Uh, faster wound healing? Keeping out infection? (I am not a doctor, just an nose-picking layman.)
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Uh, faster wound healing? Keeping out infection? (I am not a doctor, just an nose-picking layman.)
Ay yi yi yi yi!
Here's a tale of two different genetic inheritances, and/or maybe different drinking water. My English-American grandmother had complete dentures by the time she was in her 50's. My other grandmother got her fist cavity when she was 76 or so.
I think they both got luckier than you!
The genetic story continued: one sibling of mine had a cavity detected with every trip to the dentist as a teen, I had only a few, while being a sugar-gobbling goblin and now that the coast is clear, and the statute of limitations is up, I didn't brush my teeth much in those days. (Did get fluoride treatments at the vet, though, but so did that sibling.)
@Squankum, you may be right. The surgeons who stitched my scalp back on did wrap the top of my head with a bandage. The plastic surgeon covered the right side of my face and my chin with more bandages. The only thing not under a bandage was my left eye. Not having a mirror, I had no idea how I looked. The second thing Liane said to me was "I don't like the look of that eye" because it was the only thing she could see and all its blood vessels were broken so it was bright red with a blue iris. First thing she said was "You're not getting out of painting the house this easy!"
On the third or fourth day the plastic surgeon removed his bandages and was surprised the wound was already healing across the outer stitches. At the moment, there are seven holes in my mouth that are stitched closed with one stitch each. I'm taking three 500mg Amoxicillin tablets and rinsing twice a day with antiseptic mouthwash. But what do I know, I'm just a nose-picker as well,
Some of it is genetics. My mother had dental problems her whole life so I probably inherited that. Some is environment. When she was pregnant with me, living in Douglas, Arizona, my mother drank nothing but bottled water. Someone told her the municipal well water had a lot of fluoride in it and that would cause mottled teeth in her baby. Some is shady dentists. Like your sibling, the dentist I visited once a year in the 1950s found ONE cavity on each visit. Never had two but he always found one.
When Liane was pregnant she took a fancy maternity vitamin daily. Our daughter had her first cavity when she was 58.
86turbodsl
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Congrats Bob!
jon72vega
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Congrats Great-Grandpa!While I was having my teeth pulled, Great Grandson Skyler Anthony was also being pulled. This is great grand baby #5 plus a 13 year-old step great grand daugther.
Here's a tale of possible dental fraud:
That test where the doc pushes down into your teeth with the dental pic, looking for softness? I had a buddy who alleged that as a child, his family dentist was doing that hard, and they got a lot of cavities - then they changed dentists and the cavities stopped.
kaymccampbell
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My first dentist would stab my gums, then fill a cavity. In all these decades I've never changed my cleaning routine, and after I got away from him I never had a cavity. However I did have leaky **** fillings from him, that I had ground out and replaced with composite.
I probably went 15-20 years without a cavity as a younger adult (and still hadn't gotten religion about regularity of brushing, or flossing)... when i got a cavity. I had no idea what they were doing in there! It appeared to be epoxy. Laser beams may have been involved, too. There were chemical smells. It all kinda stressed me out, as they explained nothing -- and why would they? It was a normal day for them. They probably hadn't thought of it from my perspective. (I think at the time I also had the soft-talker dentist who, when she was talking to you, sounded like Beaker was talking two rooms down the hall, thoroughly muffled by the dental machinery noises.)
Wiz02
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Great metaphor or is it a simile, my soft spoken wife invariably says something at the exact moment when I pull the trigger on a noisemaker of one sort or another.
The dentist was indeed using a uv cured epoxy. I asked him all about it as he had one foot out the door on his way to his next victim / patient.
Lyndon
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Bob
Congrats on Great Grand number 6. Cool name too - Skyler.
Lyndon
Congrats on Great Grand number 6. Cool name too - Skyler.
Lyndon
LeonardY
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This awesome news on the new grandson! Congratulations!
PugetDude
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Congrats on the great-grandson. Cool name!
Must be something in the water, my niece dropped 7.5# twins this AM.
Must be something in the water, my niece dropped 7.5# twins this AM.
