The VISES of Garage Journal

[Andy FitzGibbon]

Must read through that thread.
Made me remember that a guy over hear in the UK was making huge vices too. Wonder how he got on...

Lambco, aka H. R. Lamb & Son in Essex. Making 10" vises that look to be fairly Record-inspired. He updates occasionally on his Instagram account... says there won't be any more after this initial run.

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[Graeme]

That was him, yes.
I was following his work over on the UK mig welding forum, but lost track over the last year/18 months.

 

[tool_scrounge]

Lambco, aka H. R. Lamb & Son in Essex. Making 10" vises that look to be fairly Record-inspired. He updates occasionally on his Instagram account... says there won't be any more after this initial run.

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Any idea of what they sell/sold for?

 

[Ole Slewfoot]

I gather from the commentary in this thread that painting a vise isn't always the best way to go. I suppose I could clean it up a bit, but would prefer not to remove that lovely black patina - no sense in doing that.
What I am curious about though are the jaws - these appear to have once had something of a cross-hatch on them, which is barely visible now even in good light. Are the jaws replaceable on these units?

Looks like each has 2 roll pins from above.
To me, The jaws look in great shape, and you can sharpen the teeth with a triangle file if you want them more aggressive.

There are tons of choices on finish. I'd suggest a once over with wd40, a.stainless hand brush, and maybe a pick. Wipe dry and look at it for awhile.

 

[pachypod]

I'd say that's a fair price. I don't know that I've seen a parker with that kind of swivel lock though. I saw that one yesterday as well, don't worry you're safe from me lol. Parkers seem to be one of the more common brands in our area, besides astronomical wilton bullets. If you tell him you'll take it at full price he may be more inclined to pass on the email offers. That one looks to be in very nice condition, good luck!

P.S. you may want to remove the link to that ad. I know there is at least one vise flipper in our area that is a GJ member.

I'm curious about this also... I have a Parker 205 with that same style swivel lock. I always figured a previous owner just made it when they lost the original, but maybe not? I have 3 different types of lock downs on three 20x series parkers.

Last pic from left to right: typical Parker wrench from my 203, cap style with sliding bar from my 205, different style with the bolt connected to the other side from a 206 I'm restoring (going to make a cap nut sliding bar, it just came with a run of the mill nut)

 

[Andy FitzGibbon]

Any idea of what they sell/sold for?

No, only that in every Instagram post he was complaining about losing his shirt on the project

 

[rikkiT1]

Hello everyone my name is Rikki, im 33 and based out of Herculaneum mo . This is my very first post to any forum of any kind! So without further ado allow me to pop my cherry here with a request for advice and information as well as a little bragging.

Any information is greatly appreciated and welcomed!

Backstory: I went to the local scrap yard , which happens to be at the end of my street! I was shopping for Jems like normal . Found a dirtbike and go kart for the kids , well while dragging the kart across the yard through the mud I stumbled and tripped and was pissed off and embarrassed slightly sat up and looked at what to blame for this and noticed something familiar so I started digging like a dog for a bone and well … this is what I unearthed! Icing on the cake ….

I paid $20.00 bucks for it.

 

[four.cycle]

@Ole Slewfoot -

Thank you, Gentlemen - I am completely out of my league here.
I'll see if there's a break-down of one in one of the threads... see how this beast fits together... patent drawings are not showing me what I want to know.
I guess I'll need to find that set of rollpin punches here if I want to fiddle with the jaws. That may have to wait. More interested in finding something for that swivel screw.

 

[Outlawmws]

while dragging the kart across the yard through the mud I stumbled and tripped and was pissed off and embarrassed slightly sat up and looked at what to blame for this and noticed something familiar so I started digging like a dog for a bone and well … this is what I unearthed!

I paid $20.00 bucks for it.

You dug a Morgan Combo vise out of the dirt... and only paid 20? Yeah, You ****. (High Praise here)

Welcome to the sickness!

 

[va.grouseman]

The jaws are replaceable, Four.cycle, but they are very difficult to machine.---Give KM Scott a PM and he will tell you about making C. Parker jaws.---He machined them for several years until retiring from the work.---It seems that no 2 C. Parker vises of the same model have the same jaw configuration.---It's like they are all custom fitted.---Your jaws are in nice shape, I would just use it for smooth jaw work.

 

[va.grouseman]

RikkiT, that is a real score.---All you lack is making you some pipe jaws for it.---The Morgan combos are fashioned after the Charles Parker design.---It's just amazing what people will toss.

 

[KMScott]

Thanks va, but just so you know I’m gonna make more Parker jaws for several vises I am restoring. Bought a surface grinder and have it on the island. Just making Parker jaws for myself though. If others want to make their own here is a 3 part blog I wrote. https://benchviserestoration.com/2013/11/23/building-the-chas-parker-jaws/

Had fun today where I fit a new set of jaws on this American Scale #53 with 4” jaws. As most know they had a hard time in their factory setting jaws the correct way and this one was out .027 from closing parallel. They are perfect now, just having a ball being retired.

