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The Maker Knife: Flawed, But Brilliant

If you follow just about any prominent YouTuber, you’ve seen the Maker Knife. Essentially, it’s a sliding and locking mechanism that allows you to carry a box blade on your person with minimum impact on your pocket’s weight or capacity. A couple of years ago, an Italian named Giacomo Di Muro jump started the idea on KickStarter and the thing just went gangbusters. I was an early supporter of the project and got my first Maker Knife something like two years ago?

In any case, my first Maker Knife was a thing of beauty. It slid open and closed well and locked positively in both positions with no drama to speak of. The experience was pleasurable enough that it opened me up to the idea of carrying a box blade rather than a traditional pocket knife every day. The idea that I no longer had to sharpen a blade (just replace the damned thing) was enough to make me a convert.

But sadly, my first maker knife turned up missing. To do this day, I don’t know what happened to it… but, I was relieved to see that Giaco had ramped up production and was selling them on his website. I ordered four. It took just less than 6 months for me to get them. Technical issues with anodizing and growing pains with Chinese mass production were the culprits. I took it like a man.

The first two, I gave away to pals, one I put in my shop apron, and the last was to be my EDC. The problem came when tuning the mechanism and the lock. I could get them to open and close fine enough, but not lock. Then I could get them to lock securely, but opening/closing action became too stiff. To investigate, I opened up the two Maker Knives I had left.

One of them was so poorly machined that the “blade carrier” appeared to be warped. There was no saving it, so I looked to return it. After a few weeks of dealing with Giaco support, I gave up and threw it into a drawer. Giaco is new to production as well as customer service – this was a gamble on my end and I was aware of this when I placed my order and I’m still okay with it. One of those things…

I moved on to my last knife to see if I could get it workable and for the most part, I have… It opens fine. Closes fine… and the lock works well enough that it rarely opens or closes when I don’t want it too. It did take some massaging though and this was mostly due to poor tolerances in the machining. Still, it doesn’t feel like my early production example. It’s not as smooth and it’s not as reliable.

The thing is though – the design of the product is so smart and so good that I am willing to see past the inconsistencies and use the knife as my every day carry. It’s not made all that well, but I still love the damned thing. I don’t know that I can say that about any other product I’ve ever bought.

But there ya go… Those are my thoughts on the Maker Knife after a couple of years of use and a whole lot of studying. It’s flawed, but brilliant.

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Delivery times I can understand with a new company, but you are more forgiving of quality control issues than I am. If a knife doesn't open, close, and lock reliably then I consider it to have failed in its basic purpose.
 

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I've got the 2 of the 1st generation Maker Knives in silver. I like them & still use them. Had a bit of cosmetic issues on the blade holder on both but I was able to refinish them myself & satisfy me. I shouldn't have needed to but then again it's not a high dollar knife & was made in China.

Then the 2nd gen came out & he offered "upgrade kits" for the 1st gens. So I bought 2 kits. Well not much of an upgrade, I feel like mine worked better with the original 1st gen parts. I also never experienced any of the "issues" that the upgrade kit was suppose to resolve.

I doubt I will buy anything from him again, well not for a while anyway. That is until he gets more experience with production & QC.
 

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Quality issue with a TINY $40 knife is not acceptable. A knife that small, for that price, could be manufactured in America.

Not to mention...You cant even buy one right now...

A China made product at American made prices, with Chinese quality....and you cant even get them...


Gerber makes a small fold out blade holder for about $15.
 
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I'm zero tolerance on knife safety issues, and see no reason to change.

I'd say if you aren't comfortable modding things to make them work correctly, stay way from the Maker Knife.

Like I said, it's a brilliant design that was failed by its manufacturing. If you can get it working yourself, it's amazing... I love it.

Quality issue with a TINY $40 knife is not acceptable. A knife that small, for that price, could be manufactured in America.

Not to mention...You cant even buy one right now...

A China made product at American made prices, with Chinese quality....and you cant even get them...


Gerber makes a small fold out blade holder for about $15.

This was designed in Italy... by an Italian... the first gen knives were made in Italy... the second gen knives were made in China and like I said in the review, my experience has not been great.

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All this being said, if anyone knows of a really pocketable box blade holder - let me know! The typical folder holder you get at a box store is no good for this purpose.
 
