My new NAPA 7 drawer tool cart (REVIEW)

[anythingfastxxx]

So after researching and finally deciding to buy one Saturday I must say that I'm very pleased with my latest purchase. So I figure I'd write a little review.

Topic: Napa 7 drawer tool cart by Homak


First thoughts:
I'm more or less comparing the NAPA cart to the Cornwell since those were the 2 I was looking at and the closest carts to compare. From the research I did I expected it to be VERY comparable to the Cornwell (which I was strongly considering). The Cornwell is about $1000 bucks but is very nicely built and equipped. Compared to the Cornwell the NAPA is about 3" narrower, a bit shallower and about 2"-3" shorter overall. (I can get some more specific info here) Quality of this NAPA cart is very good overall from what I can tell. Decent metal although I'm not sure on the exact guage. At first after seeing it compared to my Matco I was disappointed by how much smaller interior it had in the till but after loading it up everything just seemed to fall right into place.

Pros:
*Extremely affordable @ $350 (my price on sale)
*Good looking
*Easy to move around
*Double ball bearing slides
*Built by Homak
*Screwdriver/prybar holders (very functional compared to the cheap HF, etc carts)
*Dimensions make it very efficient
*Nice detents on the drawers which make opening/closing a breeze
*No lock lever in the rear which means no boxed in area for the locking mechanism that kills space. (My Matco had this)
*Bumper guards to protect from scratching


Cons:
*Still not as big as the cornwell
*Annoying (SUPER ANNOYING) locking/safety to prevent more than one drawer to open at a time
*NAPA lettering is painted (may be a pro to you but I hate decals/stickers and I'm not able to remove it)
*4 swivel casters which make steering slightly more difficult in tight spots (although they surprisingly work pretty well)
*Casters are pretty firm which causes you to pick up alot of vibration rolling around and causes things to get dislodged/fall (cornwell has nicer casters and roll a bit smoother)
*The far rear prybar hole has some interference going down to the second hole from the upright on the back so you can't put a long pry bar in the back (at least not one with a wide tip). I may make a small modification to allow for this
*The bumpers/corner guards are thin looking/cheap looking
*The red is kind of a lighter/pale red

Overall:
I would DEFINITELY buy this cart again. Very nice alternative to $1000 cart and still well worth the money. I would recommend this to anybody.



To give you an idea of drawer space. I have a plier rack that has been cut down to about 20" and works great in this setup.








Next to a Cornwell.

This is what I replaced:

[bchee]

Nice review. I need to get some magnets and use that lid space like you.

The cornwell drawer is about 1.5" longer.

I kind of wondered about having the locking mechanism in the back.
I like being able to open the drawers with the top closed. The Napa doesn't allow that.

[lauver]

Anything,

Nice looking cart. I think you done good.

What are the external dimensions of your NAPA cart?

[Skin]

you wont appreciate not being able to open all the drawers until you've had your loaded cart/cabinet topple onto the floor.

Regardless its a nice looking cart [one which i'm still trying to hunt down] and for 1/3 the price of a truck brand cart i dont think you can go wrong.

[wchamberlain]

That looks sweet, I like the Cornwell & S/O cart. I did like the Matco one till I saw it compared to the CW & S/O version.

For $350 I'd say you did damn good.

[wchamberlain]

Fast,

What socket organizers are those????

[rickairmedic]

Originally Posted by wchamberlain

Fast,

What socket organizers are those????

I can answer that one they are the new HF ones everybody is raving about .


Rick

[chewy7]

Originally Posted by Skin

you wont appreciate not being able to open all the drawers until you've had your loaded cart/cabinet topple onto the floor.

Regardless its a nice looking cart [one which i'm still trying to hunt down] and for 1/3 the price of a truck brand cart i dont think you can go wrong.

i almost had my Harbor freight tools 13 drawer roller chest topple with having alot of drawers open lol.

Originally Posted by wchamberlain

Fast,

What socket organizers are those????

from Harbor freight tools

[wchamberlain]

Originally Posted by rickairmedic

I can answer that one they are the new HF ones everybody is raving about .


Rick

How do they compare to the Hansons????

WIlliam

[chewy7]

Originally Posted by wchamberlain

How do they compare to the Hansons????

WIlliam

dont know

[rickairmedic]

Here ya go huge thread in the general section . I have these trays and for the price cant be beat .

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...t=socket+trays


Rick

[rickairmedic]

Fast thanks for the great review . I have the HF 5 drawer but this one for not much more money looks like alot more storage .

Rick

[D9H 90V]

Awesome, Thanks for a review I was hoping somebody would do a nice review of that cart, load it up and post a bunch more pics when you get a chance!

[JSGAuto]

Did you purchase this on-line or locally? The NAPAs in this area (Northern NJ) and not nearly as stocked (or friendly) to the weekend wrencher.

Very nice review. Thanks for posting!

Thanks
Jim

[Fedwrench]

Nice purchase!

After you widen the holes for Pry bars and ratchet handles, you need to slap a magnetic glove holder on one side and attach a side shelf to the other side.
MTS magnetic wrench holders or Vim magrails can expand your storage capacity by using the underside of the lid.
I saw a few different Homak carts at Sema last year with deeper tills but, I can't find anyone selling them. Still a great cart for the money.

[anythingfastxxx]

Originally Posted by Fedwrench

Nice purchase!

After you widen the holes for Pry bars and ratchet handles, you need to slap a magnetic glove holder on one side and attach a side shelf to the other side.
MTS magnetic wrench holders or Vim magrails can expand your storage capacity by using the underside of the lid.
I saw a few different Homak carts at Sema last year with deeper tills but, I can't find anyone selling them. Still a great cart for the money.

The info/pictures you posted in another thread was actually the reason for me buying one. Thanks ;-)


I totally forgot about gettin more pics today. Got some more tools ordered so I'll be able to add a bit this week. I'll try to get some dimensions tomorrow however there is a thread on here with dimensions if you search napa tool cart.


