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Old 03-26-2009, 03:39 PM   #1
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Default Montana 40x30 Cobra Shop Project Begins

Finally broke ground this week, just in time for my wife to remind me we still might owe taxes, so I better slow down! ;->

The project will be a 40x30 vintage-garage type shop, mostly for car projects. I already have the lift to go into it, so I needed at least 1 bay of 12 foot ceiling, but didn't want it to be too tall. So, I decided to go with a split-level design, one bay at 12' and 2 more at 10' ceilings. There was another forum member that did this as well, and it seemed to work well.

The pictures are pretty boring right now, but it's still exciting to get started.

I have pretty much all of my planning done, so now the work begins. I should be able to get the forms set in the next week or so. We ended up having to do some creative stuff with the grade, and decided to do a small retaining wall instead of making the front of the building 22" off the ground. Hopefully, that was a good decision. I'm in the country, so other than basic electrical inspections, I have free rein to do whatever I want. Right now, all said and done, since I'm doing almost all of the labor, we'll be in the $13k range, including driveway (gravel), so all in all, not bad.

My nosy neighbor called to ask what I was building, so I told her "I'm building a 5-story firefighting training tower..." She didn't think it was funny.

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If you want to see what I'm building in it first, go here: http://www.kdcobrabuild.com
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Old 03-26-2009, 05:26 PM   #2
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Nice, Any pics of the Cobra project?
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Old 03-26-2009, 05:30 PM   #3
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Nice, Any pics of the Cobra project?
I haven't picked it up yet, I bought a barely-started kit from a guy in WI to save a little coin. You can see a bunch at the blog, but here's one I'm modeling after.
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That's gonna be one expensive car after you factor in the cost of the garage. Good luck with your project.
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Old 03-26-2009, 07:37 PM   #5
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That's gonna be one expensive car after you factor in the cost of the garage. Good luck with your project.
SSHHH! My wife might be listening! She DID say I needed a hobby!
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Old 03-26-2009, 08:32 PM   #6
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I see you're over here as well. It's good to see another FFCobra.com member hanging out.

Good luck with both builds.

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I see you're over here as well. It's good to see another FFCobra.com member hanging out.

Good luck with both builds.

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Hey Ray!

Nice avatar...between this and the ffrcobra.com site, I'll be totally broke by Fall! ;->
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Old 03-26-2009, 10:55 PM   #8
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I think i may know where the split height idea came from....

Looks great so far!
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Old 03-27-2009, 07:39 AM   #9
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I think i may know where the design slit height idea came from....

Looks great so far!
That's right Purdue....we'll be doing the beam a little differently (probably a truss set up instead of the I-beam, but yep, your shop was the inspiration...we'll hope I can do it was well as yours turned out!
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Old 03-27-2009, 09:24 AM   #10
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Hey Beartooth, I remember your thread from last year when you were just in the planning stage and concerned about building height and that "industrial look" . Glad to see you've worked that all out and have started. Can't wait to follow the progress of your build. Good luck, it looks like it's going to be a beauty when it's done.
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:11 PM   #11
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Well, it finally stopped snowing and dried out enough to get some gravel. I was able to get 2 lifts of gravel in for a total of about 7.5" of gravel. I'm doing a 12" turn down, so that puts me 4-5" of concrete once I'm done. I elected not to do the full foam board under the slab, funds are too tight. I'll insulate from the side instead.

You can see just a small portion of what the truck driver did to my lawn. This was after he was empty. When he was full, he managed to leave a 12' x 20' area of 12" deep ruts. Nice, so I used the skidsteer to do a little dirt work. I'm hoping the grass comes through, but if not, I'll either use the sod from where the driveway will go or replant. Something to consider is truck access when you're planning.

We'll shoot the final grade tomorrow and I'll start on forms and fill in low spots and take off high spots on the gravel. Fun stuff!



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That'll be a great shop. Hopefully the distributor will be in the right place in your Cobra, unlike the kd guys. Good luck on the build.
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Old 05-16-2009, 06:22 AM   #13
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Well, the weather in April was not cooperative. It finally stopped snowing, and I was able to get the rest of the forms in and all of the goodies. We're doing the first 2 pours on Monday.

We elected to do 3 separate pours rather than one big one so we can get it as good as we can, and doing 1200ft all at once can be tricky, even with a big crew. This way, we can relax just a little bit, don't need as many guys, and all of that.

Here's a pic showing everything in place. It's a mono-pour, so 2x12 forms which will handle the footings that are a 16-18" turn down. I have rebar in place (top and bottom) in the footings and the wire mesh in as well. No vapor barrier in as it's so dry here (10% humidity), the local concrete guys said it creates more trouble than it's worth. It's a part time shop, so no insulation either, I couldn't justify doubling the cost of the pour for that, and since I have a lift, I don't EVER plan on laying on a concrete floor again. ;->

The two holes you see are 3x3 "footers" for my 2-post lift. Not really necessary, but figured I'd do it anyway. You can also see my daylight drain lines (i'm in the country.)

More progress pics next week I hope. If the weather cooperates, we'll have the concrete in and get to framing.

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Old 05-18-2009, 09:09 PM   #14
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Poured the first 2 sections of concrete today, and it went together quite well. 6 hours of work, mostly watching, waiting, and touch up. The concrete driver was awesome, and was able to put the mud right in the place we needed it, so not a lot of moving it around.

We'll pour the other (middle) section and the apron on Friday. Considering I saved more than $5000, I'm pretty pleased with how it's all going together.

We start framing on Tuesday, and it should go up quickly!

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SOOO happy to report that the second and final pour is complete! The concrete is offically in. All that is left is just one final expansion cut and stripping the forms.

You too can do your own concrete. Frankly, it wasn't all that bad. The worst of it was I underestimated my delivery by 1/2 a yard. They have a 3 yard minimum, so 38 bags hand mixed later, it was done. Hand mixing isn't the best, but at an extra wasted $300 for the minimum delivery, it was our only option.

So, all in all, very pleased, and ready to start framing on Tuesday. Still waiting to hear on our trusses and when they are coming in, but we'll get the walls up on Tuesday nonetheless.

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We have some walls!

Over the last couple of days, we got the walls up. The trusses will be here today, so we'll get things sheated up the trusses set. We'll get the roof on over the weekend, and be dry pretty soon. Hopefully, if all goes well, we'll be siding next week.

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You're living the dream, man. Congrats!
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Great progress. Can't wait to see it finished.
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Looks great, That's one heck of a beam up front!
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Looks great, That's one heck of a beam up front!
Yep, glulam...$300 board, spans the whole front, but I think we needed it to help with that gerter that'll carry the wall height differences.
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