Tile deal!

[n2hcky]

First off.........I am not affiliated with any vendor or such.
I have been watching the board over the last few months during my build if my 30x52 detached garage.
I will post some pics as I get closer to completion.
But I thought I would post this since I had been researching my floor.
I was going to do epoxy-coat then I got to thinking how much prep work there was even on new concrete and had always liked the idea of interlocking tile. I have seen racedeck.......played hockey on sportcourt.....so I know the roots of Daytona tile. I figured somewhere somehow there had to be overruns or design changes on theses type of tile.............well there was.
Dynotile changed designs/molds and I am not sure how much they have, but I just ordered enough "+a little extra" to do my 1560 s/f for $1 a tile.
I know......no warranty.....no returns....but it was a high qaulity product to begin with so I figured I would take a chance at that price. That only made it 2x the cost of the epoxy-coat with no prep work and no 3-7 day drying time.
Hope this can help out anyone else willing to take a chance.
I will post again as soon as I know more.

oops........forgot to tell where I found it.
http://www.floortilecloseout.com/

[volvo]

Thank You, thats an idea I never thought of for flooring. COOL They are not "factory seconds" or "color blems". Just outdated.


I did buy some seconds on turf once .05 cents a sq ft. compared to $2.25 at the time...H

[BoCRon]

Thanks for the headsup. I used Daytona in my garage but am planning on using Dynotile on my covered porch.
Hopefully they will have what I'm looking for!
Annette

[n2hcky]

Originally Posted by BoCRon

Thanks for the headsup. I used Daytona in my garage but am planning on using Dynotile on my covered porch.
Hopefully they will have what I'm looking for!
Annette

The only thing they showed to be out of when I ordered was the beige/tan.
I went with the stone and silver to do a checker pattern.....either 2x2 or 3x3. I think a 1x1 pattern in a space as big as mine would be way too busy.

[speadrider]

Have you actually seen the DYNOTILE? it is really flimsy and cheap looking china product. I would get a sample and I would be even more cautious about a company that sells a product with absolutely no returns or warranty. I looked at a lot of the tiles and ended up with Racedeck, they really responded fast, sent me a free sample and made me a pretty good deal.

[speadrider]

You may want to also look at Costco, they have a garage floor tile. I have not seen it, but Costco usually carries good products and they have a great return policy if you are unhappy with their products for any reason.

[BoCRon]

speadrider, I think you may have the Dynotile confused with one of the others. I have samples from about 7 different tile companies and the Dynotile was one of the sturdiest. The Bigfoot plastic and the Fast Floor were pretty thin, but the Dynotile was much thicker and didn't shatter with the hammer blow like some of the others.
Annette

[skullhead]

This looks too good to be true but I ordered some samples. I'll let you know what I think when they come in. And if anyone wants I can post some pics if your interested.

[Burner]

Sorry BoCron, I have to disagree with you about Dynotile it is definetly one of the thinest products out there. I have samples of many of the different tiles so I do know what I am saying. It is also very flimsy and soft, you're about it not shattering when you hit it with a hammer but that's because it is so soft! It also scratches very easy and on the dark color tiles the scratches turn the white!! On the positive side it is ineteresting with it's overlaping seam, I think it would be great for light duty use or in areas where you might be walking around with no shoes on. So for your deck it may be good, but not in a garage or you would be replacing it alot sooner than you think.

[speadrider]

I agree with Burner about BoCron's comments about Dyno tile. I too looked at a lot of samples and heard all the sales pitches prior to eventually going with Race Deck, based on looks, and durability. The common point I heard was that a soft tile in the garage will expand and contract dramatically with temperature swings, causing severe buckling. I have two samples of Dyno tile that are beige and both colors do not match.