Congrats on the addition to the family! All involved being healthy is as good as gift as it comes. Here's to you and your continued dental healing....I'm about half way into my healing from the implant placement...still fun to intentionally hop on work calls with video on and my fake tooth not in place and have a big gap where a front tooth(#8 for dental folks) should be and watch the other people try and figure out what's going on!
madison069
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Congrats on the addition! How far away does the new addition I’ve from you?
drivesitfar
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How’s Bob H version 2023 doing today? That’s some story that was a bit hard to follow about your teeth and I hope you found a good solution to last another 10-20 years or more now. Feeling ok?
I just had lunch with a retired local dentist and he highly recommended a local hygienist so I’m hoping I can find a good replacement for the dentist I had that retired.
Have a great weekend and congrats on the new Heine!! Skylar is a cool name!!
I just had lunch with a retired local dentist and he highly recommended a local hygienist so I’m hoping I can find a good replacement for the dentist I had that retired.
Have a great weekend and congrats on the new Heine!! Skylar is a cool name!!
Grizz1963
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Just saw this Bob, congratulations to you both.
Now the fun starts.
Now the fun starts.
@86turbodsl and @jon72vega, thank you!
@Squankum and @kaymccampbell, I can't help but think some of these dentists shared their money-making secrets at dental conventions.
@Squankum, before all the crowns and bridgework, my fillings were all amalgam, made of two nearly equal parts:
- Liquid mercury
- A powder containing silver, tin, copper, zinc and other metals
@Wiz02, I suspect Liane has lost a bit of her hearing. When I'm watching something in the kitchen while preparing dinner I keep the volume at 30. Liane walks in the kitchen and turns the volume up to 70. Then she says something while facing the TV so I rarely hear her. That's when she asks me if I need hearing aids.
Thank you Lyndon! I felt really blessed to see 9 grandchildren grow up into full-size people. This is over the top!
Leonard, family photos may require a panoramic lens or stitching program for multiple shots. I'm not ready for videos.
Scott, thank you and that's an amazing pair of grand nieces/nephews. Liane told her doctor "If it's more than 7 pounds, take it out in pieces."
Logan, I don't envy you. The implant process is a long one. I spent almost a year getting fitted for the last round-house bridge. For the proposed new bridge, they were talking six months for the implants and bone grafts to settle and then another month getting the new bridge trial-fitted a few times.
My head felt like a bad sinus cold when I bent over and when I blew my nose, a few blood clots came out of my sinus cavity on the left side. Both eye pouches appear bruised but the mouth itself is healing up quickly.
Cody, Skyler lives 42 miles from us. All six are within 50 miles.
Drives, I'm feeling fine aside from the bending over thing. My doctors and dentist are approaching retirement age but the dentist and his dentist wife have two dentist sons so I may not need to go shopping for a replacement dentist for a while.
Rian, the best part of being great grandparents is having grandparent children picking up the slack. No one calls us to watch the babies. We just cuddle them at family gatherings and return the bio-hazards to the next in line.
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A former grade school/high school classmate was a very successful dentist. Retired, sold her practice, and now she has a consulting business on how to grow your practice and the most profitable routes to get there. She was doing the consulting while she ran her practice as well.
Roger, thanks for confirming my suspicion. When my dentist gave me a treatment plan for that bridge years ago, I looked it over and saw "Gold PFM." When I asked, he explained it was a gold crown covered with porcelain (PFM - Porcelain Fused Metal). When I asked about alternatives, he suggested I would want 'only the best.' I responded that my teeth shouldn't encourage my demise and had the plan changed to slightly less expensive Noble metal alloy. "Semi-precious metal alloys or noble alloys have at least 25% noble metal [gold, platinum, or palladium] and may include tin, zinc, indium, cobalt, ruthenium or gallium."
Dentistry in the US has two cost options: a fortune or a small fortune.
Vette60
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@Bob Heine - yep. You got that right. I still sometimes kick myself for not listening to my Dad when he was encouraging a career path as an orthodontist. I'm a Mechanical Engineer by degree. I saw it in HS when I had braces and then again first hand when my kids were going as well - it seemed like every kid in the school was at the orthodontist office. Cha-ching, Cha-ching, Cha-ching.
bulletpruf
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I've never had a cavity. Mom claims credit for that because she took maternity vitamins when she was pregnant with me.
I've posted this before....
Read somewhere that if you want to help people, become a doctor. If you want to be rich, become a dentist.