Edit: here ya go http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...napa+tool+cart


I've got a bunch more goods coming either Friday or Saturday. Wrenches, the mts wrench holders, etc. I had already ordered that stuff before you mentioned it;-)


I think the blue cart is the best looking but I already have a red so box and I opted for red so that everything would be the same color.

[anythingfastxxx]

Added pictures as promised!!!

[bchee]

Weird I didn't know the Cornwell 7 drawer is taller than the Cornwell 4 drawer. My 4 drawer is the same height as the Napa.

[Deafautotech]

i own two matco service carts as MSC4 and MSC12.. MSC12 are best cart i has use and still use at work. it will hold a lot and lot of tools and no problems to push around... but i am looking for more storage space like add drawers under msc12 OR just get other cart with all drawers all way... i am not sure..

my matco msc4 i had used it a lot at old job, it served me good but i had worn out ball bearing slides even bent... but right it is my harley specialist tools storage cart...

[35mastr]

I was going to get the add on drawers for the MSC12. But its close to 500.00 for the drawers.

[35mastr]

I really like the Cornwell with the drawers all the way to the bottom. But there is no such thing as Cornwell in Norcal.

[bww_mnm]

just curious, why did you get rid of the matco?

[anythingfastxxx]

Mainly because of the lack of storage. Much more room in the new cart ;-)



And the matco will now be for hobby use :-)

[cokeb5]

were did you get the the tool holder in lid of your box?

[Wesley B]

Does anyone know if the casters on the napa cart can be removed and put some pnuematic tires like these?

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...029422_1029422

[anythingfastxxx]

Originally Posted by cokeb5

were did you get the the tool holder in lid of your box?

I bought it from the Matco guy. I actually just bought a red one to replace it and have no use really for the green one. If you'd like it maybe we could work somethin out.

Originally Posted by Wesley B

Does anyone know if the casters on the napa cart can be removed and put some pnuematic tires like these?

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...029422_1029422

Your link didn't work but I wouldn't see why not. Just have to measure and compare the bolt pattern.

[Wesley B]

Link works for me, they are 6 inch pnuematic casters. My driveway is exposed aggregate so rubber tires should help and being 6 inches wil make the cart a little taller.

[anythingfastxxx]

Got my organization on

[NJHandyGuy]

i like that where did you get teh holders ????

[Garage_Mahal]

They are Mechanics Timesavers brand.

I guess you never close your lid, eh?

[Fedwrench]

Originally Posted by Garage_Mahal

They are Mechanics Timesavers brand.

I guess you never close your lid, eh?

Actually, the holders remain in place when I close my lid. The wrenches and sockets only fall out if someone slaps the lid when it's closed.

[Garage_Mahal]

Wow! I gotta try that with mine. It would solve some problems. Did you upgrade the struts?

[justin85]

What is the part number on this cart? I have looked all over the NAPA site for it, but can't find it.

[Aklass]

Originally Posted by justin85

What is the part number on this cart? I have looked all over the NAPA site for it, but can't find it.

Same! Theres a cornwell in my area for 400, but I haven't got the cash for it yet...so this will suffice when I have cash and the cornwell dissapears

[biggie]

the part number for the napa cart is bk8050

[Aklass]

got nothing from napa online

[anythingfastxxx]

Originally Posted by NJHandyGuy

i like that where did you get teh holders ????

bought mine from Tooltopia. Cheapest place I could find.

Originally Posted by Garage_Mahal

They are Mechanics Timesavers brand.

I guess you never close your lid, eh?

Nope, no need to.

Originally Posted by Garage_Mahal

Wow! I gotta try that with mine. It would solve some problems. Did you upgrade the struts?

With the lid fully up there isn't that much stress put on the shocks. It'd be different if they were actually having to LIFT the weight. I will probably buy some threaded rod to replace them just to preserve the new shocks in case I ever decide I wanna open/close the lid.

Originally Posted by justin85

What is the part number on this cart? I have looked all over the NAPA site for it, but can't find it.

I couldn't find it either. I just called our sales rep and he did all the footwork for me and shipped it 30 miles from another store and had it waiting for me. Now THAT'S service.

Originally Posted by Aklass

Same! Theres a cornwell in my area for 400, but I haven't got the cash for it yet...so this will suffice when I have cash and the cornwell dissapears

I would buy it in a heartbeat if it's a 7 drawer. Wish there was one around KC. Where is your area?

Originally Posted by Aklass

got nothing from napa online

I'll look on the owner's manual and receipt for a p/n.

[makgreens]

what does this cart cost normally since you said u got it on sale?

[anythingfastxxx]

It's normally 399.00 and in my opinion still well worth the money!!!

[84scrambler]

There was another post on this cart. I was trying to get it a month ago but Napa doesn't stock them or have any orders out for them anymore. I had to confirm this with balkamp. The only way you can get this cart is if a local Napa has it in stock somewhere.

[makgreens]

Originally Posted by 84scrambler

There was another post on this cart. I was trying to get it a month ago but Napa doesn't stock them or have any orders out for them anymore. I had to confirm this with balkamp. The only way you can get this cart is if a local Napa has it in stock somewhere.

WELLLLLL SHITTTTTTTTT
i really wanted that box....now im even more frustrated

[84scrambler]

You may not want to give up quite yet. If Anythingfastxxx was able to buy one recently then that means that a few boxes are still floating around. You may want to call a bunch of Napa's and see if you can find one in stock. I'm not sure if an individual store will ship a box but it never hurts to ask. You may want to start by calling a Napa in Kansas City (Anythingfastxxx is from there).

[makgreens]

Originally Posted by 84scrambler

You may not want to give up quite yet. If Anythingfastxxx was able to buy one recently then that means that a few boxes are still floating around. You may want to call a bunch of Napa's and see if you can find one in stock. I'm not sure if an individual store will ship a box but it never hurts to ask. You may want to start by calling a Napa in Kansas City (Anythingfastxxx is from there).

yup i got one today

they are a promotional thing and you have to ask em if they have it

i know the nashville store has a blue one
i bought the black one that was here in chattanooga

[fast one]

Anything fast, what is the part number on your receipt? I called today and they couldn't find the cart. I used the bk 8050/80501/8052.

