30x30 2 story garage and connector

[Cryptic1911]

Posted this on another forum, just copy & pasting the contents:

Starting a "build" thread for an addition thats going on to the house.. it's going to have an oddly shaped ~12x18 connector, and a 30x30 garage, both two story. Going to have a wide open loft area up top with vaulted ceilings for living space, and an open garage on the bottom with a lift and 12ft ceilings. There's already a 24x24 garage with a loft on the lot, but thats going to be a big shed and motorcycle storage area. The new part is going to be for working on cars only

The first pic is from last winter of the end where the addition is going. We had to tear down the old porch area since that slab is being taken out for the new foundation and all that.



I would have some other pics here that I thought I took yesterday, but I think I was too exhausted and forgot to actually turn the camera on or something.. either way, I don't have any real in progress pics.




Here's the floor and the roof section that we cut off. We had already taken the walls away to my sisters house so they could burn it in the bonfire.



The roof was a pain in the ass, had to knock off the support beams, then cut between the planks with a sawzall to get through the two layers of shingles and tar paper to make them into managable sized pieces



and here it is all cleared. They are supposed to start tearing up the yard tomorrow, so I'll get some pics of that.




Here's the flat tire we got while dropping off the scrap wood at my sisters house.. the bead on the wheel just tore somehow. It was so much fun changing a tire on the truck after spending two days demolishing a porch:




Here's part of the porch getting torched:

[Cryptic1911]

Ok today they came in with a skidsteer and an excavator and tore up some of the yard, as well as removing the 62yr old concrete slab (real pain in the ass), and digging part of the footings for the connector area. They are coming in tomorrow with a couple triaxles of fill, and then are going to dig the footing for the garage area

first pic is part of the plans for the downstairs.. the crooked part on the right is the existing house.. its at a weird angle compared to the street, and the town wanted us to be 30ft (29 now that they widened the road after we got the permits) all the way across, so that means that the garage is going to be at an angle vs the house.. which leaves us with a triangular shaped connector in the middle:


this pic is part of the plans for the upstairs. its going to be wide open on both floors, so it'll be a big loft:



They showed up around 8:30 this morning with the dumptruck, a skidsteer, and an excavator:



You can see the existing 24x24 garage on the lot in this pic with their equipment:


That slab that used to house a screenporch that we later closed in apparently wasn't just a slab.. they had actual footings, and it was a total bitch to break up with the jackhammer:



They had to bust out the center, then get part of the footing busted up so that they could dig out the dirt in the middle and break the footing away with the excavator:



Here's part of what they dug out:



Once all the 60+ yr old concrete was gone, it was on to digging:







Tomorrow they will be digging the footings for the 30x30 garage area

[Cryptic1911]

The guys came back today and started digging the trench for the footings for the garage:






Got a triaxle of fill to spread out in the center where the slab will be, and some down in where the footings will go:






The last thing they did before the monsoon came was string up the posts to square everything up for the footing forms that are going in tomorrow and getting poured. should have foundation walls on thursday if everything goes as planned

[KMR Construction]

looks like there doind a nice job

[thomask]

Looks like a great project.

You are doing a great job on documenting your progress with photos.

Keep us posted.

I did an addition also and when I finally had the permits and slab in I felt like I was half done.

[Cryptic1911]

They were back this morning, and were just finishing up putting in the forms for the footings when I left for work.. they should be poured by the time I get home

[Cryptic1911]

When I left for work in the morning they already had the footing forms just about done:




I got home and the footings were poured and curing.. foundation walls should go up tomorrow






they are making good time so far.. cant wait for wood to start going up!

[Kevin54]

Looking great so far. Can't wait to see the wood going up either

Is that a groove through the middle of the footer? If so, is it to lock in the block and mortar? Never seen that done before.

[Cryptic1911]

i believe its so that when they pour the foundation walls on top, they have a ridge on the bottom so that they get locked into the footings. not that they are gonna really go anywhere, but i've seen it done a few times.

when I left this morning, they were putting up forms for the walls.. those should be up on the square garage footing today, tomorrow they are gonna pour the two small connector walls

they are also supposed to be digging out some stumps around the yard, as well as tearing out the front walkway, and the existing driveway

[JMURiz]

Fast work, looking good thus far.

One question, are there going to be windows on the 'back' of the garage to match the front of the house? Will surely look like a car-house when done

[Cryptic1911]

nah, not going to have any windows in the garage area downstairs. dont want people being able to see in the windows. upstairs there will be some windows, and in the connector there will be some up and down to make it a bit more presentable

[JMURiz]

I see, I also see that you have two 'fronts' and the one I thought was the front was really the back-door. I think I see it now

[Cryptic1911]

Came home today and had some foundation walls poured:

[Cryptic1911]

The cement guys came back today and removed the forms from yesterday, formed up the two connector walls, and poured. The one thing I noticed was the cutouts for the garage doors are a little bowed (looks like the cement didn't come all the way to the bottom of the board), but I think that will be ok because they can make up the height when they do the slab. I think we've made great progress so far.. 5 days from breaking ground to having foundation walls poured

[Bevis]

Nice and fast build (so far)...subscribed to this one.

[Cryptic1911]

the holes were backfilled today, still need to be compacted though. they also tore up a few stumps and things around the yard.

[KMR Construction]

Lookin good, gonna add some room to that house

[KMR Construction]

Any updates??

[Cryptic1911]

Originally Posted by KMR Construction

Any updates??

not really, but we did drill some holes in the inner foundation wall to run some conduit since we decided to backfeed the old house from the new panel on the addition. The conduit should be dropped in today. I think the slab will be poured soon as the builder called yesterday and he said he should be ready to start building in about 3 weeks.

also got materials quotes, he said about $15k for materials not including the windows and shingles since he wasnt sure which type we wanted, but the windows are gonna run like 6k. thats not including drywall, insulation or siding.. going to have to do siding on the new and old, plus windows in the old. I think we'll make it with the money thats left.

