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Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT 1950s Craftsman Garage retro remodel

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Have enjoyed your whole thread, most of all your great attitude. Please be sure you have a good seal on your mask. Breathing concrete dust can lead to serious health problems. Hepa filter on the vacuum for sure. Need to keep the dust down for your family most of all. Keep up the good work
 
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Thanks everyone! I am on track to start epoxy tomorrow. Got the chips mixed last night.

Today I mostly did the wood filler strips...they are turning out nice. Son goes to bed at 7:30. After that I will finish cutting the small ends to two of them, then sand flush with the floor. After all that is said and done, I'll have a major clean up which I'll try to knock some out of tonight.


I still need to make the spike shoes!!!! :D
 
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Have enjoyed your whole thread, most of all your great attitude. Please be sure you have a good seal on your mask. Breathing concrete dust can lead to serious health problems. Hepa filter on the vacuum for sure. Need to keep the dust down for your family most of all. Keep up the good work

Thanks for your thoughts!! A few times I noticed I had less than a perfect seal, but just barely and never any irritation. I've always used the mask when doing anything with concrete. It has been a real life saver. I've also been very aware of dust 'tracking' when it comes to the family.
 
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Update - got the strips all cut and fitted and nearly 3/4 of the way done with grinding/sanding strips level to floor. Once I am done with that step, I will pull them, clean the garage and prep for the epoxy. I will put a finish on the strips and lay them in once the epoxy sets.


Wahoo!
 

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Red Leader; go get a enclosed trailer or POD today and load it up for storage of all the small stuff. Knock out the floor in two steps. Once that stuff starts flowing you will not want to stop. Never applied epoxy flooring , but lots of paint. Good luck, I have been following for over a year, love the theme , and how you present it.
 
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Alright guys! I am slated to start the epoxy tonight!

Got the wood inserts profiled and level to the floor - pulled them and set them aside. Swept the floor, then vacuumed the floor. Going to wipe down the slab with denatured alcohol to get the last little bit of dust out and start with a fresh clean slate. Made the spike shoes. Got the supplies warmed up at room temperature, and have a heater going in the garage (it is going to get a little cold tonight. But clear skies!

I feel a little selfish making this thing so long and drawn out. Other guys in other threads dedicate this entire project to 1 post..."Hey guys, got the floor done today...looks good" and DONE. I admire those guys...maybe you could even say I'm a little jealous.

At the 1950s Craftsman Garage we like doing things the hard way. The results usually turn out OK, so there isn't a ton of remorse, but sometimes I feel like the garage could really use one of these:

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That being said, those things seem to be pretty rare 'round these parts :lol_hitti

An update will follow later tonight along with some pictures! If I've been suffering through this for this long, I'm going to take a few of you with me:lol: :D:beer:
 
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Red Leader; go get a enclosed trailer or POD today and load it up for storage of all the small stuff. Knock out the floor in two steps. Once that stuff starts flowing you will not want to stop. Never applied epoxy flooring , but lots of paint. Good luck, I have been following for over a year, love the theme , and how you present it.

Wish I could do that, but as it stands now, I'm out of time. But I do have a plan. It does mean me rolling some things around, but I'm okay with that. Besides, with just me doing it, I have to do it in 4 parts anyway because I can't work more than 1/4 of the pad at a time within the curing time of the epoxy. But I like your ideas! If time and $$ permitted, I'd do it.
 
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Okay, first pad base coat down! Wow, okay! At first, I freaked because I took a little longer getting it down ( a little learning curve here) and when I started working with it, I didn't realize it was going to be the consistency of molasses! I thought I'd be neatly able to paint right up to the edge to cut the corners...nope! I had to jam the paintbrush in there and scrub with it as fast as I could! That was new. :lol_hitti

However, it came out okay and the chips really help hide the 'trouble' spots haha. I have that weird black fiber pad lining that goes between the pad and the concrete footer...I was bumping up against some of that stuff and it was getting caught on the roll, but again, the chips came to the rescue.

Couple of things that helped - tipping the bucket upside down while you squeegee the rest...that way it is working while you are working too. Also, it would behoove someone to have a big long-handled squeegee and then have the short one (the short one is included in the kit). The long one would be used to draw out the epoxy and the short one would be used to squeegee out the bucket. I'm going to check to see how much squeegees are. Anyone know where to find them? I'm sure the big box store has them, but are there any 'squeegee' stores? :dunno: :)

Someone needs to invent a round squeegee to use on the sides of buckets...for paint, epoxy, etc. Instant millionaire:lol:

Goal for tomorrow - get clear coat on 1st pad, epoxy second pad. If the crack repair kit comes tomorrow, I'll try to work on that, too.