Thank you

[makgreens]

That is the part number...tell em its a 7 drawer service cart with a lid
Like I said earlier its a promo thing so u gotta bug em about it nand when their gone their gone apparently

[anythingfastxxx]

I'll try to see if I can find any other numbers that correlate. I know there are quite a few in KC. I got the last red one but they had several blue and black. MY receipts are in my box and I keep forgetting to look.

[84scrambler]

I had the same issue when I was trying to get the guy at the store to look up the part number. They kept asking for more numbers and I kept telling them this is all that I have. Like Macgreens said tell them its the 7 drawer service cart.

[amolaver]

Originally Posted by Fedwrench

Nice purchase!

After you widen the holes for Pry bars and ratchet handles, you need to slap a magnetic glove holder on one side and attach a side shelf to the other side.
MTS magnetic wrench holders or Vim magrails can expand your storage capacity by using the underside of the lid.
I saw a few different Homak carts at Sema last year with deeper tills but, I can't find anyone selling them. Still a great cart for the money.

sorry for the sidebar in advance..

fedwrench - where did you get the anodized swivel air fittings on your rats? i'd really like to get a few but haven't found a source. thanks!

ahm

[Fedwrench]

Originally Posted by amolaver

sorry for the sidebar in advance..

fedwrench - where did you get the anodized swivel air fittings on your rats? i'd really like to get a few but haven't found a source. thanks!

ahm

matco and Cornwell. Any tool truck or NAPA stocks them. You can also get the black dynabrade versions from MSC and Grainger. The cheaper versions leak like crazy.

[Skin]

Originally Posted by fast one

Anything fast, what is the part number on your receipt? I called today and they couldn't find the cart. I used the bk 8050/80501/8052.

Thank you

I decided to get serious about finding the cart. Nobody local stocks them, period. Called 9 [NINE!] Napas before i got a guy smart enough to search for "BK8050"/1/2 in its entirety. Apparently they're so use to looking up 7 digit part numbers nobody thought to put the BK in. I actually got to the point where i gave up asking if they could search for it, just asked if they stocked it because nobody knew what the hell i was asking about. If they insist that the part number is too short, they're wrong. One gentlemen claimed he knew what i was after but said they were discontinued. Anyway i finally got one determined individual who had no idea what i was talking about but told me he'd call me back, which he did, said they were "readily available" from the warehouse and that the number i gave him was indeed correct. So basically, pester your local store. Have them call their supplier if necessary.

The only thing i'm not clear on is price. He said they were "very expensive" and that he'd get back to me with a better price. I didnt think to ask what very expensive meant but the list should of been around $400. Perhaps thats a lot compared to their other carts they're use to selling. Anyway will report back when i hear back. Would be nice if i can get one for $350 or less.

[makgreens]

it was 400 at my store

[Skin]

i figure thats what he meant. The Ad said $399.00.

[bchee]

Price should be $400.
I don't know why the part number has been so hard to find. I had trouble too, nothing on NAPA.
Here is the instruction manual
http://toolwarrantyrepair.com/man/BK8050.pdf

[Skin]

its not that its hard to find its just that the monkey on the other end of the phone cant seem to compute that a number might have letters and be less than 7 digits. No offense to anyone who works at Napa and is actually competent and in fairness 3 of the guys i talked to were incredibly nice about it. Napa needs to update their stores about the new products and update their store catalogs because these places have no idea about them and cannot open their supply books and look it up. I'm sure most of them just thought i had no idea what i was talking about. The reaction i got was "Service cart with 7 drawers? thats like a tool box, are you sure its not a tool box?"

If its not listed in the computer lookup requiring a phone inquiry/order then i retact the monkey statement as well .

[makgreens]

Originally Posted by Skin

its not that its hard to find its just that the monkey on the other end of the phone cant seem to compute that a number might have letters and be less than 7 digits. No offense to anyone who works at Napa and is actually competent and in fairness 3 of the guys i talked to were incredibly nice about it. Napa needs to update their stores about the new products and update their store catalogs because these places have no idea about them and cannot open their supply books and look it up. I'm sure most of them just thought i had no idea what i was talking about. The reaction i got was "Service cart with 7 drawers? thats like a tool box, are you sure its not a tool box?"

If its not listed in the computer lookup requiring a phone inquiry/order then i retact the monkey statement as well .

they dont know because its a promo item....its not in their catalogs at all and wont be....

anything with the BK in the number is a promo and wont come out again....spent about 45 minutes talking to the store manager(been there for 15yrs) about the box and how it was strange it was a promo yet no stores really knew anything about them other than they were shipped to em and told to keep em in the back unless they had room up front

[makgreens]

now fast have you thought about finding a cover for your box?

at my work no one really has respect for others stuff and since im on the low end of the pole my box gets crap put on it....and i wanna keep this box looking nice as long as i can

[anythingfastxxx]

Sounds like you're well on your way. It is indeed a BK8052 not only on my instruction manual but my receipt as well. Funny thing is, I talked to the store manager hours after I initially talked to him and he told me there weren't any available. I had already gotten off the phone with Chris Sorell, our outside sales rep and he had located me one about 35 miles away. It's all about who you talk to and how determined they are.

[makgreens]

we should look to see if there are any boxes near the same size we can get a cover for

[Skin]

never heard back from the guy i talked to, called him back today and he told me his distributor werent doing promo pricing on them anymore and said they were $450. Balked at that, didnt even bother to question why it was over list. Called another store in NH had him look it up, 15 in stock was the reply @ $399, asked if that was the best price he could do and he knocked it down to $370 on the spot, so i got one. Bonus is its tax free . Will be picking it up over the weekend.

[PT Doc]

How does the build quality compare the the hf red 5 drawer? Wanting to get a cart but want to not regret it later. Thanks

[makgreens]

To me its superior to the hf cart...there's. 2 in my shop and mine slides smoother, seems to have more welds than bolts and has better casters

[shmokinjoe]

I had this cart. Very nice and well worth the money.
The first day I had it I grabbed a can of throttle body cleaner and it took the "NAPA" off with ease. It didn't really even touch the black paint. I went over the area with wax and you couldn't tell it was ever there.

