason the drywall is ever removed many years from now, you'll get a kick out of it.

[azotto]

Very nice shop! Having had my own small fab shop, I can really appreciate some of your ideas.

[E30bimmer]

How have I missed this great thread? To your credit, your shop looks right at home in it's environment of rural California, which I think is a plus. Great individual design is so appealing. As is the '37 Chevy pickup and all the metal fab stuff you make. The hanging steel doors are great and have begun to oxidize nicely.

Oh, how I wish I could be there right now enjoying one of those Newcastles with the all warm, natural sunlight coming in. It's been grey skies here in Chicago for so long I forgot what the sun looks like.

[dub warrior2]

Greetings from the UK.
Congatulations on such an awesome workshop. A truly beautiful workspace.
You guys are lucky to have so much space over there to build stuff.

PS If you ever have a problem getting Newcastle Brown ale, PM me.

[79maliburacer]

very nice shop - good job

[Rich]

Wow, I just found this thread tonight and it's one of my favorite builds so far.

It just got better and better, culminating with that crane...the crane rocks. I like the way all your brackets have curves and holes in them -- it makes a normally ordinary element very stylish.

You're a very talented guy. I wish you lived next door.

[UncleJedley]

What a beautiful build Jaysin!

New to this site and just read through the entire thread.

You have some great talent. Your welding skills are awesome!!!

I wish I lived closer to you so I could hang out, help and learn.

Thanks for all the posting, especially with the photos.

Ray

[JaysinSpaceman]

Thanx very much guys. The building of this shop was a labor of love and really even exceeded my own expectations in the way it turned out. It still stops me in my tracks as I walk down to it from the house, it just looks like the place that I want to be working.

Thanx
Jaysin

[Spaggs]

Love the stained glass. You have something in your shop that nobody else has.

Keep up the good work.

Spaggs

[VegasBruce]

Awesome shop build

[PhantomEB]

Truly is a work of art, especially when wood meets steel.

[PhillyRow]

Wow, glad I read this one, great info and built by a true fabricator. Thanks for sharing with us!

[ephotrod]

Jay do you have any updates for us! I still can't get over your workspace, (i know a bit creepy) but i have dreams of myself working in a shop like yours.
Josh

[rartuin270]

Originally Posted by JaysinSpaceman

The upper collar.

The lower collar.

All of the ½” holes that you see in the top and bottom flanges will have ½” rod dropped through them and be welded top and bottom.

Those are some purdy welds

[gdf_77]

What an absolutely great shop. I will be using some of your ideas when I get to build mine, someday.
The one thing I would suggest on your welding table, if you do alot of work with angle iron is to weld on a 1/4x2" bar (2" side run vertically) spaced off of the top 3/8 to 1/2 flush with the top. I had done this at work on one our tables. I had placed a small bend in the bar stock so it acts as a clamp to hold the angle to the table. So if you imagine a "slot" that you place one of the legs of the angle iron into.This works great for marking, drilling, sanding and grinding the backside of the angle iron.
I wish I couold post a pic, but I am out of the country right now. I hope this makes sense.

[Fauj]

Your shop is amazing. You also have awesome fab skills.

Great Work!

[JaysinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by ephotrod

Jay do you have any updates for us! I still can't get over your workspace, (i know a bit creepy) but i have dreams of myself working in a shop like yours.
Josh

I may have a few updates but I will have to take some pictures and since I am away on vacation it wont be for a few days.

Originally Posted by rartuin270

Those are some purdy welds

Thanx, I pride myself first on strong welds, then on pretty welds. And I had better be a good welder as it is what I do for a living.

Originally Posted by gdf_77

What an absolutely great shop. I will be using some of your ideas when I get to build mine, someday.
The one thing I would suggest on your welding table, if you do alot of work with angle iron is to weld on a 1/4x2" bar (2" side run vertically) spaced off of the top 3/8 to 1/2 flush with the top. I had done this at work on one our tables. I had placed a small bend in the bar stock so it acts as a clamp to hold the angle to the table. So if you imagine a "slot" that you place one of the legs of the angle iron into.This works great for marking, drilling, sanding and grinding the backside of the angle iron.
I wish I couold post a pic, but I am out of the country right now. I hope this makes sense.

I hate to say it, as I usually visualize well, but I am not real sure about what you are describing, but it's OK as I don't do much work with angle iron. I am glad you like the shop though.

Originally Posted by Fauj

Your shop is amazing. You also have awesome fab skills.

Great Work!

Thanx to all of you that have told me you like my shop, I am very proud of it and it is really a wonderful space to work in. The clerestory windows really help to vent the heat this time of year and keep the building reasonably cool and I really don't need the lights on except early in the morning and after dark (so they help to save a bit of energy). The crane is one of the best tools I have ever built, it has already saved my back more then once. In the next few days I will try to post up an update or two the shop and maybe even a few shots of some of my work as well.

Thanx again,
Jaysin

[rartuin270]

Originally Posted by JaysinSpaceman

Thanx, I pride myself first on strong welds, then on pretty welds. And I had better be a good welder as it is what I do for a living.

yes strong is far better than pretty

[thomask]

JAYSIN,

I have seen your shop a while ago but just tonight have been able to catch back up with all your work.

You have a super build and let me add to the many others commenting that you did just a super fab job on the crane.

We will be standing by for more to come.

[terabyte]

Hey Jaysin I'll jump on the bandwagon and say it. AWESOME BUILD. I truly love it and have cataloged some pics for my future build.

If I may... You may want to drill the bottom flange for a zerk fitting to re-grease your crane. Maybe two 180 degrees offset.

[JaysinSpaceman]

So it has been a while since my last update that I promised, there has been a lot of work going on in the shop (paying work) so not much time to get on to projects that I want to do, but I'm not complaining as there is food on the table and beer in the fridge.

I finally finished up my motorcycle lift table.



It lifts using a floor jack because I didn't want all the extra expense of hydraulics or pneumatics and I wanted it to be light enough to set on its side and store against the wall when not in use.


And of course the end opposite the jack has a swing down stop to set it at different heights and remove the jack so it is not in the way.


Bike Loaded


Bike Lifted




The automatic wheel chock.


And a close up of the wheel in the wheel chock. It holds the bike quite securely but as with any lift table I wouldn't ever raise the table without strapping the bike down first for safety's sake.


So there is a new tool added to my arsenal. This lift came about because after 3-4 years not wrenching on bikes for a living I finally want to get back into it. I am going to start doing some vintage bike repair, restoration, and fabrication as a little sideline. Although the BMW on the lift in the pictures is mine and a daily rider. (it may get torn down this winter and freshened up)

I'll let you know as I finish up other back burnered tool projects and get them up and going.

As always, thanx for looking.

Jaysin

[E30bimmer]

Nice job on the lift. Thought you'd enjoy this '67 beemer I saw at my local Starbucks the other day...

[ephotrod]

Very nice I wish I had a quarter of the talent that you possess. Please keep on doing what you do, your work has many inspirational qualities to it.
Josh