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Old 06-04-2009, 12:27 PM   #1
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Anyone have or know someone who has a Greyhound small engine? I was told they are Honda clones but I want to get some real world opinions on them. I got a flier from Harbor Freight in the mail that had a coupon for a 6.5hp horizontal shaft model for $109.99

Here's a link to the engine at regular price:

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Old 06-04-2009, 12:54 PM   #2
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heck, at that price i'd buy one even if it wasn't a copy.... don't they have extended warranties for things like that??
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"Not Available in California" ?! WTF?

I am rebuilding an old front throw reel mower and could REALLY use one of these. Maybe I need to bribe someone who lives out of state to buy one and trans-ship it to me!
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Old 06-04-2009, 02:25 PM   #4
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The CA-ban is emissions related.
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Old 06-04-2009, 02:49 PM   #5
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Man, what a deal for a "go cart" that needs an engine!
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Old 06-04-2009, 03:07 PM   #6
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I'm sure that it's made over seas. But that's an unbeatable price. A Briggs & Stratton Engine would be about $350.00. And knowing that they set up a plant in China, I'd imagine it was made there also...
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Old 06-04-2009, 03:10 PM   #7
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How would you go about getting any parts thought for an engine like that? Even simple stuff like a carb rebuild kit.

Used Tecumseh and Briggs engines are easy enough to find and cheap, so I'll stick with them.
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Old 06-04-2009, 03:13 PM   #8
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I have a Briggs and Stratten 6.5hp engine like that sitting on the shelf in my garage waiting for me to find a use for it.
It came off a scrapped rototiller. Maybe I could make a motorized wasp shredder.
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Old 06-04-2009, 03:40 PM   #9
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"How would you go about getting any parts thought for an engine like that? Even simple stuff like a carb rebuild kit."

It wouldn't last long enough to need any parts. Odds are that it would grenade itself within the first couple of hours, at the outside.
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you know you always hear crap about harbor freight things.. i bought their 2800 psi presure washer with a 6hp mitsubishi engine and went through i dont' know how many tanks of gas... and it still starts on the first or second pull and just keeps on ticking....
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Every single part is available for that engine. It comes as a kit and costs $109.99.
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Old 06-04-2009, 04:45 PM   #12
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Excellent engine! Yes, the honda gx-160/200 parts interchange. the carbs/rebuild kits are the same as honda. I have 4 of the Harbor Freight 6.5 hp some HIGHLY moddified, pushed to the limit well over 14 hp each, spinning well over 6500 rpm. Using a combination of Honda, ARC, and other aftermarket parts. I have 2 6.5's that are bone stock, and 1 13hp (GX-390 clone) have not had ANY issues with these engines.

Keeping the gov. connected and/or keeping it under 4500 rpm (3600 is normal), with regular oil changes and the thing will last forever. If something does happen, they are the easiest of all the small engines to work on!

For those that speak badliy about these engines perhaps they should check out 4 cycle karting forums and the "clone" class. Briggs and Tech's are available used. Techs are GARBAGE! The company is out of the small engine business. Techs carbs SUCK ASS, no choke WTF! I actually retrofitted a Harbor freight 6.5 "clone" carb to a tec vs. paying out the rear for a tec carb with a choke.
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"Not Available in California" ?! WTF?

I am rebuilding an old front throw reel mower and could REALLY use one of these. Maybe I need to bribe someone who lives out of state to buy one and trans-ship it to me!
Sounds like you need a road trip to Vegas. There's a HF there.
Stripper and hookers, too. Not in the same building, though. Well, maybe they are, but they're not "on the clock" if you bump into them in the screwdriver isle.

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Old 06-05-2009, 01:59 PM   #14
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I understand the clones are actually made in the same factory as the Hondas.
Honda uses Chinese factories.
(They just use Japanese quality control people.)
So the only difference is the paint.
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Old 06-05-2009, 02:07 PM   #15
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Sounds like you need a road trip to Vegas. There's a HF there.
Stripper and hookers, too. Not in the same building, though. Well, maybe they are, but they're not "on the clock" if you bump into them in the screwdriver isle.