 

[mikeinri]

So what needs updating Mike? I might have missed something.

I haven't seen the spreadsheet, but I thought there was uncertainty over whether that model was real.

None of the few catalogs I have show a #25 one has a 25x an improved swivel vise. Possibly the "X" on yours was knocked off. There is a listing for a #25 on the spreadsheet with I think is a misidentified #24.
Possibly someone else has history or a listing for it.

akasrick

Model 25 is part of the series of 19 - 26. 23 - 26 did not have the cast steel anvil on the back. In 1876 the catalog only went to 24. In 1883 it went to 26. Here is an 1883 catalog page of it. The 25X version did not show up until 1900 according to the catalog pages I have. Cool !

Sorry if I misunderstood the message.

Mike

 

[va.grouseman]

KMS, I love those RED SEALS.---I bought an A. S. #25 from Autopts several years ago but it's a plain #25.---It's a nice one but I sure wished it was a RED SEAL 25.

 

[Jayman17]

I didn't want to fight the collectors for some old junk so I plunked down some coin. It's big. Ridiculously big. Pretty happy with it.











Stand is 5/8" plate with 1" and 1/2" rebar. Held down with 1/2x6" titan HD anchors. I still need to cut off the old dome head bolts and put some black oxide nuts on there.

That vise and stand combo looks great!

 

[Outlawmws]

I love those RED SEALS.

I'm also a fan., I have a 3" #61 RS, and a 6" #66,; the 66 is a brute

 

[FourthQuarter]

Hello everyone my name is Rikki

I paid $20.00 bucks for it.

Welcome. You ****.

Be careful around here. I started a year ago and am up to 13 vises. Accumulating faster than can fix 'em up. I want a Morgan.

I have no idea what to do with all these vises.

 

[KMScott]

KMS, I love those RED SEALS.---I bought an A. S. #25 from Autopts several years ago but it's a plain #25.---It's a nice one but I sure wished it was a RED SEAL 25.

I'm also a fan., I have a 3" #61 RS, and a 6" #66,; the 66 is a brute

The Red Seals are defiantly heavier vises. This is my third to work on. My fourth one was the 58 model, 8” jaws and that went to Royce in Fairbanks. He had a ball restoring this. Big guy. here is some pics Of my 58, 55 and 53.

 

[F-22]

Yesterday I was in a local hardware store here in Slovenia. It was an odd private store which are kind of rare (e.g. not a big name like Bauhaus or Obi which are otherwise very common...). I was quite surprised to have seen brand new "NIV" vises for sale, made here in Slovenia in a city called Černomelj. Pretty interesting they still make these. It's old-school heavy duty continental Europe/German style vise, similar to Leinen or Schlegel EMF or Gressel.
~300€ seems pretty good for a 150mm wide vise. I think that's about 250€ without the VAT (if you buy as a company, you don't pay VAT). I have no idea if these are nodular/ductile steel, there's no info online but I wouldn't be surprised if they were.





Didn't pull them off the shelf just to take a good photo. But here's how a classic one looks:


I found the manufacturers website but not much extra info on the vise. They also make a swivel type vise. Despite the hammered-look paint, based on how it looks I'm pretty sure these are fully machined from billet steel. Looks like a proper alternative to the chinese offerings (though only 80mm wide, seems like a locksmith vise...). Maybe they'd make larger ones if I'd contact them.

Some photos from the website

Pretty happy to know there's still some decent manufacturing made here. There were 200€ 150mm chinese vises next to it, and the quality difference is obvious. I love these NIV ones are still made in the traditional rounded casts, not some angular modern design!

 

[Willy Wilson]

Got a Hollands Keystone BC.

 

[poppinjohnnies]

I was having issues with my little Wilton 4” on my steel workbench, so I pulled it and mounted a 5” Wilton that I picked up a couple of years ago for $10 at a yard sale. It is working great!

 

[ViceRoy2030]

Here's my early Hollands 26 resto, still need to work on the swivel handles and main handle. Another GJ inmate is creating the main handle for me and I'll post pic's once thats complete. I'm contemplating a clear coat, what do you think???


It's lived a hard life but what an amazing vise she is!!!

Here's the new handle from Alex Zariczny

 

[Vwpower]

Here’s a couple of my original paint Reeds. The 1c is not in service lol

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

Wow tough act to follow with those reeds! I picked up this Zylss clone today. I can’t tell if it’s complete or not minus the jaw cover. I don’t think the little c clamp is part of it either? It’s marked “work shops”. Any info on this one is appreciated.

 

[RTM]

C clamp is a tire patch vulcanizer.

Work shops Vunder Vise.

Googling that should find you bunches.

 

[FullRaceMerc]

C clamp is a tire patch vulcanizer.

x2

 

[dbovair]

Update on the hollands 46
I was having trouble getting it to stay in place while I was beating on it. Decided to take it to work and hold it down with the forklift.
Got it unstuck with the mix of acetone and atf you guys suggested and a lot of hammering

 

[four.cycle]

I don’t think the little c clamp is part of it either?

