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Old 09-12-2009, 08:07 PM   #1
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Default NEW build 36 x 50 garage (hot rod shop)

****Updates Weekly stay tuned****
Started work on my 36 x 50 barn to be used as a garage. The barn will have 12 foot ceilings on the main level. and a second floor that is 30x50 with a full dormer off the back the 2nd level will have 9 foot ceilings. the floor will be a 5 inch thick slab with radiant heat ran through it. Off the front of the barn will be a 12 foot lean too to be used as a front porch and a place for the grill.

Build in progress

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the Amish are building my barn.
here they are squaring things up





Footing and foundation are in 6 courses of block, 5 in ground one above







check back next week for the progress
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Old 09-12-2009, 11:19 PM   #2
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I can't wait for next week!!

How tall total is the place going to be, or did I miss that?

I'm thinking 12' feet downstairs and 9' tall upstairs would be a total of 21 'livable' but, with gables or pitch where does that put you???

Again, can't wait for next week!!
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Old 09-13-2009, 06:31 AM   #3
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Looking good

Did the Amish drive to 'hoe? All of the Amish around here will have drivers to get to the place they are working, but won't hesitate to jump on a piece of equipment We had one in our area that went as far as buying all of his own equipment, trucks, 'hoes, skidloaders, etc. The Amish sect finally kicked him to the curb. As soon as they did, you'd see him driving down the road in a brand new 1 ton dually. Then his wife started doing income tax returns and one of the boys started selling cars (small car lot) at the house.
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Old 09-13-2009, 02:40 PM   #4
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so,...what are you putting IN the hot rod shop?
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Old 09-13-2009, 02:55 PM   #5
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Jason.. the roof pitch is going to be 10/12 I like a steep pitch for that old barn look.

Doc.... the garage will house my 34 ford pickup (my profile pic), my 30 ford roadster on deuce rails, my 60 falcon 2 door gasser, and my bonneville belly tank build im starting powered by a full race flathead model A 4-banger
and my 67 triumph bobber

shop will also house my tools too, stuff like my... Bridgeport mill, metal lathe, Tig & MIG welders, tubing bender, drill press, gantry, power hammer and much more... wood working shop and storage upstairs via a 4 foot wide staircase
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Old 09-14-2009, 05:14 PM   #6
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Well early update.....
We found a dry well in my back yard
and well we found it the hard way....may have totaled a new truck

here is the aftermath









I think the frame is bent

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Old 09-14-2009, 05:47 PM   #7
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Well early update.....
We found a dry well in my back yard
and well we found it the hard way....may have totaled a new truck

here is the aftermath

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I think the frame is bent

**Stay tuned**
Most definitely looks like it ruined that frame

Looks like this that happened the other day



Hopefully they have enough insurance to cover accidents like that. Although it is going to be expensive, the cab is good, bed is still good and all the hydraulics will probably be good as the bed was in a lowered position, the components could be put on another frame. Not everyday you have to total out a dumptruck
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Old 09-14-2009, 05:57 PM   #8
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now that is crazy. What did it look like after you got it out? I wonder if they can bend the frame back without totalling the truck, if it its pretty hard to do on equipment/trucks like that.
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Old 09-14-2009, 06:00 PM   #9
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thanks for the update!

I'm SO sorry to hear about that - I can only imagine the stress it caused you (and the owner)!
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:29 PM   #10
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I'd be very surprised if that's totalled. Those frames are designed to twist to a certain extent. If it twisted enough to kink one of the rails that's another story. Just doesn't look that bad, but let us know, that's pretty nuts!

And good luck with the build - it looks awesome to far!
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Old 09-15-2009, 02:03 PM   #11
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What is a "dry well" ?

and what causes them?
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Old 09-15-2009, 04:25 PM   #12
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I'm subscribed to the thread. Sounds like a good plan is in place.
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Old 09-15-2009, 07:17 PM   #13
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It is for drainage. Basically a smaller dry well could be a huge hole in the ground, back filled with different things such as gravel/corse rocks/anything, and then dirt/sod on top.

You pipe drainage from your home/buildings to it. It keeps it from backing up in the yard and making a swamp.

Tough enough to walk on or use as part of your yard. But when you put something heavy on it, this occurs.


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Old 09-16-2009, 08:11 AM   #14
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wow tuff break
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Old 09-16-2009, 12:06 PM   #15
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Would that be covered under your homeowner's insurance?
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Old 09-20-2009, 10:29 AM   #16
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Busy weekend my dad and I laid all the under-slab insulation (The Barrier) which is 3 mil plastic then polly-foam insulation and then another 3 mil of plastic. there is a plastic flap on one side with self stick adhesive to bond it to the next row, this is a great vapor barrier. the insulation and reinforcing mesh took us 3 hours to put down. the 7 loops (250 ft length each) on the other hand took us 7 hours to complete.

I welded up a stand out of angle iron to hold my manifolds in place.
the whole system was pressure checked at 60psi over night and hasent lost a pound, so it looks like we are good to poor the slab (monday or tuesday)

good news the truck that fell in the dry well is ok. needed new hood laches they broke from the twisting and one hydraulic line got punctured.

the dry well took about 14 cu yards of gravel to fill it was about 10ft deep.













my next door neighbor is not very happy with me. Because i did not want to knock down my existing 16x24 garage to build a driveway to my new garage
instead i pulled out the shrubs alongside my garage and his yard and built myself a new driveway. I love PA only 12 ft offset on outbuildings and you can build right on your property line if you get a variance in my town. (some of my new driveway might even be on my neighbors yard) if hes still upset when its done he will just have to get his yard surveyed lol

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Old 09-20-2009, 05:41 PM   #17
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looks good what part of pa do you live???
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Old 09-20-2009, 06:29 PM   #18
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Im all the way north 5 min from the NY border and just about center from east to west
if that makes sense
or I can just say im about 20 min below corning NY
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I'm excited to see some Amish craftsmanship!

Aren't you concerned about that driveway issue, though? If your neighbor DOES get a survey later and you are on his side, your new driveway might be in jeopardy.
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Old 09-20-2009, 07:34 PM   #20
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not to concerned with the driveway issue. If it is overstepping my line I'll fix it there is one survey pole but no second one to make a line so i guessed if its over it wont be more then 6 or 8 inches max. I think his wife had an issue.. because today he said everything was looking good.
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