Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT 1950s Craftsman Garage retro remodel

[Red Leader]

great thread. glad i found this sucker. keep up the great work

Thank you! I will try my best! The garage build has entered a new season with our new 14 week old son in the picture, which has been a huge blessing and a fun challenge in doing work out there. The best part will be when he is old enough to be out there right along side his old man

I'm thinking about 2 more weeks to go

 

[tinbender 66]

It has a simple, yet art deco design. Perfect for the 50s Craftsman Garage.

Here are some of the boards routed:

And this is why I love working with wood. No matter what piece of wood you get, each one is always going to be different. I like the variation, the change, and the challenge of that. The wood tells a story, either of where it has been, or what has happened to it, or something else. I love the figuring, the colors, the knots, and yes, sometimes even the cracks, the dents, and the twists. It adds character and adds to the story.

For about $.80 a board, how can you go wrong? To me, it beats the fancy, no knots premolded $1.25/linear ft trim any day. [/QUOTE]

Looking good. I never thought I needed a router 'til I met you. Oh well, it's only money

 

[thomask]

For about $.80 a board, how can you go wrong? To me, it beats the fancy, no knots premolded $1.25/linear ft trim any day. [/QUOTE]

What a great project on the shop. The price is right on the trim. Took about all evening but have read this thread and what a cool retro project. Those tool restos are SUPER and special in that you use them as intended. They just don't make them like that any more.

Thanks for your great work and we will stay tuned.

 

[shopnut]

RL - I know your climate is a lot drier than mine, but do you need to worry about rust/corrosion? Or is waxing enough to keep it under control?

 

[Red Leader]

RL - I know your climate is a lot drier than mine, but do you need to worry about rust/corrosion? Or is waxing enough to keep it under control?

Usually waxing takes care of things.

If we do have rust, it is usually very minimal. Especially on the tools.

That being said, a lot of it comes down to maintenance.

The other day I was scraping on the cast iron table of the little Delta sander I got recently, which wasn't really 'pitted' but had quite a bit of rust on the table. Non-maintained tools will rust faster out here than meticulously maintained tools will in somewhere like Florida. Then again, non-maintained tools in FL probably turn to dust

 

[Red Leader]

What a great project on the shop. The price is right on the trim. Took about all evening but have read this thread and what a cool retro project. Those tool restos are SUPER and special in that you use them as intended. They just don't make them like that any more.

Thanks for your great work and we will stay tuned.

Thomask,

Thank you for your kind comments. I appreciate them! I made a vow to not restore any more old tools until I can get some shop space/storage to where I am not damaging my restored tools by moving junk around the garage. My plan until then is to get my tools functional and restore them when I have the space/means to.

That won't stop me from acquiring more of them, though

 

[Red Leader]

Looking good. I never thought I needed a router 'til I met you. Oh well, it's only money

I never thought I wanted a Delta 1160 until I saw you restore yours.

What goes around comes around as they say

 

[rickairmedic]

Thank you! I will try my best! The garage build has entered a new season with our new 14 week old son in the picture, which has been a huge blessing and a fun challenge in doing work out there. The best part will be when he is old enough to be out there right along side his old man

I'm thinking about 2 more weeks to go

Dave I would say most likely more than 2 weeks but I will say get him out there as early as you can and get him involved .

The new wood looks great and I like the router trick gonna have to try that one .


Rick

 

[mithrix]

Red Leader,

Finally got through the entire thread...

Congratulations on the young-un! Top notch project too! Can't wait to see things continue to come together.. I have to say that your thread is most engaging. Your excitement is contagious, as well as most everyone else who is acive on this forum. Thanks for sharing!

I'll have to keep in mind the older tools as I set out to acquire more of my own. Intriguing.

Best Regards,
-C

 

[flybefree]

Dave,

Found Boeshield when I got my lathe...use it to prevent rust on all my machines. Has a smooth dry finish and seems to hold up really well. Originally developed by Boeing and lots of machinist use it on mills/lathes/etc. I used to get a little surface rust on the cast iron table on my band-saw...now it's not an issue. Got it at Sears...so there is a craftsman connection!

Shaun

 

[Red Leader]

Whoohoo!!!!