[bchee]

Hey cart owners can you look at these parts of your cart (all 4 corners circled in yellow) and tell me if you notice anything unusual about the paint?

Thanks

[Skin]

seeing images of jesus in your cart paint?

[bchee]

LOL no man

There's something wrong with mine. I wonder if anybody else has the same problem.

[makgreens]

whats wrong with it?
ill look at mine in the am

[bchee]

They didn't prepare the surface before painting. You can see where they were grinding the steel, then just painted over it. It's not smooth. It's a fairly large area, about 5x5.

(I have the blue one, by the way)

[makgreens]

hmmm i didnt notice anything....ill look for sure tomorrow
but im pretty sure its smooth

after all they were made in china

[biggie]

just got my cart on thursday still putting things in order but its a great cart

[bchee]

Originally Posted by biggie

[IMG]
just got my cart on thursday still putting things in order but its a great cart

hmm I wonder if yours is similar

[ZombiehunterEKY]

What kind of hose/cord holder is that and how does it attach?

[biggie]

The shelf and hook are both craftsman I just bolted the together.and the shelf hangs off the edge

[Fedwrench]

Originally Posted by bchee

Hey cart owners can you look at these parts of your cart (all 4 corners circled in yellow) and tell me if you notice anything unusual about the paint?

Thanks

Nope. It's just your cart and everytime you look at it despite how many tools are in it or hanging off of it, your eyes will be drawn to those 4 spots like a moth to a flame. You will never look at your cart the same way again. Soon you will start to think "this cart sucks, I should have bought the Kobalt cart".
It's only a cart, not a new car or a work of art. It needs some patina, scratches and dings to give it character. Have a great tool day.

[biggie]

I agree fedwrench,thanks for saying something

[makgreens]

Mine looks fine
Might be the blue ones?

[bchee]

Originally Posted by Fedwrench

It needs some patina, scratches and dings to give it character.

You are correct that it has been driving me crazy.
If I had a choice between these 2 girls, I would choose the one without "character."

[Skin]

cracked the box open today and slapped it together. Very nice cart. Few comments.

1. They are indeed discontinued so once supply is gone, its gone.
2. The price, at least in new england, has gone up to $480 list. Even though i didnt pay that it was confirmed on the store shipping slip which they left with the unit. The $399 price seems dead however the store catalogs have not updated yet. No idea if its regional but given the limited availability and possible price hike if you're on the fence, dont hesitate much longer.
3. bchee, sorry i didnt take pics but mine had zero grinding or rough finish marks in the areas you circled. Its the blue one also. It does have a 1.5" scratch down the right side so its not a perfect gem either if that makes you feel any better.
4. This may sound a bit ghetto but i noticed the Weber silver A grill covers fit nicely over the cart and does cinch down pretty tight. Perhaps a cheap way to cover it? Not sure what a purpose made cover would go for, noticed SO ones run about $125-$180 so thats not going to happen.

[reesez]

do want! gonna try to find one at my local napas.

[makgreens]

hey biggie whats the holder youve got your chemicals in?

i just ordered a prybar holder for a sunex box....hopefully itll fit decently and ill get pics up as soon as it gets here and i install it

[biggie]

Originally Posted by makgreens

hey biggie whats the holder youve got your chemicals in?

i just ordered a prybar holder for a sunex box....hopefully itll fit decently and ill get pics up as soon as it gets here and i install it

its a mac can folder i had it painted black and folded the edge to mount it on the cart

[reesez]

so do you still like your cart? i found one and am rying to sell mine to pay for it lol. just wanna make sure theres no regrets lmao

[biggie]

Originally Posted by reesez

so do you still like your cart? i found one and am rying to sell mine to pay for it lol. just wanna make sure theres no regrets lmao

i really like my cart i also sold a snapon cart cause it had less tool storage,no regreats at all

[makgreens]

getting a start on my organization while waiting on a few new tools to get here

[makgreens]

got a sunex prybar holder for my box...ill find out tomorrow how extensive itll be to add it to our boxes....most likely cutting the lip off of the holder and drilling holes but we will see

[bchee]

For those interested in being able to fold the lid all the way back, I think it can be done easily on this box. Just remove the struts.

[dragonle87]

Originally Posted by anythingfastxxx

Got my organization on

Is that a screwdriver holder that you use for your extensions and ratchet?
If so, what brand is it

[makgreens]

got my prybar holder in
ya have to cut the lip off of the top and drill 2 holes but its well worth it worth a $30 upgrade

[anythingfastxxx]

Originally Posted by dragonle87

Is that a screwdriver holder that you use for your extensions and ratchet?
If so, what brand is it

They're the mechanic's tine savers screwdriver organizer. The tool trucks carry them but they're a lot more expensive. The cheapest place I've found is tooltopia

[dragonle87]

Originally Posted by anythingfastxxx

They're the mechanic's tine savers screwdriver organizer. The tool trucks carry them but they're a lot more expensive. The cheapest place I've found is tooltopia

Gotcha, I figure it was MTS brand though I dont see it on their official website.
And what do you use to organize your sockets (chrome & impact)

I'm looking for magnetic socket rails (I dont prefer tray due to space)
I have looked VIM (limited on colors so I can categorize chrome & impacts) , Lisle (better than tray but takes more space than Hansen), MTS Lock-A-Socket (but they're way too long)

[bchee]

The bolt holes on these HF magnetic rails just so happen to be the same width as the handles on the Napa cart. (already 4 pre-drilled holes in the cart, depending on which side you placed the handle)
http://www.harborfreight.com/18-inch...der-65489.html

[makgreens]

been thinking about adding this under my push handle....any thoughts?

[biggie]

Originally Posted by makgreens

been thinking about adding this under my push handle....any thoughts?

so did u get one?and if so how did it wrk out for you?

