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Old 09-08-2008, 01:07 PM   #1
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Default Check-A-Bolt?

Does anyone have one of these? It's like the display you see at hardware stores with different size bolts / nuts that are marked so you can match things up. I was at Rural King this morning and saw them in the hardware aisle. They had both standard & metric and were $38 / ea. I didn't count the number of bolts / nuts, but I'm guessing maybe 15 sizes of each?
I couldn't find anything on-line about them, but thought it might be a useful piece of equipment for trying to match things up?
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Old 09-08-2008, 01:23 PM   #2
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Default Re: Check-A-Bolt?

I just use thread gauges and a caliper.
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Old 09-08-2008, 02:36 PM   #3
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Default Re: Check-A-Bolt?

I use a plastic "card" about 4x8 inches that came with a nuts and bolts warehouse 20 years ago. I also now have the same in metric that cost about $2.

I am considering a tattoo on my arm with the common sizes of bolts so I can get the right size wrench on the first trip to the box. Maybe a steel ruler in my pocket would work better, but the damn HF doesn't have metric.
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Old 09-08-2008, 02:53 PM   #4
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Default Re: Check-A-Bolt?

I have a couple of different nut/bolt sizing guages and they are very helpfull to have.

$38 sounds like it too much unless it is a whole lot more elabotate than what I have.

I have the stainless steel and plastic ones that are like an index card with a bunch of holes (which works for bolts but not so much for nuts) and I have a different style for nuts and bolts that you can get at Lowes, HF, fastenall and others (even though I got mine as a promo (free)

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Old 09-08-2008, 04:08 PM   #5
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I have a couple of different nut/bolt sizing guages and they are very helpfull to have.

$38 sounds like it too much unless it is a whole lot more elabotate than what I have.

I have the stainless steel and plastic ones that are like an index card with a bunch of holes (which works for bolts but not so much for nuts) and I have a different style for nuts and bolts that you can get at Lowes, HF, fastenall and others (even though I got mine as a promo (free)

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This one is pretty elaborate. Maybe 18" long, 10 tall" on a piece of colored Lexan with a base like a table tent you see in restaurants. And it has actual bolts / nuts attached to it with the descriptions (including thread pitch) on each. There is a ruler along the top for length measurement. At first I thought they were just sitting there so you could test your stuff, then I realized they were for sale. It's a lot more elaborate than the ones they have in the hardware aisle @ Lowe's or HD. I've sold a lot of the plastic & metal gauges to my industrial customers (with their logo on it), but this is completely different.
On my kart, about half of the stuff is metric and half standard so it's a real PITA to figure out. Even the engine is half metric, half standard - you just have to remember which parts are which.
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:52 PM   #6
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I am considering a tattoo on my arm with the common sizes of bolts so I can get the right size wrench on the first trip to the box.
LOL! At least you'd have a tattoo that was useful.
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:58 PM   #7
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I use my tap and die set to find out what size bolts/nuts are.
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Old 09-08-2008, 07:48 PM   #8
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I just use thread gauges and a caliper.

Now there is man with a wise statement. Elroy was servicing the brakes on a 1997 Mustangs and wanted to replace all the bleed valves. Discovered the front calipers used a 3/8"-24 screw and the back had 10mm x 1.0.

You talk about a bitch to clearly identify.

You wouldn't have a chance in hell identifying between these threads unless you used the "crawler" method.
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Old 09-08-2008, 07:49 PM   #9
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You guys don't wrench enough. A good mechanic should be able to identify size and thread pitch by eye. Yeah, I know that 5/16" and 8mm diameters only differ by a couple of thousandths. In case you can't see the difference in diameter, just look at the thread pitch. The pitches of M8 X 1.00 and M8 X 1.25 are much different than the pitches of 5/16-18 and 5/16-24. Seriously, after about 30 years of wrenching, (not all of them profesionally) I can't always identify fastener size without a tool. Hey, it's a good excuse to buy another tool. Like nissan_crawler, I prefer to use calipers and thread pitch gauges. I avoid using taps and dies for identification because dirty, rusty fasteners cause excessive wear on them. The Check-A Bolt would probably look cool displayed on your bench.
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Old 09-08-2008, 08:04 PM   #10
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You guys don't wrench enough.
Is that a fact. Man you're too good.

Just think, knowing how much Elroy bends a wrench just from reading a few Internet posts.

Elroy wishes he was that good.

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Seriously, after about 30 years of wrenching, (not all of them profesionally) I can't always identify fastener size without a tool.
Try telling a 3/8 SAE set screw from a 10 mm. Bet ya a beer you can't.

With out looking real close at the mic

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The Check-A Bolt would probably look cool displayed on your bench.
Actually it would look better in the trash can.

Elroy will take a set of wires and a pitch gauge any day. Piss on that "check a bolt" crap.

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Old 09-08-2008, 08:11 PM   #11
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Hay "Senlow"

Try your 30 years of wrench bending experience by taking Elroy's little test:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=22142

Careful now, read the questions very closely.
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Old 09-08-2008, 08:19 PM   #12
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Make one, All the bolts and nuts you need are in the bins at the hardware store.
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Old 09-08-2008, 08:52 PM   #13
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[QUOTE=Elroy;279547]Is that a fact. Man you're too good.

Just think, knowing how much Elroy bends a wrench just from reading a few Internet posts.

Elroy wishes he was that good.QUOTE]

No, That's not a fact. Senlow is full of sh.. tonight.
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:11 PM   #14
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I just use thread gauges and a caliper.
x2.

Usually I can determine standard or metric with a visual inspection or by application (what it came out of or what it needs to go into). Course or fine thread can also usually be determined by visual inspection.

If in doubt, I'll measure the major diameter with digital calipers. Next I determine pitch with a standard or metric thread pitch gauge.

I also stock (at home) a comprehensive assortment of standard and metric nuts and bolts. I'll sometimes do a test fit with a known size nut or bolt.
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:30 PM   #15
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Hay "Senlow"

Try your 30 years of wrench bending experience by taking Elroy's little test:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=22142

Careful now, read the questions very closely.
Shoot, I missed one - 14 out of 15. My Design I professor would be dissapointed. I learned more about fasteners in engineering than as a mechanic. That is a good test of fastener knowledge. I encourage others to take it.
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I got 13/15. I'm just a farm boy turned aircraft mechanic.

P.S. that is one tough sumbitch to read. I'm pretty sure I misread one, because I was sure it was the right answer.
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I have the standard and metric version of what you are describing. I don't use it much, but my non mechanical wife and 6 year old nephew use them alot to sort loose nuts and bolts into the bolt bins at the shop.
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I am considering a tattoo on my arm with the common sizes of bolts so I can get the right size wrench on the first trip to the box. ...
That is one of the best ideas I've ever read. Hold your arm to the bolt head, and grab exactly the right wrench every time. Right arm for SAE, left for Metric. Add rulers on both arms, maybe some conversion tables. Now that's a tat I would seriously consider.

There's also the possibility of a "if found, return to..." tat on one's butt, if one perhaps were to drink a little too much and need to be returned home.
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I got 13/15. I'm just a farm boy turned aircraft mechanic.

P.S. that is one tough sumbitch to read. I'm pretty sure I misread one, because I was sure it was the right answer.
I actually believe your score. I am somewhat skeptical about that senlow dude though. He likes to toot his own horn just a little too much.
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They are just irrelevant. Senlow could get all the questions wrong for the test but still means what he said about recognizing sizes of fasteners using his bare eyes. Practice makes perfection. With 30 years of experiences, Senlow impressed but not surprised me.



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