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You don't SUPPOSE.....nah...couldn't be. Harbor Freight Chinese-made hookers and strippers in the LV Harbor Freight? Cheap skank? Oh, never mind. I forgotthat ALL skank is cheap and anything HF sells would have to be cheap or they wouldn't sell it
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Old 06-19-2009, 12:29 AM   #16
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I am also wondering where Greyhound engines come from. We buy from Harbor Freight, and were thinking about buying the OHV Gas Engine to replace the one on our ATV. Anyone know where Greyhound engines are made? Or have you had any luck with them.

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I am also wondering where Greyhound engines come from. We buy from Harbor Freight, and were thinking about buying the OHV Gas Engine to replace the one on our ATV. Anyone know where Greyhound engines are made? Or have you had any luck with them.

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Read above, they are manufactured in China. Same as the Honda design.
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I understand the clones are actually made in the same factory as the Hondas.
Honda uses Chinese factories.
(They just use Japanese quality control people.)
So the only difference is the paint.

Honda has a couple of places in China so they can import cars. As far as the small engines, they are made in Japan. There are import/clone engines that are very similiar but not made by Honda. Made by Chinese and not marked Honda.
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Oh.I thought you meant HF was selling 8V71 Detroits..............
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Old 06-19-2009, 03:10 PM   #20
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"Not Available in California" ?! WTF?

I am rebuilding an old front throw reel mower and could REALLY use one of these. Maybe I need to bribe someone who lives out of state to buy one and trans-ship it to me!
What kind of bribe are we talking about?

I have been thinking of getting one for an old snow blower that I have. I saw on another forum that someone bought one and had really good things to say about it. I have looked at them in the store and they look pretty nice.
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Old 06-19-2009, 11:11 PM   #21
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i think im might be buying one of these engines soon
im planning on building a mini bike for my girlfriends little brother and want an inexspensive motor to throw in
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Old 06-20-2009, 01:53 AM   #22
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I own the 13 Horse with electric start, I used it to build a 6.5 KW generator set. The govenor is excellent, less than 1 Hz variation from a sudden shift from No-Load to 5 KW. The engines are made by Lifan, a motorcycle manufacturer. I have no regrets from my purchase, nor from the after sale support when I ordered a replacement ignition key or requested additional technical information after the sale.

My next engine will probably be another Lifan with the Harbor Freight Greyhound Logo.
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I Have a chinese honda clone 300w generator. Its been used for over 5 seasons at a camp where it logs some very long hours with absolutely no issues.
I switched to 0w-40 synthetic oil after the first season and change the oil once a year.

BTW I reccommend synthetic in any small engine used in cold weather.
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I bought one after work yesterday. It was on sale for $129.99 + I found a 20% off coupon online (Father's Day deal). Total cost was $111.01 OTD.

I am going to replace my 5hp GC Honda on my pressure washer with this one. Reason being, the replacement pump I bought required an engine in the 5hp - 6.5hp, but the motor was having a time with the 15deg tip. Can't go wrong for the cost.

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I have a question.

I have one of the Harbor Freight Engines that is labeled as a Central Machinery 6.5 H.P. on a go cart. I made some modifications to it to make it work with the throttle pedal and it works well. Hauls my fat A _ _ no problem.

The problem I am having is when you take a turn too sharp, the engine stalls. I suspect it is caused by the Automatic Compression release opening up and losing compression. Any suggestions on the most effective way to turn the auto compression release in to a manual or any other ideas as to the cause of the stalling?
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"Not Available in California" ?! WTF?