I'll post up more pics as we get some actual progress

[sreno]

Originally Posted by Cryptic1911

nah, not going to have any windows in the garage area downstairs. dont want people being able to see in the windows. upstairs there will be some windows, and in the connector there will be some up and down to make it a bit more presentable

The drawback to windows is giving up all that shelf-space along the walls.

Great build and clearly documented! I look forward to seeing the results.

Shawn

[hidollartoys]

Cript, Just a thought about the second floor tie-in area..... You might consider access to the second floor of the existing house so you can access the second floor area of the garage from there. I guess it depends on what you are planning for the second floor of the garage.

[Cryptic1911]

theres a bedroom on that wall of the old house

had cement trucks at the house at 6:15 this morning pouring the slab.. will post pics later

[Cryptic1911]

Ok here's the pics from this morning when the slab was poured

6:15 am:










don't mind the conduit half sticking in the cement :laugh: that was a goof on our part when we drilled the holes in the cement.. we measured wrong, so it was slightly low. doesnt really matter since there will be 2x8 framing on the floor there to give us room for the conduit and plumbing into the old part of the house






Its 6-7" 3500psi with fibermesh and chickenwire on top of 6 mil plastic. Its pitched about 1 1/4" to the front

[T VETTE]

Real nice job on the documentaion and pics! Will continue to follow the build. I hope to do same next spring so all eyes here.

[bunnyknuckles]

Any updates???

[Hardware]

Nice Build so far... are you putting a bathroom in there? maybe in the connector part?

[Kevin54]

Ditto on the updates!!!!!

[Cryptic1911]

Originally Posted by Hardware

Nice Build so far... are you putting a bathroom in there? maybe in the connector part?

The stick building hasnt started yet.. I think they are starting on Monday? been tied up with another job because of the delays we had in getting the cement poured, so they took another job in between.

Yeah, There's going to be a toilet / laundry room in the back half of the connector.. front half is going to have an outside door, door to garage + old house, and stairs going upstairs..breezeway I guess you would call it, and then there will be an apartment over the garage. It's gonna be pretty cool.. open loft with vaulted ceilings. I'll get some pics up as soon as I have some new ones

[Curt_pnw]

Nice! I like the design a lot with the breezeway and all. Nice Vw's too, looks like they will have a fine space to be worked on when this is finished.

In for more pics!

[Kimmer]

How is it going with your garage..?

From Kim in Scandinavia

[Cryptic1911]

I was a bit off in the start date for the stick building, so its just a slab for right now. They've ordered the materials, so I think possibly in the next week or week and a half they should be starting

curt_pnw, thanks, nice corrado.. I used to have a 90 g60 myself.. would much rather have had an slc with a vr6 though.. one of my fav motors. I've had 4 of them so far. hopefully going to rebuild a 95 gti that i have into a vr6 turbo in the future

[veedubman91]

very nice work. nice vw's too

[Cryptic1911]

since there are a few vw people in the thread, I'll post up some quick info and pics of the cars:

2008.5 gti - 2.0t TSI motor, APR stage2+ flash, APR intercooler (fuckin huge - bigger than most radiators), 42dd 3" catless downpipe, Autotech 3" exhaust, BSH intake, BSH pendulum mount, Koni coilover suspension, Miro stp3 19x8.5 rims, Newsouth gauge pod w/ boost, oil temp and exhaust gas gauges.

2007 Jetta 2.5l 5cyl motor, C2 motorsports stage2 turbo kit w/ t3/t4 .60/.81 hybrid turbo, Awe tuning exhaust, Seamless motorsports billet valve cover, Koni yellow shocks, Vogtland springs, Neuspeed tranny mount insert, 19x8" Audi RS4 rims, Newsouth column pod w/ boost gauge, Votex bodykit (oem VW). As far as we know, its the only 2.5 turbo Jetta in the country. Everyone else has 2.5 turbo Rabbits

both cars haul balls and have been 145+mph without breaking too much of a sweat. I want to go stage3 on my gti though.. 385ft/lbs of tq at 3500rpm from a 2l 4cyl motor is insane

[veedubman91]

very nice set-ups you have there

[back2class]

You are unique. I am on my second Jetta. I HATE these unreliable heaps of plastic Mex parts. Only on my second because it was given to me. You can't polish a turd but that garage is gona be SWEET!

[Cryptic1911]

Originally Posted by back2class

You are unique. I am on my second Jetta. I HATE these unreliable heaps of plastic Mex parts. Only on my second because it was given to me. You can't polish a turd but that garage is gona be SWEET!

hm, too bad you had a crappy experience, I've found them to be the most fun and rewarding cars to own. I've owned 6 VW's and an Audi S4, and I won't buy anything else. I don't find them to be any more unreliable than any other car.. nothing is perfect.. just gotta know how to maintain them properly

[veedubman91]

Originally Posted by Cryptic1911

hm, too bad you had a crappy experience, I've found them to be the most fun and rewarding cars to own. I've owned 6 VW's and an Audi S4, and I won't buy anything else. I don't find them to be any more unreliable than any other car.. nothing is perfect.. just gotta know how to maintain them properly

agreed. i have owned 15 vw's and would not own anything else.

[Cryptic1911]

Saw the carpenter at a cookout today, they are starting on Wednesday the 9th.. will post pics after they start

[Cryptic1911]

Progress!

The builder showed up today and got 3 walls up.. its looking quite tall already, and thats only the garage floor.. LOL.. gonna be roughly 12'6" to the bottom of the floor joists for the 2nd floor

[Cryptic1911]

They got the rest of the walls up and also got up some plywood sheathing today. In the pics, the side door sheathing hasn't been fully trimmed out, and they still had to trim 2ft over the top of the garage doors since they accidentally framed them in as 10ft tall doors instead of 8ft... OOPS guess we'll just have to get another panel for the garage doors now.. thinking about it, it'll look a bit better since the downstairs walls are quite high anyways

[Cryptic1911]

actually, here's a shot from like 15 minutes ago that shows the front openings fully cut to their 10ft height

[Cryptic1911]

We got rained out on Friday, but some more materials were delivered:



Roof Trusses


4 30' LVL beams for the the center span to support the 2x12 floor joists

[autoist]

Any input from the neighbors?

