colo crawler
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I am a technician with the cable company and yes they do work with Voip. I have a wall mounted rotary phone in my garage and it works perfect. It is also really loud so I can hear it over my tools.
-Tom
Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT The 12-Gauge Garage
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Workspaces sized between 265 and 485 squarefeet.
I am a technician with the cable company and yes they do work with Voip. I have a wall mounted rotary phone in my garage and it works perfect. It is also really loud so I can hear it over my tools.
-Tom
^^ Oh you guys are just getting obscene now. Cap screws flybefree??? Enabler!!
I'm one of those guys. I use socket head cap screws wherever I can and I'm partial to stainless. I do spend a small fortune at Fastenal and Mcmaster Carr.
It's probably blasphemy but I even use them in appropriate places on old machine restorations.
1991Syclone
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Fantastic news! Thanks for the heads up.
GirlnAgarage
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They make for nice hardware. I got use to using them maintaining our motorcycles. Still have a few new packets put away for a special occasion. I noticed you use McM Carr. I can light my account on fire when I shop there. I shouldn't be allowed to log on without supervision 
flybefree
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Ok, so maybe the cap screws were a little over the top...but doggone it guys, I just like good quality fasteners OK?
;-)
Shaun
;-)
Shaun
LOL...yea...it's so easy to just click that "place order" box and you get that nice little verification email.
They know me well...Many times I'll place an order on Sunday's after realizing what I need while in the shop on the weekends....invariably, I will forget something...go back in that night and order more....then shoot off an email asking them to combine the orders and the next morning I have an email simply saying...."Will do Ken". I did it just last night in fact.
Bob Heine
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Long before I found GJ, I found McMaster-Carr -- my daughter gave me one of their 3,500-page catalogs. I am wearing a patch to ease withdrawals from my addiction to McMaster-Carr. It's not helping - last time I opened the catalog I ended up with boxes of 3-1/2" long 1/4-20 stainless button-head cap screws, nuts and stainless fender washers to reinforce the screen enclosure around the pool patio. The next delivery contained a 6" diameter 1/4" thick aluminum disk for the project car. My halfway house is a local Fastenal store. Sadly the pushers there make me buy bags of hardware when I only need five or six nuts and bolts.
McMaster-Carr has too many tempting (and expensive) items so I now get my nut and bolt fixes from BoltDepot.com. Just did a quick price comparison on both places. Price for a dime bag -- sorry -- box of 100 1" long 1/4-20 hex cap screws in 18-8 stainless is $13.43 at BoltDepot.com and $17.98 at McMaster-Carr (I couldn't find that particular bolt at Fastenal). BoltDepot.com sells individual pieces as well as pre-packaged collections. Do not loiter there... you will get hooked.
McMaster-Carr has too many tempting (and expensive) items so I now get my nut and bolt fixes from BoltDepot.com. Just did a quick price comparison on both places. Price for a dime bag -- sorry -- box of 100 1" long 1/4-20 hex cap screws in 18-8 stainless is $13.43 at BoltDepot.com and $17.98 at McMaster-Carr (I couldn't find that particular bolt at Fastenal). BoltDepot.com sells individual pieces as well as pre-packaged collections. Do not loiter there... you will get hooked.
^^ Oh you guys are just getting obscene now. Cap screws flybefree??? Enabler!!
Jack, you live by the sword you die by the sword I'm afraid...
...with the high standard you've set here and they'll be unmerciful, ask me how I know...
...but yup, I'm thinking cap screws all the way. Never-the-less always nice work seen here, but then that's to be expected of a U of I grad! Still enjoying your adventures.
Thomas
rlwhitetr3b
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I'm pleased to note that Thomas has the caps in his cap screws clocked!
GirlnAgarage
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Hey, cap screwers, don't forget the final bling detail by using cap covers
tinbender 66
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The local Ace Hardware has a nice selection of chrome plated hardware under lock and key.
.Hey, cap screwers, don't forget the final bling detail by using cap covers
I have looked online, inquired locally high and low for cap covers and ended up empty handed, zip, nadda. I just know someone makes 'em but darned if I know who or where. GirlnAgarage, pray tell where thoust may findeth sacred cap covers and thou willst be in thine debt forever and a day??!!
