2024 Garage Sale Thread (13th Annual)

[Smokeshow69]

Saukit ***** for that nice haul!

 

[alinc100]

2 stops today one was a garage sale listed on FBM, the other a TOO on the way home. I set out on the first one due to the Woods suction suction cup as we use them very often at work and the price was right. The TOO yeilded the (mostly) Proto 1/2" drive socket set,ratchet and misc for the same price as I got the suction cup.
EDIT TO ADD SOCKET INVENTORY:
FBM 08/25/24
1/2 ” drive

PROTO 1”,1-1/8”,1-1/8” 12 pt shallow
PROTO 15/16” 12 pt deep
POWRKRAFT 1-1/16” 12 pt shallow
S-K 3/4” 12pt shallow
CRAFTSMAN 1-1/16” 12 pt deep
CRAFTSMAN 11/16”,13/16”,7/8”,15/16” 12 pt shallow
CRAFTSMAN 15/16” 6 point shallow Impact
3/8” drive

CRAFTSMAN 5/8”,11/16”,3/4” 12 pt shallow

 

[zanyad]

@SC Fly Guy nice score on the machinist box with tools! I have one of those Mitutoyo dial depth gages at work. It's a very useful tool.

 

[scoob511]

@Outlawmws : Those Gerbers don't have folding pliers. The pliers retract into the handles. Push both the little buttons on the handles and pull them back.

One of the better MT designs, IMO, but I don't find much use for MTs.

I got one years ago as a groomsman’s gift, and it currently lives in my son’s hockey equipment bag. It’s perfect for that kind of thing, or a glove compartment.

 

[Old Radar]

***** to Squez, Outlaw, and saukit.

+1 more!
***** also to @SC Fly Guy & @Stubby1743

 

[brockmub]

@SC Fly Guy ***** for the contents of that box.

 

[Patrickm82]

4 stops yesterday and 1 estate sale this morning. Only 2 of the stops produced.

First was a blue point KRW148B for $25 and the tools for $25
Blue point, Bonney, SK and new Britain wrenches
Williams adjustable
Craftsman V 1/4 drive and husky US 3/8 drive sockets
Blue point air pressure gauge
A cool old tubing cutter no name
Long C craftsman ball pein
Bag of tiny zip ty’s
And $.70



Next was stop 4 , a Kennedy 220 with tools for $30
A Fiskar hollow handle hatchet
Craftsman prof. multi tool
Craftsman EE and G, SK sockets
Craftsman nut splitter
Truecraft 5/8 saltus wrench
2 V wrenches
Crescent 6” adjustable
New Brunswick “never slip” linesman’s with replaceable cutters
Elkind folding screwdrivers
And some junk




And finally the estate sale this morning. $15 for everything

8 snap on wobble extensions
Snap on 7/8 6 point 3/8 drive
Snap on 9/16 6 point 1/4 drive
Snap on straight blade driver
Craftsman prof. #2 phillips
3/8 drive SK 6 point sockets
1/4 proto ratchet
3/8 fine tooth craftsman ratchet
SK 6 point 7/16 wrench
Small pair of Bernards
Klein knife
And finally a no name awl w/ a nice wood handle

 

[brockmub]

Brother lined up some picks and we were able to come home with some things. First off a stop at the local electrical repair shop produced some nice cans and a tachometer. The yellow oiler has advertising on it but it’s difficult to clean and easy to wipe the stamping off.

Next stop was a sweet window and ornate door for $40.




Then stopped by a place that had a few items in a garage that was going to get torn down. Everything inside had water damage, had to leave a lot of rusty toys and a large beaten vise behind. However I did notice an interesting box on a table in the corner. This is what was under the box that basically disintegrated…




It’s a “scientific” vacuum bell that looks like it was built into this table. The box had a light in it so you could maybe safely observe what was happening in jar. There’s a connection under the table where you would hook up the hose. The table is made with brass screws, kinda nice if it wouldn’t be for all of the water damage. The bell is made by Pyrex and the second one I’ve found in two years. The owner didn’t have backstory to it other than he cleaned out some rental property and this was there.

 

[brockmub]

@Patrickm82 *****

 

[SC Fly Guy]

4 stops yesterday and 1 estate sale this morning. Only 2 of the stops produced.