That resembles somewhat the "Shaler" patch vulcanizer, although yours does not appear to be marked. There were a good number of imitators after Shaler's patent expired (and even before.)

Shaler thread

Shaler information posted HERE

-bk

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

That resembles somewhat the "Shaler" patch vulcanizer, although yours does not appear to be marked. There were a good number of imitators after Shaler's patent expired (and even before.)

Shaler thread

Shaler information posted HERE

-bk

Interesting, thanks everyone! This one is not marked at all. I should have known GJ could identify it in no time!

 

[bl00]

Anyone know what this is?

 

[Shiftless]

I’m betting DIY shop made. But I have been wrong in the past.

 

[va.grouseman]

B100, kinda looks like shop made with the welds, and looks like regular thread-all for the main screw.---Looks plenty stout though.

 

[neophyte]

Anyone know what this is?

My first guess would be Russian or other Soviet production based on the aesthetics and vonstruction, but that is just a wild guess.

 

[Outlawmws]

I picked up a "Wards Deluxe Quality" Anvil vise this am; Homeowner's construction for the main screw and slide, the slide is riveted in place which is a first for me. 3-1/2" jaws, flat replaceable jaw plates, (Phillips head screws interestingly) 5" opening, the 3 pipe jaws (all present) are removable/replaceable, so like a combination vise that way. 17-3/4 lbs.

I'd class it a couple of cuts above the average exposed screw Homeowners vise. Of course the anvil is really an "Anvil shaped object" but for light hobby use (soft metals, thin bits of iron/steel, brass rivets, and the like, its fine. I'm thinking I'l clean it up mount it to a foot or 16" or 2X6, and C-clamp it when I need it for portable use. We do a lit of lantern/stove work on the Coleman camp outs. This would be a good one for that. $15 was more than I've paid for any homeowner's vise, but I don't think I got stung.

Casting marks are V111 adn V112 - Anyone know who made these for Wards adn When?

@KMScott - is this one for the Spreadsheet?

 

[BSWS]

Here's my first attempt at restoring something I didn't even know I needed until I started reading this forum. A few months ago it was just the old black vice on my dad's workbench, today I recognize it as an old Parker 271 that needs to be cleaned up. I learned a lot about it from these threads but I haven't found any pictures of any exactly like it. It doesn't use the "brake drum" style swivel lock, instead it's a bolt from the bottom. You'll also notice that the small disc that mounts it to the bench doesn't have any exposed lugs for bolts. The disc bolts down, then the vise is held by the large bolt underneath. I believe that the 2 holes drilled through the base were done by dad, or a previous owner, to lock it in place. With very limited metal working tools I made a new taper pin that isn't exact, but I like the looks of it. After reading many arguments I decided to paint it anyway, I can always remove the paint if I get bored.

 

[moorett]

Here’s a couple of my original paint Reeds. The 1c is not in service lol

2 great looking original vises. Love it.

 

[Outlawmws]

It was common on the center bolt through the bench swivelers to have a drop pin through, to lock it in the normal position and often for 30-45-60- 90 degree positions and the like.

 

[General Geoff]

Lambco, aka H. R. Lamb & Son in Essex. Making 10" vises that look to be fairly Record-inspired. He updates occasionally on his Instagram account... says there won't be any more after this initial run.

Would love to know if anyone here has a claim to one of these monsters, and if so, what the ballpark price is and/or will be. I'm guessing ~$5,000 US if he doesn't want to bankrupt himself

 

[moorett]

Hello everyone my name is Rikki, im 33 and based out of Herculaneum mo . This is my very first post to any forum of any kind! So without further ado allow me to pop my cherry here with a request for advice and information as well as a little bragging.

Any information is greatly appreciated and welcomed!

Backstory: I went to the local scrap yard , which happens to be at the end of my street! I was shopping for Jems like normal . Found a dirtbike and go kart for the kids , well while dragging the kart across the yard through the mud I stumbled and tripped and was pissed off and embarrassed slightly sat up and looked at what to blame for this and noticed something familiar so I started digging like a dog for a bone and well … this is what I unearthed! Icing on the cake ….

I paid $20.00 bucks for it.

I wanna believe it. Surely you have a pic of it just poking out of the dirt. I can hear it now…”don’t trip over me, please somebody help me, take me home, I still got life, save me and tell all your buddies, post it on a forum”. Pics please

 

[Lesserstore]

I got this Reed No. 23 1/2 Utility Vise along with a Desmond-Stephan No. 400 Utility Vise I posted a few weeks ago for $35. This one had its base welded to a steel plate so I didn't take as much care as I did with the DS. I painted it with Krylon matte vintage gray which at first sprayed this sandy texture for some reason which I wouldn't have minded if it kept doing that but it smoothed out. Like I said it's a welded vise so I'm not going to waste time redoing it. The date stamp is August 1977.