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Old 04-14-2007, 05:07 PM   #1
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Default Where can I get 90W gear oil?

For my 4Runner.

No auto parts stores have it.
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Old 04-14-2007, 05:45 PM   #2
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Default Re: Where can I get 90W gear oil?

Amsoil makes a 75w-90 & a 80w-90 but don't see a straight 90 weight. Does it have to be a straight weight or could it be one of these? My motorcycle calls for a 80w hypoid gear oil & I run 75w-90 synthetic in it, runs great & actually seems to shift quieter. Taking an IR temp reading after riding it runs cooler than what was in it before.
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Old 04-14-2007, 06:13 PM   #3
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Default Re: Where can I get 90W gear oil?

isnt 90w the same as sae 50
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Old 04-14-2007, 08:01 PM   #4
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Default Re: Where can I get 90W gear oil?

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isnt 90w the same as sae 50
Not sure.....
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Old 04-14-2007, 08:04 PM   #5
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Amsoil makes a 75w-90 & a 80w-90 but don't see a straight 90 weight. Does it have to be a straight weight or could it be one of these? My motorcycle calls for a 80w hypoid gear oil & I run 75w-90 synthetic in it, runs great & actually seems to shift quieter. Taking an IR temp reading after riding it runs cooler than what was in it before.
Shop manual says it requires SAE 80 above 0 degrees but could take SAE 80 or 80W-90 below 0 degrees. Not getting that cold around here anytime soon...I hope.
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Old 04-14-2007, 08:22 PM   #6
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Default Re: Where can I get 90W gear oil?

Call your local fuel/oil distributor. That's where we get ours.
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Old 04-14-2007, 08:39 PM   #7
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I buy alot of performance automotive products from AJUSA out of San Diego; no tax if shipped outside of Cali ... purchase some 90 W oil from them abut a year ago ...
http://www.ajusa.com/cgi-bin/stores/...1b0be599c51cdd
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Default Re: Where can I get 90W gear oil?

I would not put in 50w, that is 50 weight and you are looking for 90 weight.

My local auto parts store has it on the shelf, although most of them carry 85-90 or 80-85 or some variation of that, my local guy carries 90w.

Make sure you get EP or non-EP depending on what you need.

90 is pretty common I am surprised you can't find it. Try finding 1500w or 2300w oil for for a 1934 Singer steering gear, now that one was difficult but i did it. No those are not typos, that oil is so thick I swear its thicker than molasses.
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I would not put in 50w, that is 50 weight and you are looking for 90 weight.

My local auto parts store has it on the shelf, although most of them carry 85-90 or 80-85 or some variation of that, my local guy carries 90w.

Make sure you get EP or non-EP depending on what you need.

90 is pretty common I am surprised you can't find it. Try finding 1500w or 2300w oil for for a 1934 Singer steering gear, now that one was difficult but i did it. No those are not typos, that oil is so thick I swear its thicker than molasses.
EP? What's EP?

Auto parts stores around me suck, hence my problem.
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EP? What's EP?

Auto parts stores around me suck, hence my problem.
EP oils are fortified with Extreme Pressure additives.

Most gear oils will have this designation. 85w90 seems to be the most common replacement for straight 90 around here. I have used it for many years without issue.

If you want to find out more information about automotive lubrication than you ever knew existed, visit the BITOG forums...there are some very knowledgeable folks in there.
http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/ubbthreads.php

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I use it in my race car and get it from OG Racing in Dulles, VA. They have a web site. You can get the regular stuff, or use the Amsoil shockproof version which is for extreme duty applications.

The Amsoil shockproof oil is said to be so good that some racers are said to drain it out before a two-lap qualifier, then refill it for the race. That doesn't work for road racers like me, but the total distance fir a qualifying run in most oval racing is under a mile.

I've also used Mobil 1 90w.

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I use it in my race car and get it from OG Racing in Dulles, VA. They have a web site. You can get the regular stuff, or use the Amsoil shockproof version which is for extreme duty applications.