[makgreens]

Originally Posted by biggie

so did u get one?and if so how did it wrk out for you?

im still gonna order one...it should work out good though....ill have it on there hopefully next week

[makgreens]

finally got the air tool holder on the box...one day when i have time im going to take all the stickers off the box but right now i dont care ha

[GeorgiaHybrid]

I like the little 3/8 impact.....

[makgreens]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaHybrid

I like the little 3/8 impact.....

yeah me too
i might try and get one with a 1/2" anvil down the road....if i ever need it...i hate switching sockets with an adapter since our torque wrenches are 1/2" for our wheels

[OldsRocket]

I have been checking out carts for awhile and I have to say I really think this cart appears to be a great deal. I really like the Cornwell box that was mentioned previously in this thread but I don't have 1k to spend and have not found any used ones for sale. Are any of you guys using this in a shop on a daily basis? If so, how is it holding up?

Also, I love the pictures of organization and modifications that you guys are posting.

[Fedwrench]

Originally Posted by OldsRocket

Are any of you guys using this in a shop on a daily basis? If so, how is it holding up?

Mine is used in a shop environment daily. No durability issues. The only things I don't care for is the one drawer at a time open safety locks and the top till is not as deep as on the Cornwell cart. However, these are minor issues. It's a great little cart for the money.

[biggie]

Originally Posted by OldsRocket

I have been checking out carts for awhile and I have to say I really think this cart appears to be a great deal. I really like the Cornwell box that was mentioned previously in this thread but I don't have 1k to spend and have not found any used ones for sale. Are any of you guys using this in a shop on a daily basis? If so, how is it holding up?

Also, I love the pictures of organization and modifications that you guys are posting.

i use my everyday,we have to roll out our boxes & carts daily have no problems.its a well built cart.all u have to put on is the wheels & handle when you get it

[OldsRocket]

Originally Posted by Fedwrench

Nice purchase!

After you widen the holes for Pry bars and ratchet handles, you need to slap a magnetic glove holder on one side and attach a side shelf to the other side.
MTS magnetic wrench holders or Vim magrails can expand your storage capacity by using the underside of the lid.
I saw a few different Homak carts at Sema last year with deeper tills but, I can't find anyone selling them. Still a great cart for the money.

What side shelf did you get for the cart? Is it the Sunex? How well does it fit?

[biggie]

Originally Posted by OldsRocket

What side shelf did you get for the cart? Is it the Sunex? How well does it fit?

i got my shelf from craftsman its really good size and just hangs off the top lip and doesnt get in the way when u close the lid

[anythingfastxxx]

I agree about the one drawer at a time. the only other usability issues I have noticed is the finish isn't holding up as well as the Cornwell carts and the casters oughta be a bit softer so as to absorb more impact when rolling around. I work in an 11 bay shop and frequently roll my cart about 30-40 yards at a time and by time I get there my stuff starts sliding down my lid. The cornhole carts don't have as much of a problem. As far as the finish goes, it just seems like chemicals discolor mine worse than other boxes around the shop. SPECIFICALLY brake clean (we use hexane which is pretty strong and castrol super clean...... ) if not wiped off immediately you're screwed. Otherwise, I can't complain too much.

[freeskier]

what magnetic wrench holders are those on the cornwell lid?

[makgreens]

mine gets moved around everyday in an 18 bay shop with crappy floors

the thing is definitely worth the 400 bucks i paid for it...itll be completely filled before august im sure with the rate im buying tools so i would have to say in a shop setting its a great box

u can open the top 2 drawers at the same time....which is convenient

im so use to the 1 drawer at a time feature i forget it has it until i get on here

[OldsRocket]

Okay, so I purchased one of these things today and the lock cylinder came apart. I was able to open the lid but then when I tried to insert the key back into the lock pins and springs started popping out of the cylinder. I have no idea what happened. Anyone know how to disassemble and reassemble a barrel lock?

[makgreens]

not sure how that happened but im sure NAPA has some lock kits for their other homak boxes

[OldsRocket]

Yeah, I went down to NAPA the following day and they gave me a similar Homak barrel lock. Unfortunately it didn't fit in the hole perfectly so a little filing had to be done.

The guy at NAPA said the same thing happened with his Snap On Box. I guess the moral is make sure you firmly push the key in all the way and make sure it fully engages before turning it. Luckily for me I was trying to lock it with the lid open so I was able to get the thing apart easily.

[jjjrmx5]

Originally Posted by anythingfastxxx

I work in an 11 bay shop and frequently roll my cart about 30-40 yards at a time and by time I get there my stuff starts sliding down my lid.

That made me LOL.

Last time I checked, the NAPA service cars were not designed nor intended to hang or support anything for the lid itself. Putting an aftermarket piece of equipment in a situation it was not intended for and complaining about it's performance is like me putting huge steelies with monster mudder tires on my Audi sedan and complaining that the noise and crappy fuel mileage is Audi's fault.

It is a Great cart for the price tho if you can find one

[makgreens]

im loving my cart but im getting to where i need somewhere to place stuff....ie tools and paperwork....since i already added a prybar holder and airtool holder its looking like im SOL which is a bummer


doesnt help david(georgiahybrid) is trying to convince me to get a repo krsc46 ahhhhhhhhhhh now thats a bad ass box with a huge price tage

[anythingfastxxx]

Originally Posted by jjjrmx5

That made me LOL.

Last time I checked, the NAPA service cars were not designed nor intended to hang or support anything for the lid itself. Putting an aftermarket piece of equipment in a situation it was not intended for and complaining about it's performance is like me putting huge steelies with monster mudder tires on my Audi sedan and complaining that the noise and crappy fuel mileage is Audi's fault.

It is a Great cart for the price tho if you can find one

I don't see it that way. The purpose of this thread was to review the NAPA cart. And particularly compare it to the Cornwell cart. The point of my previous comment was merely that the casters on the Cornwell cart are smoother and roll nicer than the NAPA cart. Your "comparison" however seems quite farfetched.