I am rebuilding an old front throw reel mower and could REALLY use one of these. Maybe I need to bribe someone who lives out of state to buy one and trans-ship it to me!
Before you make the trek to Vegas, know that there's also a CARB-certified version of the same engine -- in the past, at least, the California Harbor Freights have sold it for the same price.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=66014
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I have one of the Harbor Freight Engines that is labeled as a Central Machinery 6.5 H.P. on a go cart. I
The problem I am having is when you take a turn too sharp, the engine stalls.
Most likely it's the low oil shut down killing it, one of the first problems the go-kart guys had with them. You'll have to disable it, not sure if you can just unplug it, or if you have to short it out??
Go to 4cycle.com and ask in the clone section.

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Yeah it is probably the low oil shutdown or a carb starving issue. The compression release mechinism is centrifugal and it would be nearly impossible for it to activate once the engine was at speed.
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I have a question.

I have one of the Harbor Freight Engines that is labeled as a Central Machinery 6.5 H.P. on a go cart. I made some modifications to it to make it work with the throttle pedal and it works well. Hauls my fat A _ _ no problem.

The problem I am having is when you take a turn too sharp, the engine stalls. I suspect it is caused by the Automatic Compression release opening up and losing compression. Any suggestions on the most effective way to turn the auto compression release in to a manual or any other ideas as to the cause of the stalling?

DO NOT MESS WITH THE COMPRESSION RELEASE!!! It is most likely the low-oil cut off. Just snip the wire coming out of the front of the engine. When you go around a corner the oil goes away from the sensor and kills the ignition. Been down this road before.
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Question for Nadogail...

Where did you get the replacement ignition key for your 13hp Greyhound engine? I just bought a Harbor Freight 16HP generator that was on display and found the two keys were missing after I got it home. I contacted HF customer service who said they will track one down and mail it to me but that was 3 weeks ago and still no key.

I would even be happy if you can tell me where to find an image of the key. I am willing to try the old Dremel on a piece of flat steel as long as I have some idea what shape to make it.

Thanks for any help you can give.
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i suspect this is just a honda type key, any honda dealer should have those kicking around too should work with that clone engine.
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don't forget to check out the car magazines... most all of them now have HF ads. with a 20% off coupon in them....
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I just bought the 2.5HP Greyhound engine last week. I used it for running my motorized mechaincs creeper. Anyhow, check out this post for more shots and info www.garagejournal.com/?p=439#more-439

The only junk thing on these motors are the the govenor / throttle linkage system. I was easily able to strip this all off and efficiently re-route the linkage. Tuning was easy. I had that motor up and running 5K+ RPMs in less than a half hour. You have to disconnect the low oil sensor or the motor shuts off on big bumps or turns. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...?albumid=11372


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How would you go about getting any parts thought for an engine like that? Even simple stuff like a carb rebuild kit.

Used Tecumseh and Briggs engines are easy enough to find and cheap, so I'll stick with them.
These motors come with a detailed instruction manual with a full exploded view bill of material / parts list. They come with a 1-800 number for ordering new parts if you need them. You can download the .pdf manual for any of these motors from the Harbor Freight web site. They even have motor mount locations specified, and shaft specifications for clutch bore and related keyways.

Here is a link to the product manual download for the 2.5HP motor:
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Every single part is available for that engine. It comes as a kit and costs $109.99.


I can't remember where, but somewhere I've read really good things about those motors, possibly over at a landscaping forum. Seems like everything, or close to it, was interchangeable with the Hondas.

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Dowies, you are the man by the way, I'd be scared to go that fast that close to the ground.
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The $139.00 motor is EPA certified the $159.00 motor has a CARB Certified Sticker and costs an extra $20.00.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=66014

How much do you want to bet it is the same motor and CARB charges $20 just so that they can label it CARB Certified.
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Thanks JD6619A. It took a lot longer to find a Honda key than I thought it would but the key worked perfectly.

And for those who are wondering about the clone engines with the Greyhound nameplate... I decided to try starting my new 16hp with the pull-starter just to see how many pulls it would take. One pull and it ran like a champ for hours! If I need another engine it will be one of these clones.
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How would you go about getting any parts thought for an engine like that? Even simple stuff like a carb rebuild kit.