[Cryptic1911]

Originally Posted by autoist

Any input from the neighbors?

nope, too late for that.. we went around and had everyone sign a form and notified them of a zoning hearing, and noone came except the neighbor that works at the town hall.. he was just there because he was in the building at the time

[Cryptic1911]

Came home today and they had put in the center beam, floor joists, and some of the subfloor. the beam is a monster, like 7"x23", 2x12's every 16" and the subfloor is glued and nailed in tongue & groove

not sure wtf I was looking at in the pictures, but it shows how tall it looks inside

[Cryptic1911]

Got all the subfloor and some upstairs walls put up today:

Gonna have to get some tall arborvitae trees for the "back" side and the side towards the old garage so they don't look like total crap.. kinda sucks having road on 3 sides, can't hide the ugly part in the back yard!

[KMR Construction]

seeing that LVL brings back memories of some bad jobs. 24"ers are not fun at all

[Hodge]

wow, this is a great thread, keep us posted.

[thetastelingers]

Garage bigger than the house.
Hell yeah!
Nice build.

[Cryptic1911]

The whole upstairs is done now



Below is the really ugly side of the plywood fortress.. This is where the tall arborvitae tree's are going to go to hide the lower floor.. didn't want any windows so people could see into the garage looking for stuff to steal. Also the end wall has no windows upstairs because its going to be a big open room upstairs as well. has kitchen / bathroom on the end towards the house, and both the front and back walls have large windows. Needed a wall for storage, so that one was it



They also started building the connector between the two:

[porschedude996TT]

Looks great! I wonder which way the roof is going to pitch. Not much room with the windows on the facing side of the house.

[Cryptic1911]

Originally Posted by porschedude996TT

Looks great! I wonder which way the roof is going to pitch. Not much room with the windows on the facing side of the house.

oh the windows on the old house? those are getting patched up.. the connector is going to be two story, so it'll go right over window and the door downstairs, and the two windows upstairs

[rieferman]

I've really been enjoying this read, thanks for the update.

I apologize if I skimmed over it, but I'm curious as to what you will use the connector space as? I know it will act as a hallway between the spaces, but it seems like it's big enough to also be a reading area, an office, good heat controlled storage, or something.

[porschedude996TT]

Originally Posted by rieferman

I've really been enjoying this read, thanks for the update.

I apologize if I skimmed over it, but I'm curious as to what you will use the connector space as? I know it will act as a hallway between the spaces, but it seems like it's big enough to also be a reading area, an office, good heat controlled storage, or something.

I think he said "Yeah, There's going to be a toilet / laundry room in the back half of the connector.. front half is going to have an outside door, door to garage + old house, and stairs going upstairs..breezeway I guess you would call it, and..."

[Cryptic1911]

^ yup, exactly.. The downstairs is just going to be a breezeway / mudroom in the front, and the back a bathroom / laundry room. upstairs will probably have some shelving for canned / boxed goods and that kinda stuff since its going to be oddly shaped after having the stairs from downstairs + landing, and the steps + landing to go into the area above the garage

[JMURiz]

Coming along nicely!

[348guy]

Lookin good man! Now you're going to have to make the house look as pretty as the garage.

[Cryptic1911]

Been slacking with the pictures, but we got the window and door removed and patched up where the stairs are going in



Also got the upstairs finished, roof trusses on, plywood down, and the shingles should be going on soon

[Hardware]

Now its startin to look like something... ton of space upstairs..

[toyomatt84]

I'm loving this remodel. Plus, the cars are a nice bonus as well.

Great work thus far.

[SnyperBob]

Looks awesome. I think I would have put some windows on the back lower half to break up the look a bit. Even if they're unused and blocked off from the inside. Just looks different

My local codes would never allow a garage taller than the house, I'm jealous!

[moose knuckle]

Very nice looking addition!!

[twostory]

Originally Posted by SnyperBob

My local codes would never allow a garage taller than the house, I'm jealous!

Since this is an attached garage, it is part of the house. Your local codes probably allow you to build a bigger house. Thus you could probably do a similar build in you area.

[Steevo]

Great thread. That is quite a garage addition. It really makes the old place look huge.

[Cryptic1911]

here's one from today.. they got the connector part finished up with the gable section on, and the roof + underlayment? on

[John Dillinger]

Question ? I am wondering why you poured concrete between the house and then framed a raised wood floor over the concrete floor?
Thanks John

[Motown 454]

This is a sweet build. That is going to be comfortable place to work.

[Cryptic1911]

Originally Posted by John Dillinger

Question ? I am wondering why you poured concrete between the house and then framed a raised wood floor over the concrete floor?
Thanks John

so we could run the plumbing and electrical under the floor without having to have it in place ahead of time

[John Dillinger]

Thanks John Dillinger

[autoist]

The more I see, the better I like....at first, I thought the garage was going to overpower the house...but, now it looks like one large house with an attached garage - can't wait until the entire thing is sided & looks like it has always been there.

[Cryptic1911]

hopped on the ladders and got up into the 2nd floor today to look around:






Here's the landing from the connector to go up into the 2nd floor over the garage (floor heights are off so it needed a landing)



This is the landing from the connector, no stairs yet obviously, but I'm going to make a server rack underneath the landing so that I can terminate all the cat6 cabling and RG6 wires in there on a patch panel to feed the rest of the house, as well as have a spot for the router, wireless access point, 48 port gigabit switch, and my rackmount servers. Probably throw in a touchscreen for good measure :laugh:

[Mr. Welsh]

Looking great. Can't wait to see more!

[PistolWhip]

Wow man that's awesome! You added a whole house to your house...

[Cryptic1911]

Originally Posted by PistolWhip

Wow man that's awesome! You added a whole house to your house...

yeah, pretty much.. the upstairs of the garage is just about the square footage of the two floors in the existing house

[Curt_pnw]

Wow, lots of progress since I last checked. Looks awesome man!
Yeah I love my rado and the VR6. I just recently bought some used Koni coils for it. It's nice and low now. Next is finding a nice set of wheels.

Keep it up, i'll try and check in more often for updates.

