R. Deschain
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Stuart in MN
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I've watched some of his other videos recently and he does some pretty cool stuff. There's sort of a Youtube machinist community - this guy along with a bunch of other machinists, collaborate with each other. They'll trade work back and forth, or work together on some common project. You'll often hear them referring to some of the other guys in their videos, so then you have to go find that guy and start watching his videos.
NORTON'S SHOP
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Sorry Ryan, I could only stand 10 minutes of that guy.
Two things, first he needs a girlfriend and second I can't take anyone serious who would leave a finish cut on that pegboard that like, specially the top.
You made it 9 minutes longer than me.
sharps5090
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Oh I don't know......I liked it.
bmxdad
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In any machine shop there is no ultimate setup. It all depends on work-flow ...
I used to teach Boeing's Version of the Toyota Production System (TPS) ... It was called Accelerated Improvement Workshop (AIW). I think it's morphed into something else ... but there is always a way to improve a process.
I used to teach Boeing's Version of the Toyota Production System (TPS) ... It was called Accelerated Improvement Workshop (AIW). I think it's morphed into something else ... but there is always a way to improve a process.
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blazemaster83
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Lets see everyone else's shop that they own. If you don't want to watch it, don't watch lol. I don't understand the troll threads about some guy starting and running his own biz the way he wants. Start up your own shop and show him who's boss...
The guy has some good ideas and first being it's never finished. Some sort of formal origination is better than nothing. Being able to put your hand on the correct tool immediately is what the goal is. The cutout foam on the top of the box is a great one to me. Also understand that the shop being shown is a multi user shop where everyone has to be able to work. That takes a different thought process than where most of us have a one man shop.
That being said I'd kick his **** for his file storage and some of the cutters, and he even admitted he knows better.
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That being said I'd kick his **** for his file storage and some of the cutters, and he even admitted he knows better.
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no neat sig line
AP2TUDE
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I like how he addresses early that there isn't a right answer, and that you can't just have a set in stone structure of tools. It's always going to change, and you are going to constantly ways to edit and improve your setup and your workflow.
Still, the more that I see of this Kaizen foam, the more I want it.
Still, the more that I see of this Kaizen foam, the more I want it.
OP
Tough crowd as usual... wouldn't want it any other way.
pamike
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He has some good points, and the foam might work well for a shop with employees where you have to hold peoples hands to keep them accountable and to make sure things don't "walk off"...however I cant see using the foam in my personal shop. Things are always changing....I would be cutting foam every day..
pamike
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It's still the day shift, just wait til night shift arrives and happy hour kicks in.
hahahah.....
paranoid56
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stop being a tool elitist. seems hes able to do what he need with what he has.
bmk
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The guy must be making money hand over fist. He just added a new Haas VM3 to his line up. No bad for a garage start up.
Comments like this crack me up, Lets see you start a biz from a 2 bedroom apt in NYC and turn it into a full fledged machine shop in under 10 years with low debt ratio.
John has the right idea, its called bootstrapping, keep costs to a minimum, while putting out great quality.
As far as the tool storage I can see it working for certain things, but like a lot of others I would not work so well for me. If I was doing the same job over and over I can see it working well.
PelicanPines
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He has way too much space.
That said... I would love to own or work in that space.
To the one that already said it... I have four times more stuff in 1/10th the space... me too.
That said... I would love to own or work in that space.
To the one that already said it... I have four times more stuff in 1/10th the space... me too.
Do a bit of research, started in a spare bed room, moved to a barn, to a smaller shop and now to a large building, which he is still fitting out as the jobs require new equipment he is adding to it.
Nothing wrong IMO to get a larger space and spread out, as he adds more equipment the space will have to evolve.
It has been said over and over here that the one thing that we would all do differently when building our shops it to build them bigger.
dittle fart around
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I worked building and wiring substation panels for the high voltage transmission system in the Pacific Northwest. It was a tedious job. What helped was having what you need where you need it. I was constantly improving my work area. Each time you did something you learned how to do it better and quicker.
One crew I worked on had an extra box van that had Stanley Vidmar cabinets along one wall. Since I did most of the wiring on the crew, I worked out of the box van. I used the standard dividers, it was a pain, I like the plastic bins better.
There's nothing better than being organized. Makes ya happy to be productive and improving.
One crew I worked on had an extra box van that had Stanley Vidmar cabinets along one wall. Since I did most of the wiring on the crew, I worked out of the box van. I used the standard dividers, it was a pain, I like the plastic bins better.
There's nothing better than being organized. Makes ya happy to be productive and improving.
justanengineer
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Most of his tools and machines are freebies bc of the hobbyist crowd following him on youtube. Like many others he's thoroughly "sponsored" by various vendors including Tormach, Haas, and various tooling companies hence all the shirts and hidden advertising. He's also an "official" Tormach instructor that gives CNC 101 classes. Haas actually released a bunch of promotional videos and materials of him touring their plant "helping" build the new machine a few weeks ago. I dont follow John but have a few connections at Haas and follow the cnc industry pretty closely, also have many friends between model engineering clubs and professional shops that are suppliers of mine. JMO and not trying to be negative but he's an amateur at best and I'd doubt he'd be in business without youtube, some of the elder hobbyists I know are simply amazing by comparison.
On the subject of organization, I'm not a fan of foam for a static shop however for any sort of regularly traveling box I love it. I've got several done for exactly that reason.
