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Old 03-07-2011, 12:05 AM   #1
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Default Wilton Bullet Vise Information

I'm trying to make a timeline of Wilton's vises and I'm primarily focusing on the bullet style vises. Some of the things I'm trying to figure out are when the print on the sides of the vises changed, meaning of the date stamps ( manufacturing date vs warranty date), why some early vises have numbers that aren't dates where the date stamp should be (mine has "171" but is clearly an early vise), etc.

Anyways, I'm collecting data and building the timeline in Open Office. I've found a couple threads on here and OWWM to start with but I'd like to get some more info to add in. I'm looking for pictures and information. I'm noting who owns the vise and where I found the information so others can check it out as well.

I've attached what I have so far as a pdf file. I'm looking for pictures of your Wilton vises where I can see the printing on the sides and a picture of the date stamp. I'm calling the vises "Vise #" in the timeline in the order I'm adding them. If you scroll down to the last page in the pdf there is a list of who owns these vises and where the pics were sourced from.

I'm also trying to keep a log of the following data on the vises:

Owner:
Jaw Size:
Model:
Number(s):
Weight
Date Stamp:
Left Body Text:
Right Body Text:
Source:

If you have anything to post I'd appreciate it. I'm collecting the info out of curiosity only. I have and will make the timeline available to others. If you have any Wilton info to add feel free to post it up as well. I know we've got a lot of vise fans and Wilton owners here so hopefully I can get a lot of replies.

Thanks,
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The pdf for the timeline can be found here: Updated 8-28-12
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Old 03-07-2011, 12:54 AM   #2
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Default Re: Wilton Bullet Vise Information

There's something familiar about that 4" Bullet in the PDF :-)

I'll try to get a pic of the bottom of the slide for you tomorrow.

I've also got a 2" mini and a 5" monster. The big one is disassembled and half primered so I don't have pics of both sides of that one, but I should be able to get some soon.
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Most of my Wilton info vanished when my drive crashed along with 100's of Wilton photos. Somehow, along the way, I should have something to add to it.
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Old 03-07-2011, 09:13 AM   #4
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Default Re: Wilton Bullet Vise Information

Wow, you guys sure do love your Wiltons! Wanna do one for Reed or Parker?
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:06 AM   #5
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There's something familiar about that 4" Bullet in the PDF :-)

I'll try to get a pic of the bottom of the slide for you tomorrow.

I've also got a 2" mini and a 5" monster. The big one is disassembled and half primered so I don't have pics of both sides of that one, but I should be able to get some soon.
Hmm, yeah you might have seen that one before. Thanks I'll look forward to the pics.


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Most of my Wilton info vanished when my drive crashed along with 100's of Wilton photos.
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Wow, you guys sure do love your Wiltons! Wanna do one for Reed or Parker?
Heh, I don't own one of those...yet. I tried to find out some history on Prentiss but that's like a black hole.
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Old 03-07-2011, 12:57 PM   #6
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Most of my Wilton info vanished when my drive crashed along with 100's of Wilton photos. Somehow, along the way, I should have something to add to it.
Sorry to hear about that.

Just some helpful info here . . . I always have two hard drives. One for the program files (C drive) and one for my personal files, photos, etc. (E or F drive).

Doing it that way ensures when your C drive crashes, as it is the one usually targeted by viruses and spyware, you can just replace the C-drive and still have all your personal files. Then just reinstall your program files.

Or you can buy a separate drive and use a backup software system to store your files there, but if the virus is present then it won't do any good though. Also, virus security suites are helpful but not bullet proof, pun intended.

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Old 03-07-2011, 02:12 PM   #7
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Here's my Wilton Bullet photos. Good luck on this Dave.

Owner: JunkyardTools.com, aka kc-steve
Jaw Size: 3-inch
Model: (unknown, guessing either a Tradesman or Machinist) no pipe jaws.
Number(s): 930
Weight: approximately 15-16 lbs.
Date Stamp: 9-46
Left Body Text: "Wilton Chicago USA, 930"
Right Body Text: "Wilton Chicago (L-circle) USA"
Source: Garage Sale, $18 in 2009.





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Old 03-07-2011, 05:55 PM   #8
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Wow, you guys sure do love your Wiltons! Wanna do one for Reed or Parker?
I think Parkers numbering system is alot worse then Wilton. Parker was all over the place in their numbering system depending on when they were made. Am I right?
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I think Parkers numbering system is alot worse then Wilton. Parker was all over the place in their numbering system depending on when they were made. Am I right?
I think I remember reading that at the height of production Parker was making 30+ models of vises. They had the most extensive line-up of any company. IIRC that is why the models started going alpha-numeric and other sorts of crazy.
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Old 03-07-2011, 07:32 PM   #10
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Default Re: Wilton Bullet Vise Information

Owner: Gilbo
Jaw Size: 3 1/2
Model: 9350
Number(s): 835 (Left Body side) 13 350B (underside swivel base) N (dynamic jaw)
Weight 35.5
Date Stamp:6-30-64
Left Body Text: Wilton Schiller Park, ILL USA
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Old 03-07-2011, 07:56 PM   #11
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This is my 4" Wilton "bullet" style vise, Model 9400-A, 1959 (or earlier).

It looks as though the original paint color may have been a solid, bright medium blue, close to what I'd call "Miller welding equipment blue".