Intrigued Thomas
Sorry about the post hijack, but I knew you'd understand and forgive me.
I have looked online, inquired locally high and low for cap covers and ended up empty handed, zip, nadda. I just know someone makes 'em but darned if I know who or where. GirlnAgarage, pray tell where thoust may findeth sacred cap covers and thou willst be in thine debt forever and a day??!!
Intrigued Thomas
Sorry about the post hijack, but I knew you'd understand and forgive me.
I think that bullet vise needs some "bullet" high crown acorn nuts in stainless. www.totallystainless.com page 122 in their catalog.
i just spent the past 5 days reading this thread and admiring all of you ingenuity and skill. This thread is amazing and has given me multiple ideas. Your attention to detail and functionality is inspirational.
thanks for putting together such a great thread, and garage.
thanks for putting together such a great thread, and garage.
OP
Thanks, everyone.
This thread came alive while I was off at the Builders' convention in Orlando. I'm back with my 'Handyman Trophy.' Now I need to find a place to put it.
I found a three-spoke handle at Enco. Now I have to increase its bore from 1" to 1-1/4" -- but then, that's one of the things this drill press will be good for.
But I cleaned it off and put on some paint. It's taller and heftier than the 9450 on my other bench. It has a space for pipe jaws, but I'm not sure I'd ever use them. And it's fairly new. The 9450 was a 1973 build. This one was 1985.
I'm going to keep it -- and have it on the bench that faces out at the opening of the garage.
For comparison, here's the 9450 (which I think is a nicer piece of industrial design, for what it's worth):
I agree with GirlInAgarage's summary:
Those are actually not even bolts. They're 2" x 5/8" lag screws. I didn't want to have exposed nuts on the underside of the overhang, and I knew this wasn't going to be the vise for the really hard-twisting jobs. I drilled fairly big pilot holes -- and I thought they were straight -- but that one does look off kilter.
But I've got a higher threshold for sloppy work than some of you. For me, the joy in it always comes from the 'twenty feet' view.
McMaster-Carr is even more of an affliction when you can drive right over and pick your order up.
I have to admit, I noticed that all the head hexagons were aligned. That's fantastic. And a nice-looking vise.
Motorcycle supply places have them.
https://www.denniskirk.com/1-4-in-socket-head-cap-screw-covers.271017.prd
And of course, McMaster-Carr has them buried somewhere in its catalog. These are probably too small:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#screw-covers/=g7xq73
This thread came alive while I was off at the Builders' convention in Orlando. I'm back with my 'Handyman Trophy.' Now I need to find a place to put it.
I found a three-spoke handle at Enco. Now I have to increase its bore from 1" to 1-1/4" -- but then, that's one of the things this drill press will be good for.
At $76, I couldn't say no to it -- even though it was covered in a lot of years of caked grease and oil.
But I cleaned it off and put on some paint. It's taller and heftier than the 9450 on my other bench. It has a space for pipe jaws, but I'm not sure I'd ever use them. And it's fairly new. The 9450 was a 1973 build. This one was 1985.
I'm going to keep it -- and have it on the bench that faces out at the opening of the garage.
For comparison, here's the 9450 (which I think is a nicer piece of industrial design, for what it's worth):
Thank you!
It's Rustoleum's "Anodized Bronze." A strange name, and kind of an odd color -- it photographs very differently in different lights.
In less demanding applications, I really like to use polished brass bolts/nuts/caps
I agree with GirlInAgarage's summary:
This is a hopeless bunch. My kinda people.
Those are actually not even bolts. They're 2" x 5/8" lag screws. I didn't want to have exposed nuts on the underside of the overhang, and I knew this wasn't going to be the vise for the really hard-twisting jobs. I drilled fairly big pilot holes -- and I thought they were straight -- but that one does look off kilter.
But I've got a higher threshold for sloppy work than some of you. For me, the joy in it always comes from the 'twenty feet' view.
McMaster-Carr is even more of an affliction when you can drive right over and pick your order up.
Jack, you live by the sword you die by the sword I'm afraid...
...with the high standard you've set here and they'll be unmerciful, ask me how I know...