PugetDude
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I grew up on fluoridated water in Dayton during the 1960's; didn't get my first cavity until I was in my late 30's.
My mom's maternity vitamins were Salem cigarettes...and she took a lot of them.
Dan in Pasadena
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Dammit Bob, do you HAVE to suffer EVERY kind of physical pain there is?!
I officially nominate THE two toughest sumbitches (in the nicest possible way) I've ever heard of: Bob and the young guy that had to cut off his own arm after getting it caught between two rocks while climbing alone.
Seriously, Bob you have undergone every kind of physical thing possible and survived them all. I'm kinda wondering how long you'd have lived if you hadn't had to spend so much healing on your train accident? That had to drain 80 or 90% of even the toughest people's ability to heal.
Take care buddy and I also offer my congratulations on the birth of a new family member. Beautiful name.
I officially nominate THE two toughest sumbitches (in the nicest possible way) I've ever heard of: Bob and the young guy that had to cut off his own arm after getting it caught between two rocks while climbing alone.
Seriously, Bob you have undergone every kind of physical thing possible and survived them all. I'm kinda wondering how long you'd have lived if you hadn't had to spend so much healing on your train accident? That had to drain 80 or 90% of even the toughest people's ability to heal.
Take care buddy and I also offer my congratulations on the birth of a new family member. Beautiful name.
@Vette60, our daughter needed braces and although part of the cost was covered by dental insurance, it determined how worn out of a used Corvette I got.
Scott, I believe your mother was right.
Roger, you're right and part of it is the rarity of dental insurance. Our plan was pretty good but when a root canal had to be re-done it wasn't covered. They insure your tooth for one expensive procedure and then it's on you.
Scott, I suspect the fluoridated water helped but I bet one of your parents had good teeth. Back then, Salem and Virginia Slim vitamins were quite popular. Some mothers switched from Screwdrivers to Mimosas for their health drinks as well. Don't forget Mother's Little Helper.
Dan, it might be the other way around. Like Nietzsche said, "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger." I also think your pain tolerance improves when frequently tested. Something about blacking out or seeing stars lets you know you're approaching your limit.
I love great grandchildren even more than grandchildren. As soon as one starts crying or making a fuss, a parent or grandparent steps in to fix the problem. The parents also seem reluctant to even ask us to babysit. I guess we look that fragile to them.
I have an unexpected side effect from the extractions. When the train hit me in the face it broke my nose and pushed some teeth into my sinuses. I was getting sinus colds all the time. Eventually had surgery on the right sinus cavity to open it up and seal the punctures, along with straightening the double deviated septum. The damage to the left sinus was much less severe and it was left alone. With the last four teeth on the left side removed, a passage from my mouth to my sinus has opened up. I believe it's called an oro-antral fistula and is quite common with long rooted teeth.
I discovered the fistula yesterday when my sinuses felt like they were going to explode. A little pressure with my mouth closed made a hissing/bubbling sound in my left nostril. It also produced an unexpected flood of tan fluid from that nostril. The passageway allowed me to push some antiseptic mouthwash through the fistula, which seems to have helped. I also increased the frequency of the Amoxacillin so I need a refill. Looks like another visit to the dentist.
I discovered the fistula yesterday when my sinuses felt like they were going to explode. A little pressure with my mouth closed made a hissing/bubbling sound in my left nostril. It also produced an unexpected flood of tan fluid from that nostril. The passageway allowed me to push some antiseptic mouthwash through the fistula, which seems to have helped. I also increased the frequency of the Amoxacillin so I need a refill. Looks like another visit to the dentist.
RickP
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Bummer about your extractions and sinus infection/fistula problems. I never realized they were related until I had an upper molar pulled and implant inserted, then had to deal with a low-grade sinus headache for the next month. Nothing compared to what you've gone through!
I hope your next dental visit is a bit easier on you.
I hope your next dental visit is a bit easier on you.
madison069
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A little jb Weld will fix that hole!
Well, hopefully it's something that can be fixed easily.
Well, hopefully it's something that can be fixed easily.
GeddyT
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Oro-**** fistula!? Bob, this is a family friendly site!
casmurbax
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Geesh Bob that's terrible.
Curious have you sneezed yet?
What's next on the ailments? Hopefully nothing.
Hope all is well otherwise.
Curious have you sneezed yet?