Interesting is the “GUAR EXP” stamped above the 12-31-59 date stamp… I'm guessing that it is the warranty (GUARantee? expiration date, ie, "GUARantee EXPires on 12-31-59?



















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This is my 4" Wilton "bullet" style vise, Model 9400-A, 1959 (or earlier).

It looks as though the original paint color may have been a solid, bright medium blue, close to what I'd call "Miller welding equipment blue".

Interesting is the “GUAR EXP” stamped above the 12-31-59 date stamp… I'm guessing that it is the warranty (GUARantee? expiration date, ie, "GUARantee EXPires on 12-31-59?
That makes sense because your casting says "Chicago" but the 5-year warranty expired when they were in the Schiller Park plant by 1957-58. Maybe that was also the beginning of the transition of going to the actual date of production as well. Just a thought.

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Thanks for the info. I'll try to update my timeline tomorrow and post a new version of it. Keep it coming!
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Old 03-08-2011, 12:00 AM   #14
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On later Wilton vises, they list Schiller Park Illinois 60176 in the raised letters. Since Zip Code did not achieve useage until 1963, this might be a point in your time line. Before 1963, there were only zone codes like Chicago 7 Illinois. I am refurbishing a 450 Wilton now and still have it apart. I will photo the date on the keyway and the sides. It is a 1993 model. When I called Wilton today to order a hold down nut (one side is missing), I was asked by the operator if it was made prior to 1998. She said that the part was changed in 1998 and took a different number. Nice effort to document the Wilton line!
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It is a 1993 model. When I called Wilton today to order a hold down nut (one side is missing), I was asked by the operator if it was made prior to 1998. She said that the part was changed in 1998 and took a different number. Nice effort to document the Wilton line!
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The Wilton number of the old hold down was replaced by the current No. 1000771 which includes the bolt. That way they could double the price.
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Owner: PFB
Jaw Size: 4-1/2" x 1"
Model: 9450 w/ swivel base
Number(s): 9450 (UPC 101033)
Weight: 60 pounds with swivel base
Date Stamp: 670 (June 1970)
Left Body Text: 101033 / 9450 / WILTON (curved) / SCHILLER PARK ILL / USA
Right Body Text: WILTON (curved) / SCHILLER PARK ILL / USA
Source: eBay, $96 shipped.

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To get it under the size limit messes up the pictures some so I'll try to fine another way to host it in the future.
Might try google docs...
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Owner: Gilbo
Jaw Size: 3 1/2
Model: 9350
Number(s): 835 (Left Body side) 13 350B (underside swivel base) N (dynamic jaw)
Weight 35.5
Date Stamp:6-30-64
Left Body Text: Wilton Schiller Park, ILL USA
Right Body Text: Wilton Schiller Park, ILL USA
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Nice looking vise! I've added it to the timeline.

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This is my 4" Wilton "bullet" style vise, Model 9400-A, 1959 (or earlier).

It looks as though the original paint color may have been a solid, bright medium blue, close to what I'd call "Miller welding equipment blue".

Interesting is the “GUAR EXP” stamped above the 12-31-59 date stamp… I'm guessing that it is the warranty (GUARantee? expiration date, ie, "GUARantee EXPires on 12-31-59?
Another good looking vise! Yes, I believe that is what GUAR EXP means. Since you're states GUAR EXP, I'm listing it as being manufactured in 1954. Which makes since since it says Chicago on it and they were still making them there in 54 but not in 59. Also added to the timeline.

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Owner: PFB
Jaw Size: 4-1/2" x 3/4"
Model: 9450 w/ swivel base
Number(s): 9450 (UPC 101033)
Weight: 60 pounds with swivel base
Date Stamp: 670 (June 1970)
Left Body Text: 101033 / 9450 / WILTON (curved) / SCHILLER PARK ILL / USA
Right Body Text: WILTON (curved) / SCHILLER PARK ILL / USA
Source: eBay, $96 shipped.
That vise cleaned up very well. This is another one of the "confusing" vises like mine. I'm not sure that 670 is a date code. My 6" pat pending vise has a 3 number code (171) on it like that but it the Pat Pend on it means it has to be an early vise not one made in the 70s. Can anyone shed light on these 3 number codes? I have not added this vise yet since I'm unsure where to place it.

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Brilliant! I'll do that.

I've added a link to the first post.


To all, I'm calling the vises "Vise #" in the order I'm adding them. If you scroll down to the last page there is a list of who owns these vises and where the pics were sourced from.

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. . . That vise cleaned up very well. This is another one of the "confusing" vises like mine. I'm not sure that 670 is a date code. My 6" pat pending vise has a 3 number code (171) on it like that but it the Pat Pend on it means it has to be an early vise not one made in the 70s. Can anyone shed light on these 3 number codes? I have not added this vise yet since I'm unsure where to place it.
My "light" is rather dim, and we might need to get some more examples before I would say this is conclusive, but it might be that the "X-XX" dates are the guarantee expiration dates and the "XXX" date stamps might be the actual date of production that came about later.

I still think your vise might have been repaired at a later date, replacing the dynamic jaw and came with the newer date code because that's what they happened to have in inventory. Just guessing though.

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That's a possibility. I'm not 100% sure on what I said before but am questioning it hoping someone here can shed some light on the issue.
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