First was a blue point KRW148B for $25 and the tools for $25
Blue point, Bonney, SK and new Britain wrenches
Williams adjustable
Craftsman V 1/4 drive and husky US 3/8 drive sockets
Blue point air pressure gauge
A cool old tubing cutter no name
Long C craftsman ball pein
Bag of tiny zip ty’s
And $.70



Next was stop 4 , a Kennedy 220 with tools for $30
A Fiskar hollow handle hatchet
Craftsman prof. multi tool
Craftsman EE and G, SK sockets
Craftsman nut splitter
Truecraft 5/8 saltus wrench
2 V wrenches
Crescent 6” adjustable
New Brunswick “never slip” linesman’s with replaceable cutters
Elkind folding screwdrivers
And some junk




And finally the estate sale this morning. $15 for everything

8 snap on wobble extensions
Snap on 7/8 6 point 3/8 drive
Snap on 9/16 6 point 1/4 drive
Snap on straight blade driver
Craftsman prof. #2 phillips
3/8 drive SK 6 point sockets
1/4 proto ratchet
3/8 fine tooth craftsman ratchet
SK 6 point 7/16 wrench
Small pair of Bernards
Klein knife
And finally a no name awl w/ a nice wood handle

A truly **** worthy haul.

 

[Outlawmws]

blue point KRW148B for $25 and the tools for $25

Just the beginning of the suckage on this haul!

Next stop was a sweet window and ornate door for $40.

Another suckworthey haul!

 

[bmwrd0]

I hit a few sales on Saturday, the first being a clear out of a scrappers yard:

Here I found a Handi-Andi plumbers screw kit, P&C breaker, chain vise grip, Disston file handle, Bonney universal, Proto DBE, Craftsman extension, Stanley push drill, and Plomb 3/4" socket. All that for $10. In the right corner are a Cornwell driver and unmarked knurling tool, also for $10, and they came from a used tool shop.


a Walker Turner fractional motor, I am guessing 1/2HP. I need to rewire it to give it a test, but at most I am out $3.


I also stopped by one of the better (in my eyes) thrift stores, and picked up this copy of Last of the Mohicans from 1927, for $3.50

 

[Outlawmws]

I went back and near doubled my foot traffic "mileage" from yesterday well over 5 miles and 40 "heart points" my Phone tells me...

Still pretty slow picking compared to past years:

First pic was the top driver with the Brass/Nickel ferrule - A Winchester driver. -$3! I didn't read the inscription until after I got home - so my instincts were good!, then the Proto #2 Phillips for $2 -missing the typical blue stripe in the groove - anyone know about that? The rest were from one stop, $6 for 3 of 4 Armstrong mini DBE's, old BluePoint (Snap-On) and Plvmb DBE's, Rigid 6" Pipe wrench, carpenters pencil and a metric of all things, wood/brass "Executive" caliper by Viking? new to me!




An Everdry Match Safe -with matches!, $10; 0.25c for the wood thread spools, that should work out to fix the pump from yesterday (Shown) if I cannot find a vintage one - the pump wot=rks great other than that!; 0.50c for the 12 ft Stanley tape. one jsut like it went MIA yesterday, but not at this stop...; and the old Pinewood derby car - the wheels will be worth the $5 if they are the same as my old PW derby car I made, as its wheels crumbled.




A buck for the purple Pyrex baking tray; my second in just a few weeks. One of them will go to the older daughter who loves purple.




A buck for this wood instrument box, the left hinge area of the lid split; I have that glued and clamped now. Likely going to become a utensils box for camping as it's the right width. It's a decent finger jointed box.






And last was these 2 old local racing programs; and a 2" *********** clamp for $10. one program is the 1998 "hall of fame inductees" program and Mike Sargent - Who I pitted for in my second year - was inducted to join his father, Marshal.

 

[jb books]

Some of my finds this weekend. Matco intermediate box, Pair of American Optical Vietnam era Pilot sunglasses, pair of old Ray Ban Aviators, and a 4 inch adjustable only marked Tool Steel, a Roto Ratchet made here in Heber Utah. Couldn't find any of the sockets.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Pair of American Optical Vietnam era Pilot sunglasses, pair of old Ray Ban Aviators,

Very nice finds!