The Amsoil shockproof oil is said to be so good that some racers are said to drain it out before a two-lap qualifier, then refill it for the race. That doesn't work for road racers like me, but the total distance fir a qualifying run in most oval racing is under a mile.

I've also used Mobil 1 90w.

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I don't even see Mobil1 90W on their website, just this stuff (which I haven't seen in stores either):

http://www.mobil1.com/USA-English/Mo...us_80W-90.aspx

Why would they drain it out so soon? Seemes like a better oil should last longer than a run?

So you bought the Swepco 80/90? Is that the same thing as 90W??
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Old 04-15-2007, 11:10 AM   #13
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Default Re: Where can I get 90W gear oil?

no he's saying that it's that good because they can drain it and still run there qual laps. less resistance on the rotating mass of the engine and less weight alltogether.
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Old 04-15-2007, 12:14 PM   #14
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The only 90W gear oil that I know of right now is made by Castrol. It has EP additives that you should have for yor gear oil. You could also use a synthetic like REDLINE....
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Old 04-15-2007, 12:48 PM   #15
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Default Re: Where can I get 90W gear oil?

Not sure what year your 4Runner is, but I've been running 75W90 Synthetic in my '85 Toyota's transmission, t-case, and both differentials for 200K miles... The synthetic definitely improves shifting, especially when colder.
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I don't even see Mobil1 90W on their website, just this stuff (which I haven't seen in stores either):

http://www.mobil1.com/USA-English/Mo...us_80W-90.aspx

Why would they drain it out so soon? Seemes like a better oil should last longer than a run?

So you bought the Swepco 80/90? Is that the same thing as 90W??

I only got the Amsoil at OG. But you can get it anywhere, including plenty of local "distributors" who largely buy it for themselves and friends. You can get a list of these from the Amsoil website, I'd assume.

As mentioned above, draining the oil from the rear reduces drivetrain drag, and may gain a few hundredths, or even a tenth on any given lap. That may not sound like much, but when the top 10 cars run within a half second, it can mean several starting positions, key in the sprint races our cars tend to see. You can't run a race distance without something in the rear, but it's amazing that you can even run a qual session without burning up the rear gear with just the oil that sticks to the gears and case in a normal drain. Kids, don't try this at home!

On a related note, we change engine oil after every weekend, which is about 2-4 hours of actual track time, including practice, qualifying and racing.
Our tires last anywhere from 4 to 60 hours, depending on where you are racing, how much you are willing to tolerate loss of traction from heat cycling, and how sensitive you are to wear-induced stagger changes on ovals.

I forgot where I was getting Mobil 1 90w- I switched to Amsoil a while ago.

Swepco is also good stuff, and you'll be fine with any of the three, assuming it meets your Toyota's specs.

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Old 04-15-2007, 06:35 PM   #17
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Check out the amsoil website & look at the 75w-90 severe gear lube, has a pour point of -60*F so it will never get cold enough to gel up unless we enter the next ice age & will run at temps non synthetic oils will coke up at. The fore runner of this was series 2000 75w-90 which is what I'm running in the bike & truck. Everything I have is running synthetic fluids, makes a big difference, no more creaking, groaning, knocking when the temps get below 0*F.
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Old 04-15-2007, 11:15 PM   #18
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Default Re: Where can I get 90W gear oil?

Doing some more digging for the 90W. So far have found 2 makers of true 90W:

Schaeffer
http://www.schaefferoil.com/gear_oils.html

Royal Purple
http://www.royalpurple.com/prodsa/mgeara.html


My gut is telling me that Toyota dealers just put regular gear oil in it....
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GL-5 = SAE 90w gear oil (lube) , Work still buys from local oil dist Quaker State brand in bulk, Try Napa or any real parts stores and most new car dealer shops?...H
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You can get 90W at your local marine supply stores and shops. Just look for lower unit gear lube.
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