I did take pictures, but can't find the card reader. I'll try and get some uploaded tomorrow...but posting photos might be on the back-burner until this is done.
I'm excited to do the second one now after learning from my mistakes. I am VERY fortunate to be doing this in colder weather and thereby being blessed with slightly longer set up times:D

A HUGE thanks to Epoxy-Coat and Rugerlady for this fabulous contest prize - it will really make the garage shine!

Stay tuned!

We'll see how things go!
 

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Gongrats, Dave. :thumbup: Glad to hear the update. Can't wait to see the finished shots.

For the bucket squeegee, try a short handled window squeegee.. There may be a way to create a 90 degree handle to use it sideways to reach in the bucket. (Found here at HD)
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Don't know if you have them up there, but my first thought would be Smart & Final for a large squeegee. They should have some decent floor squeegees. If not, do you know any local fire fighters, ask where they get theirs. You must have some sort of professional cleaning supply in the area. Good Luck.
 
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Thanks for the thoughts, guys. Got 1st pad done w/ clear coat. Made some mistakes here and there, but overall okay. Some bubbles forming...but nothing I can do about that. I did as much as I could (used no water, started when the temperature was dropping, etc) but that's okay, it will provide a little more traction:) :thumbup:

Also got base coat done on second pad. Right now I am on schedule, and exhausted:lol:

Before I can do the third pad, I need the epoxy crack repair kit to come in the mail. I was expecting it today but it might be here tomorrow.

Let's keep our fingers crossed:fingersx::fingersx::fingersx:

Okay time for bed
 

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Congrats on getting to Homestretch of applying epoxy floor to your garage!

Been reading all posts over past few days and Wow, you've got great vintage machines in your shop. Thanks for helping others "Get The Bug" to learn to love them as well and save from the scrap heap. I'm a new convert!

Found some scores: (1) Brooklyn, NY there is Craftsman gold drill press only $51 so far on Ebay at:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CRAFTSMAN-D...563?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item232346eec3
(2) Easton, PA there is Craftsman 40's table saw 103.0213 only $20 so far on Ebay at:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CRAFTSMAN-V...583?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c68a525b7
(3) Newtown, NY there is Atlas variable speed floor drill press w/ footpedal only $125 at: http://newyork.craigslist.org/fct/tls/3316916986.html

Good luck with rest of epoxy floor, along with getting sleep, new son, etc! Show us the pictures, please.
 
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Alright guys, I have pictures!


So, here is what I was doing with the concrete before the epoxy - cutting and breaking out U-channels. Not very fun, haha.


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Yes, that really wasn't fun:lol:


So then it was time to cut the wood filler strips! I used a 2x4x10 piece of cedar. They had some really beautiful pieces of wood (cedar, overall, is very beautiful wood). The piece I selected was representative of some of the nicer pieces I saw and hopefully will finish well.


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The wood will make a big difference:
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After this, my garage started smelling like a nice cigar box:lol:


So I held the strips in place with concrete blocks and attempted to use my belt sander. 80 grit, soft wood. No problem, right? TOOK FOREVER:lol_hitti


This was much faster:D :

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I did finish the wood off with the belt sander to smooth things up a bit:

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Here is the test fit (note: the '4 corners' area will fit even more tightly, they were fitted loosely in this picture):

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Next up? Yep, more prep work. Now that there was, again, a bunch of dust in the garage from cutting the concrete control joints and a bunch of sawdust from the filler strips, it meant more dusting, more sweeping, more vacuuming, etc.

Actually I was really impressed how much dust the vacuum was able to pick up after sweeping several times:

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Oh yea, fun stuff.
 
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Okay, so now it was time to get to work!

Here is the slab all cleaned off and ready to rock:

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(the heater was on overnight because it dipped into the 30s)


And here is right after the first coat was laid down!


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Many moons ago, I gave readers the chance to vote on several options for the flake combo. This was the one that won out and it was the one that I used:

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(sorry these images are terrible...white balance way off:shocking:)

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I also did the second pad last night (was too tired to take pictures) and laid down the clear on that this evening. Here is what that is looking like:

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(this color is more representative of the actual color)


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I made tons of mistakes. I accidentally trapped some of that black lining felt stuff (along the edge of the pad/footer) in the roller and rolled it across the floor. I scraped the clear coat with my spike shoes. My vacuum fell over and part of the (nasty, dirty, and dusty) hose fell on the clear coat. I used a cheap roller on the 2nd pad's base coat and lint got in the epoxy (even though I cleaned it off with tape first, will NOT cheap out on rollers again!). I had bubbles coming through the first clear coat (did not use water to clean the pads off, did it in decending temps, so who knows).