Used Tecumseh and Briggs engines are easy enough to find and cheap, so I'll stick with them.
You can get most parts through Harbor Freight, I bought a new Crank for a 6.5 and cost about 29.00 with shipping. I tried to use the engine on a chipper which orginally had an engine with a 1" shaft the 6.5 had a 3/4" it worked for awhile but didn't hold up. I replaced the crank and its running fine with no problems.
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I've got that exact engine (but CA cert'd) on a log splitter I built in Sept. It's sat in the rain and cold for the last month or so, and still starts with 2 pulls.
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Hi Folks
I'm new to this forum. See a lot of discussion about Harbor freight engines here.
I purchase closeout and returns from HF. Have about 10 6.5 engines in stock. Also Have 11 and 13 HP with electric start.
Looking for a place to sell these motors. Is it o k to post them for sell here or is that against the rules.
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I understand the clones are actually made in the same factory as the Hondas.
Honda uses Chinese factories.
(They just use Japanese quality control people.)
So the only difference is the paint.
This is totally, 100% false. Honda is very much against the clone engines and there have been many lawsuits. Why would Honda allow a factory to produce their engine in another color for another company for less than half the price? Honda very much hates the availability of these clones, and the quality is NOT nearly the same.
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This is totally, 100% false. Honda is very much against the clone engines and there have been many lawsuits. Why would Honda allow a factory to produce their engine in another color for another company for less than half the price? Honda very much hates the availability of these clones, and the quality is NOT nearly the same.
I think we have a bingo here. The last 2 places i've worked we couldn't work on the clone engines cause we were a honda dealer. some of our customers were swapping out the engines on crown cement mixers when they were toast and installing the "chonda's" We received a letter from honda corporate not to work on or install genuine honda parts and accessories on the counterfeit engines due to the lawsuit going on with the Chonda engines and Honda.
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I think we have a bingo here. The last 2 places i've worked we couldn't work on the clone engines cause we were a honda dealer. some of our customers were swapping out the engines on crown cement mixers when they were toast and installing the "chonda's" We received a letter from honda corporate not to work on or install genuine honda parts and accessories on the counterfeit engines due to the lawsuit going on with the Chonda engines and Honda.
Exactly. No Honda dealer will work on them, and they won't sell you parts if you tell them you're fixing a Chonda.

But seriously, how dumb do you have to be to try and pay a professional at least an hour of labor to fix a $109 engine?
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i have the same engine on my go kart it runs great and starts first pull its a great engine
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"Not Available in California" ?! WTF?

I am rebuilding an old front throw reel mower and could REALLY use one of these. Maybe I need to bribe someone who lives out of state to buy one and trans-ship it to me!
They also have a CARB certified engine.
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I have three of these engines. They have been reliable until yesterday. Pulled them out of the shed and two of the three started but I have not gotten the 3rd one on my Log splitter to run. Everything works except that there is no spark. Changed the plug from one machine to another still no spark. Checked the oil level shutdown and it seems ok. So I guess it is back to Harbor Freight tomorrow. I have a two year extended warrenty and it is only a year old.
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They come with many different name labels but all from China. I have also seen DuroMax and other labels. Maxtool.com sells parts. You can track them down on the web to a Chinese factory. They seem to be OK for a throwaway engine. You can buy three of them for the price of a Briggs or Honda. The kart guys run the piss out of them. I have always wondered if they have a cast iron sleeve or just an aluminum bore.

China has always manufactured clones, there is no legal protection for intellectual property there. Even if Honda manages to shut down the factory it will re-open the next day under another name.
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I was just wondering if there is any place to buy parts for the 6.5 hp greyhound engine that will improve its performance? Like air intake, exhaust, etc.