FINALLY got some primer on this bad boy!!! I had been wanting to do this before the weather turned nasty. That didn't really happen, but we had 50+ degree weather today, so I decided it better get done!

Ever since I had sanded the cabinet down, it started getting this light rust 'film' on it, and that had to go! So I broke out the grinder and sanded it down again, filed down the patched holes, then got some primer going.

Before:

After:

I'm going to try to go to a Lowe's tomorrow that is going out of business and see if I can find any of the paint that I'm looking for. Right now I'm trying to decide if I want to just cart it down to the basement and paint, or wait for nicer weather (tomorrow is going to be too cold outside). I might just wait to let the primer cure and I will have other pieces that need painting too.

I still need to order bearings but once that happens, I've got an OWWM buddy that has a press he is going to let me use to get the bearings and flange back on the arbor.

After things are painted, I can start getting things assembled! Whoohoo! This will be my first restoration of a tool this size. So far, so good!

 

[Red Leader]

Dave,

Found Boeshield when I got my lathe...use it to prevent rust on all my machines. Has a smooth dry finish and seems to hold up really well. Originally developed by Boeing and lots of machinist use it on mills/lathes/etc. I used to get a little surface rust on the cast iron table on my band-saw...now it's not an issue. Got it at Sears...so there is a craftsman connection!

Shaun

Hmm...I'm going to have to look into that! Sounds like a great product. Do you know if it wipes off or what the surface condition is like with it on? I would hate for it to contaminate wood, but maybe I'm just overthinking it.

 

[Red Leader]

Dave I would say most likely more than 2 weeks but I will say get him out there as early as you can and get him involved .

The new wood looks great and I like the router trick gonna have to try that one .


Rick

Thanks Rick - the router trick has actually saved me a lot of money since I can make my own trim. It isn't the fanciest, best, or most ornate trim in the world, but it fits with the garage better than the pre-made stuff would anyway.

 

[Red Leader]

Red Leader,

Finally got through the entire thread...

Congratulations on the young-un! Top notch project too! Can't wait to see things continue to come together.. I have to say that your thread is most engaging. Your excitement is contagious, as well as most everyone else who is acive on this forum. Thanks for sharing!

I'll have to keep in mind the older tools as I set out to acquire more of my own. Intriguing.

Best Regards,
-C

Thanks Mithrix! I am enjoying the heck out of it. I hope my son does too when he is old enough to get out there and do some stuff. Things will really start to come together when I get the floor and the ceiling together. My goal for that is next year.

I'm glad this thread got you thinking of older tools. The are cheap, fun, classy, and help you learn good and solid handiwork skills. Can't beat 'em

 

[GirlnAgarage]

I'm jealous of your paint job. Look at it. The paint is nice and laid down. Doesn't look like there was 40mph gusts or leaves from the neighbors tree. Not even a blade of grass.

I like that.

 

[Red Leader]

Soooo....

A neighbor yesterday told me that a local Lowes was going out of business and everything was 33% off. Cool, I need to try and pick up some paint for the cabinet saw, so I'll stop by and see what else they had.

So, it was a zoo. Today was 50% off. To be honest, while it sounds like an incredible deal, the deals still didn't seem so amazing to someone who likes to hunt C/L for the ultimate in dirt cheap

Nonetheless, I found a bunch of stuff for the garage that will end up as adventurous updates in the near future.

I did get the paint - they actually had it! 5 cans of Rustoleum metallic charcoal. I think this color is going to look great on the saw.

I also finally got insulation panels for the inside back of the garage door - this was a long time in coming. I've been neglecting the door, but now that I have the panels, I'll work on them and once I have them installed, I'm going to work on the turn-buckle system to fix the sagging and once I've done that I am going to adjust the garage door opener and get it working again.

I didn't get a lot done today. Why? I waited for 1.5 hours in line. No joke. I don't think I'm ever going to do that again, but I was already there, so I was committed. I did get to have some nice conversations with the folks around me, so that was nice

I also got some aluminum flashing for the tool board panels, aluminum trim to go around the bottom lip of the art deco shelves, and a bunch of casters for the future workbench. I spent more than I wanted to, but definitely got some things for the future at a good price.

Without further ado, here is what I was able to accomplish in the limited time I had:

Time to cut the insulation. From my point of view:

By daveamy at 2011-11-05

Making the cut:

I cut some to size and did some preliminary fitting. Once I confirm that they are a good fit, I will paint, then install.

