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Rusty Musket

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Re: anybody seen one of these before?

They are nice vises made in Poland by FPU ("Fabryka Przyrzadow Uchwytow"). Very well built with a super study swivel base.

A few links for more information.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=889904&highlight=hi-test+vise#post889904

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/antique-machinery-history/unique-vise-find-201352/

Thanks Scrounge & Provincial! That was super helpful and timely. He is asking $140 but may be interested in trades.
 
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Heres some vices I had stashed in my shop. Forgot about a couple.
The tall green one is a Versa- Vice, post mount can be on the bottom or side.
The other green one is a Superior. The black one, foreground is a C Parker No. 21, the red one is a Sears made in tiwan.
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Drill press- so heavyI dont need to bolt down.
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Also have two Columbian's.
A No. 504-1/2
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And one that will hold the whole truck, a No. 508
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Can anyone identify this old Prentiss Vise? I believe it says 822 on the side but it could be 622. I can't find any info about it searching online.

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Next Vise is my Big workhorse, anything too greasy or too big for my VPA goes in this, it has no name or anything on it, it had a logo once on the right side but its almost gone, it is very slobby and the moving jaw doesnt go out by itself. i still enjoy beating it and even with a cheaterbar of 1½meter and my 105kg's it still sits there laughing at me :bowdown:. Jaws are 13.5cm wide (about 5.3") and it opens up to 18cm (7"). Im thinking about giving it a full resto but when there's no brand on it and the jaws are non-replaceable its not really worth it right?

Here you see whats left of the logo
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This vise might be the jewel of your shop. It's an older model of the Peddinghaus 'Matador' sold by Ridgid.

I read most of this thread, and I own the modern version of this vise. It joins my 4" Columbian, two 4.5" Craftsmans, a broken Morgan 4.5", and several machine/drill vises to 6". This is my first post (Hello all -- Great thread).

The 'Matador' has forged steel jaw assemblies, and adjustable slide clearances (the two adjusters on the side of your vise?), fast-traveling main screw with it's double-helix threads, and trademark non-replaceable jaw faces. [It simply doesn't need replacable jaw faces; It can be reliably repaired with welding if necessary.]

If your screw won't pull the dynamic jaw back, then the pin/clip must be missing or broken -- A simple repair.

I would choose this unbreakable vise over most of the iron vises on this thread. When iron yields -- It breaks. And it can't be fixed easily, or reliably.

Here's a photo from page 256 showing the welded castings (er, 'forgings') more clearly. The modern version that I have is made of smaller elements, and more weld joints.

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Snagged another one today at my favorite junkyard. It's a Columbian, I guess a 4-inch jaw. VERY rusty, been sitting outside for a long time, but I don't see any damage on anything. Still has the swivel base. However, it's stuck shut. I'll have to get some kerosene and let it soak for a while and see where we're at. But for $35, I'm not going to complain too much.
 

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Snagged another one today at my favorite junkyard. It's a Columbian, I guess a 4-inch jaw. VERY rusty, been sitting outside for a long time, but I don't see any damage on anything. Still has the swivel base. However, it's stuck shut. I'll have to get some kerosene and let it soak for a while and see where we're at. But for $35, I'm not going to complain too much.

Is that the elusive Columbian swivel jaw I see? Those are rare, at least in my experience. For $35, that's a deal. I hope it turns out well and you can get it unstuck.
 

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Been in need of a vise for my work bench for a while and couldn't decide on what to get. Came across 2 vises on craigslist that I picked up for a $1 each. Couldn't pass up on that deal so now I plan on restoring both of them. They both operate normally and don't seem to have any obvious issues.

Simplex 41S
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Haven't been able to identify this one... anyone know?
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A Simplex for a dollar is a good price no matter how you look at it. You ****!

Here is my score for the day off CL. The guy happened to be a few miles from my house so i made arrangements to stop by and take a look. He said it was his grandfathers vise and had some more tools laying around. Most of them were Plomb so i took a shot of them on the vise.

Its a Parker No.40 with the earlier lettering on the castings and the turn of the century patent dates. Its got 4 1/2" jaws and can open to about 10 1/2". Its gonna need some work to make it nice but i like it
 

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Mark in Indiana

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Snagged another one today at my favorite junkyard. It's a Columbian, I guess a 4-inch jaw. VERY rusty, been sitting outside for a long time, but I don't see any damage on anything. Still has the swivel base. However, it's stuck shut. I'll have to get some kerosene and let it soak for a while and see where we're at. But for $35, I'm not going to complain too much.