Also, how do u remove the governor on it and is this dangerous?
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Try this place:
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Yes, removing the governor is dangerous with the stock flywheel.
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I was just wondering if there is any place to buy parts for the 6.5 hp greyhound engine that will improve its performance? Like air intake, exhaust, etc.

Also, how do u remove the governor on it and is this dangerous?
http://www.affordablegokarts.com/performance_basics.php

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If you remove the governor, your valves will float and/or your carb will not supply enough fuel to cause damage. You would be lucky to get over 4200 rpm.

I've installed larger cams, heavier valve springs, ported/shaved heads etc. and can spin one of mine to 7500 rpm. I've put almost 2000 miles on my "kart" and have yet to have an issue.

I will say this, there was a HUGE learning curve. First problem; every time I would take a corner too fast, the motor would shut off. Solution- disconnect the low oil sensor.

Second problem: severe after/back fire. Found sheared flywheel key. This was not the stock key but one of the filed keys to advance the timing. Solution: use lapping compound on the taper and torq the flywheel to proper spec. I made a tool out of a 3/4" shaft coupling and welded a handle on. That with a key on the output side allowed me to get enough torque. NEVER EVER use an impact to tighten the flywheel.

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Fourth problem: symptoms same as above after installing a GX160 14 cc head, lash caps, and a different cam. Found a bent push rod. Solution: Chrome moly push rods, and set the darn lash correctly.

(Second engine) After taking what I learned from the first, I took this one a step further and installed an ARC billet rod, flat top pison, GX390 carb, custom cam, GX 160 18cc head, alum. flywheel with fins cut, and a few other mods. Damn thing developed a mysterious oil leak. Found that I ran Mobil 1 during the break in and the rings didn't seat (iron bore). In fact, the cross hatching was still in perfect shape after 6 hours of break in time. Solution: regular old 30 wt. until break in then Mobil 1. Also had to add additional breather to the crankcase.


You can make these things mild to wild. There are some guys making 30 or so HP on a Harbor Freight special. The best thing about these engines is the cost of admission is low. They are great to learn on and are really only limited by your skill, budget, and desire to go fast.
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I have three of these engines. They have been reliable until yesterday. Pulled them out of the shed and two of the three started but I have not gotten the 3rd one on my Log splitter to run. Everything works except that there is no spark. Changed the plug from one machine to another still no spark. Checked the oil level shutdown and it seems ok. So I guess it is back to Harbor Freight tomorrow. I have a two year extended warrenty and it is only a year old.
Could be as simple as a loose wire on the kill switch. Could also be that the gap between the coil and flywheel is a little too much. You can rule out the low oil sensor by just unplugging the wire going to it. Checking these may save you from removing the engine and returning it to HF. Just a thought.
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I started up my rototiller today after sitting for about 5 months. I always shut off the fuel, so turned it on, med throttle and full choke. Fired right up on second pull. I ran it up to the shed to put it away for winter. Drained the gas tank and then ran the carb out of gas.

The low-oil switch was also causing me problems on the rototiller when at angles. If you just cut the wire, it won't cause the low oil to shut down the engine. Grounding the wire does kill the engine. Just in case anyone else is wondering how the low oil switch works.
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you cant "run the carb out of gas" on anything except for diaphragm carburetors. There will always be a little fuel left in the bowl and it will go bad that much faster. If you want to do it properly take the drain nut off, it should be angled out at about 45*, 10mm. I would recommend doing this as the brass coating on the bowl is thin and does rust/pit very easily. Either that or just put some stabil in the fuel and run it to cycle it through the system.
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i love these pointless threads, of information that was posted up last week, why is it that no-one actually searches the forums, most things have been covered before....
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i love these pointless threads, of information that was posted up last week, why is it that no-one actually searches the forums, most things have been covered before....
Actually, this thread goes back to '09, so if this thread is "pointless" and restates information from last week, perhaps it is last weeks thread which necessitated such a reply. Or did you just read the last couple of posts relating to running the gas out. If so I love it when people don't read the entire thread.