That's all for now! More to come later!

 

[ChristopherLutz]

Red Leader -

Always appreciate your posts, updates and tenacity. The garage is looking great, you're doing the country a favor by refurbing these awesome tools and making for some very enjoyable reads for the rest of us.

Thanks much and keep it up!!

 

[jpbrowni1]

Careful with spray paint on the rigid insulation. I learned the hard way. The solvent in the spray paint ate through my insulation this summer.

 

[Wingnut65]

+2 on the paint - use latex. My black filler pieces around my floor tile are half the size they should because they were dissolved.

Congrats on actually finding so much stuff you needed or at least could use at a store closing sale. I've hit some before and found nothing worth standing in line for.

And also, on that router trick. Good catch to save time! And scoring that much wood for $7, you deserve a 'You ****' for that.

 

[Red Leader]

I'm jealous of your paint job. Look at it. The paint is nice and laid down. Doesn't look like there was 40mph gusts or leaves from the neighbors tree. Not even a blade of grass.

I like that.

Thanks so much! It did come out pretty nice. I do have to touch up one area that I'm being picky about - it is where the JB Weld didn't quite fill in a hole perfectly. And I can't blame the JB Weld...it was drilled on the seam!!!

One of the other things I picked up for 50% off was the paint for this saw - I got 5 cans worth of it, which I'm hoping should be enough. I used about 1 and 3/4 of primer to do the cabinet. I'm trying to figure out what I should paint the castings and the bottom of the table. Any ideas? Same color? I kinda thought a gold color would look really neat as the underside of the table casting, but I'm not sure.

Let me know if you guys have any suggestions on the casting pieces, whether I should paint them the same color as the cabinet, or something different.

 

[Red Leader]

Red Leader -

Always appreciate your posts, updates and tenacity. The garage is looking great, you're doing the country a favor by refurbing these awesome tools and making for some very enjoyable reads for the rest of us.

Thanks much and keep it up!!

Thank you for your kind words! I'm glad you find things in this thread interesting! I'll do my best!

 

[Red Leader]

Careful with spray paint on the rigid insulation. I learned the hard way. The solvent in the spray paint ate through my insulation this summer.

+2 on the paint - use latex. My black filler pieces around my floor tile are half the size they should because they were dissolved.

Congrats on actually finding so much stuff you needed or at least could use at a store closing sale. I've hit some before and found nothing worth standing in line for.

And also, on that router trick. Good catch to save time! And scoring that much wood for $7, you deserve a 'You ****' for that.

Yep, I hear ya. No worries, I am going to use the latex paint that I used on the walls. I am going to try to match the walls and see how it looks. Hopefully it won't be too goofy

Things have a way of turning out differently than how they appeared in your mind. Sometimes better, sometimes worse.

We'll see!

And yeah the router is a great way to spiff up wood. Having a router table extension has made things really easy, and I don't have to bother with the flimsy aluminum router tables and have it take up more space.

 

[rickairmedic]

Oooooooooh sure think of a paint color that will work with metalic charcoal . Ok let me get my brain back in gear . Ok the cast pieces are they cast iron, cast aluminum ?


Rick

 

[Red Leader]

Oooooooooh sure think of a paint color that will work with metalic charcoal . Ok let me get my brain back in gear . Ok the cast pieces are they cast iron, cast aluminum ?


Rick

Cast iron. Here are some examples of what folks have painted the underside of a saw (examples are from the saweeeet 103.2245x C-man cabinet saw):

Machinery gray:

Silver:

Maybe I could just use the metallic charcoal color as well on the inside and paint the underside of the top gold. That sounds promising to me since it is the paint I already have on hand hee hee

 

[flybefree]

What Bret says about Boeshield...I love it.

I like the machinery gray best...looks all 1950's industrial that way...like a battleship. However, economics drive the train!

Shaun

 

[shopnut]

Almost went to Sears today to buy some BoeShield, but passed because the store website said they only had 1 in stock and I've been burned by their inventory control before.

Does it get dry to the touch after spraying/wiping it on? Besides using it on the lathe ways and DP columns, I want to spray some on the hoist chains.

RL - better get going on that insulation. The cold weather is right around the corner!

