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Old 03-31-2011, 08:16 PM   #1
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Default combine hot and cold water taps into a single hose

I have hot and cold taps in my garage that I would like to run a single hose to mix the temp. I've tried the easy way, by putting in a 3-1 hose splice. that failed pretty bad as the water sprayed everywhere. In fact, I never use these faucets because they've always sprayed water. (house is only 10 years old, which I had built)




any ideas? I'd appreciate it.

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Old 03-31-2011, 08:28 PM   #2
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to clarify, you just want to have luke-warm water all the time out of a single faucet?

you could try a TMV (Thermostatic Mixing Valve)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermostatic_mixing_valve
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Old 03-31-2011, 08:32 PM   #3
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If you could post a pic that would help a lot and a brief description of what you may want and how you might find it acceptable to look.
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Old 03-31-2011, 08:49 PM   #4
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my suggestion is to fix whatever is causing them to spray water everywhere. where is the water spraying from? you are using washers in the hose fittings right?

if budget is no object, chicago faucet has some nice offerings
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Old 03-31-2011, 08:52 PM   #5
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Default Re: combine hot and cold water taps into a single hose

Is this what you are needing. What kind of tap is it? where is the water spraying from?

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...631244.2632011
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Old 03-31-2011, 09:01 PM   #6
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Is this what you are needing. What kind of tap is it? where is the water spraying from?

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...631244.2632011

Don't leave the water on when not in use/ unneeded, it can play havov w/ water temps. (Not to mention risk of a burst hose).
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Default Re: combine hot and cold water taps into a single hose

I just use the Y-hose pictured above for my slop sink. -No problems...
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Old 03-31-2011, 09:30 PM   #8
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This site has the fastest responses known to man. I'll get pics tomorrow.

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Old 03-31-2011, 09:44 PM   #9
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my garage has something like this.... only the taps are on the sides and the hose out the center but you get the idea....

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Old 03-31-2011, 09:46 PM   #10
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Thats a good looking setup^

Just be careful not get cross flow when using a y hose setup.. the hot water might be slightly higher or lower pressure then the cold and water will flow from one to the other. flush a toilet and get a slug of hot going into the cold side. Hot shower and after a while the hot side can get flooded with cold. If water is flowing out of the hose then cross flow is not a concern leaving both hot and cold valves open and connected with no flow through the hose can open up potential issues.
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Old 03-31-2011, 09:52 PM   #11
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that's a sweet hose bib, and a great solution. Is it non-freeze style?
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:28 PM   #12
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I still have this little sketch from the one at my friends shop...1/2" copper, sweat fittings, and use the ball valves to regulate temperature...
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:36 PM   #13
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Thats a good looking setup^

Just be careful not get cross flow when using a y hose setup.. the hot water might be slightly higher or lower pressure then the cold and water will flow from one to the other. flush a toilet and get a slug of hot going into the cold side. Hot shower and after a while the hot side can get flooded with cold. If water is flowing out of the hose then cross flow is not a concern leaving both hot and cold valves open and connected with no flow through the hose can open up potential issues.
That cross flow situation can occur with most any faucet or shower in the house that mix hot/cold internally. It does not seem to be a problem normally.
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I have long pondered installing a tempered spigot for washing cars. Rather than buying a dedicated freeze-prone mixing valve, I was going to have a frost-free spigot downstream of a toilet mixing valve. It's got the built-in checkvalves, and it's designed for this application. I just don't know if it will flow enough and haven't gotten around to testing one.
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What's the worst that could happen with crossflow? why is it so bad?
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Default Re: combine hot and cold water taps into a single hose

Last summer I had a Moen hot / cold valve installed next to my driveway for washing cars. Just ran pex to it from the lines in the basement. Works just like a shower value - all hot, all cold, or anything in between. It was like $60. It's also frost free.
Ran the cold from a softened line, too so it's 100% soft water - much better for washing cars here in limestone land. And it's really nice to have hot water outside to wash stuff with (cars, lawn furniture, etc.). Hot water really helps loosen dirt.
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Old 04-01-2011, 09:25 AM   #17
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By law here any external tap (faucet) has to have an anti-syphon valve either built into the tap fitting or installed inline with it to prevent wtaer syphoning back if you say leave the hose in a bucket and the pressure drops. Just install one in each line to prevent wtare flowing backwards between hot and cold.
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Google a search for Thermostatic Hot and cold mixing valves...
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Old 04-01-2011, 10:30 AM   #19
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Here's what you need. Made in the USA

https://www.buyeagle.biz/page.asp?id...52&prodid=6128


Here is the mfg:
http://www.woodfordmfg.com/woodford/WFDIndex.html

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I've added a photo in the first post. full speed ahead.



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