Sometimes it's a good thing to have a bit of information posted in different threads, results in different keywords being used and different points of view. Unlike the threads bashing a brand, this thread was informative and useful.
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Actually, this thread goes back to '09, so if this thread is "pointless" and restates information from last week, perhaps it is last weeks thread which necessitated such a reply. Or did you just read the last couple of posts relating to running the gas out. If so I love it when people don't read the entire thread.

Sometimes it's a good thing to have a bit of information posted in different threads, results in different keywords being used and different points of view. Unlike the threads bashing a brand, this thread was informative and useful.
Nope, I read the whole thread. its just as bad bringing up a thread from the "dead". I don't think its really informative and useful. But that's just my point of view. Then again, this thread should really be in the Free parking section as well, since its about things we park in our garages.
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Contrary to other reviews of this engine, I found it to be complete junk. I tried using one on a leaf blower and after a required no-load break-in period I used it one hour before the crankshaft twisted off like a piece of clay. It is obviously not heat treated or hardened in any way. The peripherals are cheesy, example: the air filter hold down is plastic inside the carb, that broke immediately. The low-oil shut-down is problematic and needs to be removed to get the thing to start. Don't waste your money and time on this junk.
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I have a GX210 on my kids kart, Before that we were running an ethonal powered BS animal. I have a KT100 and and I am debating right now on converting to a TAG 125 powered engine.
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At last Aprilís sidewalk sale they had them @ $89. I used a 20% coupon and got it for $72. it is still sitting in the box.
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I have put three of them in gokarts for friends. I think for the money you can't beat it. i put one in mine and removed the governor. It is a blast to ride. I think I paid about $90 for mine a year ago with the 20% coupon.
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Contrary to other reviews of this engine, I found it to be complete junk. I tried using one on a leaf blower and after a required no-load break-in period I used it one hour before the crankshaft twisted off like a piece of clay. It is obviously not heat treated or hardened in any way. The peripherals are cheesy, example: the air filter hold down is plastic inside the carb, that broke immediately. The low-oil shut-down is problematic and needs to be removed to get the thing to start. Don't waste your money and time on this junk.
One post wonder doesn't like the engine... so what? We've got a guy posting on here that's building freakin' racing engines out of these... so I'm thinking, who do I listen to:

1)the guy who's on here and posts actual, factual tech infomation or,

2)a one post wonder who posts speculation and nothing more?

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Any more information on the Honda lawsuit? Are they actually produced in the same factory or did the company steal the engine specs and throw their sticker on it?
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Honda engines are made in Japan and the USA. If they're making blocks or any major engine components [besides belts] in china its news to me.
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Actually most of the real Honda Gx-200 blocks were cast in Thailand IIRC. I think Honda used differed COO's based on output shaft, ie 3/4 or 22mm for gearbox. The HF engines ARE NOT made in the same factory as Honda's. There are differences in quality. A real Honda block is superior no doubt. Honda cranks are better as well.

The newest Greyhound motors differ from real Honda's just enough to skirt the patent issues. Ie 5 bolt valve covers, gas tanks, tins, etc.
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I bought the 6.5hp greyhound motor from HF yesterday. After putting oil and gas in it the motor came to life with two pulls. I put it on a go cart for my boys and it has worked flawlessly so far. On another note I bought a service plan for $20.00 extra that will replace the engine for free no matter what happens to it for two years. You bring the old motor in to HF and they give you a new one no questions asked. Only thing is I was told by a fellow that worked there that they will not have the greyhound brand soon it will be another name but they still honor the 2 year service deal. Hope this helps.
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You can get most parts through Harbor Freight, I bought a new Crank for a 6.5 and cost about 29.00 with shipping. I tried to use the engine on a chipper which orginally had an engine with a 1" shaft the 6.5 had a 3/4" it worked for awhile but didn't hold up. I replaced the crank and its running fine with no problems.
I race the HB 6.5hp with few modifications, header, breather, 18lb valve springs, honda flywheel for safety and a stock animal or honda does NO better and thats with them having the same mods. The HB engines do run pretty damn good stock.
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You could say im Horbor Freight sponsered. Blow em up and it only cost 11 dollars to replace and the animal and honda runs no faster.
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I bought on last year and got it for $78 out the door after the sale price with a %20 off coupon. The engine is still in the box as i have not found anything to use it for yet.
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they are on clearance right now for 74something. I paid less than $60 for one with the 20% coupon.
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I have a 6.5 and a 13 hp both have been running good for 3yrs one is on a wood splitter and it sounds like hell but keeps on runnin
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I too just picked up one of these on clearance for less than 60 bucks for my tiller!
Hopefully the the new Predator series they are coming out with are similar in quality and price!