[Cryptic1911]

couple updates- they got the roof finished, and some tyvek up, and a few windows in:

[Loadre]

I love this build. Keep up the good work.

[autoist]

Where are you located? & I agree you need some windows on that huge blank wall - does it face any neighbors?

[Cryptic1911]

I'm in CT, and the side faces my old garage and the side of someone elses house. I didn't want any windows in the garage downstairs (things grow legs around here), and since its going to be a big open loft upstairs, I needed one wall without windows. The one on the connector side is going to have a bathroom and a small kitchen

[PistolWhip]

You had the perfect peace of land for that build man, its like it was supposed to be like that from the beginning.
I'm kinda in a tough spot with my set up since I live in a rancher that takes up almost the entire width of my lot. Luckily I have a very large back yard so I can build back, but back and up would be awesome if I could afford it.

Can't wait to see the finished product on this one, I'm sure your going to be thrilled.

[Motown 454]

Very nice build ,you'll have plenty of room.

[Cryptic1911]

Took a ride down to a warehouse surplus place to check out some pallet racking.. holy cow, if anyone needs heavy duty shelving for a garage, there is nothing better.. its reasonably priced and readily available and super heavy duty. After talking to the guy, I'm going to end up getting 4 10ft uprights (they cut down if needed), 24 108" crossbeams, and 24 sections of wire decking. In the end, it should end up being a 10ft high 28ft long run 42" deep with 3 shelving sections with 4 shelves each. Going to use one section as a workbench.. should be plenty rugged as each shelf will hold like 4000lbs

The place I went to is www.aasurplusinc.com, they have some stuff shown on their site, but they have tons more actually in stock

[Frank Elson]

Pallet racking is well made stuff, but then, when you get a shelf four foot wide and eight foot up, putting stuff up there, and getting it down again, can be a bit of a pain...

Sometimes 12 inch wide shelving can be more user friendly.

[Cryptic1911]

yeah, you do have a point.. but I'm probably going to install a cheap electric hoist on a rail so that I can get things up and down more easily

[hondad]

This is my favourite build so far. I`m really looking forward to seeing how it turns out.

[jocool1585]

Good call on the pallet racking use in the garage! The great thing is that you can always reconfigure it in the future if your needs change. Great looking build! What are you going to heat the space with?

[posaune]

Originally Posted by Cryptic1911

I'm in CT, and the side faces my old garage and the side of someone elses house. I didn't want any windows in the garage downstairs (things grow legs around here), and since its going to be a big open loft upstairs, I needed one wall without windows. The one on the connector side is going to have a bathroom and a small kitchen

I just found this thread and *thought* it looked like a CT house. Nice build! What is going in the new space? I see a bunch of VWs in those pics...

[Cryptic1911]

going to heat it with a hot dawg gas heater like my other garage. as far as whats going in it, the new gti and jetta and a lift after i'm not so broke.. LOL

[M-technik-3]

Very nice build you have there, where in CT is that? I live in Mass, wish I could build that close to road without zoning issues.

[Cryptic1911]

its in willimantic

[M-technik-3]

Buddy of mine lives in Willimantic

Love the golf V on the OZ futura's.

[Cryptic1911]

actually they are copies of OZ Mito's.. but close

[M-technik-3]

Darn those are nice got a link to them? They would look killer on my M.

[OUNATE]

AWesome E30!

[Cryptic1911]

yeah they would look killer on there.. they are miro stp-3's in 19x8.5 5x112 bolt pattern, but I have seen them in 5x120 and real low offsets like down into the 20's for BMW fitments. I got mine at www.ngpracing.com, but I've seen them on a few other sites and ebay as well. Just google it and look for a place that offers them in BMW fitments

if you get some, link me to a pic.. I think they look incredible on anything

[Cryptic1911]

Here's some new updates:

They put in some temporary stairs:





Framed in a bathroom upstairs:



Roof is completely done, all the tyvek is up, they put up a short roof over the garage doors, an entrance roof, and the people doors are in:

[darkzschneider]

looken great!

[Cryptic1911]

Got us some garage lighting this morning.. had a manager at Walmart order us 30 of their 4' dual t8 fixtures ($9.82 ea item#1164918). Its gonna be daylight in there :laugh:

[Loadre]

No such thing as too much light. Can't wait to see it all lit up.

[Motofixxer]

Light is good but just make sure to use multiple switches for different areas or every other light kind of thing. That way you turn on what you need and you don't cause brown outs in Venezuela cuz you walked in to grab the mower. I also put 2 switched outlets in the ceiling so I can just flip on any kind of task light or whatever I want to mount.

[autoist]

I'm waiting to see the whole thing, house & new addition...bet it isn't going to look like a tall garage; but, just a garage under the housee's 2nd floor.

[Cryptic1911]

Originally Posted by Motofixxer

Light is good but just make sure to use multiple switches for different areas or every other light kind of thing. That way you turn on what you need and you don't cause brown outs in Venezuela cuz you walked in to grab the mower. I also put 2 switched outlets in the ceiling so I can just flip on any kind of task light or whatever I want to mount.

yeah, putting in 3 switches, one for each bay and one for the workarea lights over the bench / shelving at the back

[JBAUTO]

Wow i realy liked this a big 30x30 garage with a addition to the house.

I wanna see more pics.

[ckgdrums]

What a great project! Tons of space!

[viper522]

Wow that really looks good. I have a question which anybody can answer. Where does one get funds for such a transformation? I've just bought my first house and I can't imagine coming up with another $100k for a big add-on like this.

[KMR Construction]

Work hard, save money where and when you can, and be paitent. Also wait till you have enough equity to take a loan ot build


Winning the lottery would work to

[honda-boy]

Just read tru the entire tread, great looking addition to the house

[cashishift]

why didn't you just make the roof of the addition and the old house the same instead of making 2 seperate heights for the one part there before it meets up to the high roof of the garage?

[Cryptic1911]

Originally Posted by cashishift

why didn't you just make the roof of the addition and the old house the same instead of making 2 seperate heights for the one part there before it meets up to the high roof of the garage?

just to break it up a little.. the old part is at an angle compared to the addition, so it would just look weird coming to a point at the same height

[Motown 454]

It looks great.