What's next on the ailments? Hopefully nothing.
Hope all is well otherwise.
gearhead1960
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Bob,
When the time comes (hopefully not too soon), Lianne needs to get the highest amount ($$$) she can, when she sells your body to science, because they are going want to examine you......
When the time comes (hopefully not too soon), Lianne needs to get the highest amount ($$$) she can, when she sells your body to science, because they are going want to examine you......
Rick, I had a fistula from a root canal. It showed up as a painful pimple on the side of my chin. When it broke it didn't feel right so I went to the doctor. Doctor sent me to the dentist to get a do-over on the root canal. Luckily it was in the lower jaw so it was just a leaky mess for a week or so.
Made an appointment with the dentist for 4:00 this afternoon. Chilling out until then.
Cody, I kinda like the hole. I can't whistle with the new bridge but the noise from the passageway is cute.
Tom, I was very careful to cut and paste the term. I would really really hate a connection like that term describes.
John, thankfully I haven't sneezed in the past week. I did that the day after my first upper removable bridge and first artificial arm were delivered in 1965. Family came to our house to visit and my father was sitting opposite me in the living room. I sneezed, which caused me to flex my back, causing the hook to come flying up from my lap and stopping right in front of my chin. Because I sneezed with an open mouth, the teeth went flying across the room and landed in my father's lap. Wish I had a photo of that moment -- mirror images of the same surprised look.
The instructions provided by the oral surgeon included: "If you have had Sinus Elevation Surgery, please refrain from blowing your nose for 1 week. If you sneeze, open your mouth to relieve pressure during the sneeze. Use Nasal Spray for 1 week." I know, what the hell is sinus elevation surgery? Turns out it looks like this and I didn't have that done so it isn't a concern.
Next on my list is another PSA test along with a higher precision scan of my abdomen.
Today was Liane's day. She used one of those Cologuard tests and it came back positive so this morning she visited our colorectal surgeon and is scheduled for a colonoscopy this coming Friday. While there I got scheduled for mine in late September. Next stop was a visit to my Urology/Oncology doctor to go over Liane's CAT scan. Because she smokes half a pack a day, our primary care doctor sends her in for the scan instead of a simple X-ray. The small nodules in her lungs have not grown in the past 5 years but this year a tumor showed up in her right kidney. The tumor went from nothing to a 2.9cm mass in less than 2 years so it has to be taken care of. She's scheduled for robotic surgery in October.
Mark, it's going to be a tossup. She's been smoking a half pack of cigarettes a day for the past 65 years and yet every time they put a pulsometer on her finger it reads 98% O2.Bob,
When the time comes (hopefully not too soon), Lianne needs to get the highest amount ($$$) she can, when she sells your body to science, because they are going want to examine you......
shortykorte
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Congrats on the new baby.
I guess a GJFC meet up this weekend with ribs and corn on the cob is out of the question.
I guess a GJFC meet up this weekend with ribs and corn on the cob is out of the question.
Maybe it's the power tools? The amateur one-handed lumberjack work with pole saws?
Oh, please, such savagery! RTV blue.
Fred, it's the bonus years. Having misspent several of my youths (I reset my imagined age every 18 years) so survival past the 'average' is a pleasant surprise.
Shorty, thank you -- so far I've only been an interested observer with this generation.Congrats on the new baby.
I guess a GJFC meet up this weekend with ribs and corn on the cob is out of the question.
Hey, as long as there's a blender available, I'll be fine.
Roger, thanks for the encouragement. I wish I could do something to reduce Liane's anxiety. She starts worrying long before test results come back, worries about the additional tests and then worries about the actual event. Rarely in any sequence. At the same time she worries about me.
@Squankum, it may also be the level of child-proofing at out house. I believe it's considered less than none, starting with the swimming pool, outlets, kitchen cabinets and attractive collection of poisons in every room that we keep in easy reach.
I've been taking 875 mg amoxicillin horse pills twice a day since Monday. Feels like one of them got stuck in the fistula hole because I can't blow bubbles out my nose from my mouth anymore. Dentist thinks it's healing up.
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In the past two weeks, including tomorrow, Liane and I have had 14 doctor/dentist/hospital appointments. In addition to the 4 weekend days off we've had 3 appointment-free days. Probably involved 20 miles of driving as well.