 

[Red Leader]

Okay, I busted out all the individual panels and should have them painted soon. After than, I'll just need to paint the stripes and I'll be in business!

Thanks for everyone following along!

 

[Bentwheelbob]

Red Leader,

I've been following you on Garage Journal, among others, as I build my own dream garage. Initially I was posting build updates, but eventually it got to the point that I could only do two things at once and I chose to keep my paying job and keep the garage build moving. Posting updates took a backseat. To make a long story short, my build is about done and I am cleaning up the construction debris including the overflow in my woodworking shop. I have an old (1974) Craftsman shaper that I acquired some time ago and it needs to find a new home. The model number is 113.23941. I have posted a few pictures below. It works and is in pretty decent shape. I am proposing to donate it to your cause if you are interested and willing to reimburse shipping. I think it could be removed from the stand and shipped by UPS at a reasonable rate. From my brief Google session, it does not seem to have great monetary value nor is it considered a "classic". Given these facts, I understand if you have no real interest, but I wanted to check before I kicked it out to the curb. Let me know.

Lastly, I couldn't miss the chance to post a few interior photos of my new hangout. I going to start building garage cabinets this weekend which helps explain my motivation in cleaning out the woodshop.

 

[gts340]

^^ Wow, that's a really nice garage too. Nice gesture for the tool!

 

[Wingnut65]

Awesome shop! And Kudos on the offer.

 

[Red Leader]

Red Leader,

I've been following you on Garage Journal, among others, as I build my own dream garage. Initially I was posting build updates, but eventually it got to the point that I could only do two things at once and I chose to keep my paying job and keep the garage build moving. Posting updates took a backseat. To make a long story short, my build is about done and I am cleaning up the construction debris including the overflow in my woodworking shop. I have an old (1974) Craftsman shaper that I acquired some time ago and it needs to find a new home. The model number is 113.23941. I have posted a few pictures below. It works and is in pretty decent shape. I am proposing to donate it to your cause if you are interested and willing to reimburse shipping. I think it could be removed from the stand and shipped by UPS at a reasonable rate. From my brief Google session, it does not seem to have great monetary value nor is it considered a "classic". Given these facts, I understand if you have no real interest, but I wanted to check before I kicked it out to the curb. Let me know.

Lastly, I couldn't miss the chance to post a few interior photos of my new hangout. I going to start building garage cabinets this weekend which helps explain my motivation in cleaning out the woodshop.

Didn't know you it is a forum rule that you are not supposed to post a nicer garage than the garage in the thread that you are posting to???

VS

Hahaha! Just kidding!

AWESOME garage! I love all those vintage touches!

Also, that is very kind of you to offer up that vintage shaper. I appreciate your generous offer!
I'm sure you know that most of the time, shipping gets to be an interesting challenge with tools (although not impossible if you get some help). Since this is kind of a shoestring budget, I'd love a shaper, but I don't know if a set of shaper bits to use the tool would ever be in the budget. I see you are in WV. Reason being, there might be someone out there who would be able to get a lot more use right off the bat with that kind of tool. If you are looking for a good home for a good tool, I can still totally help you out, even if it doesn't end up in my garage. Just let me know. Still, I am honored by your awesome offer! That shaper looks very, very similar to the Craftsman shapers from the 50s. The shapers and the disk/belt sanders hardly changed at all throughout the years, which usually is a good thing

 

[Bentwheelbob]

Sorry about the breach of posting protocol. As usual I have come in like the proverbial bull in the china shop.

I don't know if you have heard the joke which best applies, but here goes. "What's the best way to make a small fortune? Start with a big pile of money and then begin building your dream garage." This is guaranteed to reduce your liquidity. What I have done is much easier than all the blood, sweat and tears you are putting in your dream garage. I have yet to get a splinter writing checks. A few blisters maybe, but no splinters. You've got a great build going and you're doing it the old fashioned way. If more people had your work ethic THE GOOD OLD USA would be much better off. Lastly, I'll reiterate a lot of the other comments about taking time for the kid. Below is a picture of my 10 year old helping hang doors after the painters finished. She's the best project I have ever undertaken.