[Cryptic1911]

CL&P are a bunch of retards.. We paid them to put in a new pole about 8ft past the current poles, and remove the existing ones (yes, old one and a newer one) to make room for the new driveway

They show up a week and a half ago, see the newer of the two poles currently there and go "oh, someone already swapped it" and drove back to the shop. Apparently they didn't read the work order since they were supposed to be installing a 3rd pole and taking out the two that are there.

The supervisor confirmed that the crew had a misunderstanding and they would be back out. Cool. Ok, so yesterday I get home and there's a new 3rd pole where its supposed to be.. the two old poles are STILL there, and they didn't move any of the wires to the new pole yet.. and of course, the new pole is set back about a foot from the old poles, so they can't just hook the wires and yank the old poles.. they have to let the wires dangle while removing the old poles. Gotta wonder sometimes.

One good thing is that the insulation guys showed up this morning to blow insulation into the walls on the old part of the house. Hopefully this doesnt turn into a clusterfuck of epic proportions like the telephone pole

[Cryptic1911]

nothing new on the "build", but we did get a bunch of FREE storage cabinets and assorted other things today:

2x 5'x2' wooden workbenches with countertops
3x 4 level storage cabinets 42 & 36"
1x 36" stand up storage cabinet
1x 2 drawer cabinet
2x stools
6x 3'x18" plastic bin hanging sheets
~30 "akrobin"plastic bins
10ft ladder
1000' box of cat6 cable
1000' box of belden rg6 cable
rackmount ups

[onewaydave]

Now, this is what I call a home improvement project!

[Cryptic1911]

not a ton happening lately.. things are slowing down since we have to wait for other people.. CL&P FINALLY removed the two old telephone poles and moved everything to the new pole, so we were able to put in the trench and the conduit for the electrical service. Also got a bunch more bins to hang on the wall.. have a total of 19 large yellow, 28 medium blue, and 73 small reds







and here's the bins.. they are all wrapped in plastic and stuff, but there's a ton of them

[Motown 454]

You can never have too much storage.

[Cryptic1911]

We had some schedule 30 & 40 pipe delivered, and the guys came back out to fill in the trench for the conduit, then dig a new one over the top of that to accomodate the drainage:

[volkyrican]

Nice build, well documented can't what to see the project complete.

[Cryptic1911]

Today they finished putting in the drain pipes, pulled the stump by the road, graded the front yard a bit, finished taking out the old driveway, and put down some stone so that we can drive into the garage.

Old driveway coming out:




New temp driveway- cement probably wont be til springtime or so



Drain pipe in the back going in:



Tamping down the stone in the driveway so we can drive on it:



YAAAAAAAAAAAAY



Sorta finished front yard and driveway from the street



From the garage:

[autoist]

'Zat gonna be the largest house in the neighborhood?

[Cryptic1911]

it was already.. all the other houses are small single story, this one was a small two story

[Cryptic1911]

We finally figured out what to do with the front of the house.. couldn't decide what to do since the old house was built below grade (to the road), and to make the future driveway usable, it would have been like 10" over the height of the foundation on the old house, so we decided to fill in the cellar windows, plastic the front, and then pour a walkway at the same height as the future driveway. This fixes the issue of the house being below grade on that side, gives us a step into the front, and will also make it a seamless transition when we put the driveway in. We'll put down flashing under the vinyl siding when we have that done to keep the ran out. Oh, and should have garage doors and openers on Wednesday... Keeping my fingers crossed, been a bit of a fiasco so far regarding that

[Motown 454]

It looks nice . It must feel good to get to use it.

[Cryptic1911]

sure the hell does!

[Cryptic1911]

Ordered a 56" wide top & bottom rolling tool chest tonight! We weren't quite looking to buy a toolbox since we need to finish other stuff on the house, but it was a hell of a deal.. $1299 shipped from www.qualitytoolsforless.com , Will post pics of it when it arrives in 2-3 weeks


Oh and the electricians were here earlier today and they got some of the electrical wires pulled, and the can lights in upstairs. Will try and remember to get some pics tomorrow

[pharmd]

Looks killer man! It must be something about garage doors that people can't get right...we are ordering our 4th different set tomorrow...1st set wrong size, 2nd set missed the truck for shippment, 3rd set wrong color, 4th set hopefully will be the charm...R value of 13, so with the HVAC it should stay toasty.

[Curt_pnw]

Originally Posted by pharmd

R value of 13, so with the HVAC it should stay toasty.

What company are you ordering the door from?


Cryptic, looks good man. Sure has come a long way.

[Cryptic1911]

Thanks, yeah its coming together.. a bit slower now, but its getting there.

not sure about his door, but myself, I'm getting two Hampsire series doors from General Door Company, and I think they are r16 or r17.. wanted to make sure all the heat wouldnt escape through the doors! I cant tell you how many garages I see with uninsulated doors... must be nice to just throw money away

[sharpshooter]

Update pics?

[Cryptic1911]

will see if I can get some of the electrical and the garage doors (if the guy finally shows up today). Other than that, not much going on at the moment

[Cryptic1911]

Took some pictures of the wiring upstairs today. Its not done yet, but they got the can lights up, and ran some wires around to some of the plugs. They still have to pull all the cat6 and rg6 wiring:

[Cryptic1911]

Got some pics of the data wiring upstairs today.

The little server cubby under the stairs:


Wiring in the ceiling, RG6 and Cat6. It looks like less wires in the picture for some reason:



One of the drops with 4x Cat6 and some RG6:

[Woffski]

Very nice build. What part of Connecticut are you in?.

[Cryptic1911]

in willimantic

[purpony]

looks good. Small world, im right down the street in Columbia.

[Cobra4B]

Nice build... subscribed.

