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Old 11-10-2009, 07:28 PM   #1
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Default How to keep from falling off metal roof?

Looking for suggestions for staying put on the roof while I trim the tin after installation. Roof pitch is roughly 4/12. If this were a shingled roof, I would go up there with few issues - I do go up on my shop roof which is about the same pitch - but being metal, I'm worried about smooth, slippery metal and the resulting lack of traction leading to me taking a header off the backside.

I've got a 5pt harness I use in my tree stands (why I hunt from tree stands when I'm utterly useless with heights is beyond me...) that I was thinking of attaching to a length of rope that's been tied off to the front beam and thrown over the top edge of the roof. Attach the rope to the harness once I step on the roof so that the rope keeps me from going over the edge. Or, have a buddy reel in the rope as I climb and tie it off to a post once I'm in position.

Or maybe I'm overthinking all this... I just don't want to slide off and kill myself so I'm looking to work safe and smart.
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Old 11-10-2009, 07:44 PM   #2
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Default Re: How to keep from falling off metal roof?

good shoes that will grab or grip the material. something with a 'rubbery sole'

throw a rope over the roof and tie off at one end and tie yourself to the other so you cant fall off

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Old 11-10-2009, 07:46 PM   #3
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If your roof is metal panels with protruding screws you can just hook your soft soled shoes on the screws, thats what I did on a 4/12 pitch if its standing seam however....
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Old 11-10-2009, 07:53 PM   #4
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Simple.....Don't get up there

Sorry, im afriad of hights so i gotta poke fun at those who have the nuts to deal with them. Good luck, be safe
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Old 11-10-2009, 07:56 PM   #5
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Default Re: How to keep from falling off metal roof?

Your basic idea of a rope over the top to belay with is good. Get one of these Petzl Basic Rope Clamps available for between $40-$60 for your rope:
http://www.travelcountry.com/shop/cl...ope-clamp.html
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Old 11-10-2009, 08:14 PM   #6
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Hmmm .. my neighbour is a tower climber. He took a video while up a 300' tower... "There's the village over there where the signal comes from, over here is home..." Crazy stuff. He might have one of those clamps though.

I'd really prefer not to go up there, but, with few exceptions, I'm hesitant to ask a friend to do a job I'd not do myself (abilities notwithstanding). I want to at least make an attempt at it.
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Old 11-10-2009, 08:31 PM   #7
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Looking for suggestions for staying put on the roof
Ok, I have your solution. I happen to be a self employed window cleaner and I deal with having to walk on metal roofs all the time.

You will be amazed at how well these things work. They are called Korkers. They work even if the roof is wet.

There are a few different kinds of them. Some have cleats kind of like golf shoes that are used for cedar roofs.

The ones you want for a metal roof have foam that velcros to the bottom. These are basically rubber sandels that you strap onto the bottom of your shoes. They cost around $75 for a pair. Here is a link to a site I just found that supplies them at a good price: http://www.cwcsupplyusa.com/korkersconvertible3in1.aspx
Or just do a search on KORKERS

Two words of caution:

They work fine as long as the foam is clean but need to be washed off once in a while so they don't start slipping again.

It's still not a bad idea to tie off to something if you can as others have said here. As a window cleaner I seldom do for time savings.

Lastly, I am planning to build a building starting 2010. I plan the lowest pitch I can because even with these korkers a metal roof is intimidating to say the least.

But give these a shot. They are well worth the cash.

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Old 11-11-2009, 12:49 PM   #8
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I too hate heights! However I have walked on my metal roof w/o any slipping
with just tennis shoes. I am very cautious when on any roof.
Never will I go up there when wet.
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Old 11-11-2009, 02:31 PM   #9
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You already own the harness, definitely tie yourself off! Sliding down a few times will really try your nerves and make you useless while trying to finish your task. Grippy shoes, dry roof all help.
Or you can use the new self magenetizing clothing they have on that new TV show where they are traveling to Mars.
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Old 11-11-2009, 04:07 PM   #10
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Make sure your tie-off is not the bumper of a moveable vehicle.
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Old 11-11-2009, 04:14 PM   #11
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Make sure your tie-off is not the bumper of a moveable vehicle.


Tying off to something on the other side worked well when i went up on my roof. You may want something on the roof ridge to keep you from denting it/scraping the granules off the asphalt. I dented my ridge vent doing it. A good carbiner will allow you to take up the slack as needed for a more reassuring feel.
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Old 11-11-2009, 04:15 PM   #12
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Wear your harness and loop your tie off so you can adjust the slack (kind of like a pulley) and wear a pair of chuck taylors on a warm day.
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Old 11-11-2009, 05:02 PM   #13
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Default Re: How to keep from falling off metal roof?

You already have your solution:

Harness and tie it off on the other side. Be careful to use low stretch rope or tie it off a couple feet short of the edge.

That's literally a lifesaver....
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Old 11-11-2009, 05:18 PM   #14
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I have been on my 8/12 pitch metal roof with just very good tennis shoes. The screw heads do a good job of holding you. I wasn't trying to stay in one place though. I just needed to get to the ridge to install the ridge vent. Once up there I could straddle it and sit down. 4/12 really isn't that much pitch if the roof is clean and dry. If you are uncomfortable use the rope.

P.S. The hint about not tying off to a car is real. My old boss had this happen to his cousin. Wife came out, jumped in his truck and headed to town. Fortunately he wasn't hurt very badly. Broken arm I think. He forgot she had a set of keys, his were in his pocket. If you decide to tie off to a car, disable it.
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Old 11-11-2009, 07:04 PM   #15
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I don't have any good advice for you, but it's nice to know I'm not the only chickenshit on the forum when it comes to heights!
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Default Re: How to keep from falling off metal roof?

beucase of my stupid trough gutters and trees im on my slate roof all the time. after one close call,(those stupid gutters are about 3ft wide and i was hanging over the side of the house 30' up, but i wasnt on the ground) i got a tie out mount. its essiantally a heavy hinge with a loop attached to it.

i dont mind heights though, i rock climb and rappel as well so i have the right kind of equipment once i got a torso harness.

what you want is a good mount to tie off to, a good harness, good static robe(does not stretch much) and an ascender like - http://www.rei.com/product/782459 . as you move higher up the roof you pull the rope through the ascender and when you go to get down you press the trigger and pull the rope out, but if you fall it will hold to rope.

just tying off is bad. if you do fall, and no one is around how are you gonna get down? hmmm?
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That ascender is better than the one I pointed out before.

Let's see, to get down...
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Wear golf shoes. Problem solved.

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I was amazed at how far I could actually dig my fingernails into the metal when sliding towards the edge.

The crew that put my roof on climbed up the ladder with work boots on then changed to
their roofing shoes at the edge and back again before they would climb down. I never did get a close look at them.
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4/12 as long as it's dry, tennis shoes will do just fine.
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