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they are on clearance right now for 74something. I paid less than $60 for one with the 20% coupon.
Same here, out the door for about $60 tax included. 6.5 hp horizontal shaft model.
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A couple years ago or so, I put a 6.5 hp on an old chipper to replace a 6hp Tecumseh that was starting to run erratically. Yesterday, I put one on an old tiller that also had a 6hp Tecumseh that was exhibiting the same performance problems as the other one. I had to swap out five fractional mounting bolts for metrics to fit the new motor, but everything else was a direct swap. The new motor started on the first pull. The engine on the chipper has been reliable and trouble free. The only thing I'm pissed off about is that I thought $75 was a steal until you guys reminded me I could have used a 20% off coupon! Now I've got to figure out what to do with two 6hp Tecumsehs.
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I thought $75 was a steal until you guys reminded me I could have used a 20% off coupon!
Depends on what cashier you go to. Most seem to know that your not suppose to use 20% off with any other coupon.
Worth a try!
My 1st 6.5 was a pile, swapped it at day 90 of the 90 day warranty and 2nd one is great!

Thinking I should buy another for "stock"
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Depends on what cashier you go to. Most seem to know that your not suppose to use 20% off with any other coupon.
Worth a try!
My 1st 6.5 was a pile, swapped it at day 90 of the 90 day warranty and 2nd one is great!

Thinking I should buy another for "stock"
$75 is the sale price without using any coupon. They are getting rid of stock so it is the in-store sale price. You can use the 20% coupon on the engine.
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Has anyone figured out why these are discontinued?

Is HF replacing it with an updated model, or did Honda finally stop them?
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Changing Brands, musta found even cheaper Chinese kids to assemble them, on a side note the Honda crank will swap right in, my brother has about 6 of them for their kart racing effort.
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I use one of these for my little camp ground cruiser... works great. I was actually in HF the other day... and they had the 11hp model on closeout for 150. i should have bought it... and would have if the wife wasn't there. she asked what i needed it for... lol
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I own a small engine repair business and also build adult sized go karts. I have put nothing but the clone engines on them and have had great success with them. All parts are readily available and reasonably priced.

I am an approved USA dealer for Azusa Engineering parts, Bullet Lines torque converters, and Lifan Engines (another Honda Clone). I went to the clone engines because the costs of Briggs and Honda engines is so outrageously high! Interested in clone engines but not sure about them? Go ahead, get one. You will be pleased with it!
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I own a small engine repair business and also build adult sized go karts. I have put nothing but the clone engines on them and have had great success with them. All parts are readily available and reasonably priced.

I am an approved USA dealer for Azusa Engineering parts, Bullet Lines torque converters, and Lifan Engines (another Honda Clone). I went to the clone engines because the costs of Briggs and Honda engines is so outrageously high! Interested in clone engines but not sure about them? Go ahead, get one. You will be pleased with it!
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I bought one, and retrofitted it on a small four wheeler. Worked great.
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I bought one, and retrofitted it on a small four wheeler. Worked great.
would love to see a pic of some of the details. i have a 110cc quad and was thinking about putting one of these HF engines in it.