[BoCRon]

This makes me wonder if there was a manufacturing change along the way. I have been collecting tile samples for at least 5 years (we started with the Locktile in our basement way before we got thinking about the garage). The Dynotile sample I have is one of the earlier samples I collected so maybe I have one that is different??
DH and I went through the sample box the other day (he wants to get started on flooring for his woodworking shop) and had the same overall impressions.
Tuffseal would still be the first choice but he really doesn't want to spend that much on his woodworking shop floor.
I will probably still order the Dynotile for my covered deck since I only need about 220 tiles I can do the whole thing for less than $250.00. We are hoping to enclose the deck in the future, so the flooring would be replaced at that point anyway, so if I can get a couple of years use for $250.00 that would be fine. Also, my plan is to do a completely random pattern using at least 5 colors, so I'm not concerned about color matching for that.
Annette

[GTrain]

Originally Posted by speadrider

The common point I heard was that a soft tile in the garage will expand and contract dramatically with temperature swings, causing severe buckling. I have two samples of Dyno tile that are beige and both colors do not match.

In my last home, I did a racedeck floor and really liked it. It was in Phoenix, and the racedeck tile will buckle and expand in heat. It was pretty pronounced in direct sunlight, but even in cooler temps, direct sun would buckle them. When I sold the house, the garage floor stayed as the new owners made it a must....

In my current home, I have been looking to finish my floor again....but racedeck is still double some of the others and I was trying to find a more cost effective tile....its over 1K sqft.

If racedeck buckles, I can't imagine how bad it is with thinner tiles...

[jskco]

We sold Dynotile a long long time ago. The reason it was on clearance is because of the issues they are having with it. According to their clearance website http://www.floortilecloseout.com/?gc...FSj0Igod4BX8GA it can do a whole bunch of things you would not want your tile to do.

Terms of Sale:

Tiles are $1 per tile and must be purchased in 25 piece boxes per color.
Sample tile 2-packs are available for an $8 charge. Specify colors when ordering.
Edging is sold in 10 packs at a cost of $5 per pack of 10. Male and female edges are available. Female edges are usually used across garage doors.
Corners are available free of charge with tile orders. 4 corners per 100 tiles.
The shipping cost is only $5 per case of 25 tiles provided it is in the continental US. Unusual delivery requests may result in additional charges. We will contact you before shipment if there are any additional charges.
Orders will be shipped within 2 business days of receipt via ground freight. Total time to your door after order should be between 3-8 days.
All sales are final
No warranty
No returns

Potential issues with these tiles:

Expansion and contraction: Plastic tiles expand and contract with temperature change. This can be exaggerated with exposure to direct sunlight. As a result the floor may rise during expansion. Tiles usually return to original flatness after exposure to sun is eliminated.
Compression from large vehicles in warm climates: Some vehicles can compress the tiles and create a raised portion in front of the tires when they drive on the tiles.
Sizing: These closeout tiles can have size disrecpancies of up to 1 millimeter and can cause problems if trying to attach long rows of different colors together. Solid colors and checker patterns seem to work fine.
Other issues: Other issues may exist.


Raised portions due to expansion from the direct sunlight. Tiles return to original form when removed from sunlight. It is reccomended that tiles are not placed in direct sunlight. Raised portion in front of tire due to compression by heavy vehicle in warm climate. Raised portions due to color size differential. Can be cured by using solid color or checkers.



You definitely do not want to use it outside. If you want to use Dynotile there are applications where it will work. Give Brad or Kurt at dynotile a call at 866-605-8700 and ask them if it will work on the job you are trying to do.

[speadrider]

Sounds pretty risky to me
Does not sound worth the hassle to me to try

[mblgjr]

Considering I'm in the South and like to work with my garage doors open it looks like all the plastic tiles have potential to buckle.

At the price RaceDeck charges, I'd be severely PO'd if it started waving at the doors.

Hmmm, back to Armstrong tile...

[speadrider]

mblgjr- I would call Race Deck and see if there is a dealer near you, they have a no risk trial period on their floors. I specifically asked them what their policy was when I first called as I had some similar concerns too.