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I've got the 2 of the 1st generation Maker Knives in silver. I like them & still use them. Had a bit of cosmetic issues on the blade holder on both but I was able to refinish them myself & satisfy me. I shouldn't have needed to but then again it's not a high dollar knife & was made in China.

Then the 2nd gen came out & he offered "upgrade kits" for the 1st gens. So I bought 2 kits. Well not much of an upgrade, I feel like mine worked better with the original 1st gen parts. I also never experienced any of the "issues" that the upgrade kit was suppose to resolve.

I doubt I will buy anything from him again, well not for a while anyway. That is until he gets more experience with production & QC.

Yeah... Sounds like you had the same experience as me... I hope he gets it figured out.
 

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The 1st gens were made in China too. They were supposed to be made in Italy & was one of the reasons I bought them but they couldn't find a machine shop to meet their needs. They announced production would be moved to China & gave people the option of cancelling their orders if they were not happy about that. He posted videos on his trips to China for his searches on a manufacturer.

IIRC they planned to assemble & ship out of Italy but due to more hiccups they decided to assemble them & ship them from China. Then there was the whole silver anodizing issue which delayed my order even longer as two of the silver is what I ordered. After the 1st batch of silver from the 2nd gen they announced they would never make the silver ones again.
 

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Yeah... Sounds like you had the same experience as me... I hope he gets it figured out.

Yup, pretty much, reread your article again. The blade carriers looked like they were hand finished, mine were all inconsistent. When I refinished mine further is when I found out how inconsistent their tolerances were, or should I say lack there of. The upgrade carriers (from the 2nd gen desgin) seems like they were even more poorly made, at least the ones I received anyway.

Like you I love the design & I like mine, just disappointed in the quality. I expected a bit better.
 

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I really like the the concept . Just not sure how you can have something with that nice Italian styling that probably requires German or Japanese precision manufacturing and sell it for a made in China price.

My nearest tool store has some products from around the globe. Maybe someday they can get the bugs out and sell them through some non online stores
 

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Manufacturability is just as important to good product design as form and function. If the knife can't be made reliably for a reasonable price, it's not a good design.
 
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Manufacturability is just as important to good product design as form and function. If the knife can't be made reliably for a reasonable price, it's not a good design.

This can design can be... it’s just not... and that’s sort of the point.
 
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Too spendy for a box cutter IMO.

It’s sort of a novelty in that there is nothing else on the market like it... other box blades are either too bulky or the blade is too hard to access with one hand.

The gen 2 is def. over priced as you have to work on it to make it function right. But... I’d pay even more for one that was made well. I mean, I use the **** out of mine.
 

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This can design can be... it’s just not... and that’s sort of the point.
I watched a teardown video showing how the mechanisms work. The design doesn't exactly scream "inexpensive to make in low quantities." But maybe they just haven't found the right people. :dunno:
 
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I watched a teardown video showing how the mechanisms work. The design doesn't exactly scream "inexpensive to make in low quantities." But maybe they just haven't found the right people. :dunno:

Right? The design parameters don't match up with the core competencies of Chinese manufacturing.

I think a better play would be to look into German or Swiss manufacturing. He could save on EU import/export taxes, increase the price to $75 (or so) and do lower numbers. I'm sure that would kill his margins... but I think lower margins would be a pretty good trade off given he wouldn't be attaching his name/brand to quality issues any longer.

Ironically, looks like the maker knife sold out yesterday.

Edit: I should say... I've never tried to mass produce anything with this many parts and this level of complexity.... So I am totally talking out of my ***.
 

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Like every "product" I've seen with "maker" in the name, what an overly simplistic design. What's the attraction to these products? These "I took a piece of metal and I did like 5 seconds of machining on it and now I'm trying to sell it to you" products... it's like they have a "less is more" policy when it comes to actually machining a product out of a raw material.
 
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There are plenty of Chinese manufacturers who could make this knife to high quality standards. It's an issue of cost, not COO.

Just spitballing here, but I'd expect to pay closer to $100 for this knife, assuming the people making it are meeting decent quality standards and not losing money.

TuxThePenguin - take a closer look at how the knife works. It's pretty clever and obviously not "I did 5 seconds of machining."
 
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There are plenty of Chinese manufacturers who could make this knife to high quality standards. It's an issue of cost, not COO.