However, all in all, I think it looks good and the chips really go a long, long way to hiding the imperfections. I am getting better and learning more with each application that I do. It has been fun, exhausting, stressful, rewarding, and everything in-between. Was it worth it? Absolutely! Would I do it again? Nope, at least not how I did it. I can only take so much punishment:D


So this is where I am currently at. Before I start on the next pad (which I was going to start on tonight) I would have needed my epoxy repair kit to come in the mail and do the crack repairs, but I have not seen the kit yesterday or today, so it looks like my schedule just took a big nose dive :lol:

I'm okay with that, though. It will give the 1st section an extra chance to dry before I start wheeling some really heavy things on it. As soon as I get the stuff in the mail, I will make the repair, then start on the 3rd pad. It looks like I will only get 3 pads max out of this week, since there is a 30% chance of rain on Friday and I don't want to chance the moisture issues. However, with everything being set up and ready to go, I can start on the 3rd and 4th pads as soon as everything else is agreeable.

So I leave you with one last picture showing the full colors of the garage:

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That's all for now! Thanks for following along with the insanity over here!
 
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Really setting off the place getting the floor finished. Today I was outside in the driveway and looked at my expansion joints, thought of you and all the work you did scraping yours up.

Beautiful.
 
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Really setting off the place getting the floor finished. Today I was outside in the driveway and looked at my expansion joints, thought of you and all the work you did scraping yours up.

Beautiful.

Thanks Girl. I think its funny that I am associated with scraping + work...because it is so, so true:D


Seems like I'm having to scrape and scrub on anything and everything out there lol.
 

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That is going to look great.

On the dust/lint/felt stuff -- remember that it's a garage, and if it looks great at 10 feet, you got it right. (If it ended up looking good right up close, you screwed up -- because then it would be too pretty and it wouldn't really a working garage anymore. :) )
 
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Wow, that is looking great, and I am encouraged that even an ape like me might be able to achieve good results if you can do all the things you did to it (vacuum hose, linty rollers etc.) and still have it look like that.

Thanks for the inspiration!
 
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That is going to look great.

On the dust/lint/felt stuff -- remember that it's a garage, and if it looks great at 10 feet, you got it right. (If it ended up looking good right up close, you screwed up -- because then it would be too pretty and it wouldn't really a working garage anymore. :) )

Hmmm...maybe I should throw a little dirt down on the next pads when I do them:D

Thanks for your kind words!!!
 
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Wow, that is looking great, and I am encouraged that even an ape like me might be able to achieve good results if you can do all the things you did to it (vacuum hose, linty rollers etc.) and still have it look like that.

Thanks for the inspiration!

Bull,

Trust me...if I can do it, anyone or anything can haha.

By the way, if memory serves me correctly, I owe you some vintage Pontiac service cards.

I'm going to the post office tomorrow...maybe I'll finally get those things mailed:beer:
 

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It looks fantastic from my house!! Man, that really brightens the place up. I like the way you mitered the intersection with the wood too. The devil is in the details!

I hate my floor now. Thanks.
 

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hey red leader, i am another 20something guy trying to set up my garage but i Showed your build and a few other inspirational builds to my dad who has had his 30'x60' mostly woodworking shop for a decade now and never really finished the interior and by seeing some amazing shops here on jg i think we are going to get some work accomplished. Anyway I just wanted to thank you for the inspiration.
 

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p.s. i have been scouring c.l. and local yard sales lately for the first time in my life just because i am interested in old American power tools only because of this thread. thanks a lot.
 

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Congratulations, Dave. That looks Awesome! :thumbup:

It is really amazing what can be accomplished with a great vision, a lot of hard work, the right tools, an understanding significant other, a heater and not to forget the stapler, pirate and armadillo!

Take a breather. The finish line is in sight. :beer:
 

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Dave, the floor looks great! I was surprised to see the tool box on the fresh floor. I thought you had to keep stuff off for 48 hours (maybe it was the section you did first).

I think the cedar strips between the slabs will look awesome. Are you going to stain the cedar, or oil it prior to installation?
 

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Wow, looks great, floor's light tan color compliments everything else done in the garage.

I'd sure ask a neighbor if they could help you out for a couple days to store rest of stuff from the other half of garage. That way you would be getting best chance at unblemished floor. Could be as cheap as small woodworking project they have been putting off!

Looks great, congrats on winning the "free" floor .... lots of elbow grease!:thumbup:

P.S. Idea on your cement stemwall around garage - - -How about painting that black (to help hide the natural gas pipe), and also paint the NG pipe "body color" of the room (ie teal) where it goes up wall to help hide that NG pipe?