[anythingfastxxx]

Originally Posted by makgreens

im loving my cart but im getting to where i need somewhere to place stuff....ie tools and paperwork....since i already added a prybar holder and airtool holder its looking like im SOL which is a bummer


doesnt help david(georgiahybrid) is trying to convince me to get a repo krsc46 ahhhhhhhhhhh now thats a bad ass box with a huge price tage

I just had to man up and buy a bigger box also. Got me a used Tech 1000 for around $1000 bucks

[GeorgiaHybrid]

Originally Posted by makgreens

im loving my cart but im getting to where i need somewhere to place stuff....ie tools and paperwork....since i already added a prybar holder and airtool holder its looking like im SOL which is a bummer


doesnt help david(georgiahybrid) is trying to convince me to get a repo krsc46 ahhhhhhhhhhh now thats a bad ass box with a huge price tage

LOL, It's only money..... I have found over the years it's easier to buy what you want while you are single. Once you get married and the wife cuts off your balls and puts them in her purse, it's harder to buy things....

[makgreens]

Originally Posted by anythingfastxxx

I just had to man up and buy a bigger box also. Got me a used Tech 1000 for around $1000 bucks

Get rid of your cart?

[Fedwrench]

Even if you get a monster tool box or pile all of your plastic boxes and not regularly used tools into a combination of wall lockers and metel filing cabinets, a multi drawer cart is the way to go. You can pack enough tools into it to probably cover at least 90% of recurring Automotive Tasks. It's mobile with a small footprint. It just might be the best $400 I've spent in a long time.

[TheGrooveking]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaHybrid

LOL, It's only money..... I have found over the years it's easier to buy what you want while you are single. Once you get married and the wife cuts off your balls and puts them in her purse, it's harder to buy things....

At least your balls are kept warm, mine are on a rusty nail in the shed, I was thinking about spring maintenance and maybe spraying some WD40 on that nail. Nothing worse than rust stains on your balls.

TheGrooveking

[oilslick]

I got my buddy at napa to locate me one of these to replace my bluepoint 4 drawer cart I will be swapping the casters though. I have plans to hang all sorts of stuff off this cart to make it as handy as possible, I work in a 5 bay shop so any reduction in trips to my macsimiser will help. I plan to use the lid to its ful potential[overload] I will also remove the lock that only allows one drawer at a time to be open. Mine is red and cost 400 no tax through shop

[bchee]

I loaded up my lid but I don't push mine around.

[oilslick]

I will post pics of mine when done. I will test the limits!!

[anythingfastxxx]

Originally Posted by makgreens

Get rid of your cart?

You kiddin me, no way.

Originally Posted by oilslick

I got my buddy at napa to locate me one of these to replace my bluepoint 4 drawer cart I will be swapping the casters though. I have plans to hang all sorts of stuff off this cart to make it as handy as possible, I work in a 5 bay shop so any reduction in trips to my macsimiser will help. I plan to use the lid to its ful potential[overload] I will also remove the lock that only allows one drawer at a time to be open. Mine is red and cost 400 no tax through shop

Let me know how it turns out takin the locks out. I haven't gotten around to doin mine yet. Looks like all the drawers have to come out to get what you gotta get to.

[usdemt]

I was looking at one of these today at my local napa and got to thinking about the one drawer open lock. If you remove it though then I dont believe you have the capability to lock the drawers with the lid down. The rods that lock it are on the inside closest to the drawer side in the corners. They had white caps on it, my thought was if you can pull those caps on and get a spring on the rod to keep it up you might be able to open all the drawers. Keep in mind I was just looking at it for a brief moment so I may be way off base on this though.

[Deafautotech]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaHybrid

LOL, It's only money..... I have found over the years it's easier to buy what you want while you are single. Once you get married and the wife cuts off your balls and puts them in her purse, it's harder to buy things....

OUCH!!! that why i am single and has three toolboxes at work and almost all techs need or want to borrow my tools... because either they has no money or just be cheap asshole or they has their balls cut by wifes....

[GeorgiaHybrid]

Andy,

Two things dad always told me that came out true.

1) Marriage is a young man's horror and an old man's comfort.

2) Marriage is a debt every man has to pay. How long you hold out before it happens depends on how good your credit is....

[bchee]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaHybrid

2) Marriage is a debt every man has to pay. How long you hold out before it happens depends on how good your credit is....

This one I don't understand. Why is marriage mandatory?

[makgreens]

anyone look into adding a locker to the side of our cart?

ive been thinking about it lately for all the tools with cases i have and for stuff i wont be using as much so i can cram my other drawers haha

[neitzel]

If any of you guys that are still trying to locate one of these carts are in Western Washington, I've been to two NAPA's recently that had one on the floor. One black one blue.

One in Centralia and one in Montesano.

[Goldboattail455]

I just found seven in the Lyons, IL Napa store. They aren't a corporate store so the corporate stores local to me can't order the boxes from the franchisee store. But the franchisee can order from corporate.

Anyways they are still $399, black, blue or red. I wanted yellow but they didn't make them in yellow. Not sure if I'll get this or the Matco MSC4Y for $746. Its harder to justify the Matco, I've got some planning/thinking to do.

[OldsRocket]

I have to say so far the NAPA cart is awesome. Many people in the shop are jealous and some of them have Matco and Snap On carts. I am sure the build quality may be better on those boxes but the utility of this cart is awesome. It's a tool box and a cart in one. The only thing I might say is it gets heavy pretty quick if you have it loaded with tools so it can be a bit difficult to wheel around. I have considered getting one of the cheap two or three shelf carts from Harbor Freight for when I have a job across the shop and don't feel like pulling this NAPA box around.

[anythingfastxxx]

Originally Posted by OldsRocket

I have to say so far the NAPA cart is awesome. Many people in the shop are jealous and some of them have Matco and Snap On carts. I am sure the build quality may be better on those boxes but the utility of this cart is awesome. It's a tool box and a cart in one. The only thing I might say is it gets heavy pretty quick if you have it loaded with tools so it can be a bit difficult to wheel around. I have considered getting one of the cheap two or three shelf carts from Harbor Freight for when I have a job across the shop and don't feel like pulling this NAPA box around.