...a 4 inch adjustable only marked Tool-Steel,

Mark DROP-FORGED on the flip side. I have one just like it. I have tried to talk myself into it being Utica, due to the hanging hole and that little bit of a pad pattern inside the handle where it's marked, which they had a design propensity for. At other times I was thinking German import. EDIT: But German imports usually have a capacity marking, too. Such as 1/4"-4.

 

[RTM]

4 inch adjustable only marked Tool Steel,

have one just like it. I have tried to talk myself into it being Utica, due to the hanging hole and that little bit of a pad pattern inside the handle where it's marked, which they had a design propensity for. At other times I was thinking German import.

Wasn't Tool Steel an early Diamond Calk mark on adjustable wrenches? I thought that it indicated their earlier stuff. Did they private label without their name? I don't have enough knowledge to compare features, and am away from mine right now, way too hard to do on the phone.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Maybe. IDK. I'm not a big Diamond fan/aficionado. The marking is actually "TOOL-STEEL", with a hyphen, if it matters. Here's a shot of all my 4-inchers. And two others with a closer-up of the unit @jb books just picked up, front and back. I wish we could identify it together or with help. I've had it for a minute and it still bugs me. There's also a small, odd "C-I" marking.

 

[SC Fly Guy]

Maybe. IDK. I'm not a big Diamond fan/aficionado. The marking is actually "TOOL-STEEL", with a hyphen, if it matters. Here's a shot of all my 4-inchers. And two others with a closer-up of the unit @jb books just picked up, front and back.

Sweet collection!!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Sweet collection!!

Thank you, sir! 5 J.P. Danielson, 4 Crescent, 3 Diamond, 1 German, 1 TBD, and 1 Utica and counting!

Quick story, but fitting for the thread. When I first started hitting the fleas pretty regularly for tools, about 15 years ago or so, there was a guy with a bunch of 4-inchers on a wire, just like a stringer of fish. Probably a dozen or so (so, well over any legal limit I know of! ). I am not too proud to say that at the time, I remember being quite fascinated. The seller - a bit of a huckster - tried to sell the whole thing to me for $100. 'Who buys anything for $100!' I remember thinking, first of all. Secondly, I never go to the flea with $100 in my pocket. Not then, and still not now. As I think about it now, practically speaking, it probably was a pretty good deal. But it would also take all the fun out of it. And feel like cheating. This is also a mantra or motto I have lived by ever since - and, lo and behold, 15 years later, I have a stringer of my own! And probably for no more than $15!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

@jb books
I didn't mean to detract from your find. I was just excited to see it, because it's only the second one I have ever seen now! This will give me impetus to try harder to ID it.

 

[Old Man Roger]

Some of my finds this weekend. Matco intermediate box, Pair of American Optical Vietnam era Pilot sunglasses, pair of old Ray Ban Aviators, and a 4 inch adjustable only marked Tool Steel, a Roto Ratchet made here in Heber Utah. Couldn't find any of the sockets.

That middle box gets a you ****.

 

[SC Fly Guy]

Thank you, sir! 5 J.P. Danielson, 4 Crescent, 3 Diamond, 1 German, 1 TBD, and 1 Utica and counting!

Quick story, but fitting for the thread. When I first started hitting the fleas pretty regularly for tools, about 15 years ago or so, there was a guy with a bunch of 4-inchers on a wire, just like a stringer of fish. Probably a dozen or so (so, well over any legal limit I know of! ). I am not too proud to say that at the time, I remember being quite fascinated. The seller - a bit of a huckster - tried to sell the whole thing to me for $100. 'Who buys anything for $100!' I remember thinking, first of all. Secondly, I never go to the flea with $100 in my pocket. Not then, and still not now. As I think about it now, practically speaking, it probably was a pretty good deal. But it would also take all the fun out of it. And feel like cheating. This is also a mantra or motto I have lived by ever since - and, lo and behold, 15 years later, I have a stringer of my own! And probably for no more than $15!

I couldn’t agree more! Being from Jamestown, I have a special love for Crescent and Danielson tools. From time-to-time, I have found ‘packaged sets’ of adjustables from 4”-16” - almost always by dealers at exaggerated prices. Over the years, I’ve assembled several sets of my own … 1 piece at a time … usually for a few bucks for each piece. It’s the thrill of the hunt that makes this fun.