Great find! I'm always glad to see iron treasure saved from the scrap yard.
 

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Been in need of a vise for my work bench for a while and couldn't decide on what to get. Came across 2 vises on craigslist that I picked up for a $1 each. Couldn't pass up on that deal so now I plan on restoring both of them. They both operate normally and don't seem to have any obvious issues.

Simplex 41S
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Haven't been able to identify this one... anyone know?
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A Simplex for a dollar is a good price no matter how you look at it. You ****!

Here is my score for the day off CL. The guy happened to be a few miles from my house so i made arrangements to stop by and take a look. He said it was his grandfathers vise and had some more tools laying around. Most of them were Plomb so i took a shot of them on the vise.

Its a Parker No.40 with the earlier lettering on the castings and the turn of the century patent dates. Its got 4 1/2" jaws and can open to about 10 1/2". Its gonna need some work to make it nice but i like it

Well don't the two of you just **** today? Great scores!
 

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Wasn't looking for another vise but couldn't pass up this one for $5. I did have to take it off the bench though! Prentiss No 3 in fairly good shape except I will have to do a pin-ectomy. I believe this will be a keeper after a Catalyze type restoration.


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looking to sell in western colorado
 

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A Parker 1073-1/2? No really!

Hi ho,

So this is my first post on this wonderful forum - not sure how I've missed this all these years...

Let's get to the vise news. It all started when I snapped the swivel base on an old un-named 3" vise a couple weeks back. That led to a trip to the storage locker, where I've had my old car shop gear and tools stashed for a few years. The garage at home isn't up yet, but I've got a garden shed where I work on my hand plane collection and needed to replace the little broken bench vise. I know I've got a Wilton and I think a Prentiss in storage (not sure which models, and after plowing through this 300+ page thread I certainly don't want to post incorrect information), but I also had this other goofy looking, rusted tight thing that I was getting curious about after going through your forums here. I fetched the monster goofy vise and tossed it in the electrolysis bath to try and free it up while I continued to study the forums here and figure out what it is.

After a few days in the tank, I rinsed it and found all the parts were now moving nicely. As seen in the photos below, it's a Parker which I'm pleased to learn is a mighty fine vise. The interesting thing is, it's not like a Parker I've seen in any of the posts here, nor anywhere else on the 'net. While workin' on the wire brushing, paint prep and polishing, I found the original number 973 cast in the side appears to had been ground off and replaced with a brass tag with the number 1073-1/2 punched in it. The swivel base unit has the number 973-1/2 cast into it as well, so I can only assume this is some kind of manufacturer altered 973-1/2 model. The jaws are 3-1/2" wide, and the thing weighs in at just over 47 lbs, so I'd guess it's an Parker "Eclipse" model that they changed for the original buyer.

So what's different? If you've already skipped below to the photos, it's clear that this thing has some manner of quick-release handle on it. Apparently if you need to hold the same size part all day long for production work, this would be the vise to have. The knob on the front is turned to allow you just enough room to place your work in the jaws, then the big handle turns about 270 deg. on a cam at the front to squeeze the jaws tight on whatever you're trying to hold. Turning the handle to the highest spot on the cam (to create the most tension) closes the jaws about another 3/8" from the full open handle position. Additionally, there's a big set screw on the back of the main vise screw that allows you to lock the jaw opening in place and prevent the front knob from spinning while turning the big cam handle. Quite the vise for repeated production work!

Here's what it looks like - you can just make out the 1073-1/2 tag in this first picture:

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Here's the other side:

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Here's the front cam thing with the handle in the open position:

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And here's the same view with the handle turned against the cam:

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Finally, here's that set screw thing on the back that keeps the jaw opening setting:

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I can pass along more infor about where I got this if anyone's interested.

Hopefully someone here has heard or seen something like this before, or preferably someone has an old Parker catalog that has more information about when this thing was made and what the purpose was.

Anyway, I'm glad I could contribute something to the thread. Enjoy!

-JeffK.
 

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Nice vise, KesterHouse! I love the fact that it is a variation on a basic Parker, but obviously a factory option. Nice job on the restoration, too!
 