Late reply I know..... But one of the guys at work has a Mac cart that has the slide open split top and it's loaded HEAVY. he also just got the add on drawers. I bet that thing weighs 700 pounds. He was having the same trouble rolling it around with 4 swivel casters so he tack welded two of the casters to make them fixed and it's worked out WAY better. I thought about doing this with mine. Although mine isn't too terrible to maneuver I have more of a problem with drawers coming open when I roll it.

[makgreens]

anyones box stuffed yet?
mines about there and i either have to take my 2 drawer matco cart to work or buy a bigger box

[PT Doc]

My local store is closed currently. Does anyone know if these are still available? Thanks

[apexit1]

I'm also interested. Its exactly what I'm looking for.

[PT Doc]

Can anyone provide dimensions: depth, height width, depth of top bin? Thank you very much.

[Skin]

Originally Posted by PT Doc

My local store is closed currently. Does anyone know if these are still available? Thanks

They were a limited production run so what was made was it. When i got mine [March] the local distribution center had something like 8 Blue left. The kicker though is that none of the dozen or so stores i called knew what i was talking about and only 1 place confirmed the sku number as correct. Everyone else kept telling me it wasnt enough numbers without even entering it into the system. So basically i'd be shocked if they were sold out yet.

I also believe the price went up, at least in the New England area. The place that ran the SKU down told me it was $480 and an entirely different store i ended up purchasing from @ cost even has ~480 listed as the MSRP on the shipping slip.

Originally Posted by PT Doc

Can anyone provide dimensions: depth, height width, depth of top bin? Thank you very much.

27" Wide 19" Long 5.75" Deep

Thats open space, then theres one pry-bar/screw driver holder on either side, both are 1.5" x 17"

[PT Doc]

Originally Posted by Skin

They were a limited production run so what was made was it. When i got mine [March] the local distribution center had something like 8 Blue left. The kicker though is that none of the dozen or so stores i called knew what i was talking about and only 1 place confirmed the sku number as correct. Everyone else kept telling me it wasnt enough numbers without even entering it into the system. So basically i'd be shocked if they were sold out yet.

I also believe the price went up, at least in the New England area. The place that ran the SKU down told me it was $480 and an entirely different store i ended up purchasing from @ cost even has ~480 listed as the MSRP on the shipping slip.



27" Wide 19" Long 5.75" Deep

Thats open space, then theres one pry-bar/screw driver holder on either side, both are 1.5" x 17"

So based on the dimensions this is 10" less wide than the hf 5 drawer red cart?
How tall is it? Thanks

[Skin]

Originally Posted by PT Doc

So based on the dimensions this is 10" less wide than the hf 5 drawer red cart?
How tall is it? Thanks

I dont have a HF cart but if they list measurements like their tool boxes then they include how far the overhang of the handle is as well. Regadless its not quite 10" The Napa cart is 30.5" wide total, you asked for the dimensions in the till so thats what i supplied [27" + 3" pry-bar holder space]. Like i said though they usually include the handle so if you want the total width with handle it would be ~37" [HF] vs ~35" [Napa]

Its about 40" tall from floor to top.

[PT Doc]

Originally Posted by Skin

I dont have a HF cart but if they list measurements like their tool boxes then they include how far the overhang of the handle is as well. Regadless its not quite 10" The Napa cart is 30.5" wide total, you asked for the dimensions in the till so thats what i supplied [27" + 3" pry-bar holder space]. Like i said though they usually include the handle so if you want the total width with handle it would be ~37" [HF] vs ~35" [Napa]

Its about 40" tall from floor to top.

Thank you very much for the clarification. I think this would be a great cart for me.

Thanks again.

[PT Doc]

For those looking for a cover, this might work:


COVER

Service cart cover to help keep dust and other debris off the cart.
Velcro opening on the front of the cover allows the drawers to be accessed with the whole the cover remains on the cart.
Water resistant but not water proof.
MSC4C - Cover for MSC4 and MSCL440 series
K7MSC12CVR - Cover for MSC12

[Simz144]

Originally Posted by PT Doc

Velcro opening on the front of the cover allows the drawers to be accessed with the whole the cover remains on the cart.

The top must be open, to open drawer. for the 4 drawers a least

[PT Doc]

Originally Posted by Simz144

The top must be open, to open drawer. for the 4 drawers a least

Its a fail then

[jjjrmx5]

The top must be open, to open drawer. for the 4 drawers a least

Yes.

Originally Posted by PT Doc

Its a fail then

LOL.
Then "fail" away.

This has been a std. part of the cart design going back more then 5 years ago and possibly more.
Hell, even HF has a "lock and roll" type deal on its 5 dwr carts from the mid 2000's.

Disable the plungers and go to town. It's not new. The lock-out that you need to deal with inside the top lid is new tho.

OMGkudos4uandtehshittyhlptho. kthnxbye. LMAO.

[PT Doc]

Got a black one from Billings, MT. They still have 1 red and 1 blue. Black needs to be ordered from the factory at this point.

I like this a whole lot better than the hf 5 drawer. Weird locking drawer system though. Might have to look into disabling it.

[Fedwrench]

The NAPA distribution center in Phoenix had a small tool expo last Friday and was selling these carts for $299.99.

[PT Doc]

That is a great deal. This cart should be considered if you arte considering any cart. An doubly do if they were 299.

[anythingfastxxx]

That is a GREAT PRICE. I wouldn't wait around if you're considering this.

[PT Doc]

I called Balkamp yesterday. They are the manufacturer of this 7 drawer cart. Homak is not. These are no longer available from them so if someone wants one get on it. One NAPA said it would take 4-6 weeks which doesn't seen right since Balkamp stated this was a promo item they made last year. Napa might order more but it sounds like the run is done and what is out there is it. Hope this helps.

[OldsRocket]

Has anyone upgraded the castors on this box? I honestly feel like the Harbor Freight 5 drawer has better castors than this one. Can anyone recommend castors for this box?

[PT Doc]

Originally Posted by OldsRocket

Has anyone upgraded the castors on this box? I honestly feel like the Harbor Freight 5 drawer has better castors than this one. Can anyone recommend castors for this box?