 

[RTM]

Here is my haul from a long weekend of tool hunting. This weekend was the city-wide GS in @PacificaVette neighborhood. We mapped out a list of likely tool targets, and tried to hit them all. 1st was a bust, was supposed to open at 9, he was still out hanging signs at 9, and his wife wouldn't sell anything without him. He was BSing with a guy down the block a few streets when 2 vehicles drove off. Didn't look like anything I'd waste time on anyways.

Said punt, drove to the far side of town, and the first stop was a bonus. Turns out, she'd opened Friday, and had already sold a bunch of tools, this was the $1 / tool find. Spent $15, was quite pleased, Several other stops continued in this fashion, $1 or $2 tools. Nearing the end, found two $5 chisels, and a $3 vise, and a few other goodies. I think my biggest item was the $10 storage cabinet. The most expensive tool was a $15 buck saw, broken down for easy storage. The fun non tool purchase was a pair of Thule Aero Bars for my new cap on my truck, that has the runners, but no cross bars.

Left to Right, 4 drawer storage cabinet, bottom drawer missing some of the dividers, unknown bow (buck) saw, very rusty blade, heavy vintage shovel, freebie can of black hammered spray paint, Thule Aero Bars NIB, Hook-eye meat saw.



L - R, almost all a buck or two, craftsman 2 or 3 leg puller, Bucket boss wrench? roll, 4x packs of ty-wraps, 2-1/4" panel punch, Klein Jab saw, quite heavy duty, Thorsen and SO sockets, Plomb pebble breaker (slightly bent) unknown S wrench, hook tool, Williams punch, Mayhew chisel, unknown vise, modified machinist clamp, Buck Bros & unk chisel, chip carving knife, Estwing hatchet sized maul, Blackhawk ZW-1120 vise grips, Wright 1110 - 1140 combo wrenches, 5/8" to 1-1/4", missing 1-1/8", Vaco screw starter.


Today's haul was last day of a family run estate sale. She was a painter, so lots and lots of paintings to be had. We passed, but grabbed two vintage hand saws, a Hyde scraper, Seymour Smith garden trimmer with 1956 patent, home / shop made square, really heavy, and an organizer box. Wife grabbed some kitchen and sewing goodies cheap of free.

 

[rallenc]

This is most of the haul from an estate sale I hit yesterday. The owner was apparently a merchant marine, and there was a lot of nautical stuff.

The little Fuller vise is stamped “Japan” on the bottom, but I love the quality of my everyday-use Japanese-made Craftsman vise (70s or so, I think).

The pipe vise is missing a handle, so I’ll have to figure out a replacement, but that shouldn’t be too hard.

The Craftsman vise I wasn’t sure about, but I took a shot on it at $35. As far as I can tell, there is no way to remove the jaws, which will limit its utility for me. Jaws are only 3-1/2 inches, too. It’s still in nice shape though, and I think it will function and look nice when cleaned up.

The real prize for me is the Kennedy box. I know the leather handle probably makes it pre-1950 (or so). All of the drawers slide nicely and have their brown felt, though the felt is fraying/pulling, and probably should be replaced. The paint isn’t too bad. I need to clean off the rest of the hardened yellowed tape that was out all around it, but it’s coming off pretty easily so far. The coolest bit to me is the front cover with the Republic Aviation decal. Nothing comes up when I google that design or the phrase “is this yours?” with the company name. I’m just happy I looked around the workshop carefully, because the cover was actually about 10 feet away from the rest of the box, wedged next to a cabinet, and I don’t think I would have bought the box without the cover.

Just showing everything off. I’m still pretty new and inexperienced with vintage tool stuff, but having a blast saving things from the trash that have some history or life left in them. Happy hunting!

If I recall correctly, Republic Aviation was based out of Farmingdale on Long Island back in the 50's or 60's. Last time I was by there the airport was still there, right off Route 110.

 

[Cruzan80]

Two of three stops on Fri were successful. First stop got me the two sets of planes for $2, the B&D cordless 1/4" ratchet for $3 (holds a pretty good charge) and the Electronics kit for $2. Currently teaching Arduino and bread boards, and will do flight later in the semester, so both of those are going into my classroom.

Second stop netted me the Herbrand ratcheting adapter, Indestro 3275 ratchet, and a set of needle nose pliers (just marked W Germany). Knurling looks distinctive, any ideas? The ratchet was completely freewheeling and the selector was locked due to grease, and the adapter wasn't much better. Took a chance on them for $5, and both of them are moving now, but still need deeper cleanings.