...but yup, I'm thinking cap screws all the way. Never-the-less always nice work seen here, but then that's to be expected of a U of I grad! Still enjoying your adventures.
Thomas
I have to admit, I noticed that all the head hexagons were aligned. That's fantastic. And a nice-looking vise.
I have looked online, inquired locally high and low for cap covers and ended up empty handed, zip, nadda. I just know someone makes 'em but darned if I know who or where. GirlnAgarage, pray tell where thoust may findeth sacred cap covers and thou willst be in thine debt forever and a day??!!
Intrigued Thomas
Sorry about the post hijack, but I knew you'd understand and forgive me.
Motorcycle supply places have them.
https://www.denniskirk.com/1-4-in-socket-head-cap-screw-covers.271017.prd
And of course, McMaster-Carr has them buried somewhere in its catalog. These are probably too small:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#screw-covers/=g7xq73
Dan in Pasadena
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Jack,
Looks like your trophy fits your garage's color scheme!
Looks like your trophy fits your garage's color scheme!
Omphaloskeptic
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Jack, not to be a smarta$$, but where are you going to stick your trophy? Congratulations on getting the award! Do you have any pictures from your trip to post?
Dan in Pasadena
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Ask him again and maybe he'll invite you over and SHOW YOU where he's going to "stick it"!
Omphaloskeptic
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Hey, it's an honest question. I thought it would reside on the shelf above his new workbench, but if he wants to close/open the hanging cabinet doors, the shelf won't work. If I was lucky enough to win such an award (no way in hell!), I would want to display it prominently.
GirlnAgarage
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That's kind of a personal question don't you think?
Yeah Jack, where are you going to stick it?
OP
Thanks guys. I'd rather no one stick anything where they don't want to.
Oddly, I've got no idea where the trophy could go. It's not like I've got a lot of open shelf space in the garage. For now, I've got it inside with the car racing trophies. But I'll admit it looks a little odd there.
In any case...
Today I did a quick fix on the handle for the drill press. I'd ordered a simple collar with a 1-1/4" bore. The set screw in it had the same threading as a set of threaded-rod handles I'd ordered from Enco.
So I just drilled two more holes:
Tapped them:
And used the handles from the old Sears drill press.
For reference, the old handle was a single bar held in place with a thumbscrew:
Next up is the switch.
Oddly, I've got no idea where the trophy could go. It's not like I've got a lot of open shelf space in the garage. For now, I've got it inside with the car racing trophies. But I'll admit it looks a little odd there.
In any case...
Today I did a quick fix on the handle for the drill press. I'd ordered a simple collar with a 1-1/4" bore. The set screw in it had the same threading as a set of threaded-rod handles I'd ordered from Enco.
So I just drilled two more holes:
Tapped them:
And used the handles from the old Sears drill press.
For reference, the old handle was a single bar held in place with a thumbscrew:
Next up is the switch.
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Jack...love that dill press and in fact I'm on the prowl for one to turn into a bench top just like it. My other 4 DP's need company.
You may be really partial to those red handles but I gotta say...each time I see them they remind me of the new plastic drill presses sold today. For humanities sake Jack...think it over man...
I say in jest but still...you know...I just don't think they're screaming 12-Gauge Garage..
You may be really partial to those red handles but I gotta say...each time I see them they remind me of the new plastic drill presses sold today. For humanities sake Jack...think it over man...
I say in jest but still...you know...I just don't think they're screaming 12-Gauge Garage..
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chevtrux53
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I love your garage, but i dont think you have enough c clamps
OP
I kind of agree, Kenwc. I'm thinking some black handles might be better. But the Craftsman ones are better than the little red balls that came with the threaded rods.
And thanks, chevtrux53. I've actually got a lot more out in the shed. I'm a sucker for a second-hand C-clamp.
The afternoon project was fun -- and futile.
I picked up an old switch:
Cleaned a few years of gunk off of it:
Then made a quick plate. You'll notice I didn't have the right tool for the job. My dream was a no-cost replacement:
But then I learned that it's the wrong kind of switch for this application.
So the old one went back on.
Still, the expense was pretty low.
And thanks, chevtrux53. I've actually got a lot more out in the shed. I'm a sucker for a second-hand C-clamp.