Just spit balling here, but I'd expect to pay closer to $100 for this knife, assuming the people making it are meeting decent quality standards and not losing money.

TuxThePenguin - take a closer look at how the knife works. It's pretty clever.

You are probably right. I have zero experience with such things.. When I disassembled mine and started working on it, I felt like some sort of a low rent Swiss watchmaker...

I do think there is a market for such a thing even at a higher price point. I know of nothing else even close to it on the market.
 

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TuxThePenguin - take a closer look at how the knife works. It's pretty clever and obviously not "I did 5 seconds of machining."

It is a knife. With a blade. That comes out. Which looks like it was machined by a 15-year-old.

I watched a video about it where the guy was talking about adjusting screws, about not wanting it to open in his pocket, and about lubrication.

I can go spend like $3 on a Stanley knife with none of those issues.

Kickstarter seems to be full of products that do the same things as existing products, but worse...
 

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It’s sort of a novelty in that there is nothing else on the market like it...

The gerber EAB is really small, barely bigger than the blade inside. Its also easy to open one handed, and costs like 12-15 bucks on amazon. Simple mechanism
 
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I can go spend like $3 on a Stanley knife with none of those issues.

Yes, you can... but with a completely different use case and functionality. I think maybe you are jumping to conclusions for confirmation bias? Which is fine... You do you.

The gerber EAB is really small, barely bigger than the blade inside. Its also easy to open one handed, and costs like 12-15 bucks on amazon. Simple mechanism

I am gonna order that thing and see. I'm on it!
 
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The gerber EAB is really small, barely bigger than the blade inside. Its also easy to open one handed, and costs like 12-15 bucks on amazon. Simple mechanism

Done. Once I get this thing in the mail, I'll carry it for a few weeks and report back... Should be an interesting comparison to the over-priced, under-built Maker Knife.

Edit: I forgot... Thank you for that!
 
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Yes, you can... but with a completely different use case and functionality. I think maybe you are jumping to conclusions for confirmation bias? Which is fine... You do you.

If it's using the same razor blade as a cheap Stanley knife, then it's not a different use case. Those blades aren't nearly robust enough to serve as an EDC knife. Is this thing intended to replace my Kershaw knives as an EDC? The thought that a razor blade is a robust enough knife is pretty much insulting.

This thing is just trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist, and yet it feels to me like they still found the wrong way to do it.
 
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These are fine for sitting around the shop or in a drawer and pulled out when you need the heft, but I can't imagine carrying one around in my pocket every day. I actually have a small collection of vintage Stanley 199, 299, and *99 utility knives and love them... It's the perfect design in terms of usability and tactility... I just can't carry one in my pocket.
 
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If it's using the same razor blade as a cheap Stanley knife, then it's not a different use case. Those blades aren't nearly robust enough to serve as an EDC knife. Is this thing intended to replace my Kershaw knives as an EDC? The thought that a razor blade is a robust enough knife is pretty much insulting.

This thing is just trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist, and yet it feels to me like they still found the wrong way to do it.

Yeah... So, not your thing. Got it!
 
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In alot of ways this reminds me of the rexford R.U.T. that came out a few years ago: https://www.knifecenter.com/item/RE...center-exclusive-maze-milled-titanium-handles. There are a bunch of knockoffs of this design out there. If u want old school and minimalist (as well as cheap) Then u have this old school style one as well : https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UZHT432/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Yeah... If cost is of no concern, there are actually quite a few options out there. The X-1, for example, is a little cheaper (still $$$) and has a better blade system than the Rexford:

https://resolutetools.com/products/x-1-edc-utility-knife
 

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I have the EAB and I like it. It locks firmly and is nice and small. It also has a bit of weight to it so it doesn’t feel flimsy. You will like it.
 

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I much prefer the older gerber all stainless utility pocket knife, or my older SuperKnife.
The SuperKnife has survived 10 hour days in a cabinet shop and for home repair duty for 10 or so years. Best $30 I ever spent on a blade tool.
 

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I have the EAB, the Rex copy and the screwpop. The EAB is ALWAYS in my jeans coin pocket, and has been for about ten years. It simply gets the job done.
 

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I forgot about my superknives. I have one in every vehicle and toolbox I own, both at work and home. Simple and a little bulky, but they get the job done too. Anyone having boxcutter blade problems...Lenox Gold blades are tough!
 
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