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Stormking - for $5.00 keep running so you don't get caught with that nice Prentiss! (and you **** too)

Kester - after my last Alien **** Probe, I thought that I had seen everything.....but your Parker is too much for me to comprehend! Grats on the rarest Parker that I have ever seen. If you ever want to sell it, just go to Bigcaddy's shop and take whatever you want and send the Parker to me.
Craig
 

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Is that the elusive Columbian swivel jaw I see? Those are rare, at least in my experience. For $35, that's a deal. I hope it turns out well and you can get it unstuck.

No, it's not a swivel head, it looks like a hardy hole for mounting a hardy, which is obviously missing. What what I can see the static jaw is solid design. But it's still worth saving from the smelter and a future life reincarnated as a Chinese toaster.
 
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Jeff:

Re: Parker 973X vise.

Welcome to Garage Journal. This is an amazing forum packed with knowledge, experience, information, creativity... and a sizable helping of B.S.

Your Parker is an incredible vise! I have not seen anything like it in all the poking around I have done in the past two years. You have done a great job restoring it. I will be looking forward to your future posts.
 

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Here's a big one I just finished. I picked it up at an estate sale in a large load of things. It was a rusted mess when I got it but it cleaned up well and now it works like new. I don't think it was used much.

Columbian 505-M2 5" Jaws that open to 10.5" and weighs 65 pounds.

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KesterHouse

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Hey all, thanks for the kind words regarding the Parker 1073-1/2. I thought you guys might find it interesting.

@BigCaddy - If Catalyze falls over dead when he sees this, I call dibs on his stuff!

@Provincial - I'm with you, I have to think this is a factory modification.

@Catalyze - So let me get this right... I send this to you, I go to BigCaddy's place and take whatever I want, then I come to your place on my way home to get all your stuff (since you fell over dead and I called dibs), and recover my Parker at the same time. Hmm... sounds like a plan!

Seriously though, I must thank you for the inspiration to take the time with the restoration and for the results I was able to achieve. Before seeing the work you and others have done with their bench vises here, I would have just wire brushed it and slathered some grey Rust-oleum on it with a brush to call it done. You and the rest of the folks here are really doing a great service to future generations to keep these tools in service, and to share the information about their history with others.

Again, thanks to all that responded.

Oh, and I also blame you all for the vise I just bid on at flea-bay. See what you've started!?

-JeffK
 

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Not sure I'm in the right area to post this comment/question. Was recently gifted a 572 Rock Island (with a Birtman tag still attached). The original jaw pads are missing, but the user continued to use it with naked jaws. I need a source for replacement jaw pads whether original or some I can modify. Also, curious about what the number convention relates to? It weighs about 30-35 pounds, but I've seen others with numbers near 572 (such as 571 and 577) but the weight and size seems to vary significantly from the 572. This one is a swivel base. Once I get it refurbished, It'll be replacing a 4" Craftsman on my workbench even though the jaws are 3.5" on this one. Appreciate any insights.
 

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No, it's not a swivel head, it looks like a hardy hole for mounting a hardy, which is obviously missing. What what I can see the static jaw is solid design. But it's still worth saving from the smelter and a future life reincarnated as a Chinese toaster.

What is the # on the vise? I have a 406 that is a swivel jaw, swivel base with 6" jaw. Lines are very similar to yours, which is the only reason I ask. Must be the rust, but it really almost looks to have that overlap in the back from a swivel jaw. Really curious on the number from the tag. :eyecrazy:
 

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Picked this guy up off craigslist on saturday

7" jaws swivel base, in very nice shape except for the handle which i think is not original and its bent anyway.
 

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Hey all, thanks for the kind words regarding the Parker 1073-1/2. I thought you guys might find it interesting.

@BigCaddy - If Catalyze falls over dead when he sees this, I call dibs on his stuff!

@Provincial - I'm with you, I have to think this is a factory modification.

@Catalyze - So let me get this right... I send this to you, I go to BigCaddy's place and take whatever I want, then I come to your place on my way home to get all your stuff (since you fell over dead and I called dibs), and recover my Parker at the same time. Hmm... sounds like a plan!