[PoPo]

looks good man. when its all sided and done its going to be a real winner. You made the comment things get legs and walk away, well you need to FIX that first. If you don't have one get a dog and a gun. Use the dog first though.. lol

be safe and great thread build

[Cryptic1911]

Originally Posted by PoPo

looks good man. when its all sided and done its going to be a real winner. You made the comment things get legs and walk away, well you need to FIX that first. If you don't have one get a dog and a gun. Use the dog first though.. lol

be safe and great thread build

got that covered.. have a 130lb rottie and enough guns and ammo to survive a zombie apocalypse

[Cobra4B]

Is that you in the first pics doing the demo work? If so, you don't look like the modded VW type

[Cryptic1911]

Originally Posted by Cobra4B

Is that you in the first pics doing the demo work? If so, you don't look like the modded VW type

actually, that's my father.. he's 62 and into modded vw's too.. has a 2007 jetta 2.5l 5cyl that has a custom turbo on it.. as of right now, its the only 2.5l 5cyl turbo jetta in the world.

thats how we roll.

[Cobra4B]

Haha... looks like the stereotypical hotrod/harley guy.

[Cryptic1911]

Originally Posted by Cobra4B

Haha... looks like the stereotypical hotrod/harley guy.

He is. got two custom bikes too

[KrisM]

Just got myself up to par with your build. Great work. I was surprised to see the CT plates when reading through. I'm located in manchester.

[Cryptic1911]

wow, small world.. got a few CT people on here!

[carlsondajj]

Great Build! We're looking to add on to our home this next year and I hope it looks as good as yours.

[Rich]

What a transformation...very nice. Looking forward to see how it ends up.

[rlme36]

Originally Posted by Cryptic1911

wow, small world.. got a few CT people on here!

Nice, build I especially like the use of space and the design to fit the property. Not to mention seeing some nice VW's. Seeing the corrado in one of the posts brings back some great memories and I am also in CT. Like you I am also in the middle of a build.

rob

[Cryptic1911]

have you started a build thread for yours? the corrado wasn't mine, but I used to have one.. kinda miss it actually

[rlme36]

Originally Posted by Cryptic1911

have you started a build thread for yours? the corrado wasn't mine, but I used to have one.. kinda miss it actually

Yes, mine is started and I have posted on some of the progress, but haven't really updated lately. Not much has occurred besides the electric, floor and the garage doors are in. Took delivery of my prized cabinets recently and now need to get it insulated so I can heat it.

link if you are interested
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=36657

Yeah, every time I see one I still say its a good looking car.

[Cryptic1911]

Ah, looks nice man.. I saw the walls and was like damn, i thought mine was high! I'm at 12'9 to the rafters on mine, and I knew yours was going to be higher when I saw the stick walls up

[Cryptic1911]

Figured I'd slap this in here too- I got my International 56" top & bottom toolchest today w/ the extra 7 drawer side chest:

[CodeRedZ]

wowzers awesome work man

[RacerX]

That toolbox looks great. I ordered mine in Orange and see that it shipped today. How long from it shipping to you receiving it?? I'm in Houston, Tx.

[Cryptic1911]

I ordered it 12/12, then had them change the order 12/14 to include the 7 drawer side box. it shipped 12/18 from quebec, went to chicaco, and then it got hung up a bit over the holidays and stuff. It was in chicopee mass for a few days but the last transport company couldn't get out til today.. so, just under 3 weeks, and it says 2-3 weeks normally.

[Nealcrenshaw]

Lookin' good.

[Cryptic1911]

Havent posted anything in a while, but I have a quick pic of the doors on.. there's still a piece of the shipping plastic on the top panel hanging down.. gotta pull that off

[sam 8]

Very nice build.
There must be something going on in the garage door bizz; I had two snafus on mine 18 months ago, and it wound up being 2 months late.
Those pics of you and the new roll-a-way are priceles. Nothin' like a man and his tool box!

[Cryptic1911]

small update.. not really garage material, but its part of the addition. had a small porch added over the front of the house. going to tear off the peaked part on the connector and put a shorter (3ft) roof along that part as well



the middle posts look crooked in this pic, but they really are straight. just an optical illusion

[AndrewBigA]

wow thats not a garage! you build a second house lol.
waiting for more pics! looks great so far. how is the interior comming along? got pics of that please?

[M-technik-3]

Should have intercepted it while it was in Chicopee... Your homestead is coming along nicely.

[Cryptic1911]

nothing much going on inside, its going slow. just getting the wiring done a bit at a time, then we gotta get it inspected, then do the plumbing and get that inspected, then drywall. trying to just focus on getting the outside done first, then pick away at the inside as we have time and money lol

[Twelvizm]

Looks great! I'm excited to see what it looks like when it's all done.

Oh yeah, lower it!

[michakaveli]

Keep it coming! Great build

[cdrewferd]

Great looking place. Are you planning on redoing the outside of the house to match the amazing garage that's connected to it?

[AndrewBigA]

Originally Posted by Cryptic1911

nothing much going on inside, its going slow. just getting the wiring done a bit at a time, then we gotta get it inspected, then do the plumbing and get that inspected, then drywall. trying to just focus on getting the outside done first, then pick away at the inside as we have time and money lol

sounds fair enough lol. good luck with everything. im going to check in with this thread like many others of us will probably do =)

[Cryptic1911]

Originally Posted by cdrewferd

Great looking place. Are you planning on redoing the outside of the house to match the amazing garage that's connected to it?

yeah, its all getting sided. it actually had nice asbestos siding over the peeling wood siding thats there.. just had to strip it all off in anticipation of putting up vinyl.. couldnt nail through the asbestos stuff since it was almost like a ceramic and would break / buckle the vinyl if it slid down

with that said, siding is redicoulously expensive. just thought i'd throw that out there LOL

[Cryptic1911]

The overhang along the front got finished today, and they put the roof over the side garage door as well

[Phoenixfz]

Looks awesome!

Thanks for the updates.

[Mtl-Marc]

This is going to look great once done.

[Cryptic1911]

the shingles are done on the porch roof and the other overhangs



The electrical panel is getting inspected on Monday.. forgot to get a pic, but its a work of art

[gearbuilder]

Just found this thread today.....love your project, great job.

Jamie

[tman74]

Looks great!!!