Do you have harbor freight close by? Mine has quite a few casters in all sizes. You could probably get the ones that come on the the red cart.

Also look on ebay. Plenty of castet choices there.

Keep us posted on how things turn out.

[anythingfastxxx]

Originally Posted by OldsRocket

Has anyone upgraded the castors on this box? I honestly feel like the Harbor Freight 5 drawer has better castors than this one. Can anyone recommend castors for this box?

I decided to upgrade my casters. The junk casters on the NAPA cart were really starting to wear on me. I also deleted the drawer lock system. It was really starting to piss me off everyday. If the cart is any kind of unlevel at all the drawers roll out. Sometimes two at a time and then wanna jam up.



Here's what I ended up with:














I also increased the drawer size a bit and overall dimensions.........


































I still say for the money the NAPA cart is a good deal. But the Cornwell sure is nice. There are a handful of things about it that just are more user friendly and make it more enjoyable to work with. I got a pretty good deal on two Cornwell carts. (He was looking to upgrade to a double bay box and wanted to sell them together) I didn't STEAL them but I made out pretty good I think. I needed a cart for the garage and now I have two to choose from. Either gonna sell the NAPA cart or the spare Cornwell.

[Fedwrench]

Yep, the side by side comparison shot says it all. On your cornwell cart, you want to remove each of the little rubber end pieces on the drawer pulls and glue them in place with a little dab of weatherstrip cement. Otherwise, they'll slowly disappear one by one, and then the black plastic piece on the drawer pull face will slide all over. The greatest thing about the Cornwell cart is the deep till. You can close the lid and not have to move any pry bars. Great cart!!

For anyone in the Phoenix area, the Napa on like 26th street and Thomas has the Black and Red Napa carts on sale for $299.99 until they're gone. It's not as sweet as the Cornwell cart but, it's a lot of cart for $300.

[Skin]

does anyone know if any of the cart adds that tool topia sells [shelves/can holders] fit on the napa cart?

[anythingfastxxx]

Originally Posted by Skin

does anyone know if any of the cart adds that tool topia sells [shelves/can holders] fit on the napa cart?

The Sunex from Tooltopia I believe was 16x18. Not quite as big from what I remember.

[Joe93]

Just an FYI. Some of these carts are still out there. I just ordered mine in blue. It was 399. Had some trouble finding the cart with the given part numbers. The way my napa guy found it was just looking up the 8050 and not using the bk.

[PT Doc]

What side shelf fits this cart the best. Can the top lid still be closed? Thanks

[biggie]

Originally Posted by PT Doc

What side shelf fits this cart the best. Can the top lid still be closed? Thanks

i have a craftsman side self works great

[biggie]

Originally Posted by PT Doc

What side shelf fits this cart the best. Can the top lid still be closed? Thanks

[softailgarage]

parts driver came into the shop with a black one left over from the tool show last month. had it in the truck, last one left, wanted $250.00...SOLD! Seems to be good quality however, i dont dig the lock mechanism either, snap on & matco have similar carts for over $400.00. i think we both got smokin deals

[PT Doc]

Originally Posted by biggie

Do you have a part number? Does it attach just with screws or is there a lip that catches the top till edge?

Thanks

[archirelic]

It looks as though there's a lip which lets it hang.

[db130]

I have located a blue one for sale but at the list price of ~$400+tax, it is more than the cost of TWO HF 5-drawer carts.

Decisions, decisions.....

[db130]

just wanted to share my seach story for this cart, I called 3 stores:

Store #1: "Nooooo, we don't have it(didn't even offer to look it up in the computer)."
Store #2: "We can get a blue one from the warehouse in a day, it's $400 and we can stack the 10% AAA discount."

The problem with store #2 is that I can't get there during their normal hours of operation due to my job schedule during the week, so it'd have to go there on a saturday then pick it up the following saturday, so I kept calling.

Store #3: "I can't access the warehouse inventory after 5pm but I'd be happy to call you back tomorrow morning." - What do I have to lose? I gave him my info

Store #3 called back this morning, "This was a promo item and it is no longer available."

I told him about Store #2, he said he'd call me back. He calls me back five minutes later, "No one at Store #2 knows about this cart." I gave him the name of the person at Store #2 that I dealt with yesterday.... The guy at #3 says he'd call me back again.... Five minutes later, #3 says...........

"What color do you want? We have them at our warehouse 10 minutes away and we can have it here within the hour." I asked him how many of each colors he had at the warehouse, he says 12 blue, 10 black, and 12 red! As someone earlier here said, the list price is $480 but he'd sell it for the promo price of $400 and stack the AAA discount.

[Kilo70]

I just found one of these in Red for a Clearance price of $280 !!!!
I still need to go get it though,I was only in for some Anti-freeze and looked at the one they had.
I dont really need it but its pretty nice.

[Kilo70]

Just had it delivered to the shop,but they're closed today so I cant play with it yet.

[anythingfastxxx]

That's a crazy awesome price. Very jealous!!!

[PT Doc]

This is a great cart. Very nice for the money.

[bsaint]

can someone tell me the overall dimensions. trying to see if itll fit in my hatchback for the ride back to the shop.

[ElectroLight]

Did Photobucket dump all the pics from the beginning of this thread? Too bad...

[anythingfastxxx]

Do you need some pics? I'll see what happened and try to get them back up.

[bsaint]

No just the dimensions.

[softailgarage]

Dimensions are : 31"x 2o 1/2" x 41" w/casters WxDxH
x 35" w/o casters

So, one day the Napa driver pulls up to the shop with this in the truck. Tells me it's left over from the tool show the a couple weeks prior and they only want $250.00...SOLD even gave the dude $10.00 for bringing it buy our shop first.This is one of many boxes/carts at home.
I checked all 4 corners, couldn't see any problems.
I like the chemical box, I'll check the tool trucks for one.
I'm real happy with the quality, definetly take this over HF any day. IMG_1076.JPG

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[dudutzu905]

does it come with drawer liners too?
now where can I find one of these...?

[PT Doc]

This was a holiday promo from 2 ago. I found one last spring bit it was slim pickings.