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Hephaestus29
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Great Quality ???? I don't know, I've
had some parts made by his shop, but
I wouldn't say Great.
I apologize; my comment was a bit snarky and did not contribute to the spirit of the thread. One does have to admire how organized his shop is, and if he's making tons of money my hat is off to him.
And yup, it puts my home shop to shame....
For me, it was good to hear some of the stuff the guy says because I'm really looking to reinvent my way of being around the shop. As well, it was good to see that we do have some commonalities in multiple tools in different use areas.
I don't use those trays (I cut up peroxide bottles) and foam hasn't ever appealed to me BUT I did get something out of that vid.
Organization has really been a focus for me so of course my ears perk up. It's like I heard a psychologist say at a management professional development course, "In a world filled with information, it makes sense that people filter out what they don't think they need and listen to what they do." So, some folks see this guy's vid and tune him out and others may take a thing or two away.
Anyway, thanks, Ryan. Watching this made me want to get rid of a bunch of wire stripper duplicates I'll never use, literally I probably have more than a dozen. As well, I think I am going to move some duplicates onto my Hazet Assistant.
I don't use those trays (I cut up peroxide bottles) and foam hasn't ever appealed to me BUT I did get something out of that vid.
Organization has really been a focus for me so of course my ears perk up. It's like I heard a psychologist say at a management professional development course, "In a world filled with information, it makes sense that people filter out what they don't think they need and listen to what they do." So, some folks see this guy's vid and tune him out and others may take a thing or two away.
Anyway, thanks, Ryan. Watching this made me want to get rid of a bunch of wire stripper duplicates I'll never use, literally I probably have more than a dozen. As well, I think I am going to move some duplicates onto my Hazet Assistant.
jeffmoss26
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John is awesome. Super nice guy!
Banjorear
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Exactly. He's not a line mechanic, his boxes get light use.
Personally, I'd much rather have the extra $$$ in my pocket, then my truck driver's wallet.
Loved the video and I liked the fact that he kept saying it's never finished and things can evolve as you're needs change. It was kind if refreshing to look at it not like a static project, but one that is evolving.
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well different horses different courses, trades like plumbing, building etc dont need boxes as they are too bulky that said they could use different boxes or buckets very popular for different items, so everyday plumbing stuff in one box, cement stuff like trovels in another and electrical in another, so i can see the advantage but if there is a large cross over kind of a waste to have several of the same tools
speed bump
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Always interesting to see how people approach organization. I can't say I would document the part where I am almost to the average job shop level organization level though.
As far as ultimate organization
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174553
As far as ultimate organization
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174553
southbend1941
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So I have been a lurker on this site for awhile and never really found the need to comment. However after watching that video I want to know how anyone can possibly have a machine shop and not have one single Kennedy or Gerstner box in the entire shop.
zebrabeefj40
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Having used both Kennedy and Gerstner I find they don't work well for storing tools. Lots of my measuring tools simply don't fit in the drawers. I prefer Lista and similar cabinets to Kennedy and Gerstner. Back "in the day" having Gerstner meant you "made it" in the machine or pattern shop. That isn't the case these days in my experience. It's more important that you can get the job done efficiently and correctly than what color your tool box is...
Nick
blazemaster83
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I have to agree with this^ I have a gerstner 2610 journeymen Tool box and B2705 pro series base and a lot of my measuring tools just don't fit. It's great for smaller tools or tools without a box but it is a pain having tools all around the shop because they don't fit in your tool box. Lista/vidmar, or card file cabinets.
shortykorte
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Well ****, I have to get rid of my dedicated Lista cabinets, Husky and Stack-on rollers and get that one high $$$ box so I am walking back and forth all day. 
Thanks Ryan for posting the video. I always learn something or intrigued with the featured topic. I'm still amazed at the individuals who still don't grasp, "What works for me may not work for you" concept.
Thanks Ryan for posting the video. I always learn something or intrigued with the featured topic. I'm still amazed at the individuals who still don't grasp, "What works for me may not work for you" concept.
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cajunfirehawk
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Cool video and nice shop but I get nauseous when anyone uses the word Kaizen around me
, sorry...Ive been in manufacturing too long...it starts out well but seems to never end that way. 
, sorry...Ive been in manufacturing too long...it starts out well but seems to never end that way. drivesitfar
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I felt the same way and had to click if off after he moved to the second work station to keep from puking or passing out. I'm not sure why either, but some video games used to do that to me.
I always like organizing and of course for me i'd like vintage tools instead of some of the cheap knock offs, but having a couple of those new machines with the skills to use them would be nice.
LegacyIndustrial
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Few comments...
This type of organization is heaven to the senses!!
Takes time but the feeling of zen afterward is priceless.
I went through this in my own space (much smaller scale) and I am more effective now.
Floor is awesome, looks like Med Gray 100% solids, Nite-Fall 1/4" chips with (2) coats of polyaspartic sealer.
So much for " I won't see a nut when it falls". This guy picked a flake floor in a machine shop and it looks like he loves it.
Good content Ryan!!
This type of organization is heaven to the senses!!
Takes time but the feeling of zen afterward is priceless.
I went through this in my own space (much smaller scale) and I am more effective now.
Floor is awesome, looks like Med Gray 100% solids, Nite-Fall 1/4" chips with (2) coats of polyaspartic sealer.
So much for " I won't see a nut when it falls". This guy picked a flake floor in a machine shop and it looks like he loves it.
Good content Ryan!!