Saturday was a dud for the most of the stops (hit 3-5 planned and TOO). First stop had a stack that had already sold, heard there was a good amount of Proto in it. Would have felt bad about missing it, but was going to a young homeowner, and I don't need another set of boxes. I did show him how the trapdoor "locks" the box, as his toddler was playing with it.

Final stop found some things at a family run ES. Old guy was a woodturner, had tons of Robert Sorby tools. They wanted about 35-50% of the Rockler pricing on wood/acrylic blanks, but found a small chuck off on its own, some multi-grit sandpaper and a hollowing tool. Small 4" square is iGaging. The CM booklet seems to be made by Popular Mechanics, aggregating the screw/nail/etc posters. Chuck is already on my smaller wood lathe in the pic. It is the lever version, not the keyed, and needs cleaned/oiled, but does move. $40 for all of those.

Lastly, swung out today and grabbed this skinny locker with drawers. No idea on who made it, but seems built fairly stout. Friction slides. Only cost me $25.

 

[RTM]

First stop got me the two sets of planes for $2,

I'm looking all over this post for pictures of wood planes. Took me several tries to realize you meant flying planes.

 

[zanyad]

From local Facebook Buy Nothing group (free): metal small parts cabinet with door, 30 sheet metal drawers. Drawers look to have been reinforced with wood front & back by PO, some have additional wood pieces nailed in as dividers. Cabinet is about 12ga so nice and sturdy. Stand has been reinforced with wood stringers at the bottom. Not sure whether double casters are original or add-ons.

Measurements:
20.75 deep incl. door
17.25 wide
28 high
Stand is 21.5 high, metal and wood.

 

[NJ Marty]

Hit a fun one on friday, a real digger. Place was pretty much void of tools but plenty of cool old stuff. I was encouraged to make a pile and here is my $350 pile. Plenty of mouse and racoon poop but that didnt stop me,it did make others back off from deep digging.

 

[brockmub]

@NJ Marty *****. I love that little wrecker!

 

[Beerhippie]

@NJ Marty : Great haul--a little rich for my blood, but some total winners there!

Strangely, my "pick of the lot" would be the dairy thermometer. I used to have one like it around here somewhere... also handy in the brewery.

 

[misterbill]

I didn't get out this past weekend, but I did pick up this Snap-on 71N (1945 dated?) 1/2" drive ratchet today.





Bill

 

[NJ Marty]

A few more finds I forgot about from last friday because they were so grimy.
The brass tags are cool and should clean up ok. I didn't think much of the axe till I saw it was embossed. Some steel wool did the job, its a Kelly. Very well used and sitting in a damp basement for 50 years didnt help.

 

[3baygarage]

What a find on all those tags.

 

[Outlawmws]

OK, without a doubt, Marty *****! Those are awesome, especially on top of the earlier post!

 

[jeffmoss26]

Wowwww

 

[Straightgrain]

I have taken an interest in recent years in locksmith items. It began when I purchased a lamp with a “keys while you wait” globe that I added to my workshop.

At a recent estate auction, I was able to win a metal case labelled locksmith. The lid of the case was held down by 2 latches on either side and the total weight is probably about 30-40 lbs. Once opened it appears that the contents are divided into 4 equal sections in which 2 sides lift out. The other half has a vise that is hinged on one side that opens to the other side. A clever design.

Contents include a number of wood handled files marked Lutz File& Tool Company out of Cincinnati, key blanks, various lock parts, a lockpickers tool, springs, pins and a Rayovac pen light that had Duracell AA batteries labeled “Best Used by Jan 96”. Containers include Sucrets tins and a Scotch Tape metal cannister. It also contained a 0-1” micrometer made by HPC out of Chicago.

Given the contents, this mobile locksmith worked on vehicles, commercial and residential locks and with this kit eked out a living from a days gone by era. I find this stuff interesting.

I went to an estate sale of a locksmith and found 2 lock picking kits/sets. When I went to the cashier to pay for them, he confiscated them and wouldn't let me buy them.