[RoofDude]

What an awesome transformation. Great thread/build man..!

[Cryptic1911]

Thanks guys

Got some pictures of the electrical panel this morning:

[W.I.P.]

Awesome build! The place is looking great! The porch and the overhangs really added some character to the front.

[BC iron works]

nice where did you get the bin sheets

[Cryptic1911]

we got a bunch of stuff from my dads office when they downsized the shop. the bins and sheets are from www.akro-mills.com

http://www.akro-mils.com/industrial/...play.asp?id=72

[ct96ek]

Looking great! I just bought a house in Manchester, CT with a detached 1+ saltbox style garage

[Cryptic1911]

An inspector OK'ed the electrical panel today, so I guess we're good to go for a meter & underground hookup from CL&P

[carlsondajj]

Wow, that panel looks great!! As a former Naval Electrician, I can appreciate good wiring. I can also tell when the electrician is a little OCD...which is a good thing in this case.

[premierplayer]

I could straighten that box out if it's really bothering you...

Really, everything looks great, excellent project.
Thanks for sharing, and keep it coming.

[Cryptic1911]

Yay, they put in our electric meter today and energized the line. Just need to put in some recepticals so we can fire up some lights temporarily until we do sheetrock and permanently hang them

[KingConstruction]

I like how nice and clean the electrical panel wiring looks

[PhillyRow]

Wow...nice build and sick cars...every mans dream. Keep it up!

[walsher]

Great job. Looking forward to seeing the finised product as I am sure you are too.

[Cryptic1911]

yeah, definately am. should be doing siding mid april

[Justanoldguy]

Nice build.
Pity the connector and the old roof didn't intersect on the same line.
Looks kinda odd in that last pic. post 157

[Cryptic1911]

We did the heights slightly different so that it would break up the roof. Would have looked odd if it was the same height being bent at such an angle. Its centered though, just slightly shorter, and the walls are set back 18" from the outer edge of the original house. I think its more the picture than it really being odd.. just an optical illusion from the angles

[Grizz1963]

Just read the whole thread, and this looks great.

30x30 will be just right.

[bigblue02hd]

Wow... nice transformation!!! Looks great....

[Cryptic1911]

Thanks guys. Not too much going on at the moment other than the electrician installed the wire to backfeed the panel in the old part of the house, so we're cut from the hanging line and using all underground now. Still have to do the same to the panel on the old garage though

[Shaggie]

Hi there from NZ, Cryptic1911

My first post - I've just read your thread from start to finish. When you first described the addition i have to say i thought geez won't that overpower the house....good on you for getting it right though - the place looks fantastic! I thought it looked like a New England setting having visited friends in ME twice.....looks great

Congrats again and best wishes

Shane

[Cryptic1911]

Thanks! I'll be posting pics up soon, they should be starting the siding in the next couple days, or early next week

[Cryptic1911]

Time for more updates.. siding is going up!

They came and trimmed the bottom of the old windowsills and then bumped out the side and top frame so that they stuck out past the foam boards they put up. Now the j-channels for the siding will have something to rest against, and the sills will get wrapped in aluminum. This way, the window sills on the old house are half the thickness that they were, and they are a closer match to the new installation windows in the addition:



The soffits under the overhangs:





Goin Green! :laugh:

[Cryptic1911]

The front door got replaced first this morning:







then he made a kickboard out of azek




The back door wasn't as easy. Didn't get too many pics of it, but he had to cut out under the door frame and rebuild some support.





This is the last pic we got of the back door.. putting down some kind of lead sheet that they silicone on top of, then slide the door frame into. Not sure what the lead is for




Here's some of the siding done on the front. They didnt do a ton on the siding today, just came and did j-channels around all the windows to get ready for it.

[Motown 454]

It looks great. It looks like he did a good job water proofing the bottom of the door.

[twostory]

Originally Posted by Cryptic1911

This is the last pic we got of the back door.. putting down some kind of lead sheet that they silicone on top of, then slide the door frame into. Not sure what the lead is for

The lead sheet is just a flashing, to make the water that gets under the door threshold go back outside. The lead is very easy to form & mold around corners. It is available at any roofing supply house.

[palestar]

Awesome build man, I'm really impressed!

I actually just moved to Lebanon over the weekend, just outside of Willmantic.. big VW nut as well, we'll have to hook up sometime.. Got a tornado red MK5 gti if you see it around town

Great work!

[Cryptic1911]

oh cool! are you on vwvortex.com? I remember gguitars from a post on there

[palestar]

Originally Posted by Cryptic1911

oh cool! are you on vwvortex.com? I remember gguitars from a post on there

yah my name is rawk on vortex, i'm in withdrawl with vortex down right now

what kind of lift did you plan in putting in the garage? I'm trying to figure out if I can raise the ceiling in my barn/garage to fit a 2-post lift

[Cryptic1911]

Well it started out as a bendpak 2 post, then we changed our minds and figured we would do a bendpak 4post so we could do our alignments. I ended up finding a place that can do alignments on our cars so we don't need a 4 post for that anymore, but I think we'll end up with a 4 post anyways.. just so its easier to get up in the air. Won't have to worry about getting the arms in the right spot.

Whats your ceiling height now?

[Cryptic1911]

They got a little more done on the front, and some trim wrapped in aluminum

[Titus]

Looking great!

[Adam@theHoffmanGroup]

This is great! gives me hope on my meager project!

[Curt_pnw]

Looking good man! It's come a long way!

[cdrewferd]

That place is looking great. The green color actually looks really good.

[Interex]

Amazing transformation!

[Cryptic1911]

Thanks guys.. yeah its looking pretty damn nice now. Cant wait til its complete though with new gutters and all that. The gables are getting done in vinyl shakes that are green as well. It'll help break up the ends a little.

[Cryptic1911]

Here's what the shakes look like on the gable ends





They are still finishing up some of the aluminum trim pieces and stuff, but the shakes are also going on the two ends up high where it still has tyvek exposed

[Red05GT]

Great choice on breaking up the siding with the shakes. Really nice tie in of old and
new construction. Looks as though it was all built at the same time.