P.S.S. For the small access door, how about this - - all black with stainless steel piece on bottom for kickplate, then your 1950s Craftsman Garage logo at eye level super-sized to span the width of door?
 
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Great job Red. The wood detail is going to look insane.

I agree with Jack, it's a garage in the end. Don't worry about the little mistakes, from the pics, it looks amazing.

Stain that Cedar Red. Then clear it before you stick it in the concrete. It will buy you more rotting away time.
 

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See RL- that wasn't too hard, was it? (Don't answer that - I know what you went through to get this far! :willy_nil)

It looks amazing! And I think the wood dividers down there are going to be the perfect finishing touch to this wonderful workspace :thumbup:

Just think, two more squares and its done! Hang in there buddy - you can do it.
 

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Hey guys (and ladies, of course!),

I will do a proper introduction elsewhere, but I was planning not to post until I finished your entire thread. I am currently on page 118 and working to catch up fast! This Atlas/Craftsman Commercial metal lathe popped up on CL here today in Central Texas. Pretty pricey from where I stand, but I am an absolute newb here! Re-paint looked a little sloppy, but again, I am no professional, either. I will post the couple of things I have acquired recently and some more info when I finish the thread. Here's the link:

http://waco.craigslist.org/bar/3323296674.html

Red Leader - yours is the 3rd big thread/build I have read: 1st - Jack Olsen, 2nd - tinbender, and now yours. :bowdown:

Absolutely love the work you've done!

Returning the hijack!

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I'll bet it feels great to know that you are actually going to be done with this big project soon. I know that my stack of 'started but not completed' projects is huge...which is why I am forcing myself to stick to completing the dental light brackets for my studio next, instead of starting something new.

Looks great! You are almost there. I love seeing how you have figured out ways to overcome a very tight budget in the garage--and found a way to be stylish at the same time.

M_P
 

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Wow - the floor is looking great! You are definitely in the home stretch!!! I finally got through all 130 pages and almost feel like I know just about everyone here!

Great bunch of folks here! I found GJ looking for garage improvement ideas, and your thread looking for old CM stuff. You are truly an inspiration!!!!
 
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Hey guys (and ladies, of course!),

I will do a proper introduction elsewhere, but I was planning not to post until I finished your entire thread. I am currently on page 118 and working to catch up fast! This Atlas/Craftsman Commercial metal lathe popped up on CL here today in Central Texas. Pretty pricey from where I stand, but I am an absolute newb here! Re-paint looked a little sloppy, but again, I am no professional, either. I will post the couple of things I have acquired recently and some more info when I finish the thread. Here's the link:

http://waco.craigslist.org/bar/3323296674.html

Red Leader - yours is the 3rd big thread/build I have read: 1st - Jack Olsen, 2nd - tinbender, and now yours. :bowdown:

Absolutely love the work you've done!

Returning the hijack!

redintex

Welcome aboard the obsession! And feel free to post anytime with any thoughts. The more the merrier:beer:

Also, thank you for your kind words as well. There are some amazing builds on here, a lot of them owned by folks just above your post.
 
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I'll bet it feels great to know that you are actually going to be done with this big project soon. I know that my stack of 'started but not completed' projects is huge...which is why I am forcing myself to stick to completing the dental light brackets for my studio next, instead of starting something new.

Looks great! You are almost there. I love seeing how you have figured out ways to overcome a very tight budget in the garage--and found a way to be stylish at the same time.

M_P

The stylish:budget ratio is a tough one to balance, but it has provided a fun challenge and helped to give me ideas when maybe I couldn't afford the 'standard' so to speak.

I'd love to get caught up with your thread soon...I know you've got some great things going on in your space that I'd love to see.
 
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See RL- that wasn't too hard, was it? (Don't answer that - I know what you went through to get this far! :willy_nil)

It looks amazing! And I think the wood dividers down there are going to be the perfect finishing touch to this wonderful workspace :thumbup:

Just think, two more squares and its done! Hang in there buddy - you can do it.

Thanks shopnut...I'm starting to think I should have chosen a username not unlike yours. Probably would have been a bit more appropriate:lol_hitti
 
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Great job Red. The wood detail is going to look insane.

I agree with Jack, it's a garage in the end. Don't worry about the little mistakes, from the pics, it looks amazing.

Stain that Cedar Red. Then clear it before you stick it in the concrete. It will buy you more rotting away time.

I'm definitely going to finish the wood...some of it might already be red, I'm not sure. I thinking it will look really great with a finish on it. We'll know soon!
 
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