 

[Southern83]

@NJ Marty *****

 

[3jakes]

NJ Marty *****
His has barely any mushrooming compared to this ebay sale:

Vintage Old Embossed Kelly Perfect Axe Head | eBay

Great addition to collection. We have not attempted to clean, oil or polish, will leave this to new owner if so desired. unboxed 3lbs 13.8 oz. Barely visible on back side with all the writing inscribed “1890” in large 5/8” numbers.

www.ebay.com

 

[Raineman]

***** to @bmwrd0 for the Craftsman box with logo still intact, @Outlawmws for the Gerber flik loks, they are really nice for fishing cause you can open them 1 handed!, and @Squez for the Plomb 1/4" box!

Weekend started off slow but picked up considerably today. Couple sales after work yesterday didn't yield much but did much better this morning.

From yesterday, this sale had some nice stuff but it was a little too rich for my taste. Picked up the Plomb 3050 and a couple SK extensions for sets at $5



Also a few bits from a picked over estate sale for $4. Lectrolite Tru Fit DBE, Proto, Craftsman, New Britain, Husky, and Snap on randoms.



Now on to the better stuff from today. This sale looked to be a bust until I asked about tools and they let me into the garage as they hadn't pulled anything out yet. Complete Craftsman metric combo set in blow molded case and a mostly complete set of GearWrench metric ratcheting wrenches. I don't usually buy non USA stuff but at $20 for both I couldn't leave the GearWrenches behind. I did leave an SAE set...



And finally the best sale of the day, guy was clearing out his shop and there was a lot of it. I loaded up everything in a tote which is always good if they don't pick through it cause you can't tell how much is in there $40 all in for this batch.



Bunch of Craftsman metric combos


Complete set of Craftsman double line V DBEs and a few randoms. Snap on, Mac, Proto, Fleet, Plomb, Herbrand.


1/2" and 3/8" drive sockets, kind of a mish mash but most of a 1/2" =v= set, a bunch of metric 3/8" stuff, a few =v= wobblers, and a couple other bits.



And the best part, a little =v= 1/4" set with a random Snap on 1/4" ratchet in the box and a few other sockets plus the two spinners.

You ****. That is a great day.

4 stops yesterday and 1 estate sale this morning. Only 2 of the stops produced.

First was a blue point KRW148B for $25 and the tools for $25
Blue point, Bonney, SK and new Britain wrenches
Williams adjustable
Craftsman V 1/4 drive and husky US 3/8 drive sockets
Blue point air pressure gauge
A cool old tubing cutter no name
Long C craftsman ball pein
Bag of tiny zip ty’s
And $.70



Next was stop 4 , a Kennedy 220 with tools for $30
A Fiskar hollow handle hatchet
Craftsman prof. multi tool
Craftsman EE and G, SK sockets
Craftsman nut splitter
Truecraft 5/8 saltus wrench
2 V wrenches
Crescent 6” adjustable
New Brunswick “never slip” linesman’s with replaceable cutters
Elkind folding screwdrivers
And some junk




And finally the estate sale this morning. $15 for everything

8 snap on wobble extensions
Snap on 7/8 6 point 3/8 drive
Snap on 9/16 6 point 1/4 drive
Snap on straight blade driver
Craftsman prof. #2 phillips
3/8 drive SK 6 point sockets
1/4 proto ratchet
3/8 fine tooth craftsman ratchet
SK 6 point 7/16 wrench
Small pair of Bernards
Klein knife
And finally a no name awl w/ a nice wood handle

You ****, especially for the SO wobble extensions, those ain't cheap.

Some of my finds this weekend. Matco intermediate box, Pair of American Optical Vietnam era Pilot sunglasses, pair of old Ray Ban Aviators, and a 4 inch adjustable only marked Tool Steel, a Roto Ratchet made here in Heber Utah. Couldn't find any of the sockets.

You **** for that mid box. And some of those old aviator glasses bring stupid money on the auction site.

 

[NJ Marty]

NJ Marty *****
His has barely any mushrooming compared to this ebay sale:

Vintage Old Embossed Kelly Perfect Axe Head | eBay

Great addition to collection. We have not attempted to clean, oil or polish, will leave this to new owner if so desired. unboxed 3lbs 13.8 oz. Barely visible on back side with all the writing inscribed “1890” in large 5/8” numbers.

www.ebay.com

Wow, I didnt have a chance to look it up. I knew it was good but not that good.