[Cryptic1911]

yeah, I really like how it came out so far.. the only thing that really annoys me is the fact that the original house had no overhangs (wtf were they thinking?). The roof was re-done like 8 years ago and is in great shape, otherwise we probably would have re-done the roof and had overhangs added so it matches. I didn't want to patch anything in because the shingles wouldn't match

[00si2]

I just read through the whole build but didn't see anything about the second floor ceiling heights. Whats the height at the wall and the height at the highest point.

I'm building something very similar for the garage portion only. 12ft garage ceiling and 8ft 2nd floor ceiling. I have been worrying about it looking to big but after seeing yours i think it will look great.

[Cryptic1911]

Its like 7.5ft at the wall and like 11ft in the center. The roof trusses inside are like a 3/12? pitch I think

[PERFORMANCE-RED]

You did all this great work and didn't have central AC put in?

[Cryptic1911]

not any easy way to run it in the old side of the house, but i plan to put a ductless split over the garage since its all open up there. the old part may get a couple small ones at some point

[jwhcars]

Originally Posted by PERFORMANCE-RED

You did all this great work and didn't have central AC put in?

He lives in New England and those tough people do not need air conditioning

[palestar]

looking really good man! you must be excited to have so much space to work with

[Cryptic1911]

Yeah, I cant wait til its all done so I can finally work in there with lights and drywall!

Forgot to update the thread.. Siding is all done now, and all the trim was wrapped in aluminum

[Titus]

Looks great! I am sure all of your neighbors are jealous.

[palestar]

awesome man, looks like its almost done

ran into your jetta on the road yesterday like the 2-tone! are there good vw gtg's around here?

[Cryptic1911]

actually thats my dads jetta. as far as gtg's, there was one at dunkin donuts in coventry, and one at a pizza place.. its the same gtg as far as i know, they just alternate weeks. i've never gone, but its the only one real close by that i know of

[Motown 454]

The addition looks great.

[Cryptic1911]

Got some gutters installed today. They are seamless and have 3"x4" downspouts. Unfortunately when we did the addition, we didn't plan to have the porch roofs at all, so when we put in the slab /walkway, we had an 18"? drain put into the one corner, and we pitched the slab to it. Turns out we covered the whole slab with a roof, so now the gutters have to go over the short roof, then back under to get to the drain. We will probably dig a trench and run the downspout that is on the porch roof itself underground. For right now, it just has like a 4ft section that will dump into the yard. The downspout on the left end of the garage, and the ones in the back all go into the drain pipes that we installed around the back that feed into the city's tile drain, then out into the swamp which is on the other side of the hill

[Kevin54]

Great looking transformation. It must have seemed like a long road to get to where it is now.

[Cryptic1911]

yeah, its taken a while to get this far.. about 11 months so far, with work off and on. just gotta finish up the inside now

[sooperdave]

congrats on the build and thanks for sharing! how are using the upper and lower "connector" space, its looks like some good space.

[TejasBimmer]

GREAT HOME MAKE OVER!!!!

However, I did notice something wrong.
In the photo, the electrician notched the stud to add the conduit.
However, he did not add a metal strap that would bridge the cut ends.
I know it is code here in Texas... did he forget to do that in your place?

Originally Posted by Cryptic1911

[Leeroy254]

Wow just went through the whole thread. What a transformation!

[Cryptic1911]

Originally Posted by sooperdave

congrats on the build and thanks for sharing! how are using the upper and lower "connector" space, its looks like some good space.

well, the downstairs has a bit of room.. the back half is going to be a laundry room with a toilet. the upstairs doesnt have much usable space.. maybe just some for shelving or something, but the two sets of stairs take up most of it.

Originally Posted by TejasBimmer

GREAT HOME MAKE OVER!!!!

However, I did notice something wrong.
In the photo, the electrician notched the stud to add the conduit.
However, he did not add a metal strap that would bridge the cut ends.
I know it is code here in Texas... did he forget to do that in your place?

Its not notched alot, maybe an inch? but the walls are 2x6, so its not really compromised at all. As far as code, I don't think it is here.. this guy does commercial work, and the inspector didn't have any issue with it being done like that.

Originally Posted by Leeroy254

Wow just went through the whole thread. What a transformation!

thanks I've gone through pages and pages of other peoples builds, so its neat to actually have one of my own just can't wait til its all done on the inside!

[Undecided]

Nice build man. Awaiting the inside of the garage pics when you get the lift and everything else in there!

Only thing I wanna know is why the stock wheels are back on the jetta?! Those audi wheels looked real nice on it

[DonkeyDon]

I've heard that the metal plate is for protecting Non metallic cable, like Romex (to prevent nails being driven into it after drywall is added).

I'd imagine metal conduit is protection enough. But I'm not a electrician..nor do I play one on TV

[Cryptic1911]

Originally Posted by Undecided

Nice build man. Awaiting the inside of the garage pics when you get the lift and everything else in there!

Only thing I wanna know is why the stock wheels are back on the jetta?! Those audi wheels looked real nice on it

Winter wheels. havent put the summer's on either car yet.. garage has been full of siding and stuff, and just really didn't want to do it out in the street. I was going to do them today, but its nasty and humid outside

[M-technik-3]

Looking mighty fine. Neighbors are probably bummed as you just out classes em all with improvements.

[John R.]

Originally Posted by DonkeyDon

I've heard that the metal plate is for protecting Non metallic cable, like Romex (to prevent nails being driven into it after drywall is added).

I'd imagine metal conduit is protection enough. But I'm not a electrician..nor do I play one on TV

Now that's useful piece of information that I'm going to tuck away for my build. Thank you.

[usa89gt]

Absolutely awesome!!!

[Cryptic1911]

Thanks guys.. unfortunately I don't have any new pics to add. Haven't done anything inside lately, but we've got a bunch of pex tubing and fittings to do the plumbing sometime soon

[Cryptic1911]

Not much to update, still sticks and wires inside, but we did start a little on the plumbing

[Corsario]

Very nice construction! Love the vw too! My first car was a vw. Keep the good work!
Take care
Corsario from Argentina