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Well, since you asked, it was what i considered a 50cc chassis but originally was equipped with a 110cc from china. Long story short, the oil pump locked up on the little 110cc but I thought the kids would enjoy it if I could get it back running. So I bought the 6.5 hp for $99 from HF. Stripped the entire chassis of plastics, wiring, and drivetrain. Welded a sheet metal plate to the lower frame bars with corresponding holes to mount the motor base down to, being careful to line up the engine's output with the rear drive sprocket. I used a go-cart clutch for it. I removed the fuel tank and muffler from the engine so it would fit in the frame. I plumbed a fuel line from the original wheeler's tank to the new engine. I ended up having to slightly angle the box style muffler to fit in the frame. Cut the pipe, added a small curved section and re-welded it. In retrospect, I coulda plumbed it to the original chassis muffler too but I had grown somewhat impatient at that time. String the chain up and trim the plastics just a tad and she was off an running. Motor cranked first pull every time. I found though that the chassis's gear reduction is not near sufficient for this engine combo. The reason is because the original motor/trans had a gear reduction inside of it, as well as the chassis sprocket's gear reduction. So, I burned up a clutch almost immediately. The way the chassis was set up with a 37 tooth sprocket, it was giving me no take off and 60+mph once going. It was a very scary ride. I changed to a slightly smaller front sprocket and a 60 tooth rear and it became very driveable. Mid-range power/torque on the little 6.5 is awesome. Was bored with it at that point so I sold it to a buddy for $125 and he fools around the yard with it after he has had a few beers from time to time.

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Old 12-22-2011, 02:15 AM   #87
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I replaced the motor on a wood chipper with one of the 6.5 HF motors and I have been highly satisfied. The HF "greyhound" starts every time and operates the chipper better then the OG (B&S) motor did.
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How would you go about getting any parts thought for an engine like that? Even simple stuff like a carb rebuild kit.

Used Tecumseh and Briggs engines are easy enough to find and cheap, so I'll stick with them.
At that price, there is only one part to replace. Just get a new one!
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Old 06-09-2012, 11:45 PM   #89
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I have a greyhound 6.5 hp engine and the cerbital clutch went out er whatever its called..its the clutch thats on the end of the gear shaft n im wondering how i would get ahold of one i have the 66014 engine

id appreciate any help thank you
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I HAVE THE 13HP version on a wood splitter. it has to have 400 hours on it, and i have done nothing but change the oil. starts extremely well in the bitter cold, and is incredibly fuel efficient if anyone even cares. everyone i split with makes fun of it, but at the same time is impressed with the apparant quality and dependability.

i also have the 6.5hp version still in its origiinal box, awaiting some future project
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:24 AM   #91
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I have a question.

I have one of the Harbor Freight Engines that is labeled as a Central Machinery 6.5 H.P. on a go cart. I made some modifications to it to make it work with the throttle pedal and it works well. Hauls my fat A _ _ no problem.

The problem I am having is when you take a turn too sharp, the engine stalls. I suspect it is caused by the Automatic Compression release opening up and losing compression. Any suggestions on the most effective way to turn the auto compression release in to a manual or any other ideas as to the cause of the stalling?
My step dad built a go kart for me from scratch and put this engine on it. I had the same sharp turn problem as you. We tried a ton of different things before we found that the low oil cut off sensor was setting off because the oil would slosh even when filled all the way up. I am so happy I can turn and properly drive my go kart again. Hope this helps you. Just find the little black box that is near the cut off switch on the 6.5 hp version that has wires going in and out of it and open it up. I think my step dad just popes it open with a blade. It does close back up! And there is a green wire. Disconnect it. You have solved your problem. If your problem continues just private message me or reply to this I'd be happy to help. All input and info comes from my step dad. Now the green wire thing I will check on to double check it acctually is that wire. If I can post a picture I will. I can't check now because it is night time by me. I will have it all final for you tomorrow around 5 pm my time. It's 12:18am my time now. So again just reply or private message me with any questions.
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