[NickPrime]

Originally Posted by n2hcky

First off.........I am not affiliated with any vendor or such.
I have been watching the board over the last few months during my build if my 30x52 detached garage.
I will post some pics as I get closer to completion.
But I thought I would post this since I had been researching my floor.
I was going to do epoxy-coat then I got to thinking how much prep work there was even on new concrete and had always liked the idea of interlocking tile. I have seen racedeck.......played hockey on sportcourt.....so I know the roots of Daytona tile. I figured somewhere somehow there had to be overruns or design changes on theses type of tile.............well there was.
Dynotile changed designs/molds and I am not sure how much they have, but I just ordered enough "+a little extra" to do my 1560 s/f for $1 a tile.
I know......no warranty.....no returns....but it was a high qaulity product to begin with so I figured I would take a chance at that price. That only made it 2x the cost of the epoxy-coat with no prep work and no 3-7 day drying time.
Hope this can help out anyone else willing to take a chance.
I will post again as soon as I know more.

oops........forgot to tell where I found it.
http://www.floortilecloseout.com/

Sounds kool, but what about the listed issued:

Potential issues with these tiles:

Expansion and contraction: Plastic tiles expand and contract with temperature change. This can be exaggerated with exposure to direct sunlight. As a result the floor may rise during expansion. Tiles usually return to original flatness after exposure to sun is eliminated.
Compression from large vehicles in warm climates: Some vehicles can compress the tiles and create a raised portion in front of the tires when they drive on the tiles.
Sizing: These closeout tiles can have size disrecpancies of up to 1 millimeter and can cause problems if trying to attach long rows of different colors together. Solid colors and checker patterns seem to work fine.

Is this the reason for the change? Will it become a nightmare in the future? Then you will be Potential issues with these tiles:

[n2hcky]

Originally Posted by NickPrime

Sounds kool, but what about the listed issued:


Is this the reason for the change? Will it become a nightmare in the future? Then you will be Potential issues with these tiles:

I don't know all the answers.
I did get the samples.........looks good to me. I have not got my floor done yet but I did put together a few tile here at work and they laid out fine. 2 mixed colors in checkerboard..........."which is the idea for my floor anyway".....from the website that is 1 way of avoiding 1 of the potential problems.
I parked 1 of our smaller lift trucks on the patch of tile for about 1/2 day. no compression or buckling......it was not hot so that might change things.
I not saying this is everyones floor solution but I just thought I would throw it out there since I found it.

[nvrlift]

Well, I have wanted to try out a tile floor like this for some time, but the $3-$4 per square foot kept it on my list of things to do, versus getting on the list of things I have done. That changed last week with $1 per tile here.

I live near Dynotile here in Washington, so I sent them an email asking some pointed questions about these closeout tiles (heat, buckling, patterns, etc.). They answered them promptly, and I stopped by that day to pick up tiles to do my floor (saved on shipping costs as well!)

After spending the last few days installing them (it was a bigger project than I had thought since it was just me, and I had a lot of cuts, and moving things around at least once from side to side) I learned a few things about these tiles.

- Some colors have a better "fit" than others. They all fit together fine, but some colors just feel right and snap right in, with a little wiggle/expansion room. Some other colors are very tight, and I can see how in hot weather/sun it could be an issue perhaps.
- I am not sure that a checkered or solid color would do better/worse than another pattern (say my pattern for example). I can see that long rows of different colors would be an issue, but short patterns or runs seem like they would be the same as a full checker or solid pattern (depending on the color you did)
- Dark colors do scratch pretty easily
- The tile seams are fully waterproof -- in fact water just puddles across seams like they are not there -- and another thing, since the floor acts like an insualtor, the water does not evaporate/absorb back into the concrete like before -- I used to sweep the puddles out of the garage, and 15 minutes later it was basically dry. Now I sweep the puddles, and I get smaller puddles and drops of water that are still there hours later. hard to explain, but a difference I noticed.
- My garage does not get direct sun almost ever, and I tend to not leave the garage doors open for long periods anytime of year. I am hoping that the Seattle mild weather will work in my favor, but I know that these tiles could buckle a little bit -- that is the risk I was willing to take at $1 per tile.
- The tiles completely change the look and feel of the garage -- my favorite garage mod so far!

Here are my pics of the floor:

[rickas]

NVRLIFT
That looks good . Your design shows talent & imagination. I may need to invest $8.00 in samples.