OK, back to the shaper. Red Leader has left the free market open to any takers. I am in the Charleston, WV area and can also arrange for local pickup in the Colombus, Ohio, Lexington, KY or Pikeville, Ky area. If not claimed by Thursday night, I'll load it up Friday morning and take to the Habitat for Humanity Re-Store in town, along with the 30 or 40 cutters I have for the shaper.

Just kidding, I only have 6 cutters which are pictured here:



Let me know if anyone has an interest. I'll try to post a few more pictures in the future, including the cabinet build starting this weekend.

 

[Red Leader]

I should just start calling this build the 'midnight garage', since it seems that is the only time I make updates

I have learned to take a lot of small 'bites' out of the projects, and little by little they will get done. That way works a lot better these days than the mega 6 hour long work sessions on weekends. Last night I got all the individual insulation panels cut.

Tonight I got 3/4 of them painted with the lower teal garage wall color. The remaining 1/4 will get the tan and then 4 of the teal pieces will get a tan stripe to match the wall. A half hour here, a half hour there, and soon it will be done! Heck, maybe tomorrow I'll be able to do the tan and then Friday get these bad boys up on the door! Heck yeah!!

After I get these painted up and installed on the back of the garage door, then...

1. Install turnbuckle system on garage panels and straighten out garage door
2. Adjust start/stop sensor on garage door

Hopefully then the garage door will be in tip-top shape!

Also, I'm pretty excited because good weather (in the 50s) is forecast for Friday, so if it holds true I might be able to do some more painting on the Atlas 3160!

 

[onewaydave]

Dave, I think a few posts up you were commenting on painting the underside of tables ad what. Some where on GJ someone posted pics of a paint that looks like raw cast iron. I think it might have been Sherwinn Williams. Very cool looking and appropriate for our tools (least those that suffer the OCD thing).

Midnight posts? Baby in the arms with a bottle and one finger typing?

But, What about Bob? Little baby steps!

Always looking good.

Dave.

 

[98TJ]

OK, back to the shaper. Red Leader has left the free market open to any takers. I am in the Charleston, WV area and can also arrange for local pickup in the Colombus, Ohio, Lexington, KY or Pikeville, Ky area. If not claimed by Thursday night, I'll load it up Friday morning and take to the Habitat for Humanity Re-Store in town, along with the 30 or 40 cutters I have for the shaper.

Just kidding, I only have 6 cutters which are pictured here:



Let me know if anyone has an interest. I'll try to post a few more pictures in the future, including the cabinet build starting this weekend.

I will be in the Lexington area this weekend and will bring it into TN if anyone that's farther west/southwest would like to pick it up from the Nashville area.

If nothing else, it's that much closer to Denver.

 

[Firefyter-Emt]

FWIW, I will second the look of a "raw cast iron" metallic gray on the undersides. I have done this to saw top undersides and even the webbing on open extension tables. It looks very nice with the right color.

 

[flybefree]

YOU ARE A GENUIS! Well, maybe not...but I now know how I will get rid of my "pink door of shame" in my shop...duh!

Shaun "blinding flash of the obvious"

 

[Omphaloskeptic]

"pink door of shame" lol F.B.F, just don't paint it puce!

That is an elegant solution for the insulation. No primer necessary? One coat or two?

 

[Theron451]

Nice collection of woodworking machinery, especially the Unisaw! I have the same jointer, although mine doesn't have the cool stand.

 

[Red Leader]

Well, a bit of a setback.

So I wanted to paint the stripe on the foam panels to match the wall stripe. However, since the garage door sags a little in the center, the ends stick up a little. Assuming that the turnbuckle system would straighten this out, it would slightly change where the stripes settle in relation to the wall when fully implemented.

Therefore, I tried a little experiment tonight. I decided to set up a turn buckle system just to see how it worked. Well, it worked great! Until the rod broke

I was using the metal rod used for hanging up the drop ceiling framing grid, and why not? I have tons of it and it looked like the right thing. Welp, it's not Not strong enough.

So now, do I wait to get some braided cable that would be much stronger, or do I just go ahead and paint the stripe where I think it will go and hope for the best, with knowing that when the turnbuckle system is finally up and running, the whole garage door may setting a little bit and throw the stripe off?

I know, I'm really splitting hairs here. Such is life in the 1950s Craftsman Garage My frozen feet are hoping that I make decisions out there more quickly

-Dave