Seriously though, I must thank you for the inspiration to take the time with the restoration and for the results I was able to achieve. Before seeing the work you and others have done with their bench vises here, I would have just wire brushed it and slathered some grey Rust-oleum on it with a brush to call it done. You and the rest of the folks here are really doing a great service to future generations to keep these tools in service, and to share the information about their history with others.

Again, thanks to all that responded.

Oh, and I also blame you all for the vise I just bid on at flea-bay. See what you've started!?

-JeffK

Don't let Catalyze fill your head with a bunch of garbage, Jeff. You come snooping around here you will quickly realize how hard it is to kidnap my toys with both your hands clamped in a vise.:beer:

Just wait until summer when it gets real hot in New Mexico and Catalyze's brain starts to fry, then you can say you are an alien and walk off with some of his stuff.
 

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Awesome Thread. I'll play. They are all fairly new to me and are in line for resto.

Picked up the Desmond Stephan No. 350, 3.5", for $3 last week.
Wilton 6". Year Unk. $50
Atwood 4". $60
Tiny Vise, Unk. $1
Allied 6". looks rough but I don't think it was ever used. $free
Craftsman 5". Been rode hard and put away wet. Came with truck bed years back.

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Here's a big one I just finished. I picked it up at an estate sale in a large load of things. It was a rusted mess when I got it but it cleaned up well and now it works like new. I don't think it was used much.

Columbian 505-M2 5" Jaws that open to 10.5" and weighs 65 pounds.

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If I had a shop and needed a bigger size vise. Your vise would be perfect. Columbians have been around for over 100 years. Columbians still don't get the respect they deserve. That's a beauty!
 

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Picked this guy up off craigslist on saturday

7" jaws swivel base, in very nice shape except for the handle which i think is not original and its bent anyway.

That Parker is a relic! I think Parker discontinued that style swivel base about 100 years ago. Its in very nice condition for its age.
 

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That Parker is a relic! I think Parker discontinued that style swivel base about 100 years ago. Its in very nice condition for its age.

just got a chance to weigh it, according to my scale not including the swivel plate it weighs about 180lbs
 

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Just finished restoring and fitting my vice - German made Leinen LE/125. Here it is with its identical brother at the new home, just after collection:

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It was in fairly good condition, bar some surface rust and peeling, non-original paint. Here it is on the left:

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I decided to have it powder coated and so the work began. Disassembling the vice was dead easy - there were no seized parts and everything came apart as it should. The vice has an interesting way of fitment to the bench: there is one through hole at the back of the vice and two vertical holes at the front. Since the top of my bench is filled with concrete, drilling was not an option - I simply didn't want to butcher the bench. In fact, if I could somehow reuse the original vice holes the bench came with, that would be perfect. After a few brainstorming sessions with a fellow member CanUK, a much more elegant solution has emerged:

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I bought a 1/2" angle steel off ebay, aligned it with the centre hole in the bench, measure and marked all 5 now holes, bored them one by one remeasuring each time and cut off the excess. The vice would sit on top so the countersunk bolts are crucial:

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In the meantime, my vice came from the paint shop and I finished polishing the handle, sleeve and screw:

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As the choice of colours was somewhat limited without paying extra (it's an alloy wheels refurb shop), I've settled on anthracite as the new colour for the vice:

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While at it, I changed all the screws for the new ones, regreased the moving parts, refitted the vice and this is how it looks now:

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The work bench weighs some mighty 560lbs and is impossible to tip over:

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I will get round to painting the bracket when I do some other projects needing paint.

Thanks for looking! :)

Beautiful vises! How old are they? Who is the original manufacture?
 

Mark in Indiana

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Hello vise friends,

I just bought a Chief L4 vise from a scrap dealer for $3.00. I'm sure this buy won't get me nominated for a "U ****" award but I bought in good faith for future vises that the dealer may have. It's all in good shape except for the missing jaw face (easy fix) and the missing swivel base.

Does anyone know how old this one is? Who is the original manufacture?

I plan to make new jaw faces, clean it, paint it and set it up as a stationary vise by drilling 2 holes in the flange opposite of the hole for the swivel lock bolt.
Although it's no Chas. Parker, I kinda dig the art deco look.
 

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87Pomona

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Reed 103-G I picked up off Craigslist today

I can't find any info on this vise. Anyone care to help out?


Jaws are like new, very well maintained Reed.

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