The afternoon project was fun -- and futile.
I picked up an old switch:
Cleaned a few years of gunk off of it:
Then made a quick plate. You'll notice I didn't have the right tool for the job. My dream was a no-cost replacement:
But then I learned that it's the wrong kind of switch for this application.
So the old one went back on.
Still, the expense was pretty low.
SpeedyGee
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Your a skilled man Jack ! You managed to use the wrong tool and still do a fantastic job of it 
Shame the effort was kinda wasted but I'm sure you had fun making it
Shame the effort was kinda wasted but I'm sure you had fun making it
What was wrong about the switch? Was because it is a momentary type switch (like for a contactor) or was it because the original switch is double pole switch? The original switch on mine is double pole so that it can be wired for 120 or 240 by changing the connections only in the motor and not have to change anything at the switch. If it because the switch is single pole and the drill press is wired for 120 volts, the wiring can be changed at the motor connections to make it work.
OP
I posted a question about it in the electrical section. It looks at though I can make it work with a relay. So it might be back.
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OP
Cleaned up and finished some details today.
The column for the drill press is a little shinier. Still waiting on better handles and still considering the different switch:
New vise is on the front bench:
It's a little shinier, thanks to the 3M wheel Red Leader recommended:
Here's the old new vise. I guess it needs some shining:
Here's the new bench, pretty much finished:
And yes, that's the new (red) 6" grinder, which I repainted in the same shade of... red. It makes sense, I guess, since it's got the Red Leader 3M wheel on it:
New arrangement:
The column for the drill press is a little shinier. Still waiting on better handles and still considering the different switch:
New vise is on the front bench:
It's a little shinier, thanks to the 3M wheel Red Leader recommended:
Here's the old new vise. I guess it needs some shining:
Here's the new bench, pretty much finished:
And yes, that's the new (red) 6" grinder, which I repainted in the same shade of... red. It makes sense, I guess, since it's got the Red Leader 3M wheel on it:
New arrangement:
87handmedown
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At this point I think it's just sickening how amazing and perfect your garage is.
Rag Roc
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Great work Jack! I really enjoy and appreciate your attention to detail.
BTW I had hoped to make it over to the home builder show and attempt to meet you, but got ******* at a car show at Westgate Lakes Resort across I-4 from the convention center. Congrats on the award!
BTW I had hoped to make it over to the home builder show and attempt to meet you, but got ******* at a car show at Westgate Lakes Resort across I-4 from the convention center. Congrats on the award!
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ChristopherLutz
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How many years Jack - from when you started your refurb?
OP
Thanks, guys.
ChristopherLutz, there were basically two versions of the garage (well, three if you count the four years where it was filled with five-foot-tall stacks of boxes, parts, tools and other ****). I cleaned it up and painted in during the 2007-8 Writers' Guild strike. Then in early 2010 I started the slow and steady march to the new version.
Here was what phase one looked like:
And here it is last night:
ChristopherLutz, there were basically two versions of the garage (well, three if you count the four years where it was filled with five-foot-tall stacks of boxes, parts, tools and other ****). I cleaned it up and painted in during the 2007-8 Writers' Guild strike. Then in early 2010 I started the slow and steady march to the new version.
Here was what phase one looked like:
And here it is last night:
colo crawler
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I have looked through the pics and I never saw where you keep your compressor. Did I miss it?
-Tom
-Tom
OP
It's about 15' away from the garage, in the house's crawlspace. I think I have about a 50' run connecting it to the back side of the (detached) garage. It's in an insulated box with two fans circulating cooling air.
Dan in Pasadena
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Jack,
One of these days you've gotta show me that compressor set up. Are the fans hooked up for you to turn on manually or do they kick on when the compressor kicks on, or temp controlled somehow?
One of these days you've gotta show me that compressor set up. Are the fans hooked up for you to turn on manually or do they kick on when the compressor kicks on, or temp controlled somehow?
OP
I hate to say it, but it's pretty much done.
That said, I'd hardly call it finished. There will always be lots of little things to improve. But I currently don't have any big plans for it -- other than continuing to use it.
That said, I'd hardly call it finished. There will always be lots of little things to improve. But I currently don't have any big